A Review Of The Panasonic LX100 Micro Four Thirds Camera with fixed zoom lens

A review and test of the Panasonic LX100 Micro Four Thirds Compact Camera - street machine and handy all-rounder.
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[@UrbaneHobbit]

This man rode his bicycle around town, taking photos and thinking about photography. After he got home, he made considered, witty reviews about cameras - many of them - and left them here for us to discover. Sadly, he is no longer around to make more of these videos. But now we have these classics, both the cameras and his comments on them.

[@4orrcountry]

Perfectly put.

[@joeprete7424]

This camera is selling on the used market for more than twice the price, of when it was new. The LX100 II costs way more, if you could find one. R.I.P. David Thorpe, we all miss you!

[@BathoneaDigs]

I find your reviews consistently thoughtful, thanks. I have the GH4 with the 17.5mm f.095 Voigtlander and 42.5mm f1.2 Leica. Supplemented by Leica CL 90mm and Oly OM 35-70 zoom, both on adapters and owned for decades. Bought a 400mm OM tele for 69 bucks on ebay, so I feel I'm covered lens wise. I carry the LX100 on my hip via a clip and the GH4 over shoulder on a strap. Or I carry LX100 as a stand alone. In reality I don't miss the tilt or touch screen; more than made up for by ease of carry of LX100. Am continually stunned at quality coming out of this little box ; 4K is icing on the cake. From time to time tempted, by X-Pro 2, or Sony A6300, but with my GH4 -- and the LX100 -- I have so far resisted. Can only imagine moving on if I were to abandon MFT entirely; not likely any time soon. Again tx for running list of great reviews.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+William DePaulo Thanks William. Yes, I look at the Sony and Fujis too but so far, like you, they don't provide quite the all round answer that MFT does. Something for everyone in the system, all very adaptable (as your lenses show!) and enough IQ to keep me satisfied.

[@voltairejohntan]

when the time i acquired the LX100, i never brought my A6300. It's always with me daily, and produced stunning photos. 12megapixel is more than enough for social media sharing. I never missed a moment since buying LX100.

[@lagazettedesfrancais8155]

Probably still the best all-rounder. I was formed in the days of film photography. I use mine all the time professionally with satisfaction, and pleasure.

[@whoever_81]

Agreed! Are you satisfied with the detail levels in landscapes etc.?

[@lagazettedesfrancais8155]

@@whoever_81 Thanks for your answer. I must say that focus is one of the issues (perhaps the only one) I have with the LX100, achieving it is sometimes pot luck. however, when the result is not completely satisfactory, it is still acceptable and usable. Details in landscapes could be better, for sure, but one could say it depends on the style of photography you aim at. Unfortunately, to me, digital photography has mostly reduced the camera to a sensor and a lens, the rest being done in the very unpleasant "post production", and it is truly amazing what that part of the making of a photo can do (I write this without enthusiasm). Still, I consider the LX100 as the best all-rounder for my work, and to replace it I would need five or ten different cameras, and I only use a tiny proportion of its possibilities, and almost never the video function. I do find the change of aspect ratio very convenient, and the 12 megapixel sensor sufficient. Out are sports and wildlife photos, not mi cup of tea anyway. I was still able to produce a photobook on polo for the local polo federation. Manual control of the various function is all important to me. And I haven't mentioned the price which makes it a real bargain.

[@lagazettedesfrancais8155]

@@whoever_81 PS I forgot to mention that the camera is perfect for tricky or dangerous situations, nobody takes me seriously and I can get on with the job.

[@whoever_81]

La Gazette des Français Ah fantastic! Planning to buy a used one for all around use. Thanks for the detailed answer!

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

That's a great asset at times. Plus, the IQ is well up to print requirements properly used.

[@andreathode3782]

Excellent video as always! Looking forward to your next upload. Always great to watch a MFT aficionado!

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Andrea Thode Thanks Andrea. I like that time lapse video of Saigon. London is bad enough for crossing a road but those people are playing Russian roulette!

[@andreathode3782]

+David Thorpe Hah, thats what I also thought first but then, after a couple of days, I recognised that they have a great sense of flow and I was very comfortable crossing the streets, without looking left or right. It works. Although, crazy traffic, is crazy ;-) Btw. All done with my trusty, old and scuffed GX1

[@krzysztoff386]

Beautiful photos!

[@MrNecropodo]

All youtubers should use this camera review as a template! Thanks, i hope you could review the new OM-1

[@andydonaldson3784]

Very nice review. Had mine 2 weeks and liking it more each day (but with the caveats you highlight). Stepping down from SLR's to Sony's A6000 and now this, but finding it better than just a compromise - the lens alone sold it for me.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+andy donaldson Yes, a lens like that couldn't be made unless it was attached to a camera body specifically made for it. That's what Panasonic appear to have done, come up with the lens and then designed a dedicated camera for it.. Clever,

[@shaka-surf]

Having immediate access to aspect ratio would be fun when cropping for Instagram!

[@earlfenwick]

We miss you David!

[@nikobizarr5652]

Another excellent review. Thanks Dave

[@markpd81]

Absolutely enjoy your videos. Your command of/over the language coupled with the rather interesting animations just give them a character that's hard to come by on KZbin... Keep them coming.. Cheers

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Thanks, Mark. I intend to keep them coming, too!

[@dragonfist25]

Thank you for actually showing picture samples instead of sitting behind a desk and talking to the camera for 15 minutes.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

You are very welcome! The attraction of talking to camera is that you don't have to spend a month using the camera and thinking out and writing a script. My way does save on having to buy a baseball cap, though wearing it backwards and saying "Hi guys" might take a bit of practise.

[@MrVoayer]

Detailed and honest review. Terrific ! Keep on doing high quality and valuable videos, David !

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+MrVoayer Thanks - I intend to keep doing them :-)

[@yopuivideo]

Apart from more megapixes and the added touch screen you can apply this review to the LX100 II as well. My first proper camera was a Pentax ME ( aperture Priority) and it reminds me of it. Now that I am used to it I do switch between aspect ratios for home and work photography!

