A Refutation of Gnosticism | Why Paul Is The Father of Gnosticism

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Aaron Abke

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@aristidesaint-jean2322 9 күн бұрын

How was the debate with Wess man?

@AaronAbke 9 күн бұрын

It was incredible. I thoroughly laid down the the Jesus Way philosophy and all the main points I wanted to give in this debate, and they went almost completely uncontested by Wes. He even agreed/conceded to a number of them. He wanted to drag us into debating over granular scholarly details about things I could care less about. The message I came to deliver, I delivered thoroughly and passionately. I am very excited for the video to drop on the public in the next few days. God is good! 🙌🏼

@prairievintage 9 күн бұрын

So blessed Aaron 💛☀️🙏 thank you.

@Shadowjedi007 9 күн бұрын

@@AaronAbke That is awesome to hear! Love your message and grace brother.

@dellboyAA 9 күн бұрын

@@AaronAbke I can't wait to watch it 🔥its inspiring to see you speak the truth with so much courage, just have to hope they have the courage to show the debate in full 🙏

@Noah-gm1wb 9 күн бұрын

@@AaronAbkeafter Billy Carson we needed someone to debate Wes lmao

@fromthedepths_podcast 10 күн бұрын

“Did Jesus come to change God’s mind about us? Or did Jesus come to change man’s mind about God?” SO good!!!!

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

Right?

@fasted8468 10 күн бұрын

"You will see the son of man seated at the right hand of the power, riding on the clounds of Heaven." -oh but son of man is this superduper complicated term Nah

@Hungrytube2 10 күн бұрын

@@AaronAbke 💯

@Hungrytube2 10 күн бұрын

@@fasted8468 💯

@chenelhoward2561 10 күн бұрын

@@fromthedepths_podcast that's a game changer. Looooove it❤️

@devonm6187 10 күн бұрын

Beautiful stuff. Ill forever be a follower of Christ. I had a profound experience with Him 3 and a hald years ago that got rid of all of my spiritual confusion. I thought He was a fictional character until He came to me and gave me an experience more real than life itself.

@disciple1119 10 күн бұрын

There is nothing greater than a true personal experience>>>> light/love draws light/love through extending unconditionally to others expecting nothing ; path of a bodisattava❤💥🤍

@awakennz5182 10 күн бұрын

Love it !!! 🙏✨

@beckyteresa 8 күн бұрын

"Just because a group of people was persecuted, doesn't automatically make them right." 🔥🔥🔥

@blancani7v723 8 күн бұрын

gnosticism is the truth

@miglix22 8 күн бұрын

That also applies to Christians, because they were persecuted by Romans that doesn't Christians right, please apply your same logic to yourself.

@sagemonkey.28 10 күн бұрын

I actually like the concept of the demiurge and his archons, the father, Sofia, and the eons. I personally see it as a piece of a larger puzzle. What if gnostic concepts showed us the problem and Jesus's teachings gave us the solution. What if the secret knowledge is the realization that the demiurge….is YOU!, that the demiurge is your shadow that needs to be confronted, understood, and integrated. What if loving others as you love yourself, having compassion and understanding even towards your enemies, even towards the demiurge, combined with loving and compassionate acts, is the path to dissolving the delusion of the demiurge and the realization of one's own Christ consciousness, that was always there.

@rolfskytte 10 күн бұрын

Read Jesus yourself and then read it again. These things that you dream of combining - they don't mix. Save yourself. Edit: God is real, and christ consciousness is heresy for a reason: it is acting like God yourself, instead of holding Him up. It leads to death (not in the way you think). Repent ♥️

@Rastapimp101 10 күн бұрын

The demiurge is what God appears to be when you have never tasted his light, it's the idea of God we get when we have not yet found him, the God that seems tyrannical due to the fact people worship him and you have no idea why, but the demiurge falls apart when you realise he was looking for a way to connect to you, from infinite being to finite being

@rolfskytte 10 күн бұрын

@@Rastapimp101 thanks, beautiful. Divine order.

@sagemonkey.28 10 күн бұрын

@ relax Paul lol. You are entitled to your opinion, but I’m just not convinced that God needs me to hold him up. I’m actually glad that you made this comment because this is exactly what I was referring to. It’s this type of thinking that keeps people deluded, blind and lost. I heard that when Jesus said to repent, it was meant to mean to go beyond the mind. Isn’t that interesting?

@rolfskytte 10 күн бұрын

@@sagemonkey.28 we are not holding him up for his sake, but for our own.

@butlersracing7692 10 күн бұрын

My best friend died 2 days before Christmas 2024. Declared dead for 5 hours he went to "Heaven" and met with 7 Elohim, Adam and Eve as with "The One" as a divine bright and shinning light. What was shared with him was Gnostic to the core. He was then asked by "The One" if he would like to return to his body or stay and reincarnate. He chose to return so that he can share his story. I say with him for 5 hours the other night and will be listening to him some more this weekend as I tattoo his Chest. His story is amazing and because he's been my brother since a young boy I think I trust him more than anyone else. Secondly he was a believer but was not met my Jesus? Lastly God or "The One" told him that he is the original sin and therefore everything even our sins are of him. Forget about all scripture or books. They apparently have all been twisted by man. Even those red letters you referenced from. This he too was shown.... No book can assist you in your spiritual journey as divine sparks of God/The one. Even the nastiest beings on earth are part of that divine spark. In short ALL are ONE.

@C_los74 10 күн бұрын

I have heard many NDE (near death experiences), over the years, though some stories can be totally different, the core of the message is still the same, all is One. I equate this to the same as individual life experiences. You can have two identical twins interpret the same life situation differently, yes I agree words have been twisted over time but the overall message of Yeshua (Jesus) is to love God and love your neighbor as yourself because all is God

@eupuente 10 күн бұрын

So interesting. So, did he told you something about his soul being "trapped"? He only had two options: reincarnation or returning to his actual body? Is there a escape to the spirit? Im deeply looking and investigating this topic because i had an experience with ayahuasca where i had a very dificult kind of download, where i saw this king of eternal reincarnating process for the benefit of some kind of dark forces. The places i went in that state were super dark and painful and i got out of that experience having muy only hope in just living this life and kind of forgeting that. But since then, studied the bible, paganism, gnosis, everything seaeching for answers. So, really would like if you could share some more of your friends experience. Love from Argentina ❤❤❤

@Zacksavage89 9 күн бұрын

So jesus is the original sin?

@julieryan9136 9 күн бұрын

@@eupuente I’m with you I believe that it’s for lack of a better word the devil and they are sending us back to earth reincarnate with a memory, wipe soaking off our energy and just working their agenda. They don’t want us to get off earth. I’m with you I think the evil ones want us on earth causing destruction for them. It’s a soul trap I’m with you.

@butlersracing7692 9 күн бұрын

@@C_los74 yes this is true. The core of it is and something similar to what the Rastafarian believe in and quote often is "I and I". I and I are one. If you are the I and somebody else is the I then effectively everyone is the I and the I is one. To love thy neighbor is to love "The One".

@freethinker79 8 күн бұрын

Ancient Gnosticism is the key to understanding it all.

@HBWP-r3t 7 күн бұрын

Aaron's teachings are from the serpent line. These teachings are not from God but the Watchers of The Book of Enoch. He's handing them the apple of knowledge of good and evil. Free will, your choice.

@shaunefadeley 6 күн бұрын

..the serpent line?..well, that's new lol. Guess I better dive in...

@noctrno 5 күн бұрын

@@HBWP-r3t Serpant line????

@MichaelRyanEpley 4 күн бұрын

Aaron Abke is a well educated, well intentioned man and good person with a strong understanding of spiritual truth who is doing his best to share the knowledge of Christ.

@HBWP-r3t 4 күн бұрын

@MichaelRyanEpley There is no doubt that Aaron is educated, but I believe his understanding of gnostic teachings is weak. We don't need another Saul of Tarsus. I have one teacher, and he is the Savior.

@swirvin704 10 күн бұрын

The Soul is a Drop in the Eternal Ocean of Love, which is Almighty God. The Drop is in the Ocean and the Ocean is in the Drop. In reality there is no returning to the ocean because the drop has never left its home, it is only our awareness of that reality that needs to be nourished, as the peeling away of illusory forms of the mind is an arduous process and the ultimate purpose of Life.

