A Serious Review of Metal Gear Survive in 2024...

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@ThePhxRises
@ThePhxRises 3 ай бұрын
"Because apparently AI can be infected by a parasite" "so it turns out the dust is actually nanomachines"
@LewdSCP1471A
@LewdSCP1471A 3 ай бұрын
Metal Gear Solid
@BeretBay
@BeretBay 3 ай бұрын
Metal Gear Solid
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 3 ай бұрын
Nanomachines, son.
@Wylchelm
@Wylchelm 3 ай бұрын
Metal Gear Solid
@SephDerg
@SephDerg 3 ай бұрын
Metal Gear Solid
@vagabanda11
@vagabanda11 4 ай бұрын
Hot take. Think re-using assets should be a common practice. If developers used the Extra time, to improve other areas of the new game. Instead of just saving time and money.
@ChillGuySammy
@ChillGuySammy 4 ай бұрын
@vagabanda11 Rgg with Yakuza series proves this works
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it 3 ай бұрын
hotter take. every big corpo reuses assets since 2012 :)
@lemurtheory9350
@lemurtheory9350 3 ай бұрын
while this game just seems like the bad taste of cannibalization and lazy rehash with no improvement, I do agree in most cases companies should just grab what they already have and slightly improve on it and check what can be added in new stuff. like fromsoft did with the souls/born games leading to elden success.
@stealthynaxo
@stealthynaxo 3 ай бұрын
They already do that. If anything, it makes games look even more flawed when they flop.
@SohoS.S
@SohoS.S 3 ай бұрын
@@vagabanda11 wait for him to know about the 80pb asset bank
@Purrtoes
@Purrtoes 4 ай бұрын
man became a top-tier game reviewer to hide the fact that he didnt finish the lego star wars skywalker saga
@Nombrenooriginal
@Nombrenooriginal 3 ай бұрын
He what
@Swagodactyll
@Swagodactyll 2 ай бұрын
@@Nombrenooriginal BECAME A TOP-TIER GAME REVIEWER TO HIDE THE FACT THAT HE DIDN’T FINISH THE LEGO STAR WARS SKYWALKER SAGA
@uoyrofetihwot
@uoyrofetihwot 2 ай бұрын
This the funniest comment if true 😂😂😂
@Sithis211
@Sithis211 11 күн бұрын
I dont blame him the Lego star wars games are trash. So is minecraft and almost every pokemon game unless you have a weird super love for them like sped people seem to.
@Swagodactyll
@Swagodactyll 11 күн бұрын
@@Sithis211 so brave, so edgy
@AliG200
@AliG200 4 ай бұрын
Not sure if you've experienced it because it wasn't covered in the video, but the game actually tries to tie itself into MGSV in one more way, through a short alternate ending, which I'll put under a read more/spoiler warning for those who care, lol. | | | v Just after you send Chris through the wormhole and you start going back to the final big wave defence, you can actually turn around and choose to go through the wormhole too. Your character goes back to their timeline, and is shown waking up in Afghanistan wearing full MSF combat gear, just like the various wandering MSF soldiers that you can recruit in MGSV. It then lets you reload straight back to before the choice, so you can continue the game as normal. Unfortunately if you miss it, you have to replay the entire game again up until that point to trigger it from what I can remember.
@muffetmissulena6540
@muffetmissulena6540 4 ай бұрын
No. Since the game has chapter select, you can just start again from the worm hole.
@ijxssie
@ijxssie 3 ай бұрын
@@muffetmissulena6540 just so you know, this was BEFORE they added chapter select.
@Bluezexmas
@Bluezexmas 3 ай бұрын
Dude I cannot believe I didn't discover that !
@thememe-museum8669
@thememe-museum8669 3 ай бұрын
I think I saw something like this a while back actually, the ‘Infection’ could also be the parasites since some of the skulls are fairly crystalline in design at some points
@JAA_007
@JAA_007 3 ай бұрын
I actually discovered that and found it a clever tie in
@callumrolston
@callumrolston 4 ай бұрын
If I had a nickel for every popular Japanese game series that created a poorly received zombie themed spinoff I would have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice Yakuza Dead Souls if you’re wondering
@maiastniki
@maiastniki 4 ай бұрын
onechanbara. school girl zombie Hunter. edxero zombie uprising. deadcraft. theres many my account balance is a bit more than two nickels as I love these
@seb24789
@seb24789 4 ай бұрын
Ninja Gaiden Z? Have one more.
@ReiSyre62
@ReiSyre62 4 ай бұрын
Lollipop Chainsaw (I know it's famous and sold well but a lot of people don't like the direction of the character or even the combat.
@boxtank5288
@boxtank5288 4 ай бұрын
Least Dead Souls didn't kill the FRANCHISE.
@ReiSyre62
@ReiSyre62 4 ай бұрын
@@boxtank5288 as long as there people want to replay soulsborne type of game including Elden Ring, that game genre never fades to existence. (Not to mention people wanted Bloodborne sequel let alone Bloodborne out from PS4). Same to KINGSFIELD
@CerealKiller
@CerealKiller 4 ай бұрын
The only issue with this game is that it tries way too hard to tie itself to the MGS universe when it clearly should've been an original IP.
@custardgannet4836
@custardgannet4836 4 ай бұрын
But then nobody would have bought it without the IP recognition! Hell nobody bought it anyway 🫚
@Meehuuu
@Meehuuu 4 ай бұрын
This is my take as well. I really liked MGSurvive, its just a terrible _Metal Gear_ game.
@dansmith1661
@dansmith1661 3 ай бұрын
@@custardgannet4836 It was a weak seller, but sold more than certain AAAA games.
