A SINGLE Disastrous Error! TAM flight 3054

[@MentourPilot]

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[@sobhansonicofficial9640]

I like your explanation

[@RichardCox0]

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[@KohlerSAStudios]

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[@englishfabric]

0:06 / the only mistake you make is combining plurals with the third person singular and you could fix that in a few weeks by asking chatGPT for a few examples of 'noun (plural) + verb' sentences every day and just writing them down and / or reading them aloud.

[@GeeKalidas]

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[@pinkchckn]

I remember this accident vividly, my dad was supposed to be on that flight. He was in Porto Alegre working as a consultant for a company, and the rest of the family was in São Paulo waiting for him for a trip into the country. We weren't sure if he would come on that day or not because he had faced some delays on his job. So not to delay the family trip he and my mom agreed that we would travel by ourselves and he would catch us by bus either way when he arrived in SP. A couple hours later when we were in the highway my dad called to reassure us that he didn't catch the plane. We didn't understand much and we couldn't talk much as well because the phone signal wasn't that good back then (tbf it still isn't good nowadays), but when we arrived in the town we went to, all the news were talking about the crash. We drove on the street of the accident a couple hours before it happened, and thanks to my dad's call, we never had to worry if he was in it or not. But still, I consider it a lot of luck that his work had delayed. I can't imagine what it was like for people who lost people they care about, just the thought that my dad was supposed to be there sends shivers down my spine. RIP to all who lost their lives that day.

[@henrikelanschuetzer4261]

That's called a Higher Guidance 🎉

[@patrickschuldt504]

Gosh, this gives me goosebumps.. Glad your dad made it and RIP to the deceased :(

[@BlackArrows-vo4vq]

@@henrikelanschuetzer4261higher guidance would have not killed all the other passengers on board

[@D4rw1N]

@@henrikelanschuetzer4261 Where was the "Higher Guidance" for the hundreds of people that did go on that flight..?

[@indianfan1029]

So glad your dad called you in advance, and saved you from the trauma that you might have had to endure, albeit for a little while. We cant even imagine what those victim's families would have gone through. Its that much more frustrating that some of these accidents are avoidable. But greed, ego, laziness, corruption get preferred over human lives and safety.

[@Nebulorum]

I flew the next day to Congonhas and it was raining, pilot diverted to GRU. When the transfer bus left us at CGH, I’m hit by the sight of the blackened tail fin and the smell of aviation fuel. Will never forget the sight and smell…

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

OMG. Are you Brazilian?

[@arthurrq]

I was there too. I’ve arrived about a week before the accident and left the day after.

[@ThePolypam]

​@@v1n1c1u55anto5 Would he have to be to be in a major Brazilian airport?

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

@@ThePolypam no, but its a domestic airport though

[@randallsmerna384]

😳

[@thealexandrez]

I was on that avenue at the time of the accident, 5 mins away. I had just arrived in Brazil on another airport from an international flight and was taking the shuttle to congonhas, and because of this we were stuck in traffic for hours. two of my cousins were flying for TAM at the time, and another cousin worked on the building that was hit. She had left the building minutes before the crash. She lost a lot of friends that day. Thank you for another great episode.

[@blatherskite9601]

There but for the Grace of God...

[@thealexandrez]

@@blatherskite9601 as an atheist, all i see is the disaster that took 199 lives and scarred the lives of countless others. hard to believe a god would allow this to happen. But i understand where you are coming from, how faith helps in times of need and I thank you for your message.

[@anamegoeshere]

your female cousin is lucky to be alive.

[@thealexandrez]

@@anamegoeshere very much so

[@gustavodias3491]

5 minutos uma 1 hora o correto o aeroporto internacional perto é o de Guarulhos

[@DanielZh3]

I loved how your English is very clear and easy for a non-native English speaker to understand.

[@womble321]

This is the difference in the UK we learn by experience we don't learn from books. Fashion greatly affects how we speak. It varies constantly and books and formal lessons cannot keep up. When I worked london coming from a rural area. I often couldn't follow the conversation even though it's my native language! It's actually far worse now!

[@ac1646]

@@womble321 What? You are a native speaker and you can not understand? Ai or bot?

[@AGrandson]

@@oscarleijontoftAgreed, it's so hard for me to not think about his swedish accent throughout the whole video. Regardless, his sentences are very easy to understand so it's forgiven. 😅

[@edwardkuehnle7955]

@@AGrandsonnothing to forgive

[@aeureus]

Du sprechen Deutch

[@JMPDev]

The fact that not only the safety margins were so thin, but there was a goddamn _fuel station_ in the path that a plane could take if it were to have a runway excursion is so painfully tragic and unfortunate.

[@giftofthewild6665]

And stupid. Really bad planning.

[@Cohen.the.Worrier]

No, that's not tragic nor unfortunate. It's the result of incompetence and stupidity.

[@TatyanaSZabanova]

The airport is in the middle of the city, literally. The lights at the end of the runway are in someones backyard. There are probably several fuel stations on straight line from the runway.

[@TatyanaSZabanova]

@@giftofthewild6665 Back when the airport was built, the site was desert. Then, the city grew, and then there is the poor planning comes in, lack of building policies in the surrounding area, and high land cost

[@kasiak1288]

@@TatyanaSZabanovaI mean who wants to build a house at the end of a runway… and one with such safety issues.

