A RADwood Era V-6 Alfa and an Heirloom HiPo Mustang Drop Top | The Appraiser - Ep. 6

[@Mike-rk8px]

I’ve owned 14 Alfa’s in the past 35 years. They’re such gorgeous cars, even their 4 door family sedans. The sound of the engines, the driving experience, it was all mind blowing. The quality depended on the model and year, but the biggest enemy of any Italian car was RUST. I never drove mine in winter, or on rainy days. As long as you don’t mind the dedication of ownership, they’re incredible cars.

[@jergervasi3331]

Colin, I love this show. Great facts, brilliantly presented, and the way you interact with the owners is respectful and friendly. A pleasure to watch, every time.

[@colincomer4566]

Thank you Jer!

[@elefantinoverde5832]

@@colincomer4566 i subscripe that opinion, it´s a real pleasure to watch that show, great job

[@chesspiece81]

The wheels on that Mustang are perfect. Those are one of the few wheels that look so much better without the center caps.

[@OllamhDrab]

Well, I dunno about *better,* (I actually like the kind of cone-shaped chrome centers a lot) but they still look goo without em. :) I guess collectors want to see original stuff but I'd want to put some period-correct (Or nearly-so, or at leas period to *me* like we'd have em in the 80s) mags or something on there anyway.

[@chesspiece81]

@@OllamhDrab The flat center caps some of the Torque Thrust come with look really good too.

[@calvincooley1074]

I though about doing this look on my 93 Fox Reef Blue Metallic coupe. Maybe in 16 in. And use the longer lug nuts that stick out, and put small ARP screws (if available) in the center cap screw holes. Kind of a modern Trans Am ish look.

[@NovaResource]

Beautiful Alfa. I was a senior in HS in 1986 and I vividly remember seeing these cars. Rare, but not overly rare back then. Today … hens teeth. And good luck finding an unrestored/unmodified one that nice.

[@23Piccolina]

The GTV6 Alfa may be the finest sport coupe (of its time) ever. The design is incredibly elegant and unique. I always wished I had owned one, when they were new.

[@ijunglistwilliams8659]

I can never watch enough of these videos.

[@pi.actual]

Perhaps I'm unique in that I have owned both of these cars. I had a Mustang when I was a kid in high school in 1970 and a GTV6 in 1990. Ironically today I still own a Ford F350 and an Alfa 164S. That V6 is something special.

[@ronlynch7744]

The Alfa is one well cared for Sports Car. The Mustang shows years of use very well, a Beauty. 😎👍🇨🇦

[@Microfishingstory]

Such a simple show, yet one of the most captivating

[@gsmith207]

That was awesome! Great stories! And Sanford Silverbird! Best name ever! Wicked fun to say!

[@moparedtn]

Another very good episode of a fledgling series. The cars are interesting enough (even though I well remember those Alfa's back in the day *cough* ) but it's the owners and more importantly, the cars' *stories* that I find compelling - and would like the show to delve a little deeper into in the future. Thanks again Colin! - Ed on the Ridge

[@charlesshamseldin9555]

GTV6s are still undervalued in today's market. At some point that will change and they will be out of reach except for collectors and that's a shame because they are amazing to drive. Busso ftw

[@brrebrresen1367]

yeah, if someone over here in Europe had been told that they could get 40k USD for their GTV6 or even 50k they would told you to get off the mushrooms. 50-55k is not GTV6 prices, that is borderline Montreal prices. though 6's and specially the flathood "2.0"s have had an extreme increase in prices on the last 12 years. an nice rust-free but not spot-free "AR116"-type GTV2.0 like mine today would set you back at least 100k here so 10k USD since ratio now is 10:1 and a fully restored GTV6 would be twice that, and a 20k GTV6 would be a very hard sale and mostly take a very long time. my 84 GTV2.0 i bought in 2003 for 25k NOK and prices was flat since late 90's to 2010 (that would been around 4100 USD at that time with a ratio of 6:1)

[@jwrarmstrong]

I owned an Alfa GTV 6 just like that back in the 90's. I sold it because I needed more room in the driveway and I'm an idiot. The real genius of this car was that it wasn't particularly fast but through aroma, sound and motion it convinced you that it was. I remember a hot August day in Toronto when I was going through an uphill left then right curve on Bayview Avenue howling along, downshifting and feeling like Senna when a taxi passed me in the outside lane!