@Jimmy-vn9hv 7 күн бұрын

Good Stuff written here! Thank you!

@robencahoon1267 5 күн бұрын

I had high hopes for Aaron hoping that he would could really upgrade fundamentalism in Christianity. He has said Jesus was an Essenne or a Nassene. Well the Gnostics were also Nassenes. The Gnostics were suppressed and persecuted by the Roman government. When I read Gnostic texts, I see the true teaching of Jesus’ mystical teachings.

@TreetrunkVneck 8 күн бұрын

“…You wander from room to room /hunting for the diamond necklace / that is already around your neck.” Rumi, as I remember it. Thank you, Aaron, for the clarity, the education, and the resonant feeling that comes with your words. We are blessed!

@davellyndagneau5 10 күн бұрын

Thank you my brother for lighting my heart on fire! I’m so grateful to have found your videos and 4DU! This has been critical in healing the wounds of growing up in Pauline based religion! Living a life now of love, compassion and forgiveness rather than judgment, torment and shame. ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🙏❤️🙌

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

Such a blessing to hear! 🙏

@kevinlogan6171 10 күн бұрын

I will be honest with you I had to stop at 18:34 because your understanding of gnosticism is incredibly shallow. There are various gnostic sects with different beliefs. For exemple the Valentinians does not believe the Demiurge to be evil. The Mandeans who are still present today do not recognize Jesus as the son of god and have nothing to do with Paul nor paulinian theology. Generally speaking most of them recognize the tribal war deity Iao/ zeus/ Jupiter known as YAHWEH to be the real devil and creator of the evil material universe. Voegelin in his books " a new science of politics" recognizes some characteristics to the gnostics, the main ones being an irreversible dissatisfaction with life, the belief in a flawed cosmos rather than human inadequacy and the belief in salvation to be found in the individual. Any refutations of gnosticism based on literal interpretation of the new testament will be seriously flawed

@thenaturalpeoplesbureau 8 күн бұрын

Most forms of gnosticism are structurally identical with Vishnuism, the largest hinduist denomination of over 600mio ppl. So we have the supreme monad or one, Proarke (before creation, the father looking within), who in india is nirguna brahman or para vasudeva (for the shaivas, nishkala shiva). Then we have the four luminaries first created - these are the four vishnus or vyuhas, Vasudeva, sankarshana, pradyumna and aniruddha - if para is the absolute consciousness, the second vasudeva is feeling, sankarshana knowledge, pradyumna will and aniruddha is energy. Then out of the last of these, were created the 24 aeons, of which the first four, are a repetition of the four lights or vyuha (Armozel, Oroiael, Davethai and Eleleth). These are in india also named the same, in gnosticism these are called bythios (profundity), nous (spirit), logos (word) and anthropos(man). So the latter is the pneumatic anthropos or cosmic man. This is identical with the rik-vedic purusha, and aniruddha (uncontrollable) representing this being - in india, purusha or aniruddha, is the sumtotal of energy and all the observers or souls - it is this multiarmed form, which Krishna showed on the battlefield when the Gita was spoken. The other 20 aeons are recombinations of the divine attributes that the four primary aeons establish. Hence these are 24 aeons, just as the keshava namas mention 24 vyuhantaras of vishnu. Structurally 100% identical to the last detail. Hinduism views it similar to the valentinians that brahma is flawed but not necessarily evil, the purusha hymn says that god, vishnu, purusha, created the substratum of the world, the matrika, and within this was born cosmic intelligence (not spirit, that would be the first 2 aeons) which was called Brahma. The old purusha hymn was saying that basically purusha has three parts (the other three aeons or vishnus being inside him like matrioshkas) whereas this fourth part was dismembered by Brahma the demiurge, and turned him into the world and all of us. The three parts are immortal, and the fourth being born again and again (until a soul is liberated). Brahma, born of the navel of Vishnu, the spirit of god, did think himself to be the supreme creator, but the feminine counterpart of Logos/Pradyumna was sent to enlighten Brahma about Krishna being the supreme. Then Brahma could see the lotos of time on which he sat, and the gigantic form of maha vishnu laying on the waters of devastation. In india, only Shiva, Vishnu and the divine feminine, shakti, are worshipped. Brahma has only 1 single temple, and is seen as a lesser being who does not really have control over himself... His function is material creation, whereas Nous or Sankarshana (making rows, plowing, all-attraction) is the spiritual creator, and destroyer of the material world.

@urbanskylineproperties6070 6 күн бұрын

@@thenaturalpeoplesbureau respect 🙏

@straty6473 6 күн бұрын

Agreed, he’s lost in the woods on this one

@devarmont87 6 күн бұрын

Or maybe... All of you are correct! Maybe it's absurd to think there is only one truth. 😅 Maybe you are just one variation off all truths. The universe in my opinion is like a Mandelbrot, forever ongoing and without defining. And part of this structure is that anything can be true. Just not permanent!! Because a ever growing changing Mandelbrot (universe) cannot stay the same for eternity. by the very existence of energy, it must change. So your version of gnosticism and aarons can hold place to be true somewhere and somehow. And I will not accept your rebuttal if it is only one sided and narrow minded

@kevinlogan6171 6 күн бұрын

@ Great explanation. Where does evil come from in the vishnuite point of view ?

@anthonycapitan5802 10 күн бұрын

Best, most eloquently formulated talk I've heard from you. Wonderful summation of a transformative teaching.

@bsharpblues 8 күн бұрын

Aaron has done a very poorly researched exposition of gnosticism, and hence this refutation is poor. Gnosticism is so diverse and encompasses so many concepts that what is presented here is small part of the whole. Gnosticism without christian influences exists and predates Christ, Mandaeism is ancient and no one really knows how far back it goes. As to the 3 pillars - 1. True Gnosticism is non dual, see Apocryphon of John. 2. Secret knowledge is not the best intepretation of gnosis - it would be more accurate to call it "knowing the truth behind the scenes". 3. Re divine sparks being trapped, u either believe it or not. There is evidence of a soul trap mechanism in place, there are presenters presenting evidence and data and questioning things like spiritual experiences, ndes and other conspiracy theories. Doesnt mean it isnt correct as well.

@HBWP-r3t 10 күн бұрын

Sorry Aaron, but you missed it big time on Gnosticism. Gnostic is hidden knowledge, not crazy beliefs. Religion and atheism are beliefs. Revelation will be coming soon, so hang in there.

@AaronAbke 9 күн бұрын

All of these pillars are taken directly from the Gnostic gospels my friend. The Gospel of Judas, the Apocryphon of John, Gospel of Mary, the Treatise of Seth, the Origin of the World, the Gospel of Peter, the Apocalypse of Peter, etc. As I said, there’s definitely some good stuff in Nag Hammadi. But it is the exception not the rule. Saying what is true is never “divisive”, but always liberating. Blessings 🙏🏼

@HBWP-r3t 9 күн бұрын

I've have studied the Nag Hammadi library. You focused more on Marcion. You made it look like Nag Hammadi and the Gospel of Mary were the same, and it's not. The truth is there were lots of beliefs about Yeshua. Everything not Ortodox Christianity got labeled heresy. Doesn't mean it's all the same. You did miss it. Look again.

@stephKoch1111 10 күн бұрын

I highly recommend joining 4DU I’m in his LTC course. It’s a daily devotion/ lessons and it’s life changing 🙏🏻🕊️

@duketinntinn8498 10 күн бұрын

The vast vast majority of Christians follow the law of Moses. They also threaten hell. Call o t o h taught the New covenant of Christ and him crucified. Get a strong concordance and look these things up for yourself. Look at the word hell and you will find out that Paul never uses it. not once not ever. I've been accused of being a gnostic myself by carnal Christians. Jesus was tortured while in a physical body. He is not in a physical body anymore however. You cannot physically follow him so you must be led by his spirit. The holy spirit is a spirit that will lead you into all truth it's not a third person of a trinity. Call is our connection for understanding that our spirituality came through jesus's suffering in the flesh.

@KatTee-o6o 9 күн бұрын

Me too! I am so appreciative the ACIM course exists and once im finished the it next January, im going to join the 4DU graduate program!

