A SICK OLIVER 1650- Can we heal it???

Here I work on a customer’s 1650 that has an issue where it won’t stay running. 
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[@robertgaylor7881]

Supposed to make everything run cooler

[@danw6014]

Points used to last me ten years. The first tractor I ran into that I couldn't get points to last more than a few hours was a 3020 Deere then a Super M Farmall. Now they're just Chinesium garbage. We put electronic ignition in that 3020 about 25 years ago and never had to touch it again.

[@pagrainfarmer]

You might have to go on the road with this healing power with you. I can see large gatherings of tractors brought to you for help. You did a good job diagnosing the problem with the electronic ignition. Also, I enjoyed watching you working on the wiring behind the dash. That is my weakest area and I learned some things by watching. Great video.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Maybe I can come to PA and do a tent revival 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks Charlie!

[@pagrainfarmer]

@@rosstheoliverman Well, that's a great idea. We'll team up you and my buddy - Reverand Mechanic Joe, you guys will be a hit out there laying hands on tractors (Or people will want to "hit" you! ) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnkissack5295]

Ross I have my dads 1650 he bought new in 1966 it was our big tractor for some years so work hard and it always run hot . It still is very snappy and lots power for 1650.

[@rosstheoliverman]

That’s great you still have it!

[@user-is1cb5me8v]

great job

[@davidakridge2831]

Oh Man, we said live dangerously at the same time.....LOL!!

[@rosstheoliverman]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jamesguralski5156]

Merry Christmas ⛄🎄

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks James! I hope you had a good Christmas as well!

[@donaldwallace7934]

Very informative and fun to watch as usual. Looking forward to the next installment!

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Donald!

[@dougn5604]

The laying of the hands and beseeching intervention from the apostle Sam White was a repair technique I had never seen before. I will use that technique as it is by far my best bet at fixing anything!

[@rosstheoliverman]

I’m sure other mechanics are angry for me giving away the trade secrets like this.

[@choreboy3906]

If anyone can...you are really entertaining! If the Oliver Corp.would have had you, they would still be around.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Dan!!!

[@michaelsheeder148]

Thanks Ross you always seem to have most interesting experience working on stuff. Thanks Michael 😊

[@rosstheoliverman]

It always seems to happen to me 🤣🤣🤣

[@earldoubet8062]

Are neighbor has a 1600 gas he brought it to me said it been running not hot but warmer then before. Checked all the normal things came to the answer was poor fuel octane he just was running ethanol blended fuel he called his fuel guy they brought him 87 grade fuel . Was getting there 94 premium fuel , drained old fuel put new in ran just fine . It also would vapor lock with the other fuel when hot. From turkey creek farms be safe n thankful

[@rosstheoliverman]

I believe it! This “cheap” fuel is awful. It’s obviously mostly water and it gets worse the longer it sits. I miss the good old days.

[@patrickpigg4132]

I installed the pertronics electronic ignition on my 1650 years ago. Absolutely love it.

[@rosstheoliverman]

I think when they work, they work great. I have one in my old car but I don’t know if they’re worth the cost or not especially if they start acting up.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Our Lady of Perpetual Spark recommends points. Can I get an amen? As to running hot... I can't explain it, every 310 I have will run towards the hot side of the gauge, unless I leave the radiator cap loose enough that it can't build pressure, then they run fine. If I tighten the cap back down after it is up to temp, it will stay running cooler. My best guess is the pressure somehow slows coolant down or redirects it. I have the cap loose on the 1655 and it runs fine as well.

[@rosstheoliverman]

Amen my brother. The spark will set you free!!! I’ve tried almost everything. On my 1655 I even tried it without a thermostat and then tried it by restricting the flow even more than the thermostat just to see if it was moving too quickly. It’s a strange puzzle and it never did that before the last rebuild. I just sort of wrote it off as some scientific stuff about the properties of the alloy of metal they used that I don’t understand.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

It needs a resistor like they put on the 2050s and 2150s. Don't like the reading, change it!

[@rosstheoliverman]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris it’s sort of the just print more money solution but for temperature gauges…..

