A Riff So Fast Even James Hetfield Didn't Down-Pick It?

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The-Art-of-Guitar

Күн бұрын

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@lordgluten7248
@lordgluten7248 5 жыл бұрын
0:05 Drinking. They were drinking
@skylark4901
@skylark4901 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha.....
@tpd2029
@tpd2029 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one 😂😂
@ShockMe1994
@ShockMe1994 4 жыл бұрын
Meaty Potatoes yep lol
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 4 жыл бұрын
Being drunk while playing guitar makes people better. At least for me.
@NGDemonSlayer12
@NGDemonSlayer12 4 жыл бұрын
@@H.E.M. hmm, yeah I doubt that. From my experience you play like shit, and its frustrating.
@DirkRadloff
@DirkRadloff 5 жыл бұрын
And don't forget, that James is singing while playing phantastic rhythm-guitar
@Nate-pz1rf
@Nate-pz1rf 5 жыл бұрын
Dirk Radloff true dat! Two different speeds at same time, talk about multitasking!
@kylester0055
@kylester0055 5 жыл бұрын
Siddharth but we aren’t talking about Dave Mustaine? Lol
@TwistedMind86Chern
@TwistedMind86Chern 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah .
@aeonslight
@aeonslight 5 жыл бұрын
Its so fucking hard, I don't know how he does it. Every time I try to sing and play at the same time I either sound like a dumbass or my guitar parts are all over the place.
@valtemirov4584
@valtemirov4584 5 жыл бұрын
@Siddharth well this video isn't about Dave
@chrismatorium8993
@chrismatorium8993 5 жыл бұрын
This guy’s voice is so calm it’s like listening to m my son’s pediatrician giving me instructions on how administer his medication.
@TheArtofGuitar
@TheArtofGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
Chrismatorium Grill “Now gently place the syringe in the buttock like so.”
@Qwickv
@Qwickv 4 жыл бұрын
The-Art-of-Guitar lmao
@lorenzopaulvilla1449
@lorenzopaulvilla1449 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@inhumanfilth681
@inhumanfilth681 4 жыл бұрын
Yea you really gotta softball it when you are explaining supositories lol
@inhumanfilth681
@inhumanfilth681 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtofGuitar you beat me to it lol
@andresgottardi
@andresgottardi 4 жыл бұрын
Explanation: James and Kirk: booze Lars: cocaine Cliff: weed
@twinfrogatwinfromga7547
@twinfrogatwinfromga7547 4 жыл бұрын
Jason painkillers
@aaronhennessy2136
@aaronhennessy2136 4 жыл бұрын
@@twinfrogatwinfromga7547 painkillers-Jason
@michaelhunziker7287
@michaelhunziker7287 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect combo
@Bolaz
@Bolaz 4 жыл бұрын
The perfect mix.
@kubokubo6347
@kubokubo6347 4 жыл бұрын
No lars is on anesthesia. He can barely even play
@joseolmedo6528
@joseolmedo6528 4 жыл бұрын
To reach that downpick your body must be: 8% Water 12% Blood 80% Whiskey
@TheArtofGuitar
@TheArtofGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
I wish man, whiskey makes me stop downpicking and start playing Hank Williams Jr. songs. No lie! haha
@mattreynolds4488
@mattreynolds4488 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtofGuitar you could say, you like to get whiskey bent and hell bound
@isaacmorrow7077
@isaacmorrow7077 3 жыл бұрын
100% reason to remeber the name
@jamesestrada82
@jamesestrada82 2 жыл бұрын
You mean 80% Jager…
@yendorman
@yendorman 2 жыл бұрын
Whiskey in the Jar
@standepain
@standepain 5 жыл бұрын
He used to alternate pick a lot then. Just look at the intro to Disposable Heroes from that same concert. If you want a real down picking test try playing to the 1986 Toronto show because he down picks faster than humanly possible there.
@A_Final_Hit
@A_Final_Hit 5 жыл бұрын
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
@mg682
@mg682 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Blitzkrieg was insane!
@JamesContos85
@JamesContos85 5 жыл бұрын
That's true. But disposable heros picking pattern kinda requires alternate picking because of the switching from singles to triples and back again. I can pretty much play anything hetfield does the same way he does, but sometimes that section of creeping death just needs to be alt picked so you can guarantee keeping time till the chorus where you finally get a little break.
@standepain
@standepain 5 жыл бұрын
@@JamesContos85 I'm not talking about the main riff/open e chug, I'm taking about the very beginning 6 open e notes during the intro.
@jonasstromstad
@jonasstromstad 5 жыл бұрын
F'ing hell, you weren't exaggerating. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJjGfYpqnLKFkKc)
@anthonyjackson3526
@anthonyjackson3526 4 жыл бұрын
I think James just got better from playing hundreds of shows in such a short time span in the 80s. Its only natural. He may not have downpicked everything back then, but the experience he gained after Kill em All up to Master no doubt made him 10x the guitar player he was before.