[@williamfence566]

As soon as Petter says " remember that" I'm ready for the next bit of the story. Fantastic research and clear story telling with difficult technical elements broken down. Deserves the recognition this channel has.

[@hifibrony]

Petter is a born teacher.

[@lauraelliott6909]

Every time he says, "Remember that," I rewind a few seconds to repeat the fact again, so I can really grasp what I need to remember.

[@robcanisto8635]

Every time he says something like "this will become wery important" or anything like that I'm like 😬😬

[@richardfelix7367]

It puts me on alert every time. In this video he said "remember that" two separate times.

[@billysoccerboypayne]

Agree.

[@Castlependragon]

Whoever invented that crushable stopping material needs ALL the medals and a parade. And one HELL of a raise

[@TonboIV]

It's not so much an invention as a change of priorities. I believe multiple different types are used and there are many possible approaches to making such a material. It's not that it didn't exist until someone had a brilliant idea. What changed is that runway overruns became a big enough concern that regulations were changed and money was spent. It all could (and maybe should have) been done a long time ago but until recently it just wasn't considered an important thing to do. Engineers already know about all kinds of things they could do to make aviation better and safer, but it all has downsides and costs and the engineers aren't the ones with all the money. The safest plane possible is also too expensive for 99.99% of people to fly on and probably doesn't even fly half the year.

[@davidwright7193]

The idea has been around for a very long time. You will see sand traps (dry sand is the simplest material that does this) on steep roads or buffer systems on railways (same principle the buffer breaks multiple rests increasing the stopping resistance). On most airports the end of the runway has always had a grass or gravel overrun area which served the same function to a degree but that is getting less effective as more and more safety kit gets put into that zone.

[@indianfan1029]

The ironic thing is, that material wouldn't have helped this crash. Because the plane had already veered off to the side. The crush zone has to be semi circular at least to cover planes that are skidding out of control.

[@LeeStewart]

It still makes you wonder, who would be daft enough to put an airport there in the first place? But I'm sure it wasn't as dangerous on the day it was built as decades ago turboprop planes were far slower.

[@lolmandos]

@@LeeStewart Back when the airport was planned, the location was heavily criticized. Because it was too distant and remote. The city just grew a lot - it's now the most populated city in both the southern and western hemispheres.

[@luizas4191]

I am Brazilian, and I've been keeping up with your content from a while and thank you for telling these stories with such empathy and respect! 🙏🏻 Keep up the good work! You're such a great storyteller!

[@MentourPilot]

Glad you like them! 💕

[@louolmo3009]

Please, consider doing another Brazilian flight justice, GOL 1907, with your amazing story telling habilities, profound respect with your audience and the victims, and your compromise with the truth ​@@MentourPilot 🙏

[@mikehotellimaalfasierra]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@MentourPilotVarig 375, Tam 402 and Gol 1907 (already mentioned above). Those flights are suggestion too. Thank you for the excellent content!

[@binhonz]

Learjet 25D prefixo PT-LSD em 1996, would be another suggestion. =)

[@lunchlady2023]

The airlines are funny. It’s not the military so telling a captain what to do or a suggestion shouldn’t matter at all and maybe save accidents in some cases.

[@tachacastilho]

Hello from Brazil Peter, I had the honor of working at the flight safety department at the time of the accident. It was a terrible accident and the worst of our aviation history. At that time, Congonhas didn’t have a RESA and now we do have the presence of EMAS. I was just a newbie starting my aviation career and dreamed of becoming a Pilot. Now, almost 20 years later (G, I’m getting old 😅) my dream came true and I’m a Flight Safety expert, English Teacher and Pilot. So, bottom line never give up on your dreams. Love your channel by the way 😉 great job!!

[@szelag]

"This situation wasn't envisioned by the designers." As an engineer, in a very different industry, something I say often is that the first 90% of the work is getting things to work the way you've planned it out. The "second 90%" of the work is thinking through, "What are all the ways this could possibly go wrong?" It's really hard identifying all of those, "Well it should be impossible to end up in this situation... but what if it happened?" cases. Sometimes real life is the only thing that shows you those situations, and when that happens it's so critical to make sure it doesn't happen again.

[@michaelbuckers]

Software is the same way. 99% of errors and problems exist simply because it had never even occured to the developers that a program can potentially arrive to such condition. You don't know what you don't know. It's not usually a problem, but sometimes people's lives depend on it.