@Herodotus888
@Herodotus888 3 ай бұрын
That is definitely not the only issue. The speed at which everything drained, stamina, food, water, fuel etc. with the game notifying you nonstop about all of it was unbearable.
@brajuhani
@brajuhani 3 ай бұрын
@@Meehuuu So is MGS 4 and 5, I don't get your point...
@AuramiteEX
@AuramiteEX 4 ай бұрын
The story is so ridiculous that it must be 100% canon. MGS Survive. The real MGS6
@Ike_of_pyke
@Ike_of_pyke 3 ай бұрын
Nah it should be the 5.5 like how PW was the 4.5 , the captain and their team should find their way back "home " but discover this is a world where John never embraced the big boss legacy or he and Eva were killed during the gap between 3 and peace walker , a world without snakes or bosses and they are the only ones aware of what it means but there's still metal gears developing and weapons being made that need to be stopped.
@Sapphire_Eye
@Sapphire_Eye 4 ай бұрын
About eating/drinking items that have a chance to give you abnormalities: The first time you do, i believe it's guaranteed you will not get sick, the second time you do, guaratees you will, every time after that it's a very small chance to actually get sick. I haven't played in a long while now, but i think this still applies, if i'm not misremembering, making the risk of getting sick after the guaranteed one basically negligible
@maiastniki
@maiastniki 4 ай бұрын
@@Sapphire_Eye yea i barely ever got sick playing and i never had to use food that could make you sick either
@TheKazuma410P
@TheKazuma410P 3 ай бұрын
I got water infections way too often for that to be true.
@Sapphire_Eye
@Sapphire_Eye 3 ай бұрын
@@TheKazuma410P Yea i revisited the game since then, it seems that changed in the time i haven't played, though it seems infections have a cooldown until they happen again
@devonwilliams5738
@devonwilliams5738 4 ай бұрын
I was expecting a critical thrashing, but being nice to games everyone hates is also good sometimes.
@scott2100
@scott2100 4 ай бұрын
it just occured to me that this is the first Metal Gear game with a bow, how has there not been one before this?
@notcole
@notcole 4 ай бұрын
It would feel right at home in something like MGS3 huh? ...looking at you Delta.
@SiveenO
@SiveenO 4 ай бұрын
Because as cool as they are, Bows are not a good weapon on a modern-day battlefield. Granted, the same could be said for most melee weapons.
@ground5295
@ground5295 4 ай бұрын
@@SiveenO on a battlefield, yes. behind enemy lines? it can be extremely good. after all, they're silent and have tons of versatility. you can dose the head with poison, you can have an explosive charge as the head, etc. for a non-lethal option, you can have the arrows be dosed with a sedative.
@zjackshot
@zjackshot 4 ай бұрын
@@ground5295 wouldn't a mini crossbow do all this and be much more efficient training and space wise?
@hadesmadedat
@hadesmadedat 4 ай бұрын
@@ground5295 not in real life bro
@Amiculi
@Amiculi 3 ай бұрын
The game really 'starts' in the post game, the multiplayer is wild and there's a HUGE amount of gear of higher quality tiers of loot and stuff. It's a shame it isn't more doable solo, it IS but it's really difficult.
@angelovromanov3165
@angelovromanov3165 2 ай бұрын
@@Amiculi insane that post game has so much more content after dozens of hours. Who designed this crap lol
@MGrey-qb5xz
@MGrey-qb5xz Ай бұрын
it's just ok, don't know where this wild stuff is coming from
@BDL42096
@BDL42096 4 ай бұрын
These are my2 biggest issues with the game. 1. The fact that you can't play this offline is stupid, which means eventually you will not be able to play this game ever again. 2. Gross micro transactions is beyond gross. The fact you have to pay 10 dollars to unlock more character slots when monster hunter world, which came out a month prior. Had three character slots for free. This could have been popular if Konami hadn't attached the metal gear name on it.
@dannyinthemiddle969
@dannyinthemiddle969 4 ай бұрын
The game was only $40 at release while Monster Hunter World was a full priced game at $60.
@BDL42096
@BDL42096 4 ай бұрын
@dannyinthemiddle969 still doesn't justify the 3 additional character slots for 10 bucks. That's 30 dollars alongside the 40 bucks you spent already.
@hvn_gng
@hvn_gng 4 ай бұрын
@@BDL42096 Why would you at all need to make multiple characters when you can do EVERYTHING with one?
@BDL42096
@BDL42096 4 ай бұрын
Have both male and female characters. Also builds potential is the main reason why I like to make multiple characters
@hvn_gng
@hvn_gng 4 ай бұрын
@@BDL42096 You can restart a New Game + with all your items and a completely new avatar.
@floreroafloreril1458
@floreroafloreril1458 4 ай бұрын
The game was pretty hard to get wrong. The FOX Engine may be the best third person shooter system to this day. The worst part? Konami has that engine hostage. Fuck Konami.
@hbk4570
@hbk4570 3 ай бұрын
and they only used on PES...
@user-bw4jm1bv1i
@user-bw4jm1bv1i 3 ай бұрын
It feels like Kojima had some notes written up for the new MGS, then he was let go, Konami made Survive with said notes, Kojima made Death Stranding with the same notes, as well as refining and expanding on these initial ideas.
@F7Horror
@F7Horror Ай бұрын
Damn, that's a really interesting overstation.
@coolio6855
@coolio6855 4 ай бұрын
0:58 You're telling me we were robbed of playable Gray Fox AND an MGR sequel for this? I'm even more angry now
@molassesman4066
@molassesman4066 3 ай бұрын
A zombie but in control of his own mind grey fox would be so cool
@ElGato6969.