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Funny, swapping aspect ratio is a switch away now. In film days, it meant a new camera!

[@christophergallagher531]

Thanks, Being frustrated with a GF1's lack of viewfinder, and the 'Hail Mary ' MO that seems contagious, something like this has appeal. One would think the risk of dust finding it's way in would be low. This style of came, from what I can tell is vulnerable. When the lense racks out a vacuum is drawn. As air rushes in it draws 'dirt' with it. Manufacturers, from what I can tell, have failed to provide a filtered port. It is a serious job to clean a sensor with so much wrapped around it. I would enjoy and use such a beast. Chris

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Yes, no one seems to have any lens dust free - even primes get dust in the elements eventually.

[@GregWallis]

You can buy a third party screw on lens hood that works perfectly, and doesn't cause vignetting.

[@richardbresden8474]

If I were a rich man, I would have a bag of lenses. And if I were that rich man, I would consider this camera a toy. But if I were not a rich man, I would consider this camera a Cartier-Bresson wet dream. For $100 less than the Panasonic 12-35mm F2.8, I would have a faster lens, one with near macro capabilities, and a camera that is a joy to use. Back-to-the-future dials and aperture settings where one can see them without scrolling through some submenu. All in an unassuming presence, perfect for the street. No backpack necessary, even if one could afford to bicycle through southern France.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Richard Bresden Interesting perspective - and yes, when you compare the price with the 12-35, it seems out of kilter, doesn't it. Marketing and production economics, I suppose.

[@keith_pictures]

Even after buying a GX9 some months ago, I find myself watching this review with envy. That 24mm f1,7 lens sounds amazing, and while I keep shopping for lenses, I sort of wish I avoided this perpetual gear acquisition syndrome by just getting the LX100 or mark II with touch screen. I think there are two reasons I haven't, which you articulate here, David: no tilt screen, and that zoom just isn't ideal somehow... it hurts the handsomeness of the camera dramatically. It's not quite pocketable, so it wouldn't solve the compactness issue I mildly have with the GX9. But the main reason I like this camera is something you don't value as much: those classic manual dials! I'm not a fan of the PASM and I really wish I could have that shutter dial instead. I also love the 15mm 1.7 PL for having the aperture ring. Old ideas perhaps, but that visual-physical symbiosis really appeals to me! A mix of the LX100 and the GX9 would be the perfect camera. Oh well.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

I find myself that my perfect camera is always just out of reach. A lot of pros and ex pros use the LX100 and that will be because of the feeling of control the shutter speed and aperture ring gives, I think and as you say. For me, the reassuring certainty of seeing the aperture setting on a physical ring is more than offset by the feeling that I'm going to accidentally knock it off my setting. But we're all different and the LX100 offers all the auto settings anyway. My fears of the aperture ring go back to when I was shooting an exclusive set of a high profile show biz personality with his wife and new baby. I was using my Elinchrom lights and Nikon F and set the aperture for f/8 to give me plenty of focus leeway. At some point I must have knocked it to f/2 and all my colour was SERIOUSLY over-exposed. The darkroom guys saved my bacon and managed to come up with useable prints.....proving the old adage that no photographer is a hero to his printer!

[@keith_pictures]

@@DavidThorpeMFT oh man, what a painful story! Yes, such things can be traumatising. Incidentally, I'm curious how you say you'd buy this camera if it was a prime lens instead (like a Fuji X100 or Ricoh GR) - is it because you're also annoyed by the unattractive trombone effect of the zoom lens? It quite puts me off, but I do think it's invaluable to have. If only it remained handsomely closed at 24mm!

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

@@keith_pictures I reckon a 15 to 17mm f/1.4 lens purpose designed for the LX100 wouldn't be much bigger than the unextended zoom and that would make the camera into a 'little Leica' for street photographers and eliminate its only physical point of weakness, the zoom. It's that weakness combined with the inelegant tromboning that I don't like, as you suggest. Many ex press photographers like such one trick pony cameras for their toughness and their 'always ready' nature. But I'm talking about people who have the luxury of a second camera. For a majority of buyers the zoom will be what they want. Basically, I'm asking Panasonic to build a camera to my personal spec. Surely that's not too much to ask :-)

[@keith_pictures]

@@DavidThorpeMFT Surely not! After they make yours, I hope they can make mine :D

[@raygeary1698]

Just. Got one love it my carry around cam love the controls. Just wish had a touch screen but I use the Panasonic great app for that instead

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Ray Geary Yes, interesting that even if there isn't a built in touch screen, there's one on the app.

[@michaelconchscooter8940]

Plus you can use your phone to take pictures through the app giving you total control from whatever angle.

[@AdamHouston]

For me the LX100 works well as a camera that I'll take when I'm not taking a camera. The old school controls make it very easy to pick up and use. It has its limitations, as you noted in your review, but nothing that creates insurmountable problems for me. The focal length range covers most of the shots it needs to. If I think I'm likely to need wider or longer, then I'll bring one of my other cameras instead with the appropriate lens(es). If I had a complaint it would be that it is still running the original firmware. I don't know what Panasonic is usually like at freshening up the firmware of their products, but I'm sure we all have things we'd like tweaked in firmware - not necessarily looking for new features.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Panasonic is not great at updating firmware. They tend to do it for something specific whereas Olympus seem to regard it more as an ongoing sprucing up of the camera. It's a better policy, I think. The limitation of the LX100 are inherent in its design and are well chosen, I think. There's always a balance necessary between versatility and all round ease of use and I think Panasonic have hot a sweet spot with the LX100. I've recommended it to several friends anfd they all seem delighted with it.

[@AdamHouston]

The LX100 is my only Panasonic so I don't have a long history with their culture. I guess I'm a bit spoilt with my OM-Ds and Pens because Olympus uses firmware updates not just to provide tweaks but sometimes to provide new features. Overall it's still a beaut little camera for photographers as a complement to their main systems.