[@pedroklain9375]

Well, Im a flight dynamics engineer for Embraer and I can say that it is really obvious that the retard sound message shouldn’t stop when only one thrust lever is on idle. I also work with internal flight dynamics requirements for aircraft systems and had several less obvious insights on requirements that could lead to unsafe conditions

[@pedroklain9375]

Well, Im a flight dynamics engineer for Embraer and I can say that it is really obvious that the retard sound message shouldn’t stop when only one thrust lever is on idle. I also work with internal flight dynamics requirements for aircraft systems and had several less obvious insights on requirements that could lead to unsafe conditions

[@pedroklain9375]

Well, I'm a flight dynamics engineer at Embraer and I can say that it is not that hard to realize that the retard aural message should not stop when only one thrust lever is on idle. I also work with flight dynamics requirements for aircraft systems and had several less obvious insights on requirements that could lead to potential hazardous conditions

[@pedroklain9375]

Being a flight dynamics engineer at Embraer I can say that it is pretty clear that the thurst levers aural message should not stop when only one lever is on idle. I also work with flight dynamics requirements for aircraft systems and had several less obvious insights on requirements that could lead to potential hazardous conditions

[@SpectrePXG]

I was a teenager when i saw this accident on the TV and it was a shocking event for any brazilian at the same. As you said, the fire took a long time to be managed and the air crisis on Brazil reached it's pinnacle. I feel confortable watching how you managed to show the world our story with so much respect. PLEASE, we need to see a video about the Gol 1907, the most shocking air accident of Brazil for the reasons that it happened. You're the best aviation content creator of the internet, keep doing this amazing job!!

[@brunoa.23]

It is going to be quite a challange, seen that are so many sides of that story!

[@dist221]

Why would you have a gas station next to an airport?

[@SpectrePXG]

@@dist221 The gas station have by far less fuel than the airport. Anyway 2008 was a terrible year for brazilian aviation.

[@dist221]

@@SpectrePXG Yeah but still, I mean it's seems a bit odd. Ok I didn't know that, hopefully it's better now. Horrible accident, I can't even imagine the terror they must have gone through

[@SpectrePXG]

@@dist221 yea i think the same. Now this airport have a lot of security improvements.

[@wsg94]

At first I thought it was YT translating the thumbnail, I’m pleased to see you care about the Brazilian audience.

[@Suburp212]

YT?

[@llpilch]

for me he thumbnail is in english, saying "one single mistake"

[@binhonz]

Google will translate headings and titles according to the saved language preferences of the account you're using. Sometimes it will also enable the automatic translation in videos. KZbin is a Google service/website in case you didn't know. Abraço! =)

[@llpilch]

​@@binhonz yes, the titles, not the thumbnails

[@binhonz]

in KZbin Studio, there are now options for self-generated thumb titles... ​@@llpilch

[@shahiq_z]

Shoutout to pilots all around the world. The responsibility they carry of keeping passengers safe. To all the good, conscious and safe pilots of the world, thank you!

[@davefoord1259]

Especially the conscious ones. They do much better work than unconscious pilots

[@michaelbishop2729]

You mean conscientious.

[@nevillegoddard4966]

@@shahiq_z1432. Don't forget that the pilots are trying to save their own asses too, it's not just due to their benevolence!

[@shahiq_z]

@@nevillegoddard4966 Well in saving themselves they are saving the passengers too so it works out haha

[@nevillegoddard4966]

@@@shahiq_z Well yes, of course!

[@llpilch]

Petter, a brazillian here! Awesome video as usual, everything you mentioned about the delays, the end of VARIG, the growth of companies, the irritated passengers, etc., is true. However, one detail was missing, which was the trigger for all of this to explode: the flight Gol 1907 accident. In the VARIG 254 video, I even commented that I suggested a video about these accidents, TAM 3054 and Gol 1907, but it was important that the Gol 1907 came first because it plays a fundamental role in the 3054 accident. The 1907 flight was a mid-air collision, and investigations began to point to errors by the controllers, who were working very overloaded, controlling a number of aircraft above the limit they could handle. When the accusations began to fall on the involved controllers and they started being punished, including with imprisonment, all the controllers began to perform a "standard operation," controlling only the number of aircraft they could according to regulations. This caused the real air chaos that Brazil was experiencing: planes in flight could not enter another sector because the controller of that sector was already controlling the maximum number of aircraft, so they did not vacate the previous sector, other planes could not enter, and so on, until it reached the point that planes could not even take off because the airspace was already "full." The airport terminals were completely overcrowded, hundreds of flights were canceled or took off 1 or 2 days late. Controllers could be responsible for a limit of 14 aircraft in their area, if I’m not mistaken, but they frequently had 20 or 25 under their responsibility. When this excess of aircraft in each separate control area was no longer allowed to fly, the chaos began.

[@kasiak1288]

Why couldn’t they hire more controllers??

[@RWBHere]

@@kasiak1288 Presumably, they would also need training to handle that particular airspace. My guess is that the bean counters were responsible for the situation; nobody wanted to spend any more money than necessary. So corners were cut, until people started being killed.

[@jetamtskheta]

Is it any different now in Brazil?

[@rockstermaniac]

@@RWBHere and then malicious compliance kicked in as it always does when the Bean counters make dumb calls... the controllers were penalized for doing what they had to do to keep up with the workload they'd been saddled with so they went alright you want us to follow regulations? let's see what happens when we do.

[@nerd_nato564]

​@@jetamtskhetaI don't fly that often, but I haven't noticed major delays in a while, so I'd say yeah.

[@PedroGuilhermeSchneider]

I lost a dear colleague on this accident. Also, a lot of fellow gauchos died as well. It was a really sad day, and this accident made me a lot more anxious about flying. Your coverage of this event is very good, respectful and detailed. It’s really good to watch different views on this subject, as a brazilian channel (Aviões & Músicas) did a video about this accident as well and he focused on some different aspects, as a bit of politics were viewed as a contributing factor, at the time.