@ElGato6969. 3 ай бұрын
mgrr was not a good game tho
@molassesman4066
@molassesman4066 3 ай бұрын
@@ElGato6969. that is blatantly incorrect hate bait lol
@coolio6855
@coolio6855 3 ай бұрын
@@ElGato6969. Good Lord with no new games they're losing their minds 😭
@akoyash9964
@akoyash9964 3 ай бұрын
​@@ElGato6969. 🪝
@tyranus1111
@tyranus1111 3 ай бұрын
Every sentence sounds like a question
@akoyash9964
@akoyash9964 3 ай бұрын
youtuber cadence
@anonymous_user525
@anonymous_user525 3 ай бұрын
I hate the modern world so much it's unreal
@ChapterXii
@ChapterXii 3 ай бұрын
@@tyranus1111 Fuck this video is an hour I can't watch it not 🫠
@gruntingskunk2237
@gruntingskunk2237 3 ай бұрын
Wow, okay.
@tyranus1111
@tyranus1111 3 ай бұрын
@@gruntingskunk2237 more like Wow okay?... because everything has to sound like you asking it? And then you bring it back down to an answer. And then you ask another question? And then you answer the question. And then you have another question thats actually a statement? And then you answer your statement question.
@trucctrucc245
@trucctrucc245 4 ай бұрын
it's here. the finale...
@LuisVega-so3tt
@LuisVega-so3tt 4 ай бұрын
So bittersweet
@Necrom6
@Necrom6 4 ай бұрын
For now, Delta will come out eventually
@Aussie_Tom
@Aussie_Tom 3 ай бұрын
As a huge Metal Gear fan, I liked Survive, but it should have really been it's own thing, and if anything it shows the Fox engine makes for a great survival game engine.
@perfect.stealth
@perfect.stealth 2 ай бұрын
It is its own thing, just a Metal Gear themed one. This games only mistake was its timing. Trust me, any game after the Kojima Konami split would have failed. It's just a spin off, and not even Canon like Rising, but everyone seems to love that for some reason, even though it had nothing to do with MGS gameplay wise.
@F7Horror
@F7Horror Ай бұрын
​@@perfect.stealth "This games only mistake was its timing" Yeah, not the fact that it was an incredibly underwhelming and low-effort cash grab that charged the player for additional save slots... 😂
@ThatDudeCurtis6
@ThatDudeCurtis6 4 ай бұрын
As someone who has played Metal Gear for more than 30 years i appreciate your reviews and the honest feedback about survive including referencing the fact Kojima literally wanted to make Zombie games and has been including those elements for years. Survive was never a bad game, it just got caught up in the hatred and anger surrounding Kojima’s firing and MGSV being unfinished. I wish you had gotten to play the multiplayer because that’s really when the game is at its best and most fun, including being able to pilot Metal Gears against the bosses. Thanks for the time and effort of your review. Welcome to the fandom
@TheCXRSIN
@TheCXRSIN 4 ай бұрын
Hey new metal gear solid fan here, should I get survive or does it not work anymore?
@francesco3772
@francesco3772 4 ай бұрын
@@TheCXRSIN it does but you might want to get into an, may Allah forgive me for writing this, online community to find people to play with.
@grph1t3z
@grph1t3z 4 ай бұрын
It’s a bad game dude..
@illegalonsunday6838
@illegalonsunday6838 4 ай бұрын
@@ThatDudeCurtis6 I agree the multiplayer is really fun. It’s the best way to get resources too. I still play it, when I can find other people playing that is.
@ThatDudeCurtis6
@ThatDudeCurtis6 4 ай бұрын
@@grph1t3z youve never played it
@agroed
@agroed 4 ай бұрын
Man, I didn't notice it until you pointed it out but you definitely do have that very consistent Minnesota upward inflection in your speech. It's definitely not as prominent on the streams, though. Regardless, congrats on finally capping off the series! I'm really glad I found your channel. It's been a fun ride. I'll definitely stick around to see what series you're doing next.
@notcole
@notcole 4 ай бұрын
you can take the man out of Minnesota, but you can't take the Minnesota out of the man 😅
@zbaksh101
@zbaksh101 4 ай бұрын
my headcanon is the random soldiers you have to recruit in sideops are the characters that got sucked in the wormhole. If they do another post MGS4 era game, Im hoping Goodluck pops up as a supporting character. nice work on these video essays.
@clearmountain28
@clearmountain28 4 ай бұрын
Actually, he could appear almost anywhere in the timeline. He was what, 10(?) when he was sent back and 30-40 when the motherbase incident happens in ground zeroes. Means he must have landed in history like 5-10 years before MGS3. And that would make time about 65-80 in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.
@ayochill9716
@ayochill9716 3 ай бұрын
I wrote this game off for a couple of years, then randomly grinded it for like 2 months straight lmao, the multiplayer was actually pretty fun and it had a cool community!
@illegalonsunday6838
@illegalonsunday6838 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the honest review. I got the game when it released. I still play it some now. I would like to say it does tie in to the main series if you go in the wormhole after Chris. You become a wandering mother base soldier. Also the co op is the best part. It is pretty much dead though. Me and some people still play the co op regularly if you ever want to join. They are the best part. But thank you for giving the game an honest chance.