[@johnc3403]

I agree on your last comment about the fixed focal length lens but I'd go further. If the LX100 was available with a fixed 50mm equivelent lens, dedicated high quality bespoke B&W sensor and the fisher-price type filters stripped away but replaced by some useful ND filters, I'd buy, even at an elevated price. As for this camera, i have one and i love it...

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Yes, a good thought. It would be a little similar to the mono Leica model in concept. I hadn't thought of it but your idea about ND filters is an excellent one. I'd happily swap all the toy filters etc for a good range of NDs. I've never thought of it but I presume it could be done without IQ loss. You could have, say 5, 10 and 25 and 50 ISO but that impacts on dynamic range.

[@valkyrie743]

was having a bad day, then i see in my sub box showing a new David Thorpe video and it made my day :) nice review. I was thinking about buying this camera a few months ago but decided to go with the GX7 because of no touch screen, not swivel, and the fixed lens. but i really wish i had the 4K 100 mbps video Will you be doing a video review on the new panasonic 25mm f1.7?

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Valkyrie743 Thanks - nice to know I improved someone's day! Yes, I'm hoping to get hold of a 25mm soon.

[@UnumsedLeonem]

Thank you for the review, David. I think, given the alternatives, this one will do quite handsomely for daily snapping and as a take-along camera for bicycle (or motorcycle) tours. I'm curious to know what its successor is bound to offer. I must admit, I beg to differ in the lens: for a non-interchangeable lens camera design a zoom lens is, to me, indispensable. I only wish it was a small, but not so flimsy, equivalent of 24 to 135 or thereabouts, with a fixed max. aperture of 2 or thereabouts, lens. 20-24MP for a M4/3 system (or 30MP for APS-C if another manufacturer came up with an alternative - or 36MP for FF - without costing one-third of that of the Sony RX1). ...That the design made full advantage of the entire sensor surface. And that the viewfinder was articulated (and so was the live view display) and slightly larger as you lamented. I concur. ...and that all serious camera equipment came with dedicated dials for aperture, shutter speed and ISO - like in this one and most Fuji models'.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

The LX is a perfect take anywhere camera, it'll do most things and do them well. Lots of professional buy these and the Fujis because they like the manual interface.

[@zaymax_7]

5 years later and physics has still proven your wish to be far impossible

[@Tikip0p]

Your reviews alway put a smile on my face. And a dent in my wallet! Thanks you and keep up the great reviews David ;)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+indra72 Thanks for that - I'm glad the reviews make you smile. The next trick is to smile while your wallet is being depleted -much harder :-)

[@javedakhtar9740]

@@DavidThorpeMFT luminex

[@beyonder1768]

Are there any reviews of this camera for owners that do not understand pphotography jargon?

[@DustinBKerensky97]

Excellent pictures taken with it BTW.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Dustin B Thanks Dustin.

[@Boy-cm8ec]

Good review and impressive picture

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+1984Boy Thanks!

[@ismailmanssouri1687]

if i tell chose betwen lx10 and lx100 wich 1 is better for vedio recorder.thnx lot

[@bystrikvasek9344]

Perfect vide!! Man pls help me. Lx100 or sony rx 100m III?? Witch shoult i buy if i want take pictures of my little son?? Thanks.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Gandalf Sk Thanks! The LX100 is more of a photographer's camera than the Sony with all the control it offers via the dials and lens aperture ring. It's a bit bigger than the Sony (though I would prefer this) and has better sequence shooting. And while the Sony has more Mps, this means nothing unless you intend to print bigger than A3. As a long term buy, I'd favour the LX100.

[@stephenmilner6719]

Awesome review, thank you!

How does this camera perform in 2023, I am thinking about get one for travel with the family and don’t want to bring a lot of gear.

[@SuchanBajracharya]

It is perfect! It is not always the latest and greatest, simple camera like the LX100 brings the joy in photography!

[@KutWrite]

Well done! Thanks, Thorpie!

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

You are very welcome - thank you!

[@BobLee333]

Hi David and thanks for your always helpful videos, I have interest in buying this camera , do you think it can replace my Nikon D90 and the 50 mm f1.8 lens? I don’t have any other lenses and I like the idea of a camera lens combo for being more flexible, would it be a good move to leave dslr behind and move to the large sensor compact? Would I lose image quality ? Thanks in advance.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Thanks, Bob. The main thing about the LX would be that you'd always have it with you which maximizes your picture making potential. There is an inevitable loss of image quality by going to a smaller sensor but it is largely not noticeable since images are mainly viewed on phones, tablets or computer screens these days, so any advantage of the larger sensor is lost in the downsampling required for the display medium. Certainly, the LX will be a whole lot more versatile than your Canon/ 50mm combination.

[@mudgie069]

Great review as always.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Howie Mudge Thanks Howie!

[@NetvoTV]

- Is it a great first camera or I should get interchangeable lens camera first? Smaller for more shot or bigger for better handling? - Is it a great manual shooting learning camera? Or too small for that? How about just in photography side? A guy want to upgrade from iPhone to learn about photography to shoot manual, I like the aperture ring but not sure if this is a great camera for that purpose, was plan to get XE3 with 16-55mm F2.8 but the best camera is the one with you, so I guess this is a great camera for that purpose too since its small, has aperture ring and should be great quality and has zoom lens, right? Or I should get RX100 V or LX10? How about the 24mm wide in FF term, is it really as wide as 24mm on FF? Shoot indoor tight space, architecture and landscape is no problem?

[@geburahsilberwolf7683]

Get mine today !!! =) Very very good Review like always =) I use it besides a Sony A77Mk2 for my Sport Dog fast Stuff. Your Reviews have helped me always very.... Thank u David ! Nice greetings from Salzburg =)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Geburah “Wulf” Silberwolf Thanks Geburah - and greetings from London!

[@robertgeorgecrowther6633]

I can't seem to get out of the ia mode to p a or m only ia it monochrome what's wrong

[@stevebrooks65]

Hi David, I realize this is an older video, however on the subject of compact pocket size cameras just when out and about I currently rely on my iphone 6. I'd really like something with lens options or a good point and shoot with a zoom. What do you think, if anything of the Panasonic gm1 or the Olympus E-PL8? . At present I have a G-7 with a 14-140mm and before I head off to London in June I'll likely get myself a 7-14mm.