@rocafella142
@rocafella142 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what it was. Flemming would talk about how he downtuned the guitars then sped them up on the live albums because they couldn't play the songs as fast as what was intended. Then he said the next time he would see James, he could downpick the songs even faster than the album
@AnthonyB331
@AnthonyB331 Жыл бұрын
@@rocafella142interesting i read/heard fleming increasing the bpm slightly on downtuned guitars to make it tighter, not about the speed necessarily. I think he mentioned they used that technique on studio albums not the live albums. To the earlier point, i think james had an insane talent though as well and was extremely consistent live. Some of his live performances on the master of puppets tour are scary 😟. My wrist hurts just watching it.
@steve23464
@steve23464 4 жыл бұрын
So basically James practices at 350bpm so he can last the whole show.
@NGDemonSlayer12
@NGDemonSlayer12 4 жыл бұрын
he was drunk. Playing fast stuff is hard when you're drunk.
@dcdanger7597
@dcdanger7597 4 жыл бұрын
James was just that next level drunk where you become a god at everything but then are unable to remember anything
@jlnxn5374
@jlnxn5374 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Newman playing anything with complex picking can sound really bad drunk. Chords can sound amazing though lol
@Flaminbullets
@Flaminbullets 4 жыл бұрын
For some it is easier sir
@amaliosaenz23
@amaliosaenz23 4 жыл бұрын
Not when you drink all the time
@SigTheSauceMan
@SigTheSauceMan 4 жыл бұрын
But not when you're high (Blackened @Seattle 1989).
@ziggylayneable
@ziggylayneable 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 46 years old and when I was a kid I thought I was the world's biggest Metallica fan. When ...and justice for all was released,I sat in my room for weeks until I could play every single song exactly the way it was played on the album all with downstrokes. For a very long time I held the crown in my town as being the guy who could downstroke pic faster than anybody else that was in my circle of friends which was pretty large.when I got a bit older my musical tastes changed and I veered away from playing metal as much so I kind of lost that ability to downstroke so fast. But I can still play things off of Master of puppets and some of the stuff from Justice
@TheArtofGuitar
@TheArtofGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
Nice@ That's a sweet title to have.
@ziggylayneable
@ziggylayneable 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtofGuitar way back in the day it made me feel very important but now I'm more enamored with soaking as much feeling out of as few notes as possible....
@vahrzawofficialtracks
@vahrzawofficialtracks 4 жыл бұрын
Except Dyers Eve.
@richardsouk4374
@richardsouk4374 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Now 65 And When I'm 14 I Got A Guitar And When I'm 20 I Though I Thought I Was The Best Metal Fan Ever! I Picked With 563 Tempo And A Lot Of Power In My Hands But Unfortunately... I Broke My Pick But... I Have 12 More Picks!
@galenmarek8287
@galenmarek8287 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardsouk4374 what?
@TThatsWhatSheSaid1
@TThatsWhatSheSaid1 3 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair James didn't start working on his down picking until the Master of Puppets era and I think Hammerfest was in 85 (so 1 year before MoP). If you watch Creeping Death in Seattle 89 he down picks it flawlessly and INCREDIBLY fucking fast lol
@robertwalker3357
@robertwalker3357 10 ай бұрын
Kerry King and Jeff hanneman of slayer really fast at rhythm
@markusaurelius777
@markusaurelius777 6 ай бұрын
@@robertwalker3357 KK alternates a lot...IIRC..Hetfield is the down picking master, lol.
@ferox965
@ferox965 7 күн бұрын
​@@markusaurelius777 Downpicking at Slayer speed is impossible.
@caschurchwarden1432
@caschurchwarden1432 5 жыл бұрын
Did that with Iron Maiden's "The Trooper". Speed up, then slow down. That was the only way to make our band's mandolin player happy about the song. (Yes, mandolin, really).
@lt-yx1hx
@lt-yx1hx 5 жыл бұрын
I've never considered playing The Trooper on a mandolin, but now I will not rest until I hear it.
@chrismaxwell2274
@chrismaxwell2274 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you could put your mandolin player to much better use than Iron Maiden covers.
@InfinityCartier
@InfinityCartier 4 жыл бұрын
I hate mandolin players. They always end up fucking the triangle player's girlfriend.
@zackerick4753
@zackerick4753 4 жыл бұрын
@@InfinityCartier stop playing triangle.
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@zackerick4753 Yeah, he should play square
@americancapitalist3964
@americancapitalist3964 5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in behind the scenes papa het secretly up picks only.
@bobbydavis1891
@bobbydavis1891 5 жыл бұрын
👍😂 ROTFF LMMFATFO, and shit. It's funny cuz it's probably fuckin true!
@FartSniffer1
@FartSniffer1 5 жыл бұрын
Behind the scenes, he altpicks master of puppets
@Neon_Ghost1
@Neon_Ghost1 4 жыл бұрын
Lol that would be insane
@CookeAaronJ
@CookeAaronJ 4 жыл бұрын
He’s also got 50,000 people screaming and loving him, that may boost you a bit.