@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK
@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK 3 ай бұрын
I need people to play it if anyone wants an extra man, can't be bothered with the stress of solo'ing Extreme missions, it's mad boring alone This video got me to install it again
@illegalonsunday6838
@illegalonsunday6838 Ай бұрын
@@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK I’m down to play anytime
@Linksays
@Linksays 4 ай бұрын
It's kind of sad that you didn't even mention the secret bad ending or try to meet up with those who still play the game, in Co-op, but I do understand the constraints you had. Thank you for giving a fair review of the game as well! I only had a little bit of time due to me using an Xbox, but the time I had in Survive's Co-op is genuinely some of the most fun I've had online.
@Linksays
@Linksays 4 ай бұрын
I forgot to say, but. I do have a minor problem with the fact that you commented on Virgil becoming infected being off. Dread Dust was formed via medical nanomachines, which still can be programmed. Also, something cool about the co-op mode is that there are actually rotating events based on various periods of time in the franchise where you can actually get cool costumes and cosmetics based on various things. i.e. MGS3 where you can summon the Shagohod and dress up as Naked Snake or The Boss and MGS4 where you can summon MG RAY and even dress up as MGS4 Raiden. MG REX also being the sole pilotable MG in the game is hella awesome.
@dansmith1661
@dansmith1661 3 ай бұрын
Or the jellyfish boss. I am just glad the barrel eater got some screen time.
@primary2630
@primary2630 2 ай бұрын
Having to beat the game more than once probably put a stop to that
@dansmith1661
@dansmith1661 3 ай бұрын
Got over 200 hours and got pretty much everything at that date. Even had some glitches that gave out five digits of resources that kept me going until I finally got tired and moved on. The best moment was CQC the Tracker and using moves that let me clown it. It still had QTE for barehanded combat.
@CheddarGetter
@CheddarGetter 4 ай бұрын
I wish this game's survival mechanics would be expanded on within a snake eater meets MGSV type game.
@perfect.stealth
@perfect.stealth 2 ай бұрын
So... MGS Delta
@dannyinthemiddle969
@dannyinthemiddle969 4 ай бұрын
I actually liked Survive even when it came out. Had a blast playing the multiplayer with a friend. My favorite part was exploring Dite and finding items to upgrade my survival capabilities. Unfortunately I hated the tower defense sections and never even beat the single player because of that. It's works in multiplayer but I don't want that in my single player.
@quademasters249
@quademasters249 2 ай бұрын
The tower defense part was annoying. I like Survive in spite of the tower defense.
@112523
@112523 4 ай бұрын
If they had some constraint they wouldnt have released a game with the mgs name shortly after the thing with Kojima happened. It might actually have stood a chance
@karbengo
@karbengo 4 ай бұрын
Kill zombie, get cubano sandwich. Understood.
@odiumgeneris729
@odiumgeneris729 4 ай бұрын
I am one of the eight people that had tons of fun on this game. It was unfairly judged before it even hit release shelves because of all the drama that everybody already knows about. The fact of the matter is, people missed out on a really fun multiplayer experience. I've been saying it since the day it came out. I can only imagine what they would have added to this game if there was an online player base. Every once in awhile, I will still log on. Finally, it's also pretty clear that at least some of the mechanics of this game were on The Cutting Room floor from Metal Gear Solid 5. On some level, Metal Gear Solid 5 was supposed to have survival elements like snake eater, and again, because of reasons we already know, they couldn't be placed in that game. *Do you really think that zoo we were building on the Diamond Dogs base was really just for viewing animals?*
@odiumgeneris729
@odiumgeneris729 4 ай бұрын
Oh, I forgot to mention, the game is deep as hell. If it wasn't for the forward operating base section of the phantom pain, Metal Gear survive would actually be deeper than that game. How about that?
@tiltedlampshade
@tiltedlampshade 4 ай бұрын
Kojima had some really ambitious ideas for MGS5. There was rumors floating around on how much Kojima burning through his budget and Konami had to step in. Now I wonder how much more Kojima needed to release the game with his ideas intact.
@odiumgeneris729
@odiumgeneris729 4 ай бұрын
@@tiltedlampshade yup. We would have had what we got, plus the online section, plus the fob, plus survival elements like survive plus chapter three of the story, and God knows what else.
@gowary
@gowary 4 ай бұрын
COPIUM
@odiumgeneris729
@odiumgeneris729 4 ай бұрын
@@gowary I'm not here to argue with somebody that probably never made it out of the hobo phase, if he played it at all. You can have the last word.
@LifeZer0
@LifeZer0 4 ай бұрын
re using assets should be a standard for major games to make a couple spin off games, like they did with the far cry series
@mark-o-man6603
@mark-o-man6603 2 ай бұрын
MGS was underrated because of the Kojima drama, Zombie fatigue and comparissons to the OG series..people hated it before the game was even out. It's actually a bold concept and crazy genre mix with an admittedly flawed execution. Let's see: survial, tower defense online + offline, base building, story mode, the first single player extraction shooter, looter shooter.... I wish more devs would try something like this. I'd give it a 8/10.
@QMMarc
@QMMarc 4 ай бұрын
Idk if you came to the conclusion later, but man, it's so very obvious that Kojambo left a post-it with certain ideas that would then take the form of Death Stranding, there are so many odd similarities, not deep ones, they both go for completely different stuff, but it's hard not to see it. And honestly? This game ain't bad, it never was, people were sore about Kojima, and zombie game fatigue and, of course, bad Konami practices including how they handled save slots. But at it's core, it's a cool take on tower defense and survival gameplay, it's not for everyone, but it's also a really good entry in the genre.