[@stevebrooks65]

sorry I meant the Panasonic Gx80/85.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

I have a GM1 which I use for exactly what you say. It really is tiny and with the 12-32 lens pocketable. IQ is standard Micro Four Thirds, little different, if at all from the G7. Panasonic appear o have dropped them now but I got an as new used one for £149. The Olympus is a little too big for your (and my) purposes. I have the 7-14mm Panasonic, compact and sharp. I just love it for giving a bit of ooomph to land and cityscapes. I tried the Olympus version but it is bigger and more expensive and for my purposes f/2.8 isn't necessary. A lovely linens, though. Incidentally, a G7 and 14-140 is what i always recommend to friends who are looking for a 'do anything' camera. Not had one complaint yet!

[@jonhermannsson9231]

I have the Fuji X100 and X100s - and the LX100 - for street shooting - and of course I enjoy using the LX100 a lot lot more - the Fuji X100 is the worst focusing camera I have ever used :) - ok the X100s is better - I love the idea of a M43 sensor and a fast 24-75mm F1.7 in a fairly compact size- ( there is a lens cap with a bit of a hood ) I think Panasonic at the time was trying to compete with the over the top hyped Fuji X100/s/t - by not having a Mode dial etc - I however would have preferred to see a Mode dial - also yes I would have preferred to have it a 16MP - and NO Touch LCD is a real mistake from Panasonic - I just think they where zooming in on the Purists that buy Fuji's and hate Touch LCD's although they use Touch LCD phones every day and love them :) go figure - also I think a Tilt LCD is a must and really does not add that much thickness - I do appreciate the many features of the LX100 - and really often grab it - I hate swapping lenses so the LX100 is just my 24-70mm F2.8 lens - except it is 75mm and F1.7-2.8 - and it is really practical for street shooting - all black and lens does not stick far out and no one knows you got something more serious then a point and shoot compact cameras - they just think you have an old larger point and shoot camera :) I really would consider updating to LX200 - if it had a Tilt LCD - and I think they should give up and include a Mode Dial - the Fuji X100s/r/t hype is over :) - and foremost have Touch LCD - skip the aspect modes - use the full sensor - I would expect they would use the new 20MP sensor - improve a bit on the IS - But really the LX100 is a great street shooter - so light and handy and good image quality and nice low light performance -

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Jon Hermannsson From my own point of view and from many comments, it seems that no touch or swivel screen was definitely a mistake. And most would prefer a mode dial too. The 12Mp I understand because it is that that makes the lens size and speed possible.

[@raygeary1698]

Some reports on Facebook about dust specks on sensor I haven't any issues

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Ray Geary None on mine but bad news if the reports are correct - I nwnder of dirt can get sucked in by the lens tromboning in and out? Hope not.

[@raygeary1698]

+David Thorpe yes I'll keep a eye on it The report on a Facebook Lx 100 user group Only had a few weeks love the controls like my Fuji

[@Antwort2und40]

For travel and convenience, this (LX100), the new GX85 w/12-32 or the Pen F with 14-42? I'm normally a Leica shooter (Monochrom and film if I want color), and shoot mostly B&W with 50mm lenses. I'd likely shoot JPEG with this camera. LX100 is attractive due to the lens, Pen F due to JPEG customizations, GX85 might give me some AF options I don't have with the Leica (action shots of family sports). Thoughts?

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Nate Jedinak They all have their merits! The Pen F is very expensive but you are paying for the build and looks. That's not to say it's not a good camera but I don't think I'd regard it as value for money purely as a camera. It might satisfy a Leica user though, usd to that metallic quality. The GX is lovely (I've just picked one up today) but you do have the lens changing to contend with. Since you have the Leica for your more serious photography and want a second camera for convenience, I think I'd go for the LX100. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone serious about photography as their only camera, that would have to have interchangeable lenses. But for convenience and image quality it isn't second to any of the cameras that you mention (other then the Leica, of course!) and focus wise all Panasonics come with class leading focusing speed and Micro Four Thirds accuracy and there'd be little if any difference between this and the GX. The LX100 feels good too and I think you'd find it your best choice.

[@Antwort2und40]

Thank you for the measured and thoughtful reply, David. I think you're right, and this is the direction I'm leaning... Additionally the haptics look very familiar, which is a consideration. What is giving me pause: the B&W coming out of the Pen is attractive (and for this purpose, I welcome time saving), and I'm a bit nervous about "marrying" the LX's lens as of course on the GX/Pen F I could shoot something like the 25/1.4, which may better match my expectations. But perhaps simplicity should rule. I'll try to get my hands on them soon. Thank you for the reply!

[@grzegorzdabrowski6204]

Hello David , does LX100 have electronic gauge level? I use Fz200 and I prepare for buy camera with bigger sensor. Probably LX100 or G7.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Grzegorz Dabrowski Hi Grzegorz - yes, it does. Both cameras have a button labelled Disp. which cycles through various display screens and shows the level gauge. Or you can assign it to a Function button.

[@DFX4509B]

I'm mostly looking around for decent upgrades from my H300, both ILC and fixed-lens.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

The LX100 might do the trick - there's a newer one but it's very similar overall.

[@DFX4509B]

a6000, GX85, LX100, or RX100 III are the main four I'm debating between grabbing whenever money allows.

[@1fareast14]

I wish more cameras would drop the mode dial, it makes no sense in the age of auto iso.

[@peteduxon8658]

as ever David a nice well balanced video review. Everyone (including Panny) says it's the GX7 viewfinder but somehow the GX7 vf seems better to me.... the lack of a touch screen I could live without but I really missed some form of tilty screen. handy for low down shots. there was a lot here to like it just wasn't quite right. TBH this is a body with a tilty screen that would be a good 2nd body for m43 shooters.... 12-32 35-100 and 20 mm would be great for travel. ok for you add that Oly 17 :D a few asides IF Panny would make that lens with a 2.2 crop factor to use on a GX7/GX8 or any m43 camera, would you buy it? I'm looking forward to your 25 f1.7 review. that is a ridiculously cheap lens for m43..... bit like the Oly 45 f1.8 you ever reviewing the G7??