[@stuffhappens5681]

The 2.5 V6 is a tiny 152 cubic inch normally aspirated engine producing slightly more than 1hp per cubic inch. That was a very respectable feat of engineering for it’s day and pretty darn good even now. During a time when analog emission controls were choking the horsepower and drivability out of most engines the Busso V6 was exceptional. Magazines of the day rated the GTV6 as good a performer as any sports car in its price range. Today a minivan is quicker. Then again a 350cid Corvette in the 80s had a wheezing 170HP and today would get blown into the weeds by a Toyota Camry. Time marches on.

[@jwrarmstrong]

@@stuffhappens5681 You're absolutely right and sometimes we are all caught up in the tide of rising expectations and loose some perspective. Comparing the past with the present is a tricky thing at the best of times.

[@stuffhappens5681]

@@jwrarmstrong - It’s easier for a 65yr old geezer like me as long as my memory holds out. 🥴 Compared to what came before and the decades after, horsepower and drivability of cars built during the 80s was generally pretty awful. Cold starting and hesitation issues abounded. Compression ratios dropped and there were miles of rubber hoses under the hood. Most so called muscle cars sounded like vacuum cleaners and catalytic converters made exhaust smell like rotten eggs. There were scant few cars that drove well. The GTV6 was one of the few that didn’t suffer drivability issues. It did have reliability issues but those have all been documented and sorted out by now.

[@hh65flyer]

Love this series! Colin is so thorough. :-)

[@ericluebbers4415]

Living in Wisconsin I’m glad to see many of these come from my state. Definitely going to be looking for these when it’s warmer for cars and coffee.

[@3ducs]

I had an Alfetta GT four cylinder. With some suspension mods, springs and anti-sway bars, slightly wider wheels, it would corner very well. It also rusted very fast. Of course Alfa sited minor controls haphazardly/whimsically.

[@heavy_hate5346]

Sounds great! Would you upload video showing it on your channel

[@3ducs]

@@heavy_hate5346 "I had...", the car is long gone, basically sold for the value of its performance parts.

[@Follett2121]

Love this show! These owners were just as cool as their cars

[@MrUltraworld]

In 1986, I had 3 cars to choose from, the 944, the GTV-6 and the RX7. They were all about the same price and had similar 0-60 times. But Road & Track wet themselves over the new for '86 RX7 with the sport package. But #2 was the Alpha. Calloway was making hot-rod versions of the Alpha and I fell in love with its looks and interior layout. Calloway put a turbo package in my RX7 boosting power to just over 300hp. '86 was a good year for sports cars.

[@Engineerd3d]

I hope to pass my mustang on to my son. I hope he will enjoy it as much as I do. Also that gt-v6 looks immaculate, I hope to have a Alfa this nice one day.

[@rainemoilanen6821]

Those are both really cool cars! Thanks for both the show and the owners for showing them. It would be hard to choose between those two but I think if I was in the position to choose I'd probably go with the Alfa :)

[@marcryvon]

Fully agrees, But it's like apple. and oranges, you cannot compare them. So different from each other, their purpose too. I'd have both ! Plus an E type FHC and a '63 Split window. Then, i'd be a very happy man ! 😊

[@NovaResource]

Yes, both are beautiful but I’m a muscle car / pony car guy. I gotta have that V8 sound and thrust. HiPo 289’s are great engines.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Colin gets it.