@notcole
@notcole 4 ай бұрын
I still haven't gotten around to playing Death Stranding, but a lot of people have been saying similar things in the comments about the similarities which definitely makes me curious🤔
@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK
@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK 3 ай бұрын
MGSurvive and Death Stranding are equally as good games 7/10s nothing special and nothing ground-breaking, just solid good games with many flaws I'm just mad we got Death Stranding 2 instead of Days Gone 2, Days Gone was better for sure and it seems most people agree
@Majorx93
@Majorx93 4 ай бұрын
I really did enjoy playing this game. I’m glad someone finally giving it a fair review, instead of playing the game when already made their mind that they hate even before starting.
@alvarodiamzon5069
@alvarodiamzon5069 4 ай бұрын
Every Metal Gear Solid Game Aged like wine, including revengeance. Funny thing is, I consider myself a gamer and I played a bunch of games under my belt. Other franchises including Uncharted, RDR, Fromsoft, DMC, GOW, Metroidvania, you name it. But my God! I always come back to MGS. IMO nothing comes close, epitome of gaming. Nice review as always!
@playerplus5917
@playerplus5917 4 ай бұрын
I see you got a good taste in gaming. I can recommend Yakuza, Halo and Ace Attorney if any of these might pique your interest :)
@mathinho1237
@mathinho1237 2 ай бұрын
@@playerplus5917 he is just basic
@quademasters249
@quademasters249 2 ай бұрын
I had a decent amount of fun with this game. Its a game I could play again. In fact, I'm more likely to play it again over "Phantom Pain" because there's no unskippable intro. It has a real conclusion too. It was good specifically because it used all the mechanics from "Phantom Pain"
@thomasmeglasson228
@thomasmeglasson228 3 ай бұрын
Seems like a lot of the end/after game stuff should have been worked into the natural progression of the main game. The microtransaction issue and the fact that things got saved for post-game make me think some money-grubbing higher-up influence helped wreck what with a bit more time in the oven could have been a great game.
@quademasters249
@quademasters249 2 ай бұрын
I've played it multiple times an never spent a penny on microtransactions. I guess I don't understand the hate for optional microtransactions.
@erueka6
@erueka6 Ай бұрын
​@@quademasters249 yeah played twice once few years ago on ps4 and again a few months ago on PC stores were already closed not one cent used it was a really fun game and I'm kinda mad it got gutted by butt hurt fanboys and garbage KZbinr reviewers.
@quademasters249
@quademasters249 Ай бұрын
@@erueka6 My take as well. It's was fun. I could play it again any time. It was probably a mistake trying to ride "metal gear" on a game so far detached from metal gear.
@toryunaminosaki1022
@toryunaminosaki1022 Ай бұрын
honestly, having a side mission you can do, to upgrade a walker gear to last longer, and change it's equipment..might have made the end game a bit more engaging
@om_ikis
@om_ikis 4 ай бұрын
Are you going to review Death Stranding as a Bonus?
@scott2100
@scott2100 4 ай бұрын
@@om_ikis like seriously, it might as well be set in the future of the MG games
@TrueGaming140.48
@TrueGaming140.48 4 ай бұрын
I pretend this was a vr mission, atleast then it ties into the series a bit more... maybe a vr mission that gray fox went through. Also if were being honest the grind on phantom pain when it came to upgrades at mother base took too long imo.
@zsweetxdreamzz8224
@zsweetxdreamzz8224 4 ай бұрын
I like that reminds me of a fan fiction I read where every event after V was a simulation for solids and Raidens training against cipher/patriots it was basically a snake/big boss circle jerk but if you consider the multiverse it makes sense
@christianventura9698
@christianventura9698 4 ай бұрын
Great job on all mgs videos. Glad you enjoyed the ride! It was a fun journey to watch.
@AddOn-x2u
@AddOn-x2u Ай бұрын
Hey, totally forgot about this games existence
@777tuber
@777tuber 3 ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me what game is shown at 2:31 ??? Is that from MGS1's VR missions?
@notcole
@notcole 3 ай бұрын
that's "Metal Gear Solid Mobile" :)
@777tuber
@777tuber 3 ай бұрын
@@notcole Thank you!!
@jakemac5535
@jakemac5535 3 ай бұрын
He’s not a know’er
@captainjihad
@captainjihad Ай бұрын
This game taught me to not pre order games without watching a release review on YT
@Rockport1911
@Rockport1911 3 ай бұрын
Yeah this game didnt pan out so great, they should have taken the ressources to " finish" MGSV, may tag on a zombie if they really had to...
@Ashamedofmypast
@Ashamedofmypast 2 ай бұрын
@@Rockport1911 lmfao. That old mgsv isn't finished chestnut is such a dumb thing to perpetuate.
@StarPilot87
@StarPilot87 4 ай бұрын
1:01:04 Maybe it's possible someone could make a pirate server for the game, like making a patch that redirects to something other than the official (eventually dead) server. One of my favorite online only multiplayer games has a pirate server that they put up a few times a month.
@notcole
@notcole 4 ай бұрын
It's pretty common nowadays! Regardless if Konami does or doesn't put out an offline patch, fans will always find a way :)
@synicalfutilist4890
@synicalfutilist4890 4 ай бұрын
Wonder if Konami got the rights to Larry Fishburnes likeness
@notcole
@notcole 4 ай бұрын
okay so it's not just me 😂
@timmygilbert4102
@timmygilbert4102 4 ай бұрын
Mgs without heavy philosophical subtext just feel a bit empty
@APotatoMan
@APotatoMan 20 күн бұрын
Every time I see Survive I always think "That looks fun, but not really like Metal Geat." Its also super cool to see them bring back some old mechanics that were missing in MGSV
@AyBee9725
@AyBee9725 3 ай бұрын
Watching your video on this makes me think Survive was designed to be more of an MMO than anything. This game feels like Once Human in terms of survival mechanics
@xxSoliderDudexx
@xxSoliderDudexx 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I thought I would never wanna try this game but after watching the video and gameplay it does kinda look intriguing I might actually pick it up today since it’s on sale
@notcole
@notcole 4 ай бұрын
as a wise man once said: "If it looks like your thing, and it's on sale, it might just be your thing" 😂
@stitchfan08
@stitchfan08 4 ай бұрын
I still had fun playing the game with other people
@Ravum
@Ravum 4 ай бұрын
I wanted to play this when it came out but it being online only kept me from buying it. Thank you for covering the story. I wish they would have released an offline version.