@KJ-fy6qh
@KJ-fy6qh 5 жыл бұрын
He’s done this forever, not every show, but in the 80s and 90s it was really common for him to alt pick it
@jeccf5072
@jeccf5072 5 жыл бұрын
The real question is can James downpick fight fire
@TwistedMind86Chern
@TwistedMind86Chern 5 жыл бұрын
Good one :) Nop he uses alternate picking :)
@hhhfff7953
@hhhfff7953 5 жыл бұрын
@@TwistedMind86Chern Cringe.
@AyoGrog
@AyoGrog 4 жыл бұрын
@@TwistedMind86Chern You posted cringe. Your foreskin privileges have been revoked.
@sausthabbirsinghtuladhar1729
@sausthabbirsinghtuladhar1729 4 жыл бұрын
@@hhhfff7953 bro why is he cringe.
@CatAttack6471
@CatAttack6471 4 жыл бұрын
Giorgos Lekapinos you’ve lost penis privileges
@ChromaticMan
@ChromaticMan 5 жыл бұрын
Cause when your Adrenaline starts to Flow and you're Thrashing all around; Acting like a maniac! ...does alternate/up-stroke picking...
@hippo71124
@hippo71124 4 жыл бұрын
Chromatic Man WHIPLAAASH
@michaelbranin7687
@michaelbranin7687 4 жыл бұрын
Chromatic Man dickrash
@pedrobagoduva1091
@pedrobagoduva1091 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Whiplash is just one of them
@lhu1961
@lhu1961 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbranin7687 🤣
@doc25000
@doc25000 4 жыл бұрын
I've been playing guitar "Mainly Thrash" for over 30 years, I find, If i can't get a faster song down, i play it slow for hours, I do that to get the feel of where my finger need to be, i do it for a week or 2, i then leave the song be, I go to a different song or something i've come up with myself and play it til i can do it in my sleep, then after all that, I go back to the fast song i wanted to learn and go thru it slow, then pick up the pace, then i usually have it down... It works for me... War Ensemble was a PITA to get down! Timing is everything, Patients is a must... Thanks for putting these vids out!
@sambrewster7090
@sambrewster7090 4 жыл бұрын
Love this guy's voice he sounds so calm and peaceful . This song would be fun too play 🤘
@iangreene8720
@iangreene8720 5 жыл бұрын
Down picking is the main staple for all my playing and writing .. love your down picking videos man..you are a machine. I appreciated your tenacity and accuracy...nice job!
@richardrichardson6816
@richardrichardson6816 4 жыл бұрын
2:43 subtitles: *[Applause]*
@82ndPhunkyPhotos
@82ndPhunkyPhotos 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that Kerry and Jeff from Slayer used mostly alternate picking, yes? I can't imagine them down-picking on a song like "Chemical Warfare". Hetfield is a down-picking beast for sure.
@ripvanwinkle2936
@ripvanwinkle2936 4 жыл бұрын
You don't downpick 16th note. They downpick a lot but on 8th note and triplets
@H2ORaccoon
@H2ORaccoon 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you downpick Chemical Warfare? You'd be a god in mortal form.
@vahrzawofficialtracks
@vahrzawofficialtracks 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you don’t downpick 16ths. That’s just not possible. It’s like that stupid rumour that Hetfield downpicked Dyers Eve. Haha!
@zeroxcrusher
@zeroxcrusher 4 жыл бұрын
Just use alternate picking. Its the most economic way of picking
@Xplora213
@Xplora213 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t imagine Slayer down picking? Dave Mustaine said Kerry was the best rhythm player he’d ever played with. Chemical Warfare isn’t that hard.... set your standards higher.
@timpiano2359
@timpiano2359 5 жыл бұрын
Something my guitar teacher taught me was that sticking those three fingers out when Down picking actually tenses up your wrist more, and if you just keep all your fingers in you can more comfortable downpick for longer
@jaeden2806
@jaeden2806 5 жыл бұрын
I've always naturally played with my fingers in, good to know it's correct!
@adamguitar1498
@adamguitar1498 4 жыл бұрын
The important thing IS to relax your hand as much as possible. Let you arm hang by your side, completely relax it, you should likely notice your fingers naturally curl up, this is their most relaxed state, and what they should be kept in. However, if you keep them exactly like this you'll also notice the spacing between them, and when picking they can sort of flop all over the place, so you want to bring them in a bit, so they aren't completely relaxed, but the feel improves. I also find it takes more effort to keep your fingers extended and together than to keep them curled and together. Anyway, either can be made to work, whichever one you choose you can be sure to find high level players that use them as well
@Neon_Ghost1
@Neon_Ghost1 4 жыл бұрын
I was the opposite, I started with my fingers like a fist, be then when I saw Het sticking his out, I did it to emulate him. But it became so natural for me I can't go back to a closed first system, and I've seen him use both styles which makes me mad 😂
@kostasmip410
@kostasmip410 4 жыл бұрын
I hold the pick with 4 fingers
@vahrzawofficialtracks
@vahrzawofficialtracks 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, it’s however you adapt and learn. It all gets efficient. Use both.