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Pete Duxon Too right about the Olympus 17mm :-) It's very subjective but it seems to me that the GX7 EVF is better. I'd be interested in a standalone 12-75mm but I wouldn't mind if it was a bit bigger to cover the full sensor, especially if it could go out to 80mm.

[@drilyas1]

Lx100 mark 2 vs olympus em10 mark 2, which one would you recommend for day to day or travel use?

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

I'd say the LX. The Olympus is obviously more versatile but only with the addition of extra lenses which change the game somewhat. For sheer trouble free use day to day and travel, it#s hard to beat. Also, if you did find yourself getting into the realms of ultra wide and tele photography, the LX remains entirely functional as the camera you take everywhere with you when you are not planning any picture taking - but something might present itself.

[@drilyas1]

Thank you

[@Ashwekar]

Will my parents be able to use this? Thinking of gifting one to my parents. They are most likely going to use only one button on the camera: the shutter button. They travel a lot and I want them to have memorable photos

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Actually, I just advised a friend of mine who wanted exactly the same thing as your parents. I advised this camera. Just set it in iA (intelligent auto) for them and all they have to do is frame the pic. The fast lens takes care of most things, the stabilization helps and the results will thrill them.

[@Ashwekar]

Thank you!

[@jwyoon0701]

I want to buy my first camera, a compact camera for ease of use and portability. I am stuck between Lx10 and Sony Rx100 lV or V since they are a more recent version cameras. From what I've got by reading through the specs and reviews, although Lx10 is a recent version camera, it is not necessarily an upgrade from Lx100, although it might have the tilt/touch screen features and + Sony Rx100 lV / V, especially Mark V seemed attractive with AF technology and all, but the result of the photo seemed very flat and cold to me. Lacks the sentiment should I say? So, I'm leaning towards this two-three years old Lx100. The main usage would be street/landscape photography. And most likely I'll be enjoying the photos on my phone and computer. Would you also recommend the Lx100 over the other two options(Lx10 and Rx100 lV/V) ? I'd really appreciate your thoughts! Thanks.

[@jwyoon0701]

Oh, I'd like to add Sony a6000 to the list. Perhaps putting this camera on the list gives an obvious winner, but I really don't know much about cameras + the end result of what each camera is capable of producing. Thanks!

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

The A6000 does put you in a different area, being an interchangeable lens camera. It loses some portability, therefore and the standard zoom lenses will be slower and bigger. This will be the best image quality of your choices but at a penalty which takes it out of your original specification. If you want a widish range high speed zoom, the LX100 would look to be your best best. A good all round compromise on image size and quality with a highly controllable package. If you are considering interchangeable lens cameras, I'd take a look at the Olympus E-M10 MkII. But given your ease of use and portability requirements the LX100 is probably the best all rounder.

[@jwyoon0701]

Thanks a lot for your reply. I should have read it earlier. I went to the store to feel the cameras in my hand. Lx100 had an image sentiment that I really liked. I walked out, walked back in and came out with the Sony a6300.. I still don't know what happened. Hope it turns out for the best. Thanks again!

[@amateurfutographer6502]

hi, please could you tell me what is the zoom range (in meters) with this camera? thanks

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Amateur Futographer The zoom range is 10.9-34 _mm_ which is the angle of view of a 12-75mm lens on a full frame camera. I take it that by metres, you intended millimetres.

[@edshotsdotcodotuk]

i'm wanting to see a Trip-D still (especially if they can put usb charging into it)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+edshotsdotcodotuk I'd like USB charging too.

[@motazinenglish8190]

Hello! There was another review that said auto ISO mode will actually chose a slow shutter speed which isn't really smart. Did anyone else find this a problem?

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Motaz Sonbol I didn't notice it myself but I do tend to set ISO explicitly to where I want it. Anyone help?

[@jrgenkleist-christensen254]

If they added the 20mp sensor from the gx8 and a touchscreen I would buy 5 of these and not thinkign about getting another camera. I had the lx100 and I loved everything about it except the lack of touchscreen, and for me the 12 megapixel isn't enough room to play with when I love shooting landscape.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Jørgen Kleist-Christensen Yes, it would be nice to have more pixels but then the lens would be bigger, so the camera would be bigger and might lose its purpose. Touch screen as I said in the video, why ever isn't there one?

[@keith_pictures]

There is now! Mark II 🙌

[@PhilippeOrlando]

If you had to buy only one cam and your main interest is video, would you go with the G7, the LX 100 or the GX8? Mainly interested in narratives. Note that I didn't mentioned the GH4.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Philippe Orlando No question, Philippe, the G7. It does everything video that the GX8 does but costs less. Very capable at stills too. I'm posting a review of it tomorrow.

[@PhilippeOrlando]

+David Thorpe Wonderful. I was hesitating but thought like you, I guess needed confirmation from somebody who used both. Personally as a non professional I can't justify the GH4 yet, certainly not paying twice for so little in video difference. I'd rather put the difference into a speedbooster. Thanks for the answer. Waiting for the review

[@LucidStrike]

+Philippe Orlando For a project in which I COULD afford the GH4, I went with the LX100, mostly because of the lens. The LX100 cost us $479.02 total, whereas even just the 24-70 f2.8 Panasonic lens is about $700.

[@jan-martinulvag1962]

I find that the Canon 350D makes better and cleaner pictures. In fact I dont use the LX100 cos when I get home and look at the pictures I can hardly find anyone that I like.