@winns35
@winns35 3 ай бұрын
Me and my nephew played through this together. We actually had a decent time and is well worth it if it's on a decent sale.
@Harvick1
@Harvick1 4 ай бұрын
Good vid. The biggest downside to this game is the very slow progression in the first half of the game. I could see how people bowed out early. Go and watch reviews from when the game released. Almost none of the reviews' gameplay show beyond the first couple of 'tutorial' missions. Movement is slow, dealing with Wanderers is too tedious, the hunger system is a little too brutal for most people who aren't used to survival mechanic games. But the mid to late part of the single-player is pretty fun once you build up your stamina, unlock gardening and animal farms and gain access to more weapons. There's strategy to exploration and multiple choices to make in terms of progression: you can go search already-explored areas for more respawned supplies, explore the unknown to find hidden goodies, press to the next story-progression event, do some online matches to unlock far superior loot and resources, go farm Wanderers for Kuban to level up or do a base dig for special unlocks. The only drawback is the monetization is a bit overbearing. Game tries hard to get you to spend money to speed up some of the in-game timers and unlocking additional exploration units. To me, this hurt the game more than anything else. The multiplayer was extremely fun when you could get a full squad. Frankly, it was the best mp of any Metal Gear game. Again, lot of strategy, get a ton of loot and there's a lot of fan service to it. Nothing like doing the hard or extreme missions and calling in Metal Gear Ray to wipe a zombie hoard. Survive features the most diverse set of Metal Gears in any MG game: Rex, Ray, Shagohod and Sally. Unlocked all the special uniforms like Naked Snake, Eva, The Boss and Ocelot skins and gestures. Wish we had unlockabes like that for MGSV:PP. Speaking of, this game and PP are prime examples of the correlation between expectations and enjoyment. I had more fun playing Survive than I did playing PP because I had way more expectations for PP than Survive. PP was so boring and disappointing to me and Survive was semi-mindless fun. And I say that as an old dude who's played MG games since the 80s. I wish there was a cult following for it. I miss the multiplayer.
@bluebroham
@bluebroham 3 ай бұрын
Solid information, very well put together, however the odd cadence of the speech with the constant upward inflections was incredibly distracting. I found myself focusing on that instead of the words being said.
@BossFight101
@BossFight101 4 ай бұрын
Ah, so Death Stranding Design is what we would have really had in MG Survive. Much better lore than what we ended up with. Also, the inventory system from Death Stranding would have been a part of this and would have been way better. This just furthers my disappointment with this game. Imagine how much more fun it would be with the mechanics and animations of carrying cargo the way we do in Death Stranding, would have been so much fun... Its best I just stay away from this game to avoid being pissed off
@GhostGhost-
@GhostGhost- 3 ай бұрын
Wish the mods were more creative but they definitely make the game more playable
@thalesmacedo6972
@thalesmacedo6972 4 ай бұрын
I brought the game last month and liked and plus meet some nice people who helped me on the extraction missions of course it's not a full metal gear game but it's a nice if u like mgs and want a chill game to explore
@bochiimane
@bochiimane 3 ай бұрын
I just wanna know who came up with the idea for this game
@geoffreymillennium-maximus4140
@geoffreymillennium-maximus4140 3 ай бұрын
Well if you took a look at the exaggerated big 2nd V in the game's logo, you should instantly know that there is a relationship between MG Survive and MGS V
@GregglePoof
@GregglePoof 2 ай бұрын
C’mon now love, Delta is not releasing this year
@PixelleHearts
@PixelleHearts 3 ай бұрын
The only good thing I can say about it is that it actually incorporated a *solid* melee system that was severely lacking in the series. We've had stun batons, machete, and swords before, but having multiple melee weapon types was kinda neat for how short lived they end up being once you start to get firearm crafting. The fact that they added a combo system to melee means they could have done it for 5... or at least retroactively added into 5 with free DLC or something. Also, having Masahiro Ito come back from Silent Hill to design some weird otherwordly post-game bosses was a nice little addition. They could have just made a game completely around killing aliens if they wanted to.
@TheMegamaster44
@TheMegamaster44 2 ай бұрын
I personally don't consider closed time loops to be cannon to a greater narrative cause they generally have no impact on each other.
@NGEvangeliman
@NGEvangeliman 3 ай бұрын
I think the design flaws are probably due to lack of time and resources. it was a rushed project fueld almost entirely by asset reuse.
@gimpscam9976
@gimpscam9976 3 ай бұрын
What is the music in the background? Reminds me of disco elysiums track with measurehead or the field autopsy.
@redscience2117
@redscience2117 4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the alternate ending
@stardrago7908
@stardrago7908 4 ай бұрын
fair play i thought this one wouldn't be touched.