@SarahBeth-pf7ml 3 күн бұрын

HE'S PLAYING YOU ALL FOR STUPID! RESEARCH FOR YOURSELVES WHAT HE SAYS AND YOU WILL SEE HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT

@SharonOgle-hr7wr 10 күн бұрын

This will set minds & hearts free!!! Incredibly Divine, brother❤

@JakeMilhall 9 күн бұрын

I actually will take back what I said last time, Aaron. I was basically saying your efforts would only benefit nonchristians and your efforts would be wasted on christians because most of them would just double down on what they were taught to believe, but if you keep dropping bombs like this, it makes it much easier for them to see the truth of their beliefs and make the switch from the fear mongering doctrine of believe the right thing or go to hell to true Christianity much easier. You're doing much needed work, so thank you. We all deserve to know the real good news, which allows us to embody it.

@Anarchy_NZ 10 күн бұрын

You need to keep researching Gnosticism it's no Dogmatic as you portray it as. John the Baptist is the Father of Gnostic Christianity not Paul. It's not a religion it came out of the Jewish Mystery Schools. The Gnostic Creation Story is in complete alignment with Jesus's Creation Story in the Book "A Course in Miracles". Early Gnosticism is Non-Dualistic. It later become Dogmatic and by the time the Cathars emerged in the 17th Century and became a Dualistic religion. Early Gnostics did believe that the physical universe or matter was a mistake however it is not seen as sinful and deserving of punishment. They believed this mistake allowed the possibility for the journey of the mystical accent back to heaven or the metaphysical world. Some believed there was some divine higher purpose to the creation of physical universe but regardless it is not the real world. There is no duality because the physical universe is not real as also stated in ACIM. The metaphysical universe is One and the physical universe is a result of "the tiny mad idea" which is the belief in separation. Pistis Sophia basically explains this process of spirits decent into matter in a metaphorical sense where as ACIM does not go into detail as it is kind of irrelevant now. The fact is we are here now and if we follow Christ's path we can accened into the spiritual realm from where we came and belong. The Father and Son are not one but also not two. It'd hard for the mortal mind to understand the relationship between Creator and Creation but as Jesus states in ACIM the physical world was made because a part of the Sonship tried to usurp the Father's right to first cause. First Cause did not happen in time but by denying God as First Cause time was born not in truth but in illusion. The moral of the story is that if you deny God you deny your own identity.

@HighLife37 10 күн бұрын

I'm not so sure you have an accurate understanding of gnosticism I've only just started watching but gnosis is another word for knowledge?

@zoranahealing22 5 күн бұрын

Yes I though gnosis is knowing thyself which I thought was the point

@Elburion 9 күн бұрын

In my early 20s I was given a powerful vision of a Being "swimming" up to me from complete darkness. It had the face of a male lion, the body of a snake, and it's eyes looked like a storm of lightning. I did not know what this Being was until years later when I read about the Demiurge, I also found it mentioned in the Bible in Proverbs 91:13 as the Lion-Snake. I'm not saying everything about Gnosticism is correct, but that Spirit called the Demiurge, is definitely real.

@mikevickilovedogs 10 күн бұрын

Going to ruffle a lot of feathers with this one. I don’t get attached to many paradigms, so I am all in for this video. A lot of gnosticism is appealing to me, so I am excited to watch and see what beliefs get challenged.

@editorjeannie2318 10 күн бұрын

same

@jhenyalovering41 10 күн бұрын

Yes, all deceptive people mix lies with Truth to make it more enticing.

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

That's the winning attitude my friend 👏

@meechipeachi 10 күн бұрын

I'm curious what you experienced from video. I only watched first few minutes bcuz, for me, it is just a disagreement of definition.

@mikevickilovedogs 10 күн бұрын

@@meechipeachihow so?

@torisimon7468 6 күн бұрын

God speaks and shows us all The Way, the Truth and the Life by going within and being still before God. We raise our consciousness from within ourselves.

@nearwildheaven33 8 күн бұрын

I really appreciate this. When I started my journey I looked into the Gnostics because a lot of people in the spiritual community said to start there. The framework of the Gnostics felt it was based in fear and didn’t sit 100% with me. They felt like the conspiracy theorists of the 1st century and although they may be right in some aspects, it felt manic. I’ve since then just learned to listen to things based in love, that had some connections to other teachings in history for the bigger picture, and to use discernment and keep an open mind ❤

@mariavoyiatsis1677 9 күн бұрын

Any organisation representing religion is corrupt to manipulate. Gnosticism is just knowing thyself. Its not taking on a label that wishes to be reached, for the majority of those choosing the label of Christians are far from following the teachings. What it is, is common sense

@mariavoyiatsis1677 9 күн бұрын

Also the exact origin of gnosticism is unknown. Look it up. As always, individuals take a concept that forever existed and make it their own. Like I said, common sense

@ndc944 9 күн бұрын

I agree with you, "Knowledge through direct experience."

@shirleyhudson-reid6095 5 күн бұрын

Finally, this is what I've been hoping to come across. Everything you say, I completely resonate with. If only more people can know this truth. I knew all this in my heart. I grew up a Christian but turned away from religion more than a decade ago because I was fed up with the fear monger, judgement, lies etc. God of this universe is only unconditional Love. And hell is no place for his children. People need to realise this ❤

@melissaelliott325 9 күн бұрын

Love your content Aaron - but I will say that you have some misunderstandings about Gnosticism. If you delve into study on the various paths that come from Gnosticism and later Rosacrutianism , anthroposophy and many other mystical Christian paths you will find much deeper understandings of terms such as “gnosis”, “demiurge”, “Sophia”, etc. A big thing to understand is what may be referred to now as spiritual archetypes. Many ppl take old stories/teachings/writings literally but it is more useful to use them as archetypes of spiritual awakening. For example, saying we have a divine spark of god trapped inside our body may not attempt express that your body is evil (ie the world/physical is bad). It can be an archetypal picture whereas the physical body is a symbol of the materialistic pull of the flesh that can block our connection to our innate spirit.

@KevinPilsbury 8 күн бұрын

Growing up Catholic, i never understood the crucifixion and how that related to my salvation. It never made sense. Only when i got older and i realized that his dying for his teachings was the embodiment of his highest teaching, that's when i realized that his death was salvation. Not through abstract ideas 'i did it for you', but through demonstration 'I showed you the way, do as i do'.

@rangerpartners1971 7 күн бұрын

No loving God would create a construct that requires sentient beings to chase down & kill - or eat alive - another sentient being for sustenance, not to mention the incredible man's inhumanity to man. This material world is the product of something else. You can believe this horror is "beautiful nature" all you want. That is a protective delusion.

@Dodgerzden Күн бұрын

I'm glad to see someone saying what I've been saying. Would a benevolent and all powerful god create a dystopian realm where every single creature depends on the death of another living thing to sustain itself and continue to survive? The only reason I can see this kind of world being created by a loving god is for entertainment and adventurous purposes so that we can escape boredom and then wake up and realize it was all a game.

@Eliminton 10 күн бұрын

Can't wait to see your debate with Wess Huff!

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

I am very excited for it to drop! 🙌🏼

@iTzSnowman 10 күн бұрын

Any idea of when it’s gonna drop?

@TUFELEY 10 күн бұрын

@AaronAbke I'm curious to see how a debate goes with someone who seems to be on a lower SQ level. I struggle to communicate my findings to my christian family who believe we are all sinners and it is impossible to forgive and love your neighbour like Jesus asked us to. I have admittedly given up and decided to focus on my own journey. These debates were becoming food for my ego. I trust you've found ways to keep your ego out of it Aaron

@hannahb2383 7 күн бұрын

Whaaaaaatt?!?! He's debating Wes Huff?! We just hit the jackpot hahaha 👌💯 can't wait to watch!

@NicoleWellness 10 күн бұрын

This is so good. I really appreciate you going over this and breaking it down! I’m not well versed in Gnosticism but I had thought it was the “better” version. You nailed it! It’s too bad Christians will never be able to hear a message such as this.

@AdrielRich 10 күн бұрын

I grew up with dispensationalism and it really screwed me up. After a while you get used to separating things and putting things in boxes etc...until the way you think is so distorted it can be hard to come out of. Experiencing love on a really deep level started the process of redemption for me. I'm thankful for people like Aaron for being more than just a storehouse of knowledge but of love as well.

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

I know exactly what you mean

@casieweekes9461 6 күн бұрын

You have it completely backyards!!! Gnosticism is what is going to bring heaven down to earth!!!