@yodaguy6956
@yodaguy6956 2 жыл бұрын
James is way too unmentioned in non-guitarist written lists of greatest guitarists, he is such a beast. Metallica is just such a huge entity I think he often goes unnoticed as an individual Nice video, very handy trick for building speed
@TheJabernet
@TheJabernet 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, in the beginning just go for it as fast as you can just to get the "feeling" of playing it at that speed, don't worry about how it sounds, then slow it down and clean it up.
@archangel5627
@archangel5627 4 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show that James really is the riff King! When you played the Creeping Death Riff with Down Picking only and then played it with alternating picking, you can definitely hear the difference in quality of the song. Now I understand why James prefers down picking even though it’s physically brutal on your wrist and forearm. I really enjoyed this video and found it super informative and entertaining! I also have to say that I really like your drum tutorial videos since I’m an amateur drummer who’s trying to build up my skills. Thank you for sharing and I’m going to make sure I check out your new content as it drops! Take care!🤘🏻
@timothyrice1621
@timothyrice1621 4 жыл бұрын
At first I read this title as "A riff so easy even James Hetfield could play it"
@lproof8472
@lproof8472 4 жыл бұрын
Creeping Death wears my arm out more than any other Metallica song, including Master.
@mrroams5812
@mrroams5812 3 жыл бұрын
What about Disposable?
@kristiansimko4370
@kristiansimko4370 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrroams5812 You can practise that and it will become normal, just like I was scared of blackened at album speed, now I play the Seattle speed easily
@TwstedLizard
@TwstedLizard 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrroams5812 really not that bad compared to creeping death that song breaks my brain and its my favorite
@pthibault630
@pthibault630 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrroams5812 Never been sure why people talk about Disposable as one of the more difficult ones. Out of the faster tracks on Puppets (Battery, Puppets, Disposable, Damage) I've always found it to be the easiest by far.
@pthibault630
@pthibault630 2 жыл бұрын
Puppets really isn't that bad either, tbh. There's a lot more quick breaks than people realize and it allows you enough of a breather every few seconds that it's not that hard to maintain. Creep is definitely more taxing, especially at live tempo.
@garethllewellyn215
@garethllewellyn215 3 жыл бұрын
This made sense..the first song I ever learned was light to flies by trivium...it took me a long time and a lot of hours daily , but it paid off because by the time I had learned to play along to the whole song I had picked up a hell of a lot of techniques and it made learning a lot of other songs quite easy I was self taught and played each part repeatedly and then joined them together, i just thought I've got few months to myself , hardly left the house and with in 6 months I was able to play master of puppets and one along to the cd.. Built up stamina, speed and quieting down the noise of other strings etc. After that I moved onto sweep picking then practicing alternate picking, sometimes 12 hour in a day , sometimes more and being injured off work made me able to dedicate every waking minute to playing.. it was an unusual method of doing it but it really worked well...after a few years Of being in love with guitar I got hurt again, I work as a tree surgeon, and having hand arm vibration syndrome i lost months of playing, sore slow fingers plus a new career to concentrate on meant years passed with out playing again.. sold my guitars and thinking now...its sad. But your videos are convincing me to start again ..thank you 😊
@meysiong
@meysiong 2 жыл бұрын
🤟
@jmhatutube
@jmhatutube 4 жыл бұрын
I heard Neil Peart talk once of being in concert shape. This was right after a 4-year hiatus Neils daughter dying in a car accident and his wife dying of cancer 10 months later. Once he decided he was going to play again, it took him months to get into the proper shape to record and then tour. I'm sure Hetfield needs to do something similar, but also, it wouldn't take long during a tour to get your arm worked up to what he does based on how many years he's been doing it. BTW - I appreciate your content. Website and Patreon subscriber here.
@kevincmarynda3678
@kevincmarynda3678 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man, Creeping Death live has always been a nightmare to play-along for me, they used to play it so fast it's crazy. However, people don't talk about Death Magnetic that often, but have you tried to play the verse of "The End Of The Line" (the "Need, more and more, tainted misery" part) only with down-picking? Man, that's harddd!
@clemensmoeller4549
@clemensmoeller4549 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I tried to learn that song once but it's really exhausting, even though I'm decent at playing other fast downpicking songs
@JCFlyingV98
@JCFlyingV98 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin C Marynda death magnetic has some of the hardest metallica riffs to play I think
@margiedelay1716
@margiedelay1716 5 жыл бұрын
Death Magnetic isn't one of Metallica's better albums, but there are some high points there if you look. In addition to Creeping Death, I really liked Cyanide. My personal fave on that album.
@margiedelay1716
@margiedelay1716 5 жыл бұрын
I meant End of the Line. Sorry!