@notcole
@notcole 4 ай бұрын
We came this far, had to complete the collection 😂
@stardrago7908
@stardrago7908 4 ай бұрын
i would have flipped the scars but i love the headcanon so far
@stardrago7908
@stardrago7908 4 ай бұрын
Great video, and i'm tempted to play it on the ally and leisurely play it now but chris and good luck are likely the only reason i'll play it. i put it off cause kojima loyalty but it sounds like it will be ok for a spread out play though.
@breakfasttaco
@breakfasttaco 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I don't think you played Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions
@hillhank1275
@hillhank1275 4 ай бұрын
Congrats on how far you've gotten with this MGS video series!
@eddyhardz5404
@eddyhardz5404 Ай бұрын
Damn good review here. It took me a while to realize that I wasn't a Metal Gear fan, but a Kojima fan. The care and effort on intricate details that he puts into his games are unprecedented. You can tell the immediate differences when playing a Metal Gear game that he did not specifically direct. They're not bad per se, but they cease to provide that masterful experience. Take the PSP for example. You had Portable Ops/Plus, then Acid, then Peace Walker. I can assume everyone will be able to guess which one was directed by Hideo Kojima... even if they were unaware prior that he was only involved in one of the aforementioned titles. Kojima's new niche nowadays is providing a looping cinematic experience prior/after mission objectives that capture minute eventful situations (Venom Snake sitting in the helicopter and looking at Quiet for a certain amount of time, Sam Bridges and the many interactions that can be experienced just by going back into his quarters and messing around in there, etc). No "pause" moment in the story is left unchecked w/o something that can be discovered. This same attention to detail is just not applicable with Konami at the wheel. They simply tried to Joss Whedon a franchise that was built and created by James Cameron. Not bad... but not authentic in the least.
@trentondean4606
@trentondean4606 2 ай бұрын
I love the game. It has a small cult following of us who still play co-op.
@LordOfPais
@LordOfPais 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, as someone who never really played Metal Gear games, but loved zombie games, Survive was a ton of fun! I think if it had come out before Kojima split, or long enough after that people didn't assume it was an attempt to tarnish his rep, or even if it just didn't have the Metal Gear title attached to it at all, it would've done MUCH better. I can't think of many zombie games that allow you to quickly and seamlessly plop down a variety of defenses on the go; most are either limited to certain locations or require you to open a cumbersome menu first that doesn't work well mid-combat. And the almost TD-focused gameplay was another thing that made it stand out among zombie games. Base defense was a dime a dozen, but as you pointed out, it slowly evolved beyond simple base defense in a reasonably organic way.
@Aerynolae
@Aerynolae 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, I really wanted to like this game. I actually played it up to the holdout mission before getting sent to the Africa map. I just could not get myself to continue because of the obvious grind, predatory mtx, and the lack of people playing multiplayer. Not to mention my PS Plus was only a couple weeks away till it expired and I didn't want to renew it anymore. This was around 2020.
@ItzRainyBoy
@ItzRainyBoy 4 ай бұрын
This is the end huh, shame, i watched thru all of your videos, must say, you're pretty good. Now we wait for MGS Delta
@mandrews6282
@mandrews6282 4 ай бұрын
I found your channel because I’m also playing every MGS game leading up to Delta. Previously I had played and finished MGS2 on the PS2, and absolutely loved it, but that was about it. I took a break from gaming for much of the 2010’s, coming back during covid and playing catch up. When I played Death Stranding I had only heard of Kojima in passing and knew little about him. So I came in not a fanboy, and without the baggage that came with the Konami fallout. Honestly it was not the disaster people made it out to be. If you love Phantom Pain and it’s mechanics, you’ll probably have fun with this game. It has some good ideas and recycles the rest. And from what I understand Konami only sold it for 30 bucks which is some real restraint for Konami. I also think this was all they could do with the IP. A standalone experience as a new narrative driven game would have been the real slap in the face to Kojima’s legacy. It doesn’t feel malicious or a cash grab. When a creator signs away their IP rights this is what they sign up for. It being so soon is what likely made it feel so much worse. That being said, it’s not the greatest game I’ve ever played and it’s the worst Metal Gear game. But I didn’t hate my time with it. I was honestly happy to jump in with MGSV’s core mechanics in a new game again. I don’t think it would be remembered today, but I think a lot of people would have enjoyed this at launch that never gave it a shot. And given it’s the last piece of new Metal Gear content we’ll ever see, we’re far enough removed now that it’s well worth a dive if you can find it on sale or are looking for something to play. I get the sentiment over how that whole thing went down, but the game itself is way overhated. And the creature designer of Silent Hill (the guy who made the iconic Pyrimid Head) designed the monsters here, which is pretty cool.
@dokutah7374
@dokutah7374 3 ай бұрын
I can’t remember if it was a demo or what at the time, but the game honestly felt really good as a tower defense without the need for food management Like the multiplayer was actually fun, then they made it so you were required to use your own items from the story in the multiplayer in the full game
@HiguraGainishigi
@HiguraGainishigi 2 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe with the game is that you can't really start a new game. You retain all of your blueprints and audiologs and other collectibles when starting over, so why would you bother with a new game when they hand you everything? There's zero way to completely wipe progress if you want a fresh take on the game.
@jt54
@jt54 4 ай бұрын
Great neutral take. Thaks. I would love an experience sum up video at the end of this retrospective, to touch on the whole story and how the whole holds together after having played all of them.
@twinswords79dualblade84
@twinswords79dualblade84 4 ай бұрын
This was such a great personal retrospective series, I’m gonna miss seeing new entries of this video series but thanks for the wild ride and I’m glad you’ve become a big MGS fan just in time for Delta Konami is really going all out for this game franchise this decade making it the absolute BEST TIME to be a MGS fan!