@jomama81ranch8 6 күн бұрын

First.... do you want to learn about what Jesus desires from a podcast that displays Buddah PROMINANTLY on their podcast set? Talk about a RED flag!?!?!? These guys are trying to mix Buddah with Jesus!! They are clearly antichrist! -- (103.8)--- They are denying the resurrection of Jesus Christ!???? They deny hell! This is a false doctrine what this Aaron Abke is "teaching"!--- If you want to know if our Bible today, is REAL and stands up to snuff.... find out how close it comes to the original texts, of which there are hundreds going back to the septuigent, which the Dead Sea Scrolls confirmed. But even more than that.... do the books in the Bible, especially the ones that are being disparaged in this video by Aaron Abke.... have God's "signature" on them?? --- If you truly want to find out... which I doubt you do, you will go and watch Brandon Peterson's videos (Truth Is Christ channel) about what was discovered in the best selling version of all time... the King James Version! The most sold version still today, and once you see HOW God put His own hand on this version... in ENGLISH, not in the original Hebrew or Greek.... it will blow your mind, guaranteed! It will prove to any person, without a shadow of the doubt, that man could NOT have written this version of the Bible, but that God's Hand was on it to preserve His Word.. for this generation alive today! It is totally false what Aaron is saying.......Paul wrote most of the New Testament and he DID meet Jesus personally which is a requirement to being an apostle.....evident in the book of Acts. He was Saul... who used to persecute the Jews, before God had an encounter with him and changed his life! He had been one of the Pharasees who had followed Jesus and rebuked him, even taking part of the death of Stephen in Acts 7: 58! So yes, Saul, later referred as Paul... except where he was meeting with Jewish persons in some cases.... so they would accept him as a JEW, had been one of the Pharasee's that had previously rebuked Jesus.... hence, Peter and some didn't trust him at first. But Paul DID meet and know Jesus! Just because he wasn't a follower of Jesus from the beginning, he had met Jesus personally and heard His teachings. As I listened to Aaron give his take on how the books written by Paul in the New Testament, and his take on "salvation", I could see easily how he could make the statement that "This is why all the younger generation is leaving the Christian church and don't want to be with the older persons" ..... apparently the "mis-led crowd", according to Aaron Abke. (151.12)-Aaron says the first STEP-- one must repent because the kingdom of heaven is RIGHT NOW. (at hand)... and you are already in the kingdom. What does repent mean? Repent means a change of mind about Who Jesus is! Aaron says the next STEP is obedience. Only if you obey the commandments... will you STAY saved! -- Really??? What if you can't keep all the commandments, are you then unsaved again? How well do you have to keep them... in order to stay saved? What if you lie? "Yes honey.... you look skinny in that outfit." What if you see an attractive person other than your spouse and have a lapse of fantasy about them... you didn't keep the commandment about adultry! Are you still saved? Jesus says if you break one commandment then you break them all. Aaron says the third STEP is service to others. (Aaron believes in a "works gospel"... that you do one, two and three.... and you remain saved. A person can't work enough... to be good enough to enter the kingdom of heaven. Good luck with that! Yeah sure.... my husband and I left a BIG church for teaching this false doctrine above. They were removing adult Sunday school classes because they wanted those adults to "serve" somewhere in the church instead of sitting in a class studying God's Word. Even though my husband and I were VERY active in the church and serving already, that wasn't good enough. We couldn't even meet with our class on church property on Sunday morning to continue studying the Bible! But this church was really growing and getting bigger. --- Let me tell you something, a big church doesn't mean you are doing God's will. In many cases it is a feel good, we are always GOOD because we don't speak about scary things like hell, or tithing, or that stuff... we want you to leave happy.... on your way to hell for etenity!--- That is exactly where we saw this church leading it's people and we wanted no part of it! The true gospel: ----God KNOWS everything! God foreknew of every single person who would ever exist, before He created Adam in the garden. God foreknew of each individual sin, that each one of those persons would commit... in their lifetime, before He created Adam! God the Father, put all of those sins on the cross, and when Jesus (God in the flesh), shed His blood, He paid in full for every sin the Father had put on the cross. That's right! Every person today has had THEIR sins already paid in full for almost 2000 years! -- But God gave man the "gift of choice", so that they could choose for themselves, if they wanted to come to Him.... to confess that they are a sinner and are in need of a Savior! -- Most will reject Him and what He did... and at the moment of death, will find themselves in hell for eternity. When you recognize that the Bible is God's true Word, and that Jesus... was God in the flesh, Who came down to earth to live among His own creation, and willingly went to the cross to die in order to pay the penelty for every sin ever committed by mankind... past, present, future! (Remember, we today were born future to the cross, so our sins had to be put on that cross too.) -- Then Jesus rose again on the third day, showing that we too will rise again after death. When you realize that Jesus paid in full for your lifetime of sins, and you "repent" or "have a complete change of mind" about Who Jesus is... at that moment, you are SAVED! -- Jesus tells us in John 3:16 that God sent His Own Son into the world, that whosoever believeth on Him will not perish, but have everlasting life! -- So salvation is based ON "belief alone"!!! 1 John 1:9 -- If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness! At the moment of your salvation, our lifetime of sins that were charged to our soul.... is thrown as far as the East is from the West, and the Holy Spirit becomes "one flesh" with our soul from that point on. When we die.... we are immediately present with the Lord. Will we still sin? Absolutely, because we still live in our earthly body in a fallen world. But God no longer sees that sin, all He sees from that moment on is that blood covering. We need to ask for forgiveness when we recognize our sin.... not to stay saved, but to remain in fellowship without guilt. If we are guilty of sin... how likely are we to share the gospel with others, which is our job on earth? Not very likely if we feel God is disappointed in us, right? It might affect our fellowship.... just like a friend might be mad at us until we tell them we are sorry.....but our "relationship" will NEVER change again! The true gospel is much easier than what Aaron is "preaching".

@Jez166 10 күн бұрын

I've got to say, as someone raised in the Protestant church and never really bought into that philosophy, I fell into the trappings of Gnosticism for a short time because I was working with the frame of reference that only a vengeful and evil or even imperfect God would do all these things to his creations. You were absolutely correct about the trauma part for many former "believers". It was something I've spent decades trying to overcome. It never fully resonated with my personal beliefs around Christ and the nature of God and reality because it was just too dismal and complex to be true in my mind. I have always, however, whether consciously or subconsciously, felt a true resonance with the law of one and the teaching's of Jesus. I've never understood how most Christians can proclaim that title while professing any set of beliefs other than those that Christ said himself. Loved this lecture. Thank you

@tcdiamond70 9 күн бұрын

But do you understand that you do not have to believe in all of the gnostic text and still be a gnostic? Gnosis is direct knowing from experience… which is not the same for everybody… I personally do not believe in many of the ancient gnostic texts but I still consider myself to be a gnostic

@thewrightprinze 10 күн бұрын

Amen! Brother Aaron, on my spiritual I thought I was Gnostic. But now I consider myself a Buddhist Essene now and after rereading the Bible (mostly the red letters of our Master; Yeshua 😊) I see that Jesus didn't see the world as evil but can be either your Heaven or your Hell and that you have to tap into Christ within, just as Yeshua did. I now call Jesus Lord because I want to and not because I’m forced to (or I’ll burn in a literal place called Hell. Aaron, I truly believe you are fully tapped into the Christ Frequency and that you are our Lord/teacher and we’re your disciples. Another great video bro. God bless you ☮️☸️

@prairievintage 9 күн бұрын

Total agree as this is my experience too. Bless you🙏☀️

@theologicaldarkweb2695 9 күн бұрын

I completely agree with you that Penal Substitution Theory and other sacred doctrines of modern Christianity are examples of Gnosticism. Most of these sacred doctrines are just word salads. The claim is these nonsense phrases like "Jesus paid your penalty" are "divine mysteries" that require "acceptance by faith." Somehow believing nonsense phrases guarantees entrance into heaven. The is complete insanity.

@freesparrowsomeday 20 сағат бұрын

What is changing my entire perspective is reading the Urantia Book. It validates so much of what you are saying.

@atilathesonofdanubius4277 10 күн бұрын

Totally agree. I'm interested in the sentence where Marcion claims, "Paul was selected by Christ to deliver the message of salvation to the Gentiles." This sentence tells me why Christianity heavily influenced by the Romans changed their salvation story. They did so the gentiles could more easily accept Christianity. It was much easier to follow commandments and accept the resurrection than to follow commandments and sell your possessions and giveth to the poor. It seems that Marcion was also sold to the highest bidder as Paul.