[@josephconnor2310]

So sorry about your loss.

[@dpm2937]

The issue with large delays mentioned here (also known the brazilian aviation crisis) was caused by a mid-air colision in September of 2006 between Gol Flight 1907 and an ExcelAire Embraer. The blame was mostly put on the Air Traffic Controllers so they decided to protest with a work-to-rule campaign which led to the massive delays due to inadequate technology and understaffing. Usually this would have been compensated for by controllers taking short-cuts, which was now not being done anymore. While the Crash of Gol 1907 is often seen as the start of the crisis it‘s important to mention what was going on before that: Brazil‘s ATC system was still run by the military at that time and as early as 2003 the Air Force had warned of outdated equipment, understaffing and lack of funding. For the next 3 years higher budget requests were denied.

[@BruPadov]

Os pilotos do legacy também tiveram sua culpa.

[@aSome1]

Época que a célebre frase da nossa então ministra do turismo, Marta Suplicy, ficou famosa: "relaxa e goza" Eu lembro dessa época, era briga nos aeroportos todos os dias, trabalhar em cia aérea nesse período aí era de ganhar adicional de insalubridade...

[@ricardoalbuquerque3163]

Lost a good friend in this accident. He was just beggining his profissional life and died too young in this biggest plane crash in the country. Otherwise, It's great to see Mentour addressing cases in Brazil. Big fan from Brazil here!

[@dannydaw59]

Sorry for your loss.The airline pushed the limits on everything on this flight. The weight, the pilots, the landing conditions, the lack of maintenance to the thrust reverser.

[@scottguy5452]

So sorry to hear that.

[@Fujiwaratakumifrfr]

I like how he takes human psychology into account that makes us empathize more.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

If you look at the comments section on most videos that involve any kind of pilot error you can see it's badly needed... so many people seem ready to just blame the pilots and put them in jail or at the very least permanently revoke their pilot certificate, even though this accomplishes nothing to improve safety (and in fact worsens it)

[@Fujiwaratakumifrfr]

@@MatthijsvanDuin true

[@durdleduc8520]

@@MatthijsvanDuin it's such a common sentiment in any online space that discusses, like, any dangerous incident ever. i get really concerned by how justice-minded some people are (in the sense that people must Repay For Their Actions At Any Cost, rather than addressing what lead to said actions in the first place). they're probably just a vocal minority though.

[@nerysghemor5781]

I also like that he's careful to specify when he's not sure what the crew was thinking due to lack of clear evidence one way or the other.

[@Wolfeson28]

@@MatthijsvanDuin Absolutely agreed. One of the reasons that aviation safety has improved so much in recent decades is that safety investigators have realized the need to move beyond the blame mentality and look for root causes. It's not enough to just say "those pilots screwed up and made this mistake...everyone else, just don't do that" - you have to understand *why* those pilots made that mistake, and look to take away the factors that led them into making the error and/or not catching it.

[@samsayed3749]

I am a seasoned pilot and I can tell you flying 23000 hours myself these things can still get you when you feel invulnerable. Respect for your video

[@ucfj]

You mean forgetting to reduce speed while you're landing? Crazy

[@obitouchiha4739]

​@@ucfjthe procedure is what initiated this mistake. There is a reason why it was abandoned.

[@karen23826]

Yeah, that’s always my biggest fear in dangerous environments, that experience can lead to complacency and overconfidence. Though that appears to be only a very small part of this accident if at all. Based on this video I think part of the issue is the human brain’s inability to accurately assess likelihood of potential negative outcomes and assign importance to those outcomes. Fear, founded or not, will often amplify the perception that a negative outcome is more likely. As Petter notes, if the pilots had had confidence and accurate knowledge around how much of safety margin they had following the knew procedure, and had confidence in the airport, the runway, and the country’s/airport’s adherence to safety then this may not have happened. It’s multiple systemwide failures. Being a Physician I can totally see where and why the pilots made these decisions as here in the U.S. the healthcare “system” is basically dealing with many of the same issues of Overburdening, Overworking, loss of confidence in the system, admin, poor safety culture that would rather pin the blame on individuals than systemic issues that don’t account for inevitable human error, high stress, high workloads, little official crm equivalent training, lack of consistency, pressure from management to do more and more with less and less with little regard to safety. It will eventually cost a lot of lives before it is adequately addressed.😢

[@biancaspindler7699]

I have been waiting for this episode for YEARS. As a child watching this go down live will always be engraved in my mind. Thank you Petter

[@stigmatube]

Oh boy, this one hits hard. My parents and my ex-father-in-law where supposed to arrive at Congonhas from a BSB flight around the same time this accident ocurred, albeit on different flights. Me and my at-the-time-wife were watching TV when that dreaded TV intermission of some cratastrophe interrupted the soap opera showing the plane crash. At the time there was no Flight Radar or Internet on the planes (Heck, I rarely get a domestic flight with Internet nowadays), or similar things to track flights, so we were like ´huh, maybe we lost our parents´. Just after 15 minutes that the plane was identified and we broke down in tears of relief. And for context, both our parents flights were delayed at BSB due to weather and then diverted to Guarulhos. When they arrived, my mother called me, I was sobbing, and she didn´t even knew what happened. Also, regarding this incident, I am not sure which magazine, Veja or Istoé, showed carbonized bodies of the perished passengers. Really bad taste and fucked up.