@kevincmarynda3678
@kevincmarynda3678 5 жыл бұрын
@@JCFlyingV98 I agree, all the harmonised lead parts are pretty hard as well compared to the rest of their songs.
@BigJoeCool3681
@BigJoeCool3681 4 жыл бұрын
Hetfield was the reason I started playing. Now I consider myself to be a fast and accurate downpicker, but when you watch old videos of him it really is crazy impressive. His stamina is unbelievable. I think a part of the reason for his style though is because he plays and sings simultaneously. I do the same (I'm not even in the same galaxy as him 😂) and can speak from my own experience how downpicking kind of keeps you playing rhythmically so you can focus on singing. I can pick up and down as well, but I definitely feel more confident downpicking at a steady pace during vocal parts. Speaking of cool picking techniques, watch Dave Mustaine do sweep picking while he sings. It's actually mindblowing to watch him perform. Anyway, great video bud. Thanks for entertaining us 👍
@Yes-cm1ph
@Yes-cm1ph 4 жыл бұрын
that Les Paul Custom looks fantastic 😍
@Jallen7362
@Jallen7362 3 жыл бұрын
The whole time you are telling me to go faster than the target I was thinking Petrucci from “Rock Discipline”. I remember him doing this chromatic exercise, overshooting his goal to purposely fail, then dropping back down and nailing it. Great video! If I am playing album I am all downstrokes. If I am playing concert speed, it depends on the era of the show and if I get lazy.
@julienceaser
@julienceaser 5 жыл бұрын
Even James needs a break once and a while... that shit ain't easy.. lol
@schmittza
@schmittza 4 жыл бұрын
He needs a kit kat
@kolbyhardy6563
@kolbyhardy6563 4 жыл бұрын
schmittza have a break
@tellchoat8337
@tellchoat8337 3 жыл бұрын
I learned this trick from a Shawn Lane video probably 10-15 years ago and it significantly helped me with both speed and control. Shawn said something to the effect of “if you keep bumping up the bpm by 5 you’ll eventually hit a wall. And to break through that wall you need to go up by 20 bpm or so and just try your best. When you get back to the original bpm it will feel easy by comparison.” This practice technique works in spades (or at the very least did for me)
@junes2k
@junes2k 3 жыл бұрын
they played that fast all the while drunk, stoned & in front of an audience. pretty impressive.
@katherinecolvin786
@katherinecolvin786 4 жыл бұрын
Bro ... Love UR channel !!! I've been playing music for 40+ years and I'm always learning new stuff from ya ... really miss my drummer, he recently overdosed. We were like the blues Brothers lol Rock on man !!! 😜
@FloydofOz
@FloydofOz 4 жыл бұрын
The trick of playing it at a faster tempo and then slower works in sports and weight lifting too. It’s called the “over warm up.” If you want to lift sets of 200, you warm up with 50, then 100, then 150, then 200, then 250, then drop back to 200 for your sets. It tunes in the central nervous system.
@njudndudi
@njudndudi 3 жыл бұрын
This technique absolutely works for me when trying to build speed. I also stopped using a metronome for that because I would focus too much on gaining another BPM. Now I just play as fast as I feel comfortable with and by doing that I somehow gain speed more easily.
@rayana4250
@rayana4250 4 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of alternate-picking on Kill 'em All and Ride The Lightning. I don't remember where I read it, but James talked about how he realized that down-picking sounds heavier sometime after the release of RTL and embraced the whole down-picking technique more on the albums that followed. Also, if you listen to the original recording of Creeping Death you can clearly hear that the intro and the riff you talk about are played in alternate-picking.
@user-fi7ju4nj9b
@user-fi7ju4nj9b 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad somebody mentioned the difference in sound. I saw Judas Priest last year, first time with RF. He's great, but he played one of the classics with alternate picking instead of downpicking like on the recording, and it sounded so wrong that I wanted to crawl out of my skin. On Creeping Death, I actually like the alternate picking better, though. Don't know why.
@lepureur4657
@lepureur4657 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is really incredible, all in the details
@ronfigg1
@ronfigg1 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely learned that trick from Petrucci’s Rock Discipline! 👍🏻
@faustomadebr
@faustomadebr 5 жыл бұрын
How many billions notes per sec can you play, noob?
@LiquidShadows
@LiquidShadows 4 жыл бұрын
John Petrucci had the same advice in his instructional DVD "Rock Discipline" for people learning how to play at very high BPM's but having difficulty with keeping time. Just go way above your goal BPM, try your best to play it at that speed, and then go back down to your original BPM and it should feel much easier. But yeah, I totally agree -- "Creeping Death" is brutal on the forearms.
@TheIdiotNamedJoe
@TheIdiotNamedJoe 4 жыл бұрын
He likely just didn’t have his endurance built up back then. There’s a concert on KZbin from 1986 in Quebec where you can see him playing that same riff at a faster tempo (I think) with all downstrokes. I mean, it is a bit hard to tell because the camera isn’t as close and the lighting doesn’t exactly help either, but from what I can tell, he is doing downstrokes.