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

Well said. Marcion made an indelible impact on the doctrines of the Orthodox Church, as many of them were adapted to combat Marcionism. What you fight, you strengthen. What you hate, you become. The spirit of the great heretics Paul and Marcion are alive and well in the heart of the Orthodox Church.

@theresefournier3269 10 күн бұрын

Nothing much new under the sun, is there? @@AaronAbkeThe more i think, reflect, recall, from all of the things that i even question as a child, the more it appears Constantine himself had that same spirit... accomplishing the desired outcome of both satisfying and controlling the masses. It is what it is and when we know, we know. Otherwise, what we still insist on be-LIE-ving that which wee always did, is most certainly, a huge destructive LIE. From which, if we wish to live, must literally die to, giving birth to a new and gorgeous creation. Here. Now. Wow❤

@Itsme-x5i 9 күн бұрын

You're a deceiver just like Wes, no better and no worse. You speak with condescension and arrogance, soft straw men everywhere. You didn't explain these topics accurately at all. It's gross that this is what is mainstream talk now.

@rangerpartners1971 7 күн бұрын

Fear, pleasure & separation are the coins of the realm of the god of this world. Love, wisdom & oneness are the coins of the realm of the Great Spirit.

@waymiller 9 күн бұрын

The Gospel of Thomas and Gospel of Truth are my favorites too. With content as clear and all encompassing as ACIM and The Way of Mastery we are beyond fortunate this day and age!

@jordanhintze1881 9 күн бұрын

A million times Amen brother! As someone who grew up Mormon and was told it was the restored gospel of Christ, and who later left the church because it wasn’t, my soul recognizes what you teach as the real restored gospel of Christ, and recognizes you as a true servant of God. You’re a light and a blessing to me Aaron!

@jomama81ranch8 6 күн бұрын

@katiehorneshaw995 10 күн бұрын

Adam, I ask this in a genuine spirit of wanting to understand as I believe your insights to be approaching the most sober I've encountered, particularly when it comes to hairy topics like the fixation with the so-called Gnostic gospels representing Jesus' true word. My question: How do you know what Jesus truly taught? You do an incredible job of dismantling the arguments used to claim Paul as an authority on the subject: he never met Jesus and he has very clear agendas. This we know for sure, given we have his very words (as far as we will ever know anyway) I also agree that there is the whole Christ sacrafice for our sins narrtive appears to have been superimposed onto, or edited into, the first century texts. These are refreshingly sober readings. They are open eyed and rare. But then you yourself seem to have your own narrative- that Jesus refered to the law of one- this would be wonderful! But i fear you are doing the same thing you critique in others, by joining dots that have never been explicitly joined in order to make the Christ you want to believe in. Correct me if im wrong- I hope I am! But there is absolutely no evidence of Jesus referencing the Law of One as it has come to be understood, through Ra and other chanellings. Nor does he explicitly site to the more general "idea" of the Law of One, which would simply state that ultimately we are all one being bound by love. The law Jesus upholds in the canonical gospels is explicitly referenced as the Old Testament Hebrew law of Moses, and these commandments differ immensly from the Law of One! To casually bind them together as comensurate with one another is, I'm sorry, but it's absurd. I try to figure out where your arguments are to explain this casual oversight but so far I havent found any. So that leaves me with no other option than to disregard your insights, because if they rest on the concept that Christ refered to the LOO when he was quoted as refering to the OT, that is just another convenience to justify just another wishful view of Jesus. I dont think I have to list all of the massive differences between the Mosaic and LOO, I'm sure you are aware of how archaic and brutal the OT law is. Jesus is quoted as saying all sorts of things in the canon gospel, he appears as a highly contradictory character. But if we are to accept them as his word, we would have to accept he made very clear he would not change a single letter of the Mosaic law. Personally I have no idea if he said that! I have no idea why the canon turned up decades/centuries after the deaths of its apparent authors. I dont know why we all accept the canon as infallible and in your case, the true word in opposition to Paul's agenda, when the canon itself was written by impersonators trying to "remember" quotes passed down in chinese whispers for decades! And i dont know why we are supposed to accept a small selection of what these people said in these scraps as His true word, especially after passing through the Roman council. And Im confused what your argument is for taking this already insanely unreliable source and further editorialising. I really like your critical work specifically because its a break from the insane distaste for logic and fact displayed by every take on Jesus ever. But why do you then dive into your own trap headfirst? I want you to be all the way logical so i can relax and just listen to someone without having to crosscheck and question everything! I would like to ACTUALLY know Jesus. But unless i believe in the accuracy of my own dreams, I don't see how that's possible. So what we are left with is faith, yes? I believe we can have faith in the fundamental intuitive principles that reveal themselves as obvious to any true seeker of light- in the primacy of love and the eternal oness. I accept these truths as self evident because i see them pulsing through life itself, everuwhere. But i dont think its reasonable to stretch faith to the point of substantiating a very specific set of quotes and concepts to a very specific man very long ago. I don't think thats what faith is meant for and i dont believe reality works to reify highly specific concepts at all, so i don't believe true faith will ever lead to specifics. I can have absolute faith in the LOO, but I can't claim my faith is enough to reveal history's specific truths to me anout the faith of a man i never met. So you tell me, what else is there to tell us anything certain about Jesus words?

@theresefournier3269 10 күн бұрын

Thank you for being you! To begin with, his name certainly wasn't "Jesus"! The letter "J", didn't exist a thousand years ago and still doesn't in "Greek" , let alone "Aramaic"! P. S. You sound like the friend i have been dreaming of knowing on this eart-h, with all my h-eart, yes. ❤

@vanessasworder 9 күн бұрын

It’s a shame he did not respond to you …..you put a lot of time and effort into what you wrote above….

@subscrieber2692 9 күн бұрын

I appreciate your comment and pray you receive insight imo gnosis (as in knowledge coming from a direct relationship with the divine) is the easiest path to a relationship with god however no two lotus flower's roots grow the same way such is everyone's path (unalome) that's just my comment thank you for your thoughts I found it more enriching than the video 🙏

@justinhart2831 9 күн бұрын

Great points. I've had very similar questions about this channel since finding it

@theresefournier3269 9 күн бұрын

@@justinhart2831 We're no alone, are we? that now want to make sure of all things! And considering all things, that's in-DEED a good thing to do.

@matthewson1000 14 сағат бұрын

I wish you would’ve spoken these words in part two of the last debate!! But I know! You were being very cordial as not to offend the others. Love you brother.

@Anders01 10 күн бұрын

As you pointed out: "your kingdom come, your will be done, ON EARTH as it is in heaven." Many people seem to just mechanically repeat the Lord's Prayer. The key as I see it is what I think you implied, it's ultimately about moving from third to fourth density on earth, not about moving to some heavenly sphere or something like that.

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

Perfectly said!

@justinsellers1327 10 күн бұрын

50:15 - Calling it a trauma that needs healed is so apropos! I may have literally dissociated from my entire childhood with almost no memory of it because this is what I was greeted with as a child.

@badmotorbreath5206 9 күн бұрын

Thank you, Aaron. I seek to align my heart and mind to my spirit that truly knows, “no need to ask for forgiveness my friend, as there is nothing to forgive”

@rangerpartners1971 7 күн бұрын

We are all immortal, indestructible, frequencial, co-creating fractals of the Great Spirit. Here, we inhabit temporary carnal avatars "on lease" from & owned by the construct.

@thewaythetruthandthelife6818 7 күн бұрын

I respect what you do, but it is obvious that you don’t fully understand the gnostic gospels. Which is ok and understandable. There is a lack of understanding as to what John was saying in the Apocryphon of John is the most difficult to understand, but I remember what it is that was being expressed in the first portion of the book, which is the story of the first inhabotprs of this universe and their self destructive fall into the self destructive material state. It clearly states that the way up is based on the way we came down. The truth of the gospels is to allow you to recognize your co-creative aspect, that there illusions or “power” in place that have distorted the consciousness of the beings inhabiting this universe and creating a wedge between them and the awareness of their true nature.

@bonganikato3016 10 күн бұрын

Self appeasement simply won't work. If you have desires just say Gnosticism just seems to be getting in your way. This is the truth.