[@jeffwarren8154]

I was 12 when this car was built. Ford sent a brochure to my Dad that showed the options available and what boxes to check, for a simple 6 cylinder Mustang up-to a K code Convertible. I filled out the form for my dad, which had all the options this car has. He bought a Country Squire instead. Then mom bought a 66 Fairlane GTA. Convertible. Good things come to those who wait.

[@islandaerial3414]

The Alpha had me at the Alpine Cassette mod 😂👌

[@k-peezy2723]

Unnnnffffff GTV-6. Always wanted one of these for so long.

[@dorinowens1004]

Love the story of the Mustang. I'm dreaming of cruising the NC beaches in a '86 Isuzu Trooper II but it's likely been crushed long ago.

[@VirtualGuth]

More good stuff - this is a great series.

[@substandardabuse6028]

Love the Alfa, very rare to find any still on the road here in Australia. The owners a time traveller, bought it in 1888 lol.

[@Cartier_specialist]

That's a pretty special Mustang K code GT.

[@blakerh]

Very cool video! Look forward to more!

[@friguy4444]

Five years ago there was a 1985 (I think) Alfa GTV-6 with around 100,000 Miles on it for sale in my town (great condition and lots of the parts replaced that were troublesome on these cars. But not perfect at all. It would have been a driver that someone tried to put love into. They were asking $2600. I thought about it but didn't have the cash at that time so now I wish I would have just borrowed the cash. However I don't know that I would have made a good Alfa owner as I love to do power upgrades on my cars. I also love to drive my cars hard. Maybe that's why I didn't have the cash back then LOL.

[@brixtonsaint]

Surprises me that “RADwood Era” hasn’t been added to the time line of cars on Wikipedia. It certainly seems to have entered into the vernacular.

[@broskimedula5300]

The South African 3.0 GTV Alfas are going for crazy money these days. That's the most collectable of them all.

[@zTheBigFishz]

great series

[@deanstevenson6527]

Favorite! ❤️8:23 Yep. It's in great condition. It's like a great 🎻 violin. In this case, Despite the addition of a V6 engine to die for, the Alfetta based Transaxle GTV...still a badly sorted car that could inspire you one second, and roast you with its clutch take-up and steering weight and corkscrew understeer the next. And despite the love of the parent company during the Nissan/Ford/Fiat 1986 buy out bidding wars.... Maybee it's that fact that makes these old cars the most delectable collectables. Thanks for all the Love in this article!

[@francoisrivard893]

My dad leased a new '84 GTV6 back in the day. I drove it a bunch and it displayed none of what you describe. The steering was "Delectable", still one of the best I ever experienced and it was easy / just light enough once you got the car going above about 3 mph. The handling balance was on point, easy to throttle steer and without much initial understeer, assuming you know what you're doing. The clutch was absolutely fine.

[@stuffhappens5681]

I own a GTV6 that’s every bit as nice as the one depicted here. I bought it for $20K 6 years ago. People thought I was nuts for paying so much. I’ve noticed some people love to pick them apart like they’re junk. I find those accusations to be way off base. The GTV6’s quirks are no worse than those on multimillion dollar Ferraris. Their handling is sublime. The clutch take up isn’t odd at all and works fine. Their exhaust note is a symphony. The positive attraction it gets from young and old onlookers is heartwarming.

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

These "Alfa" jacking points could be found also on Fiats from the 60s till 80s, and in FSOs till 2002. In early Fiat and FSO version you could lift two wheels with one jack, but the downside was if corrosion was involved, the jack would rip a part of the floor off and the car would fall on the ground. This was a real weakspot of those cars. It's also interesting how Alfa has a skidplate. Many Italian cars had very low sitting oil sumps that could be easily destroyed if the car went off the road or did a little jump. When license production of Fiat cars started in communist Poland in 1968, commie prime minister took one of the first cars for a spin over factory test track, sent the car airborne (there was a section of ramps that were supposed to be driven slower over to detect any issues with bodywork stiffness or interior fitting). Landing he crashed oil sump and was so pissed off he halted production until the weakspot issue is solved. From this point onwards all cars would get skidplates made of two steel profiles that allowed safe off-road driving and was used by police during chases, as these allowed factory cars to safely drive down stairs eg. in parks when necessary.