[@kentxx12]

Very good review as always David,but this lens must be the real deal here? There are not many of those out there with these spec: 24mm F1,7 to 70mm F2,8 in 35mm full frame comparison,that lens alone had possibly cost around 500 to 600 quid maby more....and it have Power O.I.S also.That sets it up against Pany 12mm-35mm F2.8 Which is priced around 850 (GBP) pound!...Isn't this camera or the lens a steal for the price? A new Panasonic LX100 today 27.05.17. Cost in Norway 520 (GBP) Pound.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Thanks Knut. Yes, it is a camera based around the lens. You couldn't make a lens like this for an interchangeable lens camera so the whole thing together does make a bargain. The penalty is that you can't use a longer or wider lens with it but for most people looking for a general purpose camera, the lens on the LX100 is more than enough. I've recommended this camera to several friends and they are all delighted with it. I am glad to say!

[@kentxx12]

Totally agree with you at all points, and there's still a much more expensive version of it too ..the Leica D-Lux (109) to a price of double of the price to the panny! :0 You know "the red dot" ;)

[@JonBushell]

What is people's opinion of this against the gx7 with lumix 20 pancake and Olympus 45mm. Any better?

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Jon Bushell Personally, if I were going to have one camera only and knew I'd never want anything more, it's be the LX100 because it is so very capable an all rounder. But the GX7 is in a different league really, because it opens up all the possibilities of photography. For me, the GX7 with Olympus 17mm f/1.8 (20mm Panasonic if you prefer) and 45mm Olympus or Panasonic lenses plus a 14-140mm would constitute a perfect outfit. _Plus_ you can add old 35mm lenses, macro, 300mm if and when you want to.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+M7Caravan Thank you!

[@piemo]

a new video! great, you just made my evening :)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+piemo I'm blushing :-) Thanks!

[@piemo]

+David Thorpe out of curiosity: how do you manage to get so much equipment? do you ask olympus and panasonic to give you a review copy for a while? :)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+piemo Neither Olympus or Panasonic so much as acknowledge any emails I send them. The vast majority of the stuff I review I buy myself and sell on. ePHOTOzine's Joshua Waller sends me stuff too. That was the case with this LX100. The beauty of buying it is that I can give it a thorough workout for as long as I wish and I can say what I want about it. The reality is that MFT equipment is uniformly good these days and pretty much beyond technical criticism but none the less it means I can say what I want. The problem with buying stiff and selling it is the financial hit that entails but my main reason for what I do is personal enjoyment so provided I can cover my costs I'm happy. Not that I'd object to becoming rich!

[@jtburg88]

Can you help me? the iA button keeps switching between video and iA, instead of giving me control. I always get F disabled and SS disabled with I try to change settings. I'm very confused, can anyone help?

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

I can only think that you are accidentally pressing the. red record button on the back

[@NeverWolf]

How does this lens compare to the Oly 12 to 40 pro zoom?

[@NeverWolf]

I ask because it has a similar range, is faster and... well... costs less.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

The Olympus zoom will be sharper as it should be, given that it costs more than the LX100 camera. Very different beasts, though,

[@NeverWolf]

+David Thorpe also I realized that just like when viewed as a Camera and see the disadvantage of being unable to change the lens, when viewed as a lens you're unable to change the body. it is very different.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

A normal Micro four Thirds body solves both problems, luckily!

[@Ws6er97]

A high end MFT with a 35 mm equivalent to compete with the beautiful but flawed the Fuji X100 series would go right in my bag.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Backkick Productions Yes, me too.

[@sonnybrown4758]

I wish it were a fixed prime too. I have x100t envy now

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Yes, a lot of news photographers use those as an 'always with you' camera.

[@GaganGrewalf095]

I think I should return my LX-100 and demand a new one since my copy has a manufacturing defect I noticed after watching the video, none of the dials except the zoom/focus ring rotate endlessly ! :-/

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Gagan Grewal Yes, it's a one off special Panasonic built for me. Of course, it's a bit awkward taking pictures when the settings are endlessly rotating and it runs down the battery pretty fast. But provided you have an endless supply of batteries and don't want to take pictures with it, it's very useful :-)

[@GaganGrewalf095]

+David Thorpe It'd be convenient to have en endless supply of batteries any day :)

[@disraelidemon]

I got one of these as a companion to a GX7 and I've got to say, it's so snappy, it makes the GX7 feel a bit slow and laggy (though I still love it). . I love the fact that, with the leaf shutter, you get high-speed flash sync and effectively silent shooting without the risk of banding from fluorescent light sources. I agree it would be better with a swivelling touch screen, and frankly, I'd prefer it to have a mode dial/twin input dials, partly for ease of one-handed use and partly so I'm not pawing fruitlessly for controls that aren't there when I swap between this and the GX7. Interested to note that you also disabled that lens ring; I didn't have trouble with it fouling the aperture ring, but whatever parameter I set it to, I ended up changing it without meaning to. I'd much prefer a Fuji-style mechanical zoom ring to save on battery power and speed up zooming. Speaking of controls that don't stay put, I have to check the exposure compensation dial on mine every time I get it out. It's far too easy to move accidentally. Firmware fixes: Panasonic really needs to make the top plate iA and filter buttons programmable; at the moment they're just a waste of space. More importantly, they need to restore the lovely LX-series manual focus distance scale with DoF bar; the LX100 has the useless G-series mountain-and-flower scale which tells you nothing. I've been waiting years for Panasonic to upgrade the G-series focus scale to the better LX-series one and instead they've gone completely the wrong way. But at least the LX100 will do focus and zoom resume. All curmudgeonliness aside, I love my LX100 and carry it everywhere. It has to be absolutely the best compact I've ever used.

[@disraelidemon]

+Disraeli Demon Oh, forgot to add, I am that weird guy who uses the aspect ratio switch all the time :-) Wish my GX7 had one...

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Disraeli Demon So you use it - well it doesn't make you a bad person :-) Seriously, yes the very high flash sync speed is quite a bonus and the vague distance scale annoying. But, as you say, judged bu other compact, it is amazing.

[@mubblemann]

I recognise Kingston High Street ;-)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Mubble Mann Exactly right - well spotted!