@OISaviour 10 күн бұрын

"LOVE GOD!" " LOVE NEIGHBOR!" That's the same thing for me! WOO! HOO!

@meechipeachi 10 күн бұрын

Abso-fruit-ly❤

@rolfskytte 10 күн бұрын

Hold up human! :) Love's essential, it's important to you, that's great! But the Kingdom of Heaven comes THROUGH faith in Jesus, not just our ability to love. It’s not that love isn’t important ~ it’s that we can’t rely on our own strength to love Perfectly. True faith in God is rooted in the resurrection, which assures us of HIS power over death and motivates us to grow in love, following Jesus' example of self~sacrifice, and loving and living without the fear of losing everything. Do ya see why God wants us to have faith in Him, instead of just relying on our own efforts? Best wishes, not trying to hurt anyone.

@rolfskytte 10 күн бұрын

PS: Truth without Love is brutality. But Love without Truth is hypocrisy.

@MelissaBozinovski 10 күн бұрын

Thank you Aaron! You really have found your purpose! 🙏 Such an awesome display of critical thinking but bringing it back to the core of Jesus’s teachings. I love it! 🥰

@MegaEliana29 10 күн бұрын

Aaron we love your teachings! Thank you for sharing them with us! We love you!

@ty_d_al 10 күн бұрын

I would like to say that as a practicing Roman Catholic that there are deep, deep, spiritual truths and a wonderful message of salvation by a loving God within the teachings of Catholicism. The sacraments are a way of direct communion with Jesus in this physical plane. I love your teachings Aaron. My whole life has been reconciling Catholic teachings with metaphysical truths and finding the common ground between the two. It may be the best exercise in nonjudgement that exists lol

@garytorresani8846 8 күн бұрын

Read the Catholic mystics. They understood the reality of our union with the divine. Start with Teresa of Avila. Mystics of all faiths know that Jesus was in fact a Jewish mystic.

@ebionitemystic 10 күн бұрын

Yes, a lot of people confuse christian mysticism with gnosticism even though they're very different. And a lot of people think that the Gospel of Thomas is a gnostic text, but it was written before gnosticism was a real movement. The original Christians were known as the Nazarenes/Ebionites. I'm convinced that the Gospel of Thomas is an early Ebionite Jewish-Christian text. We could say that it's a text from the tradition of "Ebionite Mysticism." The Ebionites, led by James, possessed the original, authentic teachings of Yeshua before the Pauline branches (Orthodox church and Gnosticism) distorted the teachings of Yeshua. Great stuff as always Aaron! 🙏🏻

@StephanieE-hn2iw 10 күн бұрын

I feel the peace of God when I hear your talks Aaron. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for bringing these truths to us!! 🙏❤️

@crazyc99 10 күн бұрын

Thank you Aaron, I grew up in the church and bible studies just like you and I've had a few awakening experiences and none of that dogma resonates anymore on any level under any circumstances EXCEPT when the old fear kicks in and I feel ohh crap I'm going the wrong way ... then I have to remind myself and keep walking the walk etc... thanks for being a good reminder of the truth, and once one knows/sees the truth, one is in fact set free indeed !

@JudyJean-j2 10 күн бұрын

I thought this was going to be good but, I am disappointed because he makes assertions based on his opinion only and with a tone of authority but he does the same thing others in defense of whatever opinion do. And he doesn't really support his claims, just asserts them.

@Dean12346 6 күн бұрын

You can’t know what it feels like to fall down if you’ve never fallen down. I think we have differing opinions of what it means to perform works🙏🏽

@nik.olas328 10 күн бұрын

YESSSSSS!!!! I’m so glad you’re clearing up the confusion around Gnosticism. Your talk on 4DU about this topic on Sunday cleared up ALL the inconsistencies I had around WHAT Gnosticism is in relation to Truth, to the Jesus Way 🙏 blessings!!

@DadGotU 10 күн бұрын

This one’s a zinger bro!!! I’m excited for you and Wes to have your chat ❤

@mikipope5140 10 күн бұрын

I cannot believe you have gone there Aaron!! I cannot believe that u actually think that Marcion is a gnostic! Let alone the father of it! This is crazy and distorted stuff. Virtually no one in the 2nd century of note thought he was gnostic other than his enemies! Crazy stuff you going down this route!! Crazy!

@ceedee873 9 күн бұрын

He's just scratching those itching ears, the bible warned us about characters like these.

@SarahBeth-pf7ml 2 күн бұрын

@@ceedee873Well said.

@fasted8468 10 күн бұрын

The hardest part about refuting Paul is knowing where to start. If you look for 5 minutes with an open mind its obvious. But a closed mind can deny it dor years its insane

@V1LL1N 8 күн бұрын

It's 'a-paul-ing' how much it has frayed from the truth, this is so very well done!

@SUPERNOVA-333 8 күн бұрын

I too went back to reading the red letters only. It changed my whole perspective to following Christ consciousness.

@Amanda.E.Seibel 10 күн бұрын

What's so exciting Aaron is that Truth is one of the Universal Laws of the Universe. If what you are teaching is true, it will naturally and organically reach a critical mass. Hope I live to see it resonate with some powerful pastors around the world and become "mainstream." That would be EPIC 💚🙏🌎🙏💚

@jhenyalovering41 10 күн бұрын

Yes! Also makes sense how many intelligent people have rejected the false God that has been presented to us. But the real God/Jesus is the Truth that sets us FREE for eternity.

@jeanlundi2141 10 күн бұрын

That makes no sense. Truth rarely resonates on a collective level. Plus, this guys talks too much about "God" positioning himself as an authroirty on the subject. If we are talking about the same God.....he is no more involved with this line of reasoning than he was with the Quran or Bible etc. God doesn't care about any of this.

@christiandurocher23 10 күн бұрын

I'm ok with the fact that Dualism is not good. But i don't think that every gnostic movement is dualist. You need humility and knowledge to be conscious about your ego, otherwise you are a slave of it. Without knowledge you are blind. I understand why some people deny gnosticism because of the dualism. But i think you need some knowledge to see god. i also think it is the purpose of life on earth. Acquire some knowledge and experiences to achieve a certain level of wisdom. The main reason why our society is so corrupted is because the mass is dumb. The authority keep the knowledge to keep the power. They keep the knowledge to serve their ego.

@thenaturalpeoplesbureau 8 күн бұрын

Monad means one without a second, hence nondualism is integer to gnosticism. As is dualism. And trinitarianism and tetrapolarity. For the first four lights and aeons are the primary shapers in gnosis. Bythios, Nous, Logos and Anthropos being these four primary aeons. I am a hinduist personally, but i find it absolutely ridiculous that the christians, at least 98%, are still anti gnostic, and cling to the BS that the three primary churches teach. In my view they are all deluded. The father deity of jesus, was never Jahweh - in christianity his name was kyrios, but the freemasonic movement deleted Kyrios from the texts and replaced him with the jewish deity Jahweh, who most likely is the enemy of jesus christ. Almost all hinduists have accepted Jesus as a form of krishna, so maybe thomas DID a better job than Paul, who knows? Why are there no bibles where the gospels of Mary of Magdala, Thomas and Philipp were not included? Would make more sense to me than to cling to the Tora. The freemasons or elites are kinda antignostic - this is again propaganda - they worship the architect or Brahma/Yahweh/El/Kronos. The masons are not gnostic, nor are the OTO Golden Dawn etc. The OTO is primarily egyptian as is the Golden Dawn. And masonry, well, judaism for the goys. Its all phoenician phoney kabbalah.. There is so much insincerity in the entire discussion, but your points seem to shine here. Christianity is as dualistic as gnosis, so i dont understand that one arguement - world evil god good.

@drgordo112 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for the content. I’ve been studying Gnosticism and it’s good to hear contrasting ideas.

@TheNaturalSelfCoaching 9 күн бұрын

Gnosis isn't a belief system like you assert. Gnosis is knowledge. Direct experience with divinity. It transcends religion and ideology. We are separate from God because of our current condition and identification with the ego. The gnostic texts that you are refuting are based on psychological allegories that teach people how to align with our true nature, which is to be one with divinity. A literalist, belief-oriented interpretation of them is wrong. Jesus was a gnostic master who taught us how to achieve gnosis. The Essenes who Jesus came out of were great gnostics. The story of his life was written as a myth, as were all the ancient spiritual teaching of the day. The story of Jesus parallels many ancient pagan/gnostic myths such as Marduk, Mythra, Osiris, Horus, Zoroaster, Dionysus, Attis, etc. A baby, born of a virgin in a cave during the winter solstice who achieves immortality by dying and resurrecting on the third day. It's a story as old as civilization and it should not be taken literally, nor should the ideas of gnosticism. Gnosis is the roadmap to achieve mystical experience.