@phadrus
@phadrus 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I wrote a book on this subject years ago. The funny thing is to learn to play a song well you have to learn it well slow first, so you are not practicing mistakes. However if you are just learning to play faster whatever exercise you choose has to be played fast to build that strength and coordination-sloppy is okay here. Those two goals are completely different and require different approaches. Unfortunately, I see so many times musicians trying to learn a song and trying to do so at speed. So, they are practicing mistakes. Practice make permanent not perfect. Again, great video. I subbed. Looking forward to more.
@FPGC
@FPGC 4 жыл бұрын
If you ever want to play master of puppets at full speed down picked, practice the picking part just before the 3rd verse. If you can play that part flawless, you can start playing the entire song with ease.
@yobrethren
@yobrethren Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a pain in the butt to play this one Both right and left hands struggle!
@Taxable_Trophy
@Taxable_Trophy Жыл бұрын
Which one, the riff kirk wrote ? Or the verse riff ?
@pluto7275
@pluto7275 Жыл бұрын
James also used to alternate pick the sped up chorus riff during the solo of Seek and Destroy.
@user-us2hx3xo8e
@user-us2hx3xo8e 3 жыл бұрын
I always played this riff way too fast without realizing because I always listened to it live and now the studio recording sounds super slow
@taking8614
@taking8614 4 жыл бұрын
Going faster than the songs tempo, and then coming back down to speed, is actually applicable for Vocals too. Listen to a live show of any band that has a singer with a multi-octave voice (Myles Kennedy in Alterbridge) and you'll hear the "how you doing?!", "Whoooo!!", "YEA!!" That fluctuates between higher and lower depending on what they are about to sing. It's "priming" the vocal chords to more accurately hit those notes.
@davidmathes6730
@davidmathes6730 3 жыл бұрын
Learning old SEPULTURA songs, permanently built up my forearms overall!!!!
@DarkMatterEclipse
@DarkMatterEclipse 3 жыл бұрын
****muscle relaxation****, short strokes, practice in relaxed bursts to get the feel of it....you'll exceed 235 if you learn to ditch the muscle tension. (speed it up temporarily then back off like buddy says n everything) You'll have seemingly endless endurance too once u nail it down. There's the mental barrier too, learn to think in groups of notes til it becomes automatic to do so.....between those two aspects with all other playin' techniques, things with flow n fly. Takes practice, won't happen overnight.
@Woelan
@Woelan 5 жыл бұрын
man that guitar is beautiful
@InsideMyHouse
@InsideMyHouse 4 жыл бұрын
For years I only ever down picked. I taught myself to play, before KZbin days, and pretty much all I did was look up tabs and sat for hours trying to play them. Years down the road and I learned about alternate picking. Took me awhile to get it down but it has improved my playing a lot and it allowed me to starting playing leads but this is ancient history now, like 15 years ago, but still to this day the songs that I learned only down picking still feel more natural than when I try to alternate pick them
@drdre4397
@drdre4397 4 жыл бұрын
His rythym parts are even harder with singing. Sandman is a beginner riff, try to sing and play that
@mikesgtrs1
@mikesgtrs1 4 жыл бұрын
Singing and playing guitar at same time is extremely hard. I Cant do it , i can do the odd back up here and there , but not a full blown whole song
@russkate88
@russkate88 4 жыл бұрын
Just to clear things up, anything shorter than an eighth note such as a riff with sixteenth notes will entail alternate picking as will eighth note triplets. Whereas any riff that uses eighth notes or notes longer than eighth notes will just use down picking. Acoustic or clean tone guitar parts such as the interlude to Master of Puppets or Fade to black will mix it up.
@NicklasNylander87
@NicklasNylander87 3 жыл бұрын
Lars is off by 30 bpm. What a great drummer.
@vicw2663
@vicw2663 3 жыл бұрын
No thrash band plays shit live at the tempo on the album.
@tellemstevedave5559
@tellemstevedave5559 3 жыл бұрын
@@vicw2663 🤘creeping death is always better live
@PC85X
@PC85X 3 жыл бұрын
You're nailing it with great content at a high output, lately! I know big names get the views to help keep you in business, but can I kindly (if not, cheekily) request a bit of Type O Negative or The Smiths content? My two music loves right there. Anyway, keep up the awesome content. Cheers from Wales!
@jimb7816
@jimb7816 3 жыл бұрын
Even dime said no one plays Rythmn like James!!
@jpetes9046
@jpetes9046 3 жыл бұрын
Man I don’t even know what your vid was about, all I could concentrate on was that beautiful Les Paul
@orvilleredenpiller338
@orvilleredenpiller338 4 жыл бұрын
This guy who’s video I clicked on randomly: “So Let’s go up to 250.” Metronome: U WOT M8?
@jonginder5494
@jonginder5494 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Mick Cocks from Aussie rock band Rose Tattoo. Song: All the lessons. Live at Reading rock festival circa 1981 - this song is something like 400 downstrokes per minute - correction - 440. This guy was epic.