[@aircraftadventures-vids]

"....dreaded TV intermission of some catastrophe interrupted the soap opera...." I lived in Brazil for 9 years (SC) and that horrible soundtrack interrupting the TV shows gave me the worst jump-scares ever, the real creeps. Your thought was either "ok, which celebrity died" or "oh no, plane crash!" Regrettably, I learned of many plane crashes after listening to the nightmare soundtrack.

[@stigmatube]

@@aircraftadventures-vids I think every Brazilian feels the same lol whenever that plays, we know serious shit just happened.

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

I was just 10 yeard old and i still remember the news.

[@Suburp212]

Jeez.

[@Suburp212]

Brazil TV just Hits harder. Crazy.

[@priscilam.9808]

I was hired as an outsourced employee at TAM's training school in 2014. Exactly at Congonhas airport base even that many years later, Id hear coworkers talking about this particular crash. And also the information you provide in your video is different from the official version I heard inside the company for what has gone wrong. Your videos are outstanding in quality of details and interesting information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

[@kashishmaheshwari6007]

What's tbe official version you heard?

[@priscilam.9808]

​@@kashishmaheshwari6007I was told there was a problem on the breaking system of the plane. No technical information was given. But there was no indication of human error. Knowing Brazilian culture from living here for a while makes me believe that it is a way to respect the pilots not to get into such details. And CRM at the company back then at least was non existent. Managers had a very standoffish attitude towards outsourced employees even though we held important positions for everyone's safety.

[@Kenionatus]

I too would be interested in the company internal explanation.

[@PJWey]

Around the time of this accident I flew on another flight and happened to sit next to an Embraer test pilot who shared his personal experience of both these pilots. As with many accidents this one had technical, human and organisational causes. A classic Swiss cheese…

[@AlexandreLimberger]

​@@Kenionatus cant talk about what was the particular story the company gave internally, but on media and de facto at least to the public the blame was put primarily on ANAC, the regulatory aviation agency, for leniency on the permits of airport operations (no grooving and rainy conditions landing permissions). In matter of days the grooving was cut on the tarmac. Company was badly critized too, because the non operational reverse.

[@BladePHF]

yfw Mentour says "remember that" and you start getting flashbacks to all the other Mentour videos you've watched

[@vaffangool9196]

Classic Chekhov's classroom.

[@Yugioh_Turk]

His name is Gambit. Remember that.

[@The18107j]

I saw this first on Air Crash Investigation. I have to say, your version is so much better. I particularly like hearing the changes that have been implemented as a result of an incident.

[@speed150mph]

Can we please give credit to the Brazil aviation authorities for a thorough and well done investigation. It would have been easy to fall prey to settling for pilot error for not following prescribed procedures and leave it at that. But they persevered to turn over every stone and find out the reason why the crew did what they did and what contributed to the accident, and did their best to do what they could to ensure it didn’t happen again. I am very impressed by the work they did.

[@RepulsiRotam]

This was no doubt a pilot error. Even without procedures, it makes no sense to have the engine above idle during this braking manouver. It shows that this pilot was a checkbox filler and not a rational thinker. In the moment where he noticed manual braking didn't work, he should have immediately initiated a go around. The fact that procedures were issued, makes this mistake even worse. In aviation terms, he did the equivalent of pulling the hand-brake in a car while pushing gas.

[@WendelSchelhan]

Good to see a high-quality aviation channel like that having their eyes on Brazilian aviation, and the whole context of the crisis we were facing on aviation was determinant for this disaster and well covered by the video. It became the biggest disaster of Brazil's airspace ever since, surpassing Gol 1907 that happened just a year before.

[@YahgohOG]

Na verdade foi o contrario, o acidente da gol aconteceu em 2006 e o tam veio e foi o pior da história da aviação nacional em 2007

[@WendelSchelhan]

@@YahgohOG Tem razão irmão, obrigado! Corrigi o comentário.

[@CieloNotturno86]

Great content as always. I almost never know beforehand what happened to the planes, so I really notice when Petter says "In a later interview, the pilot said..." and when it's "Unfortunately, we'll never know for certain" 😢

[@Xeridanus]

Yeah same. "According to eye witness accounts," oh good, there were survivors. "We don't know why the pilot did this." Oh he dead.

[@veenarasika1778]

Wonderful video. When you said that the aircraft cleared the barrier and boulevard and crashed into the fuel station, it sent chills down my spine. RIP, those who perished. I am glad to hear that EMAS was added to the ends of the runways in the aftermath of this horrific tragedy.

[@luizas4191]

Actually it didn't hit the gas station. Ironically it hit Tam's building, beside the gas station. The debris hit the gas station. Such a Sad day, I'll neve forget😢

[@aircraftadventures-vids]

Ironically, that barrier would have done NOTHING to curb this accident, as the plane would have veered left of it. (it didn't go straight off the end)

[@d.m.821]

​@@aircraftadventures-vidsI don't agree. The presence of any barrier behind the runway would have possibly reduced the Stress-Level of the Crew and therefore would have avoided the accident to happen.

