looking at 6:35, considering that intel's e-cores dont always get used in games (yet they count towards CPU utilization), its possible that the game is CPU limited and not bandwidth limited. Did you do any tests on this, like lowering the resolution to see if performance increased? Id love to know!
@Hubwood7 ай бұрын
Yepp I did, not CPU limited. The 125H "only" is an i5, but it's not the limiting factor here.
@jeji58607 ай бұрын
Finally! An affordable Egpu dock!! ❤
@Hubwood7 ай бұрын
Thanks again mate :)
@jeji58607 ай бұрын
@@Hubwooddo you think the gpu dock will work if i use a 3080 with my 4050 laptop? Will it mess with the drivers?
@Hubwood7 ай бұрын
No, you can use the same drivers 👍
@RobloxianX6 ай бұрын
I love the idea of eGPUs. But even Occulink will have a bad bottleneck. We gotta wait until Thunderbolt 5 is a mainstream feature, and not a Razer Blade 18 exclusive.
@D2firetech6 ай бұрын
Thunderbolt 5 will be 120gbps on displays only but on pcie connections/ egpu it will be 64 gbps so its the same as oculink. 👍
@RobloxianX6 ай бұрын
@@D2firetech Defeats the purpose of TB5? People are perfectly fine using displayport.
@D2firetech6 ай бұрын
I was saying I only reached 64 gbps on pcie connections.
@mechanicalmonk20206 ай бұрын
TB5 will be garbage obviously. We must wait for TB(N+1) always
@axescar5 ай бұрын
Nothing stops manufacturers from implementing oculink 2.0 (pcie4) even with x8 connectivity.
@icyspecter4 ай бұрын
for egpu maybe better disable resizable bar to avoid performance bugs
@yoajp12 күн бұрын
thankyou for the blender benchmark!
@bepo137 ай бұрын
Great video and interesting topic. Something that might definitely increase lifespan of laptops with thunderbolt 5. Only thing that would be really nice is that in game comparison you included full powered 4070 from your PC too. But still nice finding!
@LukMatx4 ай бұрын
eGPU even on TB3 is great, but not for gaming. It's awesome for video editing and AI tasks, you can run it even on $200 Thinkpad turnining it into ultimate workstation. Difference for example in Davinci Resolve on TB3 vs PCIexpress are minimal.
@roqeyt35667 ай бұрын
Always love it when you upload Somehow I can always purchase what you review in my country This is definitely on my radar! I bought a gigabyte aorus laptop you reviewed last year, and it comes with a thunderbolt connection. Buying the dock will definitely make it last
@TrusteftTech7 ай бұрын
For the mini PC, what about the 1070ti in your PC? This way to see if the difference is as huge as with the 4070. Basically at what point there is the sweetspot for what GPU to use and not lose too much performance. I like USB 4, but I feel like an occulink or whatever USB5 will be, would be more worth it. Now, can we get one, closed too, for this price? :)
@Hubwood7 ай бұрын
Some loss but not as big as fit the 4070. Thinking the sweet spot might be around RTX 3060 / 2070 / RX 6700 / 7600
@TrusteftTech7 ай бұрын
@@Hubwood Thank you.
@piercarlociulli21836 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this review. I'm keeping an eye on this product on Aliexpress for couple weeks Now. I've a Maxed Out Macbook with i9 and 64gb of Ram, Since I use a lot of 3d programs I'm evaluating an Nvidia Gpu to work on Bootcamp. Does this Enclosure support Power Delivery on the TB3 port?
@Hubwood6 ай бұрын
Oh I honestly don't know. I would have to check on that...
@Randombullterrier7 ай бұрын
Great review, please cover more affordable egpu docks
@Shapeofselfhood6 ай бұрын
Good Video and good testing :) Only thing You should also consider ist testing on 1440p. Besides the bandwith limitation are lower resoultions more cpu bound while higher resolutions are using more the gpu. It's possible that You see a better performance with the RTX 4070 egpu closer to the desktop at 1440p.