@Mischu708
@Mischu708 5 жыл бұрын
I always alternate picked that part because the downstrokes really tensed me :(
@bacsivalaki8687
@bacsivalaki8687 7 ай бұрын
He did it in Toronto in '86 ;) and they played even faster than usual
@FormedUnique
@FormedUnique 3 жыл бұрын
I learned from metallica songs and developed the james down pick only technique and it actually made learning other artists much harder when i had to alternate pick multiple strings
@WWTormentor
@WWTormentor 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I’m even watching this. I’m 50 and trying to learn the guitar and having one hell of a time with it already. Don’t need this kind of video to bring me down even more!
@girishpatel5366
@girishpatel5366 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Kirk keeps up live too!!
@เบนเร่งสมบูรณ์
@เบนเร่งสมบูรณ์ 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, they were still learning, still new, some of the pioneers of fast metal, over time they’ve just mastered their trade and gotten better.
@samueljorge3171
@samueljorge3171 5 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing for that part so now I feel less bad about alternate picking
@michaelfoley906
@michaelfoley906 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a guitar teacher and a lot of the backing tracks for the different songs for exams are slower than the original song - for example, Walk This Way is a grade 4 song but the backing track for the exam is a decent bit slower than the original to make it more appropriate for a grade 4 player (can't remember the exact speeds sorry). I've used this trick for years to help students - try practising it at the original speed and the speed for your exam will be a cake walk! Cool to see someone else saying the same thing!
@ABZer0x_x
@ABZer0x_x 4 жыл бұрын
People: *talk shit when you don't do alternate picking* James hetfield: Hold my pick.
@leathercoatguy
@leathercoatguy 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip on the tempo changes to get up to speed. It's probably something I've done in the past subconsciously, but it's nice to be aware of it and utilize it, rather than stumble into it.
@TVoltG
@TVoltG 5 жыл бұрын
Papa Het can play this and toss one off so fast he would never miss a beat..
@sydhamelin1265
@sydhamelin1265 Жыл бұрын
A lot of what's discussed on this channel reminds me of what made my brother a great guitarist. I do remember in high school, he was one of the only guitarists who could actually play Metallica properly, with the downstroke technique.
@azula2399
@azula2399 5 жыл бұрын
Just When I thought a g chord was hard
@kevinr.3542
@kevinr.3542 4 жыл бұрын
U should change your g string
@Ae0liann
@Ae0liann 4 жыл бұрын
Look up Killing Is My Business tabs
@bt3743
@bt3743 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinr.3542 i dont think you realise the g string is not played with an open g
@trockeneiscreme7713
@trockeneiscreme7713 4 жыл бұрын
@@bt3743 What? haha
@pkepix5405
@pkepix5405 4 жыл бұрын
It's not though
@flavy1000
@flavy1000 5 жыл бұрын
That was a great idea...never thought about it, to play faster than the real thing, and then go backwards to the point...even for bass, or singing.I dare say! Thanks a lot Mike!
@kuzan-steele2043
@kuzan-steele2043 5 жыл бұрын
This is the only riff he's ever written I cant play with out alternate picking it just sounds shit if i play it like him.
@prometheustv6558
@prometheustv6558 5 жыл бұрын
Blugpin oh
@thereverse-flash9942
@thereverse-flash9942 5 жыл бұрын
Oh
@Fin2001
@Fin2001 5 жыл бұрын
Blugpin Dyer's Eve down picked?
@Carbon2861996
@Carbon2861996 5 жыл бұрын
One: Am I a joke to you?
@alone2break
@alone2break 5 жыл бұрын
@@Carbon2861996 one is relatively easy compared to this..
@slothitwonder1015
@slothitwonder1015 4 жыл бұрын
I usually start around 240 tempo to warm up down picking, then to 260 down picking mixed with up-down picking... then down below 240 so I don’t cramp while continuously playing, always good to stretch the fingers and bottom side of the wrist before playing
@didi_abdillah
@didi_abdillah 4 жыл бұрын
Studio : 204 BPM Lars : Let's up the tempo live
@murheimsyrt9777
@murheimsyrt9777 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed when I was with this same question "he is not doing all downstrokes on metal hammer fest, sep 14th 85" Now go half a month earlier, day on the green, aug 31, 1985: he does most downstrokes, only by the end of the main riff he does upstrokes (thats the usual way I've seen him playing in several gigs), but I think only for that part and some power chords because "he feels" like hitting some "upstrokes" (on the "so let it be written" part)
@Dylanm94
@Dylanm94 5 жыл бұрын
I thought they played that alternate picking on the studio as well? I sounds kind of alternate picked, if that's a word.
@miguellopez106
@miguellopez106 4 жыл бұрын
I am a guitar teacher; speed comes with time. Yes, you can do some tricks, but the goal is doing it at ANY time, even Without warming up... so you have to be patient and NOT increase speed until the one you are working with is Easy to play. Otherwise you'll get injured or worse! You'll be practicing mistakes and spoil the slow tempo progress. That's my 2 cents opinion. Over 30 years of experience working this way and NO problemo. Cheers and good to see you Sharing your thoughts. Thanx!