@melissaelliott325 9 күн бұрын

wish I saw your comment earlier before I took time to post something very similar to this comment lol . His explanation/understanding of gnosis/gnosticism is very minimal for reasons you clearly laid out.

@TheNaturalSelfCoaching 9 күн бұрын

@ agreed. It just shows how degenerated and misunderstood many of the ideas of Gnosticism and other religions have become. There are many people who claim to be gnostic that are really not at all. I see gnosis as an active, mystical and experiential devotion to whatever religion you practice. It’s actually compatible with all religions because it is the root of all world religions. Another thing that’s interesting to think about is that Paul was the teacher to the gentiles and says that he gives people “milk” rather than the “meat” of the teachings. What I think that means is that Jesus gave the meat of the teachings to the initiates (Jews) and says This is why I speak to them in parables: 'Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.' The teachings of Jesus were not simple, they’re only simple to those who don’t know the inner teachings. Paul taught the outer teachings to the gentiles (uninitiated). He’s not a villain who corrupted the teachings. He just met people where they were and fed them slowly just like any spiritual tradition

@pankstarrr6615 9 күн бұрын

So happy to see this on my feed, I considered myself gnostic for years now, but have been questioning many many aspects of it as of late. Thank you so much, this is exactly what i needed!

@AaronAbke 9 күн бұрын

Amazing! 🙌🏼

@torisimon7468 6 күн бұрын

Duality is good versus evil. We have a choice here on earth to choose what is good or to choose what is bad or evil. It’s as simple as that.😊

@Chief-Solarize 4 күн бұрын

Im glad i found your channel. We've arrived at the same conclusions on alot of stuff only im not teaching it like i should be. Much respect to you Aaron.

@AaronAbke 4 күн бұрын

Big love bro 🙏🏼❤️

@TheCjbowman 2 күн бұрын

Fantastic teachings, my friend. Such an important topic for modern day Christians to understand. 💕☀️✨

@kornelia8627 10 күн бұрын

Aaron means "Messenger" in arabic, did you know that? You are a good brother Aaron, yes, his messages are more than sufficient. Thank you! ❤

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

I did not!

@rolfskytte 10 күн бұрын

@@AaronAbke God says to not interpret the small things ourselves, such as our own name. Deuteronomy 18:10-12 Proverbs 3:5-6 My name means wolf, and I always identified with that because it is cool and old norse. Today I ask to be set free of my personal interpretation of things. It is a classic new age thing to do constantly.

@AngelLoveKing 7 күн бұрын

@@rolfskytte Names in the Bible are used to describe characteristics of the bearer. This avatar birth name means noble. ❤😊

@rolfskytte 7 күн бұрын

@@AngelLoveKing Yes, very true. I love to sit and look up meanings of names. Biblical names are amazing. My dog is called Rafael. There are many different approaches to finding the meaning of your own name - ways to divine it yourself. You might look at it historically, who had my name? When did it originate? Why? From where? You can look at it culturally and religiously. In the case of Rolf, it really was something like Hrólfr once, and in proto-germanic it was even quite unrecognizable. You can divine the meaning through many other ways; Numerology Astrology Gematria Scrying Channeling or Spirit Communication Tarot or Oracle Cards Runes Kabbalistic Interpretations Online libraries of unsorted name définitions... My point is, even if we are on a bad path in life, unknowingly, we might use the meaning of our name, which we divined subjectively, to gain strength and wind in our sails. That way we make things worse, we venture even further away from God, by gaining certainty through our own interpretations, which is our own wisdom. Which is not from God. We should always seek God's wisdom (the Bible and the Holy Spirit) and not seek signs to convince ourselves of our righteousness.

@justinrousse9611 7 күн бұрын

Dr. Ken Wapnick, in Love Does Not Condemn, connects the historical tension between Gnosticism and the early church to the principles of A Course in Miracles (ACIM), particularly focusing on themes of fear, love, and the illusory nature of the material world. ACIM asserts that the physical world is not real in an ultimate sense. It was not created by God but by the ego as a way to reinforce the illusion of separation from God. This idea aligns with the Course’s central teaching: “Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.”

@GnarlyDude12345 6 күн бұрын

Aaron, my introduction to your content was the Law of One series. I’ve been doing my best to learn all I can, about all of it, ever since. I want you to know that I first learned about the gnostic perspective a few months ago. It was thanks to your law of one teachings that I was able to quickly refute Gnosticism all on my own. I thought to myself: “this ideology is rooted in fear, therefore it cannot be true. This ideology is attempting to paint the architect of my reality as something I should hold hatred towards, rather than encouraging me to be grateful to have such a magnificent and complex hologram to explore and interact with over the course of my life.” So thank you, Aaron, for being the best teacher I’ve ever had in my life 🙏

@Theoramma 5 күн бұрын

My Grandma always used to send me to Sunday School when I was a young lad and the teacher always had a hard time with me. I'd ask questions like, "Why would God kill his son if he loved him?", "Why would the priest be able to forgive my sins if he sins too?", and "Why did God make dinosaurs and mammoths?" I would never take the stories at face value like I was supposed to. I've always found God away from all the "human" activity. Humans always want to explain away, what seems to me anyways, is what is so obvious. I'm not some damned being until I cry out for forgiveness to a man with a funky shirt and pointy hat. It's not in that man where the forgiveness lies. It's within yourself. Forgiving yourself is very hard to do. You must give it away freely because you're already forgiven. There are alot of ego trips to go on out there in the world. Sometimes we're on one and we don't know. When we catch ourselves on one of these rides, we only need to gently course correct and you will be just fine. The Force will be with you, always.

@jussayinnit 4 күн бұрын

The reason Jesus had to die is because of the law. He had to fulfill the law so that Israel could be free of the law. God didn't kill his son. 'I abide in him and he in me' Jesus was the earthly vessel that was able to allow God to indwell. Emmanuel. Jesus is God and God is Jesus. It had to be this way order for the divorced woman Israel to be redeemed. When God died, Israel became a widow. She was no longer under the law of her husband. It was then that Israel could be remarried into a new covenant with the risen God, Jesus. I'm sorry you had bead teachers. This is a problem everywhere. I hope this helps answer your first question.

@Theoramma 4 күн бұрын

@jussayinnit well, considering I asked that question 25 years ago, I'd say that answer has been a long time coming lol

@jussayinnit 4 күн бұрын

@@Theoramma could you have understood the answer 25 years ago? Do you understand it now?

@jussayinnit 4 күн бұрын

@Theoramma I disagree with the way churches go about teaching children. I don't really think that children who cant understand the answer should be taught the lesson. It should be a progression from the most basic, love God and love thy neighbor, to more advanced understanding that uses scripture. Just because you didn't get an answer in sunday school doesnt mean that the answer is unavailable. We are each responsible for our own study as adults. The text is available anywhere in the world.

@Theoramma 4 күн бұрын

@jussayinnit oh don't worry, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't trying to figure things out. I've done meditation, psychedelics, spirit journeys, etc. It's been a wild ride and I just try to take on whatever God puts infront of me as a learning experience.

@energeticpets 7 күн бұрын

No books buildings or doctrine are needed.. You are God you are the one you've been waiting for... ❤❤❤❤

@torisimon7468 6 күн бұрын

Awesome job, Aaron!🎉🎉🎉

@robertmitchell8630 10 күн бұрын

If you die before you die then when you die you shall never die again St Thomas

@theresefournier3269 10 күн бұрын

For all who choose life? It's the Way. The only way to go.

@justinhart2831 9 күн бұрын

"Die when you die, when you die you're gonna die." -- St. GG Allin

@SarahBeth-pf7ml 3 күн бұрын

I can't take anything this man says as serious because of how wrong he was about some huge facts (which literally took me 5 mins to fact check), in his video on love covered podcast. I mean major facts that made up his entire theological message in that video were so completely wrong. So wrong that I didn't make it through the first minute of this video.