[@johnatsippican5501]

@@d.m.821 Good point, but I don't think we can say "would have avoided" just "could possibly have avoided ..." as you did earlier.

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

The fact air bus didnt have a fail safe to shut down the other engine is baffling. Why would one engine in reverse not automatically make the other engine do the same during landing?

[@XIIchiron78]

I think this bears more discussion... Because yes, why? Reversers attempting to deploy while one engine is still in climb should cause all kinds of protections and warnings to kick in. It's one of the worst things that can happen.

[@sct913]

The fact that an aircraft is even allowed to be operated in revenue service with one thrust reverser inoperative is baffling.

[@nilloc93]

Something not mentioned in the video is that they did have a warning system for that, just not one with verbal alarms. Why can the plane do that? For maneuvering in tight positions. It's not common, and in some(most?) airlines forbidden, but sometimes the aircraft has to make sharp turns or other odd maneuvers while on the ground and there is no tug available. I have seen this maneuver performed at a small rural airport when a plane had to divert there but couldn't turn around normally in the space between the grass and a retaining wall, no tug so the aircraft engaged 1 reverser to pull a very tight left hand turn in order to get back to the runway. Let's remember that the reversers can only be deployed while on the ground and airbus had implemented procedures stating that during landing, regardless of 1 or 2 functioning reversers that both should be engaged.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

Auto thrust disconnected = you’re on your own

[@jvandervyver]

You are thinking about a very narrow situation. The case where this is legitimately because one engine was placed in reverse and the other in thrust. But if there is a malfunction that leads the system to erroneously believe the engine is reversing, it could be catastrophic to take that action. That is why planes don't simply make decision on your behalf unless it is literally impossible. There are plenty of actions that result from the situation having been thought to be impossible, only to occur and then the plane is partially blamed.

[@edibervan]

I'm loving that you're presenting these brazilian incidents in the light of the new era. I've been fascinated with them for many years. Here's a suggestion: Varig 820 from GIG to Orly back in 1973. Many lessons for aviation came from that. Keep on the good job! Cheers

[@Guinevere99]

My father was supposed to take Varig ill-fated flight to Paris. His boss insisted that he joined him in that trip but my father didn't want to (I don't remember the reason). His boss died in the accident.

[@louolmo3009]

@MentourPilot TAM 3054 lives in the memory of every Brazilian who was alive by 2007. Thank you for telling this tragic story with such respect and caring. Please, consider doing another Brazilian flight justice, GOL 1907, with your amazing story telling habilities, profound respect with your audience and the victims, and your compromise with the truth 🙏

[@firstnamelastname5474]

We will never fully comprehend how much stress the captain was feeling at that time but even with just this, without human lives weighing heavy at my shoulders, I was incredibly stressed almost throughout this whole video. Frankly speaking, ANAC and TAM failed those crew and passengers. It really was just a disaster waiting to happen.

[@Kenionatus]

I suspect that the added weight of human lives is something pilots get quite used to. People who drive cars don't always stress about the possibility of running over pedestrians, after all. I think it's also a mistake to think of the stress they do experience (complicated, high stakes situations with a lot of potentially angry customers and bosses breathing down their necks) as something that's unique to the aviation industry. I believe most people should take these videos to heart and reflect on times when they experienced effects such as task overload, confirmation bias or get-there-itis. To use the driving example again, get-there-itis can cause people to disregard bad weather conditions and drive faster than is safe when they have an appointment they might miss. The result is that people lose their lives every day to accidents that were preventable by taking a second to calm down, reflect and the making a phone call to inform people of a late arrival.

[@NicolaW72]

Indeed, exactly.

[@gustavodias3491]

Moro perto do Aeroporto sou Brasileiro

[@southerncross4956]

I do not know how you always put me in the cockpit of a crashing plane. You use a truly measured voice relaying mostly technical information and observations without any drama. I experience a lot of stress because of this rare talent. Sadly I have to say, keep it up.

[@Diegobrinter]

Brazilian subscriber from Porto Alegre here! Amazing to finally hear your insight on this tragic accident. It made me terrified of Congonhas even to this day. By the way, you must have seen Porto Alegre's airport on the news recently... it's the one that got completely flooded and is now closed until (at least) December, sadly. Such a great airport, but back in 2007 it was half the size it is today, the check-in lines were huge, barely anything to eat inside, but passenger numbers were basically the same as of last year. This says a lot about how outdated our infrastructure was back then

[@rogeriopenna9014]

it will reopen 21st October

[@EuOrem]

I really appreciate your work. It is so important to share how every accident happened to avoid future ones. I’m currently taking my private pilot license and this is really relevant for my journey in aviation. This accident specifically is really hard on me. My dad was on the airport that day and had just arrived in a TAM flight a few minutes before. I was a kid at the time and can still remember the huge smoke coming from the buildings at the end of 17R. I still have a very bed feeling about that day. My dad told me everyone at Congonhas was shocked and crying. He lost 2 friends in that flight coming from Porto Alegre. Nowadays, the old TAM building and the gas station has been replace by a memorial to the victims. Although is a nice gesture, it is a really sad place. Still, It’s relevant to reassure safety and responsibility to all of those involved with aviation. Including me.