@satevo462
@satevo462 5 жыл бұрын
My hand simply cannot down pick fast. Just can't do it. 30 years of playing guitar and I've accepted that whatever it is about my arm wrist and hand, I'll never be able to down pick fast.
@wilma7612
@wilma7612 4 жыл бұрын
Pathetic
@ryanduray1
@ryanduray1 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. You're not alone on this one.
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 4 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I can’t downpick really fast. I started off early.
@fafh716
@fafh716 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you’ve been practicing poor technique? Or not practicing the proper things. That’s super common even with guitar vets. Just a thought
@gabrieledomingosjardim5358
@gabrieledomingosjardim5358 4 жыл бұрын
Try starting with 90 bpm on metronome and go speeding up everyday
@coupesclips2926
@coupesclips2926 5 жыл бұрын
I use this very same technique with video games. Start with a super-high sensitivity then move down - that way high sensitivity seems lower. Happens if you play your first Fifa game as a 2 star then play as Real Madrid or something. Same technique back in the day on Guitar Hero too. Great video this.
@srenladegaardkristensen1076
@srenladegaardkristensen1076 4 жыл бұрын
0:49: is this actually a drum fill😂
@dontneedtoknow5836
@dontneedtoknow5836 4 жыл бұрын
I might be a little late and no I did not learn this by guitar and can't do it with guitar. Only use the amount of force necessary at an explosive point on your wrist and use your elbow on the rest of the movement. Very quick changes in motion but only changing the direction enough to miss on the upstroke. Draw at least 5 changes in direction in your muscle memory and stop thinking. This part requires you to stop thinking and it has to become instinct.
@metalpuppet5798
@metalpuppet5798 5 жыл бұрын
My guitar teacher saw them in '93. He was in the first row and said he clearly saw him alternate picking puppets :D
@thehunter7422
@thehunter7422 Жыл бұрын
Definitely gonna keep this technique in mind. Getting my downpicking speed is one of the main things i wanna do when i start playing guitar, Hopefully can start this week depending on when i get the Guitar from my Dad's place, he's also gonna give me some tidbits along the way as well since he's been playing for decades . I'm mainly a drummer but I've been wanting to see how far my guitar skills can get up to for quite some time now. Curious to see how i do
@SyzygyEmbrace
@SyzygyEmbrace 5 жыл бұрын
When I was 15 and started playing I used to do down picking most of the time, I got pretty good at it, but when I started getting lessons from an actual instructor I realized how much character alternate picking adds to songs. Looking back made me realize, how the f@ck was I downpicking so fast, I can no longer do it lol
@michaelvigil1417
@michaelvigil1417 4 жыл бұрын
Another great upload...Creeping and Blackened, two faves of mine
@lefor.michel348
@lefor.michel348 5 жыл бұрын
Is he Glenn from the walking dead ??
@TheSectric
@TheSectric 5 жыл бұрын
Do you say that about any Asian person because he really doesn't look like him at all.
@benparsons4979
@benparsons4979 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSectric I think he does a little
@saint1802
@saint1802 4 жыл бұрын
it helps if you hold the pick closer to your index knuckle. gives more grip and more control
@TheJerseyNinja
@TheJerseyNinja 5 жыл бұрын
This is how I’ve gotten my down picking to the point where where I can play Master of Puppets perfectly with no issues and can even play Blackened at 215 bpm and just being able to hold on to stay on beat. Just a strategy I kinda figured out did on my own but it totally works
@FartSniffer1
@FartSniffer1 5 жыл бұрын
good job m8, blackened is 198 BPM in the album I believe
@OwlKnight32
@OwlKnight32 4 жыл бұрын
Very honest playing good sir. You’ve earned a like.
@tree267
@tree267 4 жыл бұрын
Listen up. John Cusack knows what he is talking about.
@MetalGuitarist18
@MetalGuitarist18 4 жыл бұрын
Love the 1.14mm purple Jazz III! I burned through a couple of em jamming to Lamb of God a couple years back and went back to playing the 1.38mm black Jazz IIIs. Also check out "What if Creeping Death was on ...And Justice For All!" on KZbin! The dude recorded the whole song at 1988 Live Metallica BPM and he even did the "Blackened" version of the verse riff!
@drewjennings9572
@drewjennings9572 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he didn’t downstroke Dyer’s Eve either.
@cooperjamesphotography15
@cooperjamesphotography15 4 жыл бұрын
You need to check out Creeping Death live in Toronto Canada 1986, it's crazy fast and James down-picks the whole song!
@TroyDurrance
@TroyDurrance 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Ramone was the MASTER of downstroke... PERIOD!
@VortexArcade
@VortexArcade 5 жыл бұрын
I don't always down pick on a Les Paul, but when I do, I use a String Butler to keep it from falling apart! lol. Great video, as always!
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