@LuminousSpace5 ай бұрын
with oculink definitely closer, tb4 or usb just not, tested this with gpd g1 at 1080p which have lower performance than 4070ti difference between oculink and usb4 is like night and day
@smurftheocean1818Ай бұрын
should I plug PCIE power pin directly into gpu, or into that external gpu tools?
@HubwoodАй бұрын
The PCIe goes directl to the GPU. The big 24pin connector of the PSU goes into the eGPU base.
@smurftheocean1818Ай бұрын
@Hubwood so I should not use the PCIe slot that next to 24 pin? cause I see some egpu has that PCIe pin
@HubwoodАй бұрын
@smurftheocean1818 don't know what you mean to be honest. The one in the video does not have that. 🤔
@montgomeryfitzpatrick4738 күн бұрын
Ive got a Legion Go with a spare 3080 12gb and extra PSU so if i get a egpu base(going with one on amazon i can return easy for $150) i can max out my living room tv at 4k60 on most games without moving my pc or running 100ft hdmi 2.1 cable through house
@montgomeryfitzpatrick4738 күн бұрын
Router TV and PC wireless card are 5 years old so streaming 4k would an be expensive upgrade
@RobRuffMusic3 ай бұрын
Is this just a bracket stand and you have to buy the GPU separately?... Or does this include the actual GPU in the AliExpress link?
@Hubwood3 ай бұрын
No this does not include a GPU as everyone chooses their own GPU. Including the GPU would make a price of 100$ impossible. People would buy this and then sell the GPU 😅
@rmt35894 ай бұрын
Any advice for an eGPU for a Raspberry Pi? Gaming(server) would be nice, but my primary needs are Embarrassingly Parallel.
@Hubwood4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't make sense since the pi CPU would be a hard bottleneck. Also I'm not familiar if raspberry pis do have USB4 or thunderbolt or Occulink. And it might be a hustle if you're not running windows ...
@rmt35894 ай бұрын
@@Hubwood Ty. It has a USB, but I think USB3. Think I found some AI kits that I may be able to use.
@phblue39735 ай бұрын
Man, from what i have heard u can be losing fps bc u not using the oculink cable or at list a connection in the m2 port, thunderbolt is easier to connect but u lose fps
@TheDailyMemesShow6 ай бұрын
Can you use more than one video card for AI training with this setup (maybe creating a multi video card rig)? Thanks for your answer!
@rdraw20673 ай бұрын
Cara muito obrigado pela ajuda, era esse tipo de vídeo que tava procurando para colocar uma egpu no mini pc via thunderbolt no berlink ser6 💟💟💟
@7374jdkk3 ай бұрын
Love the tutorial!! I am a complete noob in computers, may i know the recommended power supply for the 1070ti or 3060?
@7374jdkk3 ай бұрын
Using it for my legion go
@Hubwood3 ай бұрын
Should be fine with a decent 400w power supply. But it need enough PCIe connectors! So make sure to check that before buying...
@spaanmac28 күн бұрын
While using Blender for 3D rendering you did show performance of combined GPUs so is this applicable for gameing too? Did you have to do anything special to have them work like this? Also, while just using the eGPU, I just have to disable hardware of my internal GPU?
@Hubwood28 күн бұрын
No you can't use both GPUs for Gaming. It's not a must to deactivate the internal GPU, but if you have problems it's an option that might fix problems
@300920013 ай бұрын
Is it possible to connect other monitors to the external GPU ports ?
@Hubwood3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@SIMPLEisWIN4 күн бұрын
Does it also provide power delivery?
@VincentTubed3 ай бұрын
so 1 - not $ 100. and not less but more for just the eGPU. plus indeed the power supply. so $150 -$175 bucks
@faizannabi75405 ай бұрын
Thanks, man I have the same setup gmktech k8 and was looking for a cheap egpu as I have a spare 1060 6GB.