[@nathanscott5059]

You guys should do an international engine for your next engine build

[@chairmankaga101]

Man, $45k! My “driver” ‘82 with all sorts of crumminess inherent in a 40 year old Italian car got an offer of $14k recently just because it has zero rust and runs well, so maybe values will just continue to climb? Have we finally gotten there?

[@yayaesda1]

GTV6 😍👍🏼

[@theservant752]

The Gtv6 needs to have its hose clamps corrected to Roma Blocks, needs correct steering wheel and correct floor mats. very nice car.

[@stuffhappens5681]

I have all my Romablock clamps in a box. And have a MOMO wood wheel on mine. Also the wine glass wheels in the attic replaced by Ronal R1 replicas. Also Koni yellow shocks and thicker sway bars and urethane bushings. Stainless headers down & mid pipe w/Ansa tail section. Hawk ceramic brake pads. Alpine stereo w/Bluetooth. I like my car better this way. But if I ever sell it, the new owner can reinstall the old stuff if they want. In my opinion it isn’t necessary for these cars to be 100 point concours winning garage queens. There’s nothing wrong with some tasteful improvements.

[@theservant752]

@@stuffhappens5681 Yeah, Ronal (a1 or Turbo) wheels is a good upgrade for the Gtv6. @ 45-50k those things is what i would fix on this car otherwise it looks very good, we all know the first thing to check on any Alfa is if it has the corrct Roma Blocks ;). God Bless You.

[@stuffhappens5681]

@@theservant752 - Forgot to mention my car has 45,000 original miles. Also the subject car is missing the rear license plate black fiberglas valance panel. They deteriorate over the years. I took mine to a body shop and had it restored. God bless you too.

[@SamSteinig]

@@stuffhappens5681 Ronal R1s are the most beautiful wheels ever made. My Alfetta GT has real (non-replica) Ronal R1s (14x6)

[@doxydoxdelamanca9902]

Nice, Colin. And great vid. What's the proper way, I don't mean this question with a tongue in cheek, to get in so there's min bolster way.

[@colincomer4566]

Valid question. To minimize bolster wear one places their rear on the middle of the bottom cushion and then rotates ones legs into the car. As opposed to legs first and then dragging across the bolster. Same thing when you get out- swing legs out, lean forward, stand up without dragging across the bolster. The key is making that first approach land you in the middle of the seat between the bolsters not sitting on the edge and sliding into the seat. I know....crazy OCD stuff ;)

[@JohnDoe-xo7gg]

Man if you were anywhere near buffalo, you should check out my dads 1984 Chrysler Laser turbo. All original, 6500 miles. It is very close to showroom quality

[@lexstockton2451]

Thank you, interesting cars and fun and enjoyable presenter. Sorry if I’m too controversial. 🙄

[@colincomer4566]

Haha. How dare you come on KZbin and say something positive! 😁 Thanks for watching!

[@rolypriala3858]

A real expert wouldn’t require a paint gauge to distinguish between original factory and repaired/repainted panels, and he certainly wouldn’t confuse microns with millimetres. I was rolling on the floor when he straight faced made the comment that the Alfa’s fender paint was around 25 mils thick! :))))))))

[@colincomer4566]

Hi! As mentioned below to another viewer unfamiliar with how paint is measured in mils: "...in the U.S. the thickness of paint is expressed in mils as noted (not “millimeters” as that would be really thick!) One mil equals 1/1000 of inch just fyi. The rest of the world expresses coating thickness in microns (1 micron = 1 millionth of a meter and 25.4 microns = .001” inch or 1 mil)." As for being able to distinguish paintwork without a gauge, yes, after 37 years of doing body and paint, as well as inspecting thousands of paint jobs, yes it is true I don't require a paint meter either. But for the magical world of the Internet and our viewers it is the best way to illustrate things the camera can not convey here on KZbin. Hope this helps explain mils vs millimeters etc as well. Thanks for watching.