@gimpscam9976
@gimpscam9976 3 ай бұрын
I just wish the maps were bigger. The first one is pretty decent but beginner and the second is almost linear. I don’t think either maps do the game justice.
@Anon-gq4xw
@Anon-gq4xw 4 ай бұрын
Since you're speaking from a new player's perspective I suppose it's fair to mention that the story mode was an afterthought to Survive. The main point of the game was the co-op mode. Which you didn't get to experience which is a very big shame because it is the best part. It is also remarkably varied because of what you said with subclasses too. There was also cool tech like the leg sweep being able to kick mortar's grenades back or away from the digger. And also since you didn't experience it, Co-op could get really cool because you could summon iirc, MG Ray, Rex, Geckos, and one more as a support ability. And fighting along Metal Gears if even for one massive attack or not, I have yet to experience again in another game of this or a similar genre.
@MultiWolfLink
@MultiWolfLink 2 ай бұрын
I have no issue reusing assets. I have MAJOR issues with konami's practices and choices
@CommissarJimbo
@CommissarJimbo 3 ай бұрын
I remember playing through Survive in 2018, and just really enjoying it. Something about, being able to loot, and mish-mash Soviet and African equipment and develop a sort of headcannon for the person you was playing struct me creatively at the time, and I ended up just playing through it whilst listening to Bill Burr podcasts. I can't remember a single second of it. But, Naked_Jimbo lives on in my screenshots.
@Medical_Device2853
@Medical_Device2853 4 ай бұрын
ey, you survived!
@RezaQin
@RezaQin 3 ай бұрын
I really liked the MP component of this game but it never got new maps or support. Sad.
@StoneAgeWarfare
@StoneAgeWarfare 3 ай бұрын
Really did not expect this to be a time travel game of all things.
@optimalzeromus
@optimalzeromus 4 ай бұрын
Naked Snake:”…..a little bit of…Heaven? Outer Heaven?!” DUN DUN DUN DUN SNAAAKEAAATERRRRR
@DavidCartoon
@DavidCartoon 4 ай бұрын
Well done. It’s been quite interesting getting a younger person’s outlook on the Metal Gear series. Thank you for putting it together.
@oldsk0ol
@oldsk0ol 2 ай бұрын
Not shortly after release. Kojima was let go BEFORE release, hence the game being unfinished.
@PaintballMask
@PaintballMask 3 ай бұрын
my headcanon is that kojima had a huge hand in the gameplay elements. it's so similar to death stranding
@the_shaq_attack
@the_shaq_attack 2 ай бұрын
The most horrifying part of all of this is learning at the start that Kojima was thinking of making MGR2. We were robbed, ROBBED I SAY
@Rising-Shine
@Rising-Shine 4 ай бұрын
Never got far into the story yet, partly because i suck lol, partly because other games released that had priority. I think im just after saving the nurse, one day i get too my backöog and hopefully finish it.
@BreezyBeej
@BreezyBeej 3 ай бұрын
Why in the world would subclass options NOT BE IN THE MAIN PART OF THE STORY
@aliekexie8467
@aliekexie8467 4 ай бұрын
I played the beta way back when, and my problem with the game was the ''survival'' mechanics, the constant need to feed yourself and the constant notifications like an over baring mother telling you to have dinner. And the nail in the casket for me was not the microtransaction to have more save slots, but the constant internet access to play the bloody game.
@gimpscam9976
@gimpscam9976 3 ай бұрын
I don’t recall those being implemented in the beta. You were just in the multiplayer room. You didn’t get food or earn food just clothes and weapons. I could be wrong but the cooking station and another one were useless in the beta since it was just that room.
@aliekexie8467
@aliekexie8467 3 ай бұрын
@@gimpscam9976 Are you sure? Cause I remember experiencing the opening, it couldnt have been a hallucination, right? Damn, now Im questioning my sanity
@KevynYurihOliveira
@KevynYurihOliveira 3 ай бұрын
So you're telling me we could have had Rising 2 with Gray Fox and Konami said "bu-bye"? WHAT?!
@Antifrost
@Antifrost 3 ай бұрын
I don't doubt that the negative press around this game when it was first announced likely stopped a lot of people from playing it who might've otherwise enjoyed it for what it is. Some of that coverage was warranted, though I think ultimately it suffered from coming out at the wrong time - with Kojima's departure, it'd be impossible to shake the impression that Konami was just trying to make a cash grab with his series. I'm kinda reminded of the negative perception that Metal Gear Rising got when it first came out, where people weren't a fan of its radically different tone and gameplay, but it's now become a fan favorite. I don't think this game would've had the chance of rising to Rising's level of popularity (pun partially intended), but I'm a player who's often disappointed by the lack of real defensive battles in games. More often than not, the game will tell you "hold out for a while" but it'll just be the same sort of battles you've been fighting up to that point, but under a timer. The way you described some of the base defenses here, I could see myself having a good time with the game.
@asturias0267
@asturias0267 3 ай бұрын
I would totally play this if it was completely free, playable offline, had 3 friends that also played, and the timers were completely removed from the game. :P As it currently stands though, I'll never play it. Kind of a shame cause its not terrible and could be fun. I'm not willing to spend money on it though.
@LordFlaggy
@LordFlaggy 3 ай бұрын
Survive was a game that I liked but know for a fact I would have potentially loved if they weren't calling it a Metal Gear game. It should have been its own IP with more development and less asset recycling.
@JinTekyta
@JinTekyta 3 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed your honest looks at the Armored Core series, as a big fan of that series. So I think I'll watch the Metal Gear ones too. Thanks for your work.
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