@axioslive2915Ай бұрын
Great video sir I wanted order I have 4070 super And my laptop does thunderbolt 4 So I wanted ask u did u use the thunderbolt 4 for your 4070 on this video Or should I go FOR OCUIlink
@HubwoodАй бұрын
If your laptop has oculink, you should use that. It's faster. If it has thunderbolt only, you can use this eGPU. Yes.
@kva32627 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks a lot forthe video! Are you planning to test an eGPU with OCuLink and compare results with TB3/TB4 and desktop installation?
@Hubwood7 ай бұрын
Need a oculink capable device first 😅
@johntoto54965 ай бұрын
@@Hubwoodthere are plenty of cheap nvme to oculink adapters and there are egpu boxes oculink compatible (for around the same price).
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
@@johntoto5496 yeah I know but the nvme solution is not a solution to most people. Involves opening the laptop... Blocking an nvme port... Beeping ugly and uncomfortable... Not being flexible when you actually need to transport your laptop often etc.
@miloboy823 ай бұрын
will this supply power over the TB to a handheld pc? likw legion go?
@giovannigrigoretti04 ай бұрын
Hey ppl how much is loss with gpu's performance on this station? It's ok to build up it around maybe HX99G with rx7900xt or this is pointless?
@haraldkrieger65626 ай бұрын
What about connecting miniPCIe or M.2 PCIe directly to your GPU?
@omarshady48915 ай бұрын
Your laptop's power supply can't power the laptop and the gpu at the same time
@adelalmansoury6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your great guide for this Topic.
@joebilly37196 ай бұрын
I have a silly question, if I use two thunderbolt 4s (assuming wikingoo has to thunderbolt ports) would performance increase ?
@DanielCWERTY5 ай бұрын
Thats depend your cpu, If you have highend cpu Which can handle dual gpu, the performance of gpu will double(in term you use dual gpu), But you should remember this, use two gpu without necessary knowledge is disaster, I don't recommend that unless you have proper skill for do that
@tack12782 ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me if there is any box that can perfectly fit for this egpu dongle?
@MrlFixZ4 ай бұрын
Will it support rog ally.. cuz i have sealed rx6700xt rog strix gaming oc
@hma4195 ай бұрын
The usb from the egpu can charge the asus ally x or the legion GO?
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
No.
@PreventmmАй бұрын
Can I stick a big gpu in here I'm thinking about using the Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 6600 EAGLE
@HubwoodАй бұрын
Sure :)
@oakleytrue241428 күн бұрын
Would this work with new line of Snapdragon Laptop too?
@Hubwood28 күн бұрын
If they have usb 4 or thunderbolt, in theory, yes
@oakleytrue241428 күн бұрын
@@Hubwood Thank you
@jabronilifestyle2 ай бұрын
OCulink is way faster. Even when TB5 comes out, OCulink will still be superior. The only plug I see outperforming OCulink is the new ASUS Mini-SAS which hits 192GBs
@stansmith7445Ай бұрын
Say I use the thunderbolt connection with a cheaper lower powered GPU. Would the difference in performance be as large it is with the 4070 compared to native?
@jabronilifestyleАй бұрын
@@stansmith7445 it depends on which lower powered GPU you're comparing to a 4070. Main point is the Thunderbolt interface in general is way slower than OCulink. If you're gonna go external GPU, use OCulink instead of thunderbolt every single time.
@X862goАй бұрын
Does this have power over pcie?
@dariomoratafernandez40513 ай бұрын
Thunderbolt 5 or direct pcie 4.0x4 are better options to avoid 40 GBps bottleneck. At 64-80 GBps bottleneck is minimum, less than 10 fps
@GG-Play125 ай бұрын
Can you tell me how much will cost its price in Bangladesh. I had a laptop hp 250 G9 with i3 12gen processor Dose will it work
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
You can order it for the same price over the link with AliExpress
@yurika-rie5 ай бұрын
Google exist lil bro use it to convert
@hassanchakir167221 күн бұрын
Does it charge for example handheld devices?