[@richardbell7693]

Paint thickness is measured in microns, not millimetres!

[@colincomer4566]

Actually in the U.S. the thickness of paint is expressed in mils as noted (not “millimeters” as that would be really thick!) One mil equals 1/1000 of inch just fyi. The rest of the world expresses coating thickness in microns (1 micron = 1 millionth of a meter and 25.4 microns = .001” inch or 1 mil). So, for these videos shot in the US with a US paint gauge mils is indeed correct. Thanks for watching!

[@increiblepelotudo]

Most cases are maintained to a cost. Nothing more. This is most likely always garage kept by a well to do owner. It’s not brain surgery. All the KZbin car channels I follow tend to already have a leg up by coming from a well to do background. It’s life

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

Very cool!! 👍👍👍

[@cayman9873]

You are so respectful. Tell me about your paint guage. Is it a good one you would recommend ? Just looking for not getting burned buying a used 911 or older bmw

[@scootosan]

2 Wisconsin cars, when they salt the roads here they make the Bonniville Salt Flats look like Kitty litter, extra points for lack of rust, neither car has been driven in the snow... thankfully

[@ssroadrace427]

The Mustang was my dad' daily driver up until 1976, when he finally decided to buy a '67 Malibu winter beater.

[@SMlFFY85]

A couple of years ago these Alfas were £8k-12k.

[@pabloprincich9276]

Alfa😍

[@floydblandston108]

Car lovers from the Northeast weep quietly to ourselves during this program.

[@kenxiong6830]

Uneven paint on an Italian car? That’s normal quality control 😂 That Busso is a wonderful engine. There’s better Italian options for that price point

[@CounterStriker013009]

Keep both car so great, wish have Toyota GTS-APEX to introduce LOL

[@TOM-C.]

My dad shocked me when he drove up in a brand new 1972 Datsun 240Z. I was 11 at the time, and it was not in his character to purchase a sports car. When he'd pick me up from school I thought I was the coolest kid with the coolest dad especially when he floored it to over 100 everyday we drove home. 😁 P.S. That Alpha has a lot of Datsun in it, the rear lights resemble the 240Z's, and the overall look is very much like a Datsun B210. I wonder who was taking styling cues from who?

[@Milkmans_Son]

The question is, was your Mom shocked? My dad got home from work one night driving a brand new metallic green '73 with brown interior. I was only four, but I distinctly remember two things. One was of course the smell. The second was my Mom asking "well where are the kids going to sit" and my dad gesturing towards the back. He never admitted it but we are pretty sure that right up until that very moment he thought it was a 2+2.

[@TOM-C.]

@@Milkmans_Son LOL, ours was the two seater also, but the night he bought it was one of my fondest memories. They decided to hit Vegas 300 miles away. and I sat crunched up, or laying back looking out the hatch window at the stars, it was a great trip! 😁✌ P.S. My mom loved it, and later in 84 bought a new 300ZX for herself! 🙂

[@stuffhappens5681]

@@TOM-C. - As someone that owned a 1600 Roadster for many years I have nothing against Datsuns, but park a B210 next to a GTV6 and there’s no mistaking one from the other. The GTV6’s low sleek stance is proportionally more akin to a Volkswagen Scirocco as they were both designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro at ItalDesign.

[@TOM-C.]

