A Rivalry Born from Violence: Brighton vs Crystal Palace

To outsiders, the only word for the M23 derby is “strange.” Because, despite being in different cities, having a short history together, and rarely competing for trophies, Brighton and Crystal Palace form one of the EFL’s fiercest rivalries. The story between these two sides appears to be one born from necessity. To see what I mean, be sure to watch the whole video. We will take a deeper look at this rivalry, including the history of the M23 derby, how the M23 derby impacted fans and football culture, and how these two sides match up head-to-head.
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⏱ Timestamps
00:00 Why Brighton and Crystal Palace Are Rivals
01:02 The Mullery-Venables Era
02:26 The Point Of No Return
05:02 Brighton vs Crystal Palace Highlights
06:09 Standout M23 Derby Players
08:44 Modern Day Rivals
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ℹ️ Primary Sources
- Why are Brighton and Crystal Palace such fierce rivals (tinyurl.com/2xd6m5nd)
- The Palace v Brighton rivalry explained... (tinyurl.com/4kwp46h6)
- Crystal Palace vs Brighton rivalry explained... (tinyurl.com/4pb88x9c)
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[@culturefootball]

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[@terryb8310]

No Palace or Brighton fans call it the M23 derby.... Massive fail to call it that .... a Sky TV fail!

[@oceanmike8516]

A23 not m23

[@AlphaDaxter1]

what do they call it?

[@terryb8310]

@@AlphaDaxter1 At Palace we don't call it anything....its just a rivalry ! We hate the Weed!

[@terryb8310]

@@oceanmike8516 Its not called A23 anything !

[@CabbageBloke]

@@AlphaDaxter1 It’s a rivalry not a derby. Not a single fan from either club will call it a derby.

[@kuen-wahcheung1863]

Quite a good overview. Some important omissions, though. You missed out the 'FFS Murray' moment when Palace handed Brighton their first league defeat at the Amex with Glenn scoring. Plus Henry Hughton ending Gerry Ryan's career, with his brother Chris ending up managing the Seagulls. And the pre-season 'friendly' that kicked things off when Palace fans caused havoc on an unsuspecting seaside town. And how 'Seagulls' became Brighton's nickname after Eagles became Palace's.

[@TheSeafordian]

NO Brighton fan considers Murray as their best ever player.

[@nickwhite1182]

Bob Zamora for me

[@oceanmike8516]

Are you sick? Zamora, Dickinson and Vincente are ahead of him for me. In the premier league? Glenn Murray for sure.

[@Blueblackfire]

Keep it up! This channel will definitely grow!

[@andiboiiii1954]

Great video can’t wait to see the future of this channel

[@MapleLeafsarecanadasteam]

Great videos, with this quality your channel will grow quick

[@ayno6891]

great series great channel keep up my friend

[@DavolafShorts]

great video! i see this channel growing fast

[@juliuscaesar8163]

love your vids!

[@wrexham2]

The rivalry started well before the game at Stamford Bridge, I was at the original tie at the Goldstone and it was already alive and kicking. M23 derby is just silly, as we nearly always went by "Special" or another train. Charlton have just as much a rivalry with Palace, it's just we have difficulty meeting them. Mind The Gap.

[@A2G37]

great channel lad are you gonna do only english club rivalries or teams from other leagues too?

[@culturefootball]

I'll cover other leagues as well. Vote on the next video tomorrow in the community tab!

[@user-yc4lq8uo9o]

Hi mate good video. Can you do the Tyne Wear derby next please

[@yoclickz353]

Great video mate keep it up! You should do Millwall vs West Ham, probably one of the most fierce and violent rivalry in English Football.

[@culturefootball]

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll keep this in mind.

[@yoclickz353]

@@culturefootball Thanks bro!

[@GlimpseHC]

Millwall are scum

[@evonne_o]

It is the most violent as I found out when I was working as a Millwall football steward in the late 90s /00s. I was almost attacked by West Ham because I was working at Millwall even I support Arsenal...Also could include Leeds fans as they hated any one who is associated with Millwall on any capacity.