@deluge647919 күн бұрын
No that's not going to work
@draadi66035 ай бұрын
Hello sir so we don need to open laptop and connect it and also it is directl connected to port without going process of m.2?
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
Correct.
@draadi66035 ай бұрын
@@Hubwood thank you sir appreciate to your response i have lenovo IdeaPad slim 3 not a gaming one and i have budget for amd 5600xt or 1050ti will it work on it?
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
@@draadi6603 Does your Lenovo IdeaPad slim 3 have Thunderbolt? Then it will work. The 5600XT is MUCH faster than the 1050ti by the way.
@Mr.Askani23 күн бұрын
If i order this egpu from aliexpress do i get power supply with graphics card? Please Reply 🙏
@Hubwood23 күн бұрын
No you have to use your own power supply and your own graphics card
@Mr.Askani23 күн бұрын
@Hubwood 100$ only for thunderbolt ?
@Hubwood23 күн бұрын
@@Mr.Askani Yes its only the eGPU Dock.
@danny-wv5yb6 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for razerblade rtx 5090 with thunderbolt 5
@stormfire4515 ай бұрын
40gb bandwidth is larger than pcie 3.0 x16 isn't it?
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
No no no. You're mixing up GigaBYTE with GigaBIT ;) PCIE 3.0 x16 is faster :)
@shibin8579Ай бұрын
Hi I have this same setup but every time. I have to restart my laptop for the gpu to work why is that
@HubwoodАй бұрын
Before you turn on the laptop you have to tun on the eGPU.
@shibin8579Ай бұрын
@Hubwood It's turned on and connected, I have updated the driver's multiple times
@user-mz6yc9wd6w4 ай бұрын
can i use it with usb c port (i have office laptop)?
@arferf28692 ай бұрын
Need a USB thunderbolt 3 or 4 Not juste a "simple USB c"
@VivekSingh-ih3zg7 ай бұрын
Brother, what software you use for screen recording?
@Hubwood7 ай бұрын
OBS via a capture card on a seperate PC
@VivekSingh-ih3zg7 ай бұрын
@@Hubwood Okay, Thank you very much♥️
@gabrielpeter11255 ай бұрын
Noob disclaimer. Can you connect the gpu output directly to the monitor and if you can, does that help with performance?
@ChristopherRodriguez-qu6pu5 ай бұрын
That is the preferred method. If you still use the output from the main machine, you need to send the signal back through the Thunderbolt/USB port, thus consuming more of the limited bandwidth you need for the GPU.
@ChristopherRodriguez-qu6pu5 ай бұрын
So always use the output from the GPU you are using
@RobRuffMusic3 ай бұрын
Why do you need the minipc box thing?
@Hubwood3 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@RobRuffMusic3 ай бұрын
The other small silver box@@Hubwood
@Hubwood3 ай бұрын
@@RobRuffMusic you mean the mini pc? You don't need that. I juat used that MininPC to test the eGPU as well. Because that MininPC also has a thunderbolt port. So it can use the eGPU. You could also use a laptop with thunderbolt 4 instead. Or a gaming handheld or really any device with thunderbolt 4 or usb 4.
@carlosc38997 ай бұрын
Can you do a legion go tutorial please 🙏🥺🙏
@vyshnavraj94266 ай бұрын
Will this work with ryzen laptops ?
@Hubwood6 ай бұрын
If they have usb 4 it CAN work.
@Havanu815 ай бұрын
Oculink is the only way that makes sense to run an EGPU in 2024. That or an Asus Flow/XG Mobile combo if you're made out of money.
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
Yeah oculink is a bit better but less common ...
@Havanu815 ай бұрын
@@Hubwood Minisforum seems to include them more and more often these days. Love their designs (even though after sales support is supposedly terrible...)
@NF276_5 ай бұрын
can i use that on rog ally x?