[@julesleodoro]

My mother was working a block behind the TAM fuel station and saw the explosion. The TAM flight 402 (Fokker 100) also fell on a friend's house's front yard on 1996, and he and his family were saved by going inside a few seconds before it happened. CGH became a very dangerous airport. I'm sorry for your father's friends.

[@thepersianconnection]

Peter, a huge thank you to you and your team, my father is retired now, he was ATC in military compound of Iranian airforce during Shah time. I grew up with aviation and your channel brings up many great childhood memories. THANK YOU 🙌🏻

[@kenbrown2808]

"if you're going to use the wrong procedure, the first thing to do to make it safe is not do it that way." words to live by.

[@SeriousDiman]

If pilots were not informed about a dangers that new procedure prevents - it's good for nothing. Sounds like some stupid administrative thing to add 55m. to braking distance to save tires or something like that.

[@ignorance72]

@@SeriousDiman What? The new procedure increases the landing distance because it adds forward thrust. That's physics, not an "administrative thing".

[@christopherabramor3012]

​@@ignorance72I think he meant how it's perceived by the pilots if the safety reasons for the change aren't properly explained

[@ignorance72]

@@christopherabramor3012 No, because he said "to save tires or something". The increased landing distance has nothing to do with tires, so he's completely misunderstood the reason why the distance increases. It's not that the pilots are supposed to deliberately increase the distance, it increases because there's some unwanted forward thrust.

[@christopherabramor3012]

@@ignorance72 Yes. But that's what a pilot who doesn't get the reason explained could think, that's how I interpreted his comment

[@eltonsimoes1992]

Loved it! When I fly into CGH, this accident is always in the back of my mind, but this video helped to understand how it is still very safe nowadays. Just a small correction: after this accident, CGH lost the position of busiest airport to GRU, which is farther away from the city but a lot larger and with way longer runways. Also, please consider doing a video on GOL 1907! It's absolutely insane.

[@nerysghemor5781]

So in your estimation, is this an airport that, in 2024, would now be safe to land at if I were ever to visit Brazil, or should I insist on booking my flight to GRU instead?

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

@@nerysghemor5781 its not that short, the problem was that they really screwed up, it was more than enough to stop the plane and at the time the runway had problems with its grip when wet. I was in São Paulo and EVERY 5 min a A320 passed over my head while landing there and no problems at all. Last week a azul E190 took really long to rotate and became national news, but they are still investigating.

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

@@nerysghemor5781 and If you are coming from an international flight you wont land at Congonhas, its a domestic airport

[@eltonsimoes1992]

@@nerysghemor5781 Unless you are coming from a connection within the country, you would most likely land at GRU anyway, and there are plenty of connections to major airports in Brazil from GRU. That said, CGH should be very safe, we had no other accidents with commercial aircraft since 2007 in the whole country. Even if the answer was slow from the responsible parties, so far it has been very effective.

[@nerysghemor5781]

@@eltonsimoes1992 That’s good!! 👍

[@seiscaneco68]

Brazilian aviation enthusiast here: Thank you for really summarizing perfectly all factors involved in this accident. Since it happened we brazilians had heard most of them scatered and sometimes in contradicting versions. Thats a great video to help someone really understand step by step, factor by factor what happened that night. Enough for me to feel informed correctly.

[@Raven-Claws88]

Petter, if you havent done this already, please write a book of your experiences as a pilot, trainer and narrator of these accident cases. Your narrating style is excellent and so well researched. Your book should be compulsory reading for commercial pilots, and be sold in all airport bookshops.

[@Tulio_Fonseca]

Great job on these 2 Brazilian aviation tragedies. As a Brazilian myself, it hurts a bit to go through all of the events once again. But your way of telling these stories is just hors concours. Now, to complete the triad of Brazilian air tragedies, GOL 1907 should be on your list. That's another heartbreaking story, that the US pilots literally got away with the murder of 154 innocent people. Hope to see that one covered ASAP. Thanks Petter!

[@malumello17]

The first cause was ATC error and also bad CRM by the legacy pilots.

[@Tulio_Fonseca]

@@malumello17 just imagine the scenario in which the same ATC and CRM errors occured, BUT the Legacy transponder was ON. All of those 154 people would get to their destinations safe and sound.

[@flaviomendonca1540]

@@malumello17 the 2 pilots on the legacy didn't have enough experience on fly the jet. It was the first cause although it was not the only one. The ATC was hold accountable as well

[@gerardmorris6191]

I'm very happy today! After I finish my 12 hour shift in 7 hours, I get to enjoy your video! Life is good....

[@rmyers99]

"Runway excursions" sound like fun getaway trips and not horrifying landing scenarios.

[@myne00]

It's just a feature of the way we use English in our daily lives vs the defined way the word is used in international aviation. Gotta remember, there's a list somewhere of a thousand or two defined for aviation purposes English words every single international pilot on earth must know. In a similar way to the Alpha Bravo Charlie phonetic alphabet there are also minimal overlaps in the syllables of the chosen words to improve intelligibility over bad radios. Incursion and excursion were chosen, I assume because they sound unique enough for the purposes of aviation and in the context are defined. You could use unauthorised/unplanned entry/exit, but this could be confused with less consequential acts like taking the wrong taxiway/gate/whatever.

[@theAessaya]

This is not the kind of excursion I want to be part of!