@@stuffhappens5681 Well of course not, but the general shape is pretty close, and I did say very much like, not exact. The Sirocco looks similar, but is all straight lines where the B210 has the swooped roof, the sirocco 's is angles. They both do resemble the Ferrari, and it was likely Nissan who took styling cues from the GTV6. The 240Z also resembles the Jaguar XKE (my mother's favorite car of all time) so this is telling that Nissan took a lot of cues from other manufactures. 🙂👍✌

[@Milkmans_Son]

@@TOM-C. The funny thing is there's no such thing as a 240 2+. In Dad's defense he bought the car in 1974, so Z's with back seats did exist at the time. I never really thought about it until just now, but if he had bought one of those bloated 2+2's with the the horrible flat-top carbs, my life could be very different now. My first car was a Z, my second car was a ZX, and so on. I have never not owned a Z (and I never will not own a Z).

[@nikoladamjanovic2313]

They need to put this cars on the lift so that we can see the floor and undercarige

[@Super1967ford]

Love the mustang even if I’d hardly fit being tall lol the red thing looks like something me and my buddies back in the day woulda got for $100 to trash lol

[@marcryvon]

"the red thing" ! 😳 No comment...

[@05gtdriver]

Hahaha, yeah, I remember seeing those "red things" lined up in an Italian car repair shop with owners unwilling to pay the repair costs and mechanics befuddled by it's inherent electrical flaws. I was offered an '84 red thing in 1992 for $800, but the wiring loom would make a plate of spaghetti blush... I guess moral of the story, hold on to something slightly interesting long enough and it'll appreciate in value...eventually 😏

[@Noobmaster-bj9xl]

Pls try to get a vette Z06 soon to review !!!

[@ivan9066]

It's so sad to see a GTV6 in American bumpers. :'(

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

It does not matter what YOU or the appraiser says its worth, its worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay for it.

[@NovaResource]

What you said is true ….. if you are selling the car. However, many people (like most on this series) aren’t selling the car. They are usually getting them appraised for the purposes of insurance. So for a classic car insurance company, it DOES matter what the owner or the appraiser says it’s worth.

[@SharkAttackSkinder]

Calling the radiator inexpensive and then saying 3 to 4 thousand dollars. Lol thats what my car cost!

[@colincomer4566]

Actually I said that is “NOT an inexpensive” part 😁

[@ThaDentMan]

Any decent pdr guy can fix that fender.

[@heavy_hate5346]

Is that Alpha Jeremy Clarkson bought for grand tour and took it home?

[@lauri.lyijymaali]

Yes. His is a GTV6 also.

[@johnjuarez8005]

That is an incorrect Ralley Pack, it is for a 66 Mustang.

[@ssroadrace427]

You're wrong. It's the correct Rallye Pack because I remember the day we bought that car when it was 9 mos. old. It is correct for '65 and never been out of the car.

[@onscreenstudio7070]

Nathan Fielder reviews an Alfa

[@TerribleUsernameAmirite]

Lmao

[@colincomer4566]

Shhh....don't give away my secret.

[@NoPrivateProperty]

The mustang owner laughed out loud after realizing he screwed his friend out of $20k.

[@marcryvon]

As he said, he was a very nice guy. Fair.

[@NoPrivateProperty]

@@marcryvon no nice guys, just pigs and suckers

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

Is this in Chicago?

[@ssroadrace427]

Milwaukee

[@Damian_Goddard]

he should just wait to sell the alfa

[@TonFordMustang]

Number maching mustang , are you sure ?, the classic mustang has only period correct casting in the block you only can see when you take out the starter .

[@colincomer4566]

Yes I am sure. K Codes (and only K Codes) have the VIN on the right side of the block. Thanks for watching.

[@b0kb0k]

This show needs a lift. Silly to evaluate any car without a lift...

[@noahbusker2674]

Old men doing old man things…

[@marcryvon]

Jealous guy doing jealous guy things. 😂😂

[@ssroadrace427]

You'll be old someday. Maybe.

[@joshuagibson2520]

That Alpha is a hot pile of trash.

[@gldstone]

*Alfa

[@SamSteinig]

@@gldstone "Alpha Romero" :)

[@gldstone]

@@SamSteinig nice Phord as well

[@SamSteinig]

@@gldstone Dephinitely