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
Will Test that probably next week ;)
@NF276_5 ай бұрын
@@Hubwood imma push that notification then
@spenceranderson40455 ай бұрын
yes the ally x now comes with one usb4 port with display port 1.4
@Tidedroid7 ай бұрын
You should text oculink devices next
@derJackistweg6 ай бұрын
Für mich wäre das im Hinblick auf Videoschnitt spannend. As always: Do not follow the link: Führt zum 134€ Preis, cookies sei Dank. Mit VPN wird der gleiche Artikel für 107 € angezeigt. Das exakt gleiche gilt für Amazon Links.
@Hubwood6 ай бұрын
Danke für den Hinweis. Für Videoschnitt absolut hilfreich, yes.
@Asadc19956 ай бұрын
Damn this is really cheap compared to a razer core x or hp omen accelerator
@BlueshellGamer3 ай бұрын
How much woupd I needto payyou to help me build a pc? Maybe you can even documebt it, and make a video ' I taught a complete noob to build a gaming pc' or. Something... I really know only basics about pcs hardware. i.e a power supply, graphics card, case, cpu, monitor is needed. Lol But I really want to add powe tto my ally X. So maybe a e gpu build is a good place to start?
@noname-uf4je5 ай бұрын
better spend 100$ on old PC with i3\i5 from 6-7 gen and put 4070 and even 1070 there than "do all this in video" (and do not rely on all "this" cables and problems with band width and etc.)
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
This is for older laptops, mini pcs of handhelds.
@Mr_elseworld6 ай бұрын
Is this safe for any laptop?
@Hubwood6 ай бұрын
Yes. It's not dangerous. But the laptop needs Thunderbolt or USB 4.
@vladimirzaika3594Ай бұрын
So we started only 100$, then 122-150$ and without gpu.
@HubwoodАй бұрын
The eGPU case is as low as 100$. Yes. If you're using a used gpu and PSU you can go as Low as 200-250$. A complete eGPU with PSU and GPU usually costs hundreds of dollars. So complaining about 20$ is a bit.... Well 😬
@vladimirzaika3594Ай бұрын
@@Hubwood Hold on, the title says "A real External GPU for only 100$" but reality is that the case is 100+ only without PCU and GPU it self.
@mackximus1Ай бұрын
Better than a razor chroma at $500 🙄🙄
@vladimirzaika3594Ай бұрын
@@mackximus1 don't buy it then
@warlockboyburns3 ай бұрын
the lid costs an extra $200 rofl
@oskarzemcik15485 ай бұрын
Here in europe it cost 150$. :0/
@Hubwood5 ай бұрын
It's on sale often
@henryofskalitz22284 ай бұрын
I game on a thinkpad p53 man
@X862go5 ай бұрын
Would this work with a discreet card?
@eineatombombe5 ай бұрын
the whole point is using a discrete gpu
@X862goАй бұрын
@eineatombombe but dose it have power over pcie?
@holzlaim28646 ай бұрын
Enter shikari 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@PriceIsNeverRight4 ай бұрын
2024 and eGPUs still not worth the hustle
@lewalexzy52572 ай бұрын
Better to just get a cheap used gaming Laptop
@racing_mntage15842 ай бұрын
My brothers already got a 3050 laptop but thr 4gb vram kills the performance so it would be worth it for him
@PriceIsNeverRight2 ай бұрын
@@racing_mntage1584 not worth it, instead of buying an external 3060 gpu save money, sell your 3050 laptop for $200 add $400 to that and buy yourself a 4060 laptop used or a 4050 laptop brand new
@ErnestCarroll5 ай бұрын
It’s $100
@kgrayman5 ай бұрын
Clickbait title tho 😂
@leekame이카메4 ай бұрын
I installed egpu + 3060ti before you mentioned. The game is good. But the encoding is disappointing 😂
@dayner9896 ай бұрын
Whats next ecpu? Then ememory and eventually everything will be external 😂
@D2firetech6 ай бұрын
That's a nice idea but I think cpus need more bandwidth due to how much of the motherboard cpus use so maybe🤔