[@steveschumacher5470]

I use the pertronix when I have to, but I agree that they should be higher quality. The points that I get now seem to oxidize almost overnight

[@rosstheoliverman]

I know, I think the quality of the point material is worse than it used to be. They corrode in no time if you leave them sit.

[@neilweber6338]

We put electronic ignition in our 1555 more than 25 years ago and haven’t touched it since.

[@rosstheoliverman]

That’s good luck! I have never had results like that.

[@robertgaylor7881]

Wet water from vice grip garage coming in a red bottle i think

[@rosstheoliverman]

I’ve used that stuff before. It works OK.

[@troybankey1766]

God love yah man, love the videos

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Troy!

[@paulprillwitz9901]

😁

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks for Watching Paul!!

[@1friplease]

Yeah Ross I just rebuilt my 88 with the overboard kit and it ran warm and I just took the thermostat out of it solve the problem no 15 Acres with it with a 10-ft bush hog with no problem 80 90°

[@1friplease]

Mow lol

[@rosstheoliverman]

I tried that, still ran hot on mine.

[@ollie-lk5dx]

Acrrding to temp gauge my 1550 runs warm, My 1650 doesn't. Both have been overhauled. The 1650 around 75or so and 1550 in the 80's both done at the same dealer. Most 1650 make more HP than they are supposed to.

[@rosstheoliverman]

That’s what I figured it had something to do with was the overbore kit but maybe I’m one of the few people that has this problem.

[@tomharrington1393]

👍👍🧑🏽‍🔧🧑🏽‍🔧

[@rosstheoliverman]

Thanks Tom!

[@JohnBryant-qc5zg]

👍👍👍

[@sterff8990]

I have pertronix kits on all my Farmalls with distributors. I haven’t had any issues knock on wood but, I do think the design on that tractor needs some improvement though. Could you just run a ground wire to that plate?

[@rosstheoliverman]

You could but the big issue I have is that it wouldn’t stay in one place. Every movement changes the timing slightly. I hope my solution fixed it. You’ll see that in the next episode.

[@slickdoglong3669]

I think there junk to brother I put a new point distributor back in this one runs perfect I had one in my camaro didn't last no time

[@rosstheoliverman]

I had one on my car and it was messing up. I ended up getting another one for it but there was so much stuff to modify to do it.

[@slickdoglong3669]

@@rosstheoliverman right on Ross I had one on my 69 Z28 camaro 302 I switched to MSD SET UP I'm also restoring 2255 4wd and 66 gas wide front and 3 point hay raking tractor be safe brother 👍🙏

[@dougschmitii6165]

Have you ran into any problems with engine oil pumps on the gas 1650s? I was told years ago by the local dealer at the time that they are no longer available. Apparently, valve train kits are harder to find now too for this engine

[@rosstheoliverman]

I haven’t personally had any problems with them. Parts can be hard to find for different things but if you know where to look you can usually come up with it. Somebody’s got it on the shelf if you just call the right friend who knows the right friend

[@dougschmitii6165]

@@rosstheoliverman thank you for the reply!

[@michaelkobeck3577]

That's a female spade connector! 😁

[@rosstheoliverman]

That’s the PG definition 🤣🤣🤣

[@noahhelmuth6497]

I didn't know if you would be interested in some flywheels for a 550 Oliver I got two of them

[@rosstheoliverman]

I don’t know where you’re located. Those would be expensive to ship.

[@noahhelmuth6497]

@@rosstheoliverman I'm from Northern Indiana

[@rosstheoliverman]

@@noahhelmuth6497 send me an email sometime and we’ll talk.

[@MOzarkMike]

It costs $120 and you can buy a lot of sets of points for that… next week when a set of points costs $120, you will need to edit this video. Let’s Go Brandon!

[@rosstheoliverman]

Yeah, unfortunately it may be getting worse in the next years…

[@dougadams2948]

So these are not Bluetooth gauges? Wasn’t an option?😉

[@rosstheoliverman]

🤣 I think they came out the next year 🤣