[@yoclickz353]

@@evonne_o Milwall fans are just different man, crazy level of Hooligans! 🤣🤣

[@SirNilooo]

Club America Vs Chivas de Guadalajara 😁✌🏽 Awesome content by the way! Shoutouts from Los Angeles!

[@pineapple2285]

Roy’s thankfully brought us back, also never heard the term M23 derby before, interesting.

[@Cheeseatingjunlista]

Why Roy is so great cannot be explained by science, he must be, and I thank facts prove he is, simply fucking Magic. Sod Hgpwarts, the REAL wizards in SE25!!!

[@joshrobson2119]

@@Cheeseatingjunlistastill back this now fella 😂😂

[@kevina9094]

Before Brighton, Millwall would have been the main rivals for Palace (even though Millwall dislike West Ham more). Even today there's many palace fans who still consider Millwall as their main rival seeing as they are the closest club to palace.

[@Cheeseatingjunlista]

I live in Peckham, half way between em, you're one or the other really, Palace or a C*nt, its up to you

[@notgaryhart1312]

The M23 doesn’t run from Brighton to Croydon, but the A23 does. It’s not the M23 Derby!

[@niclin22]

Schalke - Dortmund next!

[@Der_Kaiser1871]

Perhaps Leeds vs quite a few clubs? There's a reason over 1/3rd of the clubs in England chant 'We all hate Leeds scum', and as a Leeds fan myself I think it'd be a great video. Also very underrated channel, loved this and the North London Derby video. Keep up the good work!

[@culturefootball]

That's a good suggestion! Who do you think your biggest rivals are?

[@Der_Kaiser1871]

@@culturefootball Maybe not too reciprocal from them, but definitely Man Utd. Some of the Yorkshire derby's like Huddersfield or Sheffield also up there. Chelsea too.

[@GlimpseHC]

@@Der_Kaiser1871 also hull

[@Der_Kaiser1871]

@@GlimpseHC True, forgot Hull. That rivalry even extends to Rugby as well with the Leeds Rhinos and Hull FC/Kingston Rovers.

[@GlimpseHC]

@@Der_Kaiser1871 it’s an underatted rivalry which people hate on but when se play you it is a good rivalry hull fc and hull kr are main rivalry in rugby but I guess Leeds aswell

[@timbhaovard1327]

Tommy Cook is the top scorer with 123 goals

[@ankushkar3364]

W vids

[@rebekahleech5354]

❤️🦅💙

[@prod.by.marshyyy]

can you do wone with luton and watford! (m1 derby)it is derby day tomorrow ! come on luton

[@culturefootball]

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll add it to the list. Make sure to vote on video topics in the community tab.

[@cal-efc8062]

2:50 Goodison Park

[@stripey_nigel]

Hmmm, quite a few errors here, especially the pic of Gareth Southgate taking a penalty in his England shirt supposedly at Stamford bridge in 1976😂

[@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart]

And now look at us the seagulls vs the eagles in the premiership league the only other clubs that had a fierce rivalry was West Ham and millwall although there’s a chance to see them face each other again if West Ham get relegated this season

[@paulwyatt3772]

It's not the M23 Derby that's what sky tv have said.

[@NorthamptonEagle]

This isn't and will never be a Derby.... It's revaily and I think you find that both Brighton & Palace will say that too!

[@alliancekoh]

Learn how to spell 'rivalry' before telling us the meaning

[@dailotan]

No, zaha is not palaces second highest all time scorer - he’s 10th. May want to avoid referring to sites like transfer markt

[@KaizoCPFC]

Is he?! Who’s above him then???

[@KaizoCPFC]

Where do I check?

[@daavide]

this channel is gonna be sick

[@josiahgreen-moth4820]

Do west ham millwall

[@culturefootball]

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll add it to the list. Make sure to vote on video topics in the community tab.

[@Alfie.08]

liverpool and everton?

[@culturefootball]

A classic rivalry. Definitely going to cover it in the future.

[@Raef125]

Maybe do Barcelona and Real Madrid

[@culturefootball]

Thanks for the suggestion! El Clasico short coming out today!