[@raygeary1698]

controls like my xe2 or leica touch screen on the next gen ! touch to focus etc

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Ray Geary Yes, quite a few people have complained about the lack of touch control so they probably will implement it on a new model.

[@raygeary1698]

+David Thorpe wish had touch on my xe2 and image stabilisation but the image quality is what I want , lx 100 look ok for spare in bag

[@raygeary1698]

+David Thorpe wish had touch on my xe2 and image stabilisation but the image quality is what I want , lx 100 look ok for spare in bag

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Ray Geary What you'll like about the LX100 is the speedy lens and the focusing which is much, much faster than most competitors. Just point and it is focused.

[@raygeary1698]

Panasonic are brilliant for fast focus. Fuji are ok for what I want landscape and macro. Where you don't need. Tracking focus or ultra fast focus like gx7. And fast lens lx 100. Panasonic do a great phone app for camera which is a plus great control

[@timur7381]

I think this model was re-packaged as Leica d-lux typ 109. Mate of mine bought one, awesome compact. Leica version has a nicer design though)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Timur Dzhambinov Not so nice price though! :-)

[@timur7381]

He actually got it fairly cheap :) I think similar price with the Pana version. Dunno how)

[@timur7381]

But I do agree, there's not much sense getting Leica version except for style points :)

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Timur Dzhambinov There's a certain amount of cachet in having the Leica version because "everyone knows Leica is fantastic" whereas Panasonic make vacuum cleaners and TVs and stuff too so they can't be as good. We know better but I bet the Leica holds its resale price well.

[@timur7381]

Heh, i certainly do not have any stereotypical opinion about panasonic) I really like what Panasonic and Olympus are doing, and enjoy the MFT format so far, although I am not a pro photographer of any kind, just a hobbyist.

[@arion316]

Nice

[@jan-martinulvag1962]

11:01 unfortunately the sensor gets dirty.

[@davidthorpe7732]

I never had such a problem myself but others have reported it. How you'd clean it I don't know.

[@jan-martinulvag1962]

@@davidthorpe7732 If you use a vacum cleaner and zoom in and out you can get lucky. If not it has to be opened and its very difficult and time consuming. Some say removing the battery while vacuming can help. I was able to move one dust particle.

[@emmanuelgoldstein8233]

I don’t why this is not the ultimate travel/hiking camera. Flexible zoom range, and 1.7 aperture. You won’t need to bring camera bag with lenses anymore

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

It's a popular take everywhere camera with many professionals for the reasons you outline. No trouble to carry but capable of excellent results. Traveling or hiking, you's hardly know you had the camera with you.

[@triplestrafe]

A VIDEO??? YESSSSSHHHHH [:

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+3plestrafe :-)

[@svendura1]

I own one of these for a year by now. It is a very capable camera but I find it confusingly complicated. The german manual has around 350 pages. Too many features I'll never use. And the exposure control dial can be easily accidentally switched when taking it in or out of the pocket. I ruined a few shots with it. Good camera, but I wouldn't buy it again.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Svenja In particular, taking a camera in and out of a bag can move all kinds of settings and it is useful that you've mentioned it. I'll try to keep it in mind for reviews. What you say about features , I've written about this occasionally. It's like Microsoft Word, where any one person only used about 10% of what it can do. But of course, features are attractive to reviewers. What I'd like would be a camera that came with, say, 4 levels of firmware and which could be installed via USB. So you could have Firmware Level 1 which gave you much the same settings choice as a film camera. Level 2 might add video. Level 3 would add more features and so on. I like your remark about good camera but I wouldn't buy it again. Very pragmatic view. What would you replace it with? In Micro Four Thirds Panasonic menu and controls are about as good as it gets. It may be that a G7 would suit you better? Or non-Micro Four Thirds.

[@svendura1]

+David Thorpe That is a very good idea, allowing cameras with different levels of firmware isntalled. In fact I love mirrorless cameras but cannot decide between an Olympus Pen (which one soever), or a Fuji with the slightly bigger sensor. I have a couple of Leica M lenses and could use it on either system with a Novoflex adapter. And your comparison to MS Word is very accurat. I might handle all those systems, a Lumix as well as MS Word, but it takes too much attention. Mainly I only want to type or to take photos. I like that in the old Leicas I have. Plain, simple, effective and very good qualtiy.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Svenja The digital Leicas are still pretty straightforward compared to most digital cameras but - the price! They sem more aimed at rich Russians than normal photographers now. When I had them, they were always expensive but not that much more than a Nikon F, say. Plain, simple, effective and quality. That's my core outlook too.

[@guardianobserver6593]

Svenja have you bought a new camera? Can I ask which?

[@svendura1]

Guardian Observer Yes. I've sold the LX100 and bought myself a Fuji X-E2s. I love it. It's everything I've ever wanted PLUS I've got a Novoflex adapter for my old Leica lenses.

[@GoA7250]

Leica D-Lux 109 equivilant.

[@pabloriquelme7404]

Love this little camera, it's a little monster. The only problem that I have found is the ISO performance specially in video mode and Log profile would be awesome to have. Excellent review David! here some RAW test files: www.pabloriquelmephotography.com/pablo-riquelme-photography-blog/panasonix-lumix

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Pablo Riquelme Thanks Pablo.

[@raygeary1698]

Disappointed with mk2 missed a optunity 😨

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

It's a bit like the GX80 -> GX9, an incremental 'upgrade'. Buy one of you are looking for this type of camera but not necessarily worth buying if you have the original.

[@dvamateur]

I precisely like this camera because it does not have touchscreen, and that it does not have cheesy plastic articulated LCD. I take the EVF, thank you very much. If you want touchscreen and articulation, please use your cell phone for your photography. Oh, by the way, forgot to add. How can one criticize dedicated control for aspect ratio switch? Haven't we always been applauding dedicated function buttons? Come on... The review starts nicely, and then the script gets unlistenable criticizing the best features of this camera.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Andrew Piatek Use a cell phone instead of a GH4 or Olympus E-M511? That's a bit emotional isn't it? I say about the aspect ratio switch that I can't see any need for it but that it doesn't do any harm so why not? You didn't actually listen to the review at all, did you :-)

[@dvamateur]

+David Thorpe I did, and it was good at the beginning, and then it got very disappointing. It's the best camera in its class. I got one is Leica livery, and I am not complaining about anything really.