@C_los74 10 күн бұрын

Great video 🙏🏾 Keep doing what you're doing, brother. God is perfect in all ways. We are all connected here to learn and grow from one another and with one another.

@DanielAirthNelson 10 күн бұрын

WOW Good Job sorting this out and making it so clear, you are a superb communicator.

@rangerpartners1971 7 күн бұрын

Have you ever considered that Paul is actually another name for Apollonius of Tyana - who ALSO was repurposed, redated & renamed, along with anecdotes from 3-4 others from both before & after the time of Jesus, by rabbinical scribes as the Jesus Christ we grew up with & revere? Apollonius was born 2 BC, was the most famous, highly documented healer & spiritual leader of the time attributed to Jesus, AND was renowned for telling his grateful healees that it was their own faith that healed them, not him. Sound familiar? There are NO legitimate contemporaneous writings, reports, memorial coins or paintings acknowledging the existence of the carnal Jesus Christ - & there would have been - until DECADES later. The Passion was an old Greek stage play in 3 acts preformed in an amphitheater LONG before 33 AD. None of this diminishes the spiritual teachings - the red-letter messages - attributed to Jesus. No leftover pagan blood-sacrifice ritual is necessary in our relationship with the Great Spirit. Our salvation is internal, not external. In that sense, the Gnostics get it right! Yahweh was a giant human (Anunna) sociopath POSING as a god to indigenous people...

@Dean12346 5 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏽

@GizmoFromPizmo 7 күн бұрын

Framing is everything and this video proves it. God doesn't want to rip your bones out because your a rotten sinner. Nobody teaches that. The reason you say this is due to your framing. You don't believe God's word is forever. That's why you characterize the wrath of God the way you do. God told Adam, "...in the day thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die." Did that mean that Adam would drop over dead? I mean, that's what Adam THOUGHT God meant by that but Eve was convinced that, no, you won't drop dead from eating. The kind of death God was talking about went deeper than a cessation of breathing. Disobedience to a direct commandment deserves punishment. The punishment assigned to this flavor of disobedience was death - a separation from God and His kingdom. When God says something, it MUST be carried out. And so, in order for God's universe to be in fact God's universe, His word had to mean something. Adam died that day. Fast forward to the Gospel of John, which says: John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. "The wrath of God abideth on him." In other words, Adam died and as a result, all his children, from then on, were born dead. God sent Jesus so that there could be a way to satisfy God's judgment, while opening the door to the resurrection of our dead selves. Jesus had to defeat death so that He could be raised from the dead. God's judgment is still in effect. Jesus did not remove that. But the consequential death that is promised to all of us has been defeated. Because of Jesus, we can choose life instead of death. So, it's not an attitude of "God wants to rip your bones out" (or however you characterized it) but that God's word MUST be carried out. God found a way out of the mess. By defeating death, we can die and yet live - through Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory. If you believe God's word then you don't wind up with the absurd conclusions touted by this video.

@Surja9393 5 күн бұрын

Once you realize that The Old Testament isn't even about God, it is much easier to accept more metaphorical gnostic interpretations within the context of paleocontact. Otherwise, it looks as if Aaron is just looking to start his own "denomination". 😂❤

@NewMusic.FreshIdeas 8 күн бұрын

Good observations, thank you. Paul was a Roman agent. In the Book of Romans, he says we must never question the political powers in place, whatever they are. How is that not evil?

@KevinPilsbury 8 күн бұрын

My mind is blown! Faith alone is ego trying to save itself through knowledge. Faith alone is still eating from the tree of knowledge. This blows apart protestant evangelical dogma.

@Godlovesyouunconditionally 9 күн бұрын

Honestly Aaron when I hear people empathize the love of Jesus I wanna say no God’s the one who really loves us and Jesus doesn’t need to love us for him ❤

@jenniferperez1944 8 күн бұрын

The appearance of duality is actually working complimenting catalyzing together as one united towards same ascending purpose

@garygrenier2016 8 күн бұрын

How do you reconcile the wrathful yahweh vs, the God of Jesus? Also, I would love to see you a video on the soul trap idea. You somewhat did here but I would like to hear you specifically address that as it is a pretty depressing concept.

@aliciasavage6801 10 күн бұрын

Gnostism isn't just one form. There were many different forms of Gnostism. It was clear to me years before I ever even learned of viewpoints different from what is known as christianity today, let alone "gnostism" that the "god" that was being talked about in the Old Testament was NOT the God I knew, he sounded like the devil to me. He still sounds evil to me.

@AaronAbke 10 күн бұрын

Correct, and this is true for all religious movements. They inevitably bifurcate. In this video, I am dealing with the 3 most common Gnostic beliefs shared by almost all iterations of Gnosticism.

@NDB200 2 күн бұрын

I see a lot of people in the comments getting caught up in what the word "gnosticism" means. Yes, there were MANY sects of gnostics with varying views. However what Aaron seems to be presenting is how mainstream Christianity views Gnosticism. Many Christians condemn the ideas of duality, the demiurge, and secret knowledge WHILE believing in essentially the same ideas, just worded differently. I think he's speaking in generalities on purpose because he's talking to Christians who dont understand the variety in gnosticsism. Aaron even says there are some good books in the Nag hammadi. He's not attacking all Gnostics, he's attacking the shallow understanding many Christians have.

@therealexistentialist 10 күн бұрын

Great information as usual Aaron!

@miglix22 8 күн бұрын

If the normal Gospels we know weren't surpressed by the church that doesn't make them true automatically, please apply your same logic to yourself.

@edwardromero6639 4 күн бұрын

How is Paul the father of Gnosticism?

@AaronAbke 4 күн бұрын

Did you watch the video?

@edwardromero6639 3 күн бұрын

Yes

@claytongallagher3367 10 күн бұрын

I really feel like there is much missed in this video. There is much more of a spectrum of Gnosticism not covered here. Aaron may still disagree or have similar points on other gnostic perspectives but I just feel there is a thread about the demiurge that predates Christ from Plato. Neo platonism was more contemporary with early Christianity and I feel like that time period was a melting pot of ideas. I appreciate the simplicity of Aaron’s teachings but I feel like the idea of gnosis is similar to what Aaron is teaching. Trusting our inner knowing of truth. The idea that we are of god and not separate from god feels like gnosis to me. It’s funny because I feel like the devil or the demiurge is a projection of our egos on a larger scale maybe. But ultimately the inner adversary that wants us to believe that we are separate from god and separate from love. Or only a selfish self serving love which is an illusion of love.

@UniversalistSon9 10 күн бұрын

From a mystical perspective, Jesus' death on the cross can be seen as a symbolic and metaphysical event, rather than just a historical or theological one. Here are some possible interpretations: 1. *Cosmic reconciliation*: In mystical traditions, Jesus' death on the cross represents the reconciliation of the divine and human realms. By willingly surrendering to the cross, Jesus bridges the gap between the material and spiritual worlds, restoring balance and harmony to the cosmos. 1. *Initiatory sacrifice*: In esoteric Christianity, Jesus' crucifixion is seen as an initiatory sacrifice, where he willingly undergoes a transformative ordeal to demonstrate the path to spiritual enlightenment. This sacrifice represents the ego's surrender to the divine, allowing for the realization of one's true, divine nature. 1. *Alchemical transformation*: Alchemical traditions view Jesus' crucifixion as a symbol of spiritual transformation, where the base metal of human consciousness is transmuted into the gold of divine awareness. The cross represents the intersection of opposites, where Jesus' divine and human natures are united, symbolizing the integration of contradictions within the self. 1. *Mythopoeic narrative*: From a mythopoeic perspective, Jesus' death on the cross represents a universal, archetypal pattern of sacrifice and redemption. This narrative serves as a symbolic reminder of the human condition, where we must confront our own shadow, surrender our ego, and transcend our limitations to realize our true potential. 1. *Gnostic atonement*: In Gnostic traditions, Jesus' crucifixion is seen as a corrective to the flawed, material world created by a false, demiurgic deity. Jesus' sacrifice represents the atonement for the error of separation, restoring the divine spark within humanity and guiding us back to our true, spiritual nature. These mystical interpretations offer alternative perspectives on Jesus' death on the cross, moving beyond the traditional notion of atonement for sins. They invite us to contemplate the deeper, symbolic meanings and spiritual significance of this event.