[@shmiqqy]

don't think you've done your research properly you keep calling it the m23 derby, the m23 derby isn't strange to outsiders, it's stupid to "insiders" too, brighton doesn't even have the m23 it's the a23 we don't even have a motorway and you put zaha on the thumbnail but not lewis dunk for brighton? did you only put march because he's a bigger name at the minute?

[@culturefootball]

If you’re curious about my sources, they are linked in the description.

[@user-gy7og5yh2s]

Did he say palace dont have any other rivalries 😂😂 what about Charlton and millwall??

[@hctaylor279]

Murray isn’t our best ever player, that would be dunk, knockaert, Bissouma ot Peter Ward

[@rickycook1967]

Turned this off after you said the rivalry started in 76 , it started in a pre season friendly in 73 , at least check your information and not spout more 76 nonsense .

[@culturefootball]

You might want to watch the video again

[@paddygladman9923]

Very true, I was in the northland when palace wanker got in there

[@cheifwhat]

As a Palace fan, I would suggest that Palace Brighton is perhaps one of the least fierce rivalrys in all of football, globally. It's pretty much just for the telly. I quite like Brighton at the moment and hope they get top four.

[@culturefootball]

Do you think that's a recent thing or do you think it's generally not fierce?

[@alfiegrove7233]

its better than most southern rivalries or derbies, shite compared to rest of europe.

[@BT-sj9su]

Your joking🤣🤣

[@jjrc7424]

@@culturefootball don't listen to him i'm a palace fan and it's a massive rivalry, he's clearly never been to one of the matches

[@pineapple2285]

@@BT-sj9su you’re*

[@smmm6691]

rivalry has definitely died down with younger fans caring less. also palace vs charlton was always a bigger game

[@ManUtdfanshavetinypenises]

Palace and Brighton is a rivarly. It's an ego thing and loads of these fans don't even go to games

[@PHTV11]

It's bigger for Brighton than us simply because they have no local rivals of relevance.

[@pauljamison4450]

what a load off bollocks it started 2 years before that.

[@TheLittlegoaty]

As a Palace fan I don't really care too much about Brighton and the "rivalry" that's been manufactured. I'd rather lose to Brighton than the other London clubs.

[@CARLIN4737]

AAAAAAAAAAlbion.

[@CARLIN4737]

AAAAAAAAAAAAlbbbbbion...

[@cglees]

The rivalry exists because of the Victorian exodus from south London to Brighton when the train line was built.

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

This is rubbish because it's misses out the Playoff semi final poogate incident.

[@KaizoCPFC]

Oh my god i forgot about that

[@AJFootballOFFICIAL]

Liverpool and man city are not rivals

[@ManUtdfanshavetinypenises]

That I can agree with

[@KaizoCPFC]

There like, friendly rivals. Always competing with eachother and the managers have a rivalry but the fans don’t have any issues with eachother

[@mattwright9485]

Brokeback derby.🤣🤣 Get out of his back side.

[@Chris-yx8gj]

Brighton were never rivals with Crystal Palace. Their rivals are Portsmouth. OK. That statement comes from a supporter older than most fans nowadays. So yes Fake Fake Fake.

[@stuartb1963]

Chris your clearly not a Brighton supporter Pompey have never been our rival's for them it's the saints and no Albion supporter I've ever met considers Pompey to be our rivals

[@shmiqqy]

lol why would portsmouth be our rivals they've got their own thing with saints

[@Chris-yx8gj]

@south saxon Check your football history. Why Portsmouth. Because they historically were in lower divisions. Portsmouth spent lots of time in the Second division while Brighton spent a lot of years in the third division. Argue with me at will. Because I know I was there.

[@stuartb1963]

@@Chris-yx8gj sorry you weren't and don't know what your talking about I'm a third generation Brighton supporter and started attending the Goldstone in the 70s

[@timphillips9954]

I first saw the Albion in 1972 and we never saw Pompi as a rival, but we or I have always hated Palace!

[@muzza2096]

Rangers celtic is a huge one