[@LucidStrike]

+Andrew Piatek Touch focus is damn useful, not a gimmick or something to mock.

[@dvamateur]

Lucid Strike I don't like touch screens. Cheap solution.

[@LucidStrike]

Cheap solution? What sort of criticism is that? You prefer your solutions cost more? :|

[@davewyman]

Isn't the LX100 lens equivalent to a 24-75mm lens, and not 12-75? This is a terrific camera and because I like shiny new things, I might buy it. However, the Sony A6000 with a 16-50mm lens comes quite close to the LX100 in weight, negating a principal advantage of the 4/3 sensor. The A6000 has image stabilization and multi-frame mode for use with very high ISOs. Plus it has a tilting monitor. Of course, it also has more resolution with 24 mp APS-C sensor. And you can always change lenses on the A6000. Because the A6000 out specs the LX100 in almost every category, and particularly almost matches it in weight, I'd say the former camera is a better camera. But I can't say it, because the A6000 lenses are all slower lenses. Put an f/1.7 lens on an A6000. though, and you'd have a beast. The fact that the LX100 has such a fast lens at the short end is what keeps it from having a longer zoom, which would, even it it were quite slow, make it a beast, too.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Dave Wyman That's a slip o' the tongue, I must watch that. I might start quoting angles of view rather than equivalent focal lengths, more exact and less accident prone! The cameras, all compromises, isn't it? If this then not that and so on. We have a choice of cameras and lenses now that were undreamed of a couple of decades ago but the perfect one camera for everybody will never exist - I am happy to say. I love your remark about shiny things - it says so much in a few of words. I love shiny things too. I used to think I shouldn't but I just accept it now. I love the feel of new stuff and finding out what I can do with it but some of today's cameras not only perform great but are beautiful little sculptures too.

[@davewyman]

+David Thorpe - I agree with you! Love you're reviews.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+Dave Wyman Thanks Dave!

[@hpg2u]

No spots on the sensor? Wish you were right! my GX7 after 3 year’s service is “spotless” - so is my Nikon D-series fleet big regrets of blowing a Grand on this predenter! my LX7 is my go-to disposeble choice the use of the name “Leica” on these pretenders is a violation of my 1956 DS M3’s “spotless” track record

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

Many of the earlier Leica digital cameras were rebadged Panasonics which I always felt was a bit unprincipled on Leica's part. Obviously Leica makes money out of Panasonic for the Leica name in some way still! I had a pair of Leicas, an M2 and M3 but I hated the things. They had one use and once only for me, the quiet shutter compared to the appalling 'clop' of my Nikons that got in the way of working on film sets and such places. There were always those appalling blimps, of course. Now, at last, we have silent cameras!

[@cwx8]

$750 CDN still strikes me as a lot for this thing.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+jagerx It isn't cheap but not too different from comparable competition.

[@cwx8]

David Thorpe I ended up arriving at that same conclusion, also noticing that they likely won't release a predecessor until late 2016 with Canadian release probably not until early 2017. Picked one up.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+jagerx I just realized that €750 CDN is a good bit cheaper than the UK price :-(

[@cwx8]

David Thorpe Yeah it appears you're getting pretty beat up. Cheapest UK price I found was 450 pounds or roughly $900 CDN. Yikes. I won't complain.

[@richardbresden8474]

"Probably one of the best camera packages ever." An interesting review from a former ardent defender of prime lenses. www.theinspiredeye.net/panasonic-lx100-review/

[@HarveyWallbanger-ho2cq]

Touch screens are for spoiled people

[@Gulliveck]

Aperture ring is pointless, because when you set it at F/1.7 and then zoom in, your aperture will be smaller than F/1.7, but the ring will stay put -> the ring does not show actual aperture. Shutter speed - you cannot set it to 1/50 with a dial (let alone 1/48), so you set it to 1/60, then adjust to 1/50 with a rear dial -> the top dial does not show actual shutter speed. These controls look like real mechanical controls from 50 years ago, but in reality they are fake. They are made for wannabe photogs who want to show off a classic manual camera. But it is not a manual camera, so stop pretending. The LX100 shoots great stills and 4K videos, but its ergonomics sucks, and its "I want to be a real mechanical camera" appeal is totally deceiving. This is why I despise the LX100. Oh, and the lens is too short at 75mm. I want something around 120mm. I understand I cannot get it in a body this small with 4/3 sensor, so to me the Fuji X30 makes more sense (but not as a video camera, because its video quality is horrible). Or get the G7, which - surprise! - sells for less than the LX100, but its kit lens has bigger reach: 28-84mm in 35mm terms. Also, its viewfinder breaks up in a rainbow whenever I look into it, I don't like the technology Panasonic used in the EVF.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+EluraUser I take it you won't be buying one then ;-)

[@Gulliveck]

+David Thorpe I bought one and then returned it for the reasons I stated - sorry, B&H. I just bought the G7 for a very sweet price, almost twice cheaper than the LX100. With the kit 14-42mm I am missing nothing the LX100 offers, have longer range, have sensible controls, have mic input, and if I wanted to I can swap the lens. The lens is slower than on the LX100, this is a downside. Yes, I cannot put the G7 with the lens attached in a pocket, another downside. But at least its controls do not enrage me, and the grip is so much better.

[@DavidThorpeMFT]

+EluraUser The G7 is a lovely camera. I'm just working with it now. You are echoing what I said in my video, actually. For most people the G7 or another MFT body are much better value with much more extensibility. You can't get a G7 in your pocket? I couldn't get the LX100 in mine. A coat pocket, maybe but with the 12-32mm zoom fitted, so will the G7. Nonetheless, the lX100 will fill the bill for some people with particular requirements and it's great that it exists for those folk.