[@mediocreman2]

Many words, especially in English, have multiple definitions.

[@sharoncassell5273]

Incursions...

[@mauricioguazzelli4427]

As a Brazilian pilot, I'm really impressed with the quality of your videos about our most notorious accidents! Keep going with the great work! Waiting anxiously a video about the Gol 1907 flight!! Once again, thanks for your work!!

[@lesterweinheimer665]

Thanks a lot I'm a pilot who really enjoys your videos. Too old to still do it but enjoy your expert analysis of accidents etc. Thank you so so much

[@ebaystars]

with one hand on the throttles I'd wager you would never have made the same mistake, to much over designed systems "semi-automation", i cannot understand why the fo didnt grab the throttle didnt he hear the stb engine at that thust setting?

[@Deovandski]

My mother worked at TAM and would go to that specific TAM warehouse once in a while for training. That sinking feeling I had thinking "What if she was there?" when I saw the news on live TV still echoes despite all those years. For those lives lost on that day, I prayed that at least they had the chance to spend time with their loved ones before that fateful day.

[@chrisbastos]

Holy shit. I'm Brazilian and was asking myself if you had already made a video about this one, I was actually searching in your older videos. You read my mind.

[@Exisles]

Holy Guacamole.

[@Siladzy]

I felt the same way!! I literally told myself yesterday or the day before “i wonder if he covered this accident already or if he will somewhere in the near future”

[@aircraftadventures-vids]

He did an amazing job on this one and not to criticize the accident choice, but I feel the GOL collision was worse in the "comedy of errors" that happened up to the event. I hope he covers that one as well, that was pretty shocking.

[@rafaelmocochinskifreitas9016]

@@Exisles Brazilians don't speak spanish.

[@CC-xn5xi]

We know they speak Portuguese. ​@@rafaelmocochinskifreitas9016

[@marinal79]

I’m from Porto Alegre, I remember this. My friend’s mum died. Thank you for your content.

[@aircraftadventures-vids]

Sorry about the flooding, hope things are getting better there. (my cousins are from Viamão)

[@beakmann]

Sorry to hear! Cheers from a fellow gaúcho

[@MarechalAviador]

As a brazilian and AMT at CGH, that was an excellent video explaining this terrible accident.

[@eduardopsok]

Petter. I’m Brazilian, and I confess that watching the final moments of your narration of the TAM 3054 landing, I felt like I was inside the aircraft, as if I were one of the crew members. The agony reached such an extreme level that I almost had a panic attack. But in the end, this is good because it shows how faithful, true, and technical you were in your explanation. Even though I went through some terrible moments watching it, I am immensely grateful to have obtained such information and to have learned more about this accident. I just discovered your channel, and you have gained a subscriber. Next Saturday, I will be taking a flight departing from the Porto Alegre area, just like that flight, heading to the same airport. I sincerely hope it won't be raining. 😢😂On behalf of Brazilians, I want to thank you. Thank you, and keep it up!

[@PKSE]

Double Brazil!!(2 Brazil videos in a row)

[@aircraftadventures-vids]

Things happens in threes...I bet he'll do the GOL collision next video!

[@brauliopestana]

It's not a good thing. We talking about real accidents mate

[@mikehotellimaalfasierra]

@@aircraftadventures-vidsGol 1907. Those terrible accidents changed aviation in Brazil for real. It would be amazing to hear about Tam 402 and Varig 375 too.

[@brianp1328]

​@@brauliopestana Yea. No more videos pls

[@mikehotellimaalfasierra]

@@brianp1328 Learning about what happened and why it happened is the only way the aviation industry learns how to ensure this never happens again. He is doing this in the most respectful way possible. It is also important to see what has changed since then so that we, as passengers, understand that flying is safe.

[@pinosim]

I will never forget the sight of that tailfin hanging out of a still smoking building... I was there one day after the accident, its really close by my house and about 1 block from the school Ive studied. What a sad day it was

[@Brillig2]

Petter, I have a suggestion for an episode that should be different from most of your episodes. In 2001 there was a situation in which the only doctor in Antarctica developed an issue with his pancreas. So an effort was made to fly him out and fly in a replacement. The US air force was originally called on to do it, but they declined. The job then was turned over to Canadian Arctic pilots to do the job, which they did successfully. There are lots of interesting details, including such things as the folks in Antarctica building a run strip and lighting it with barrels of fuel. But it was so cold that the gasoline they tried using as an accelerant just crystalized instead of burning. Anyway, I think it would be a very interesting episode.

[@Fabio-dq3qi]

Hello. My friend . I’m a ATPL . Thanks for your real e truth explanation because for several years I’ve been listening that the problem it was related with contaminated runaway, inoperative thrust reverser etc etc, when a single fail of operation of the aircraft caused the tragedy.

[@rodrigopinchiari4027]

This accident happened minutes after I was getting back from work. When I went home, my mom was very concerned about me because I was on the avenue that is close to the accident. RIP Everyone.

[@sxplash7802]

omg i remember watching a mayday episode about this flight at my grandpas place when i was about 9 years old! since then i spent hours searching the internet for more information and the original mayday episode with the remaining bits of memory i had of it but to no avail! thank you so much for covering this shocking accident, the storytelling in this episode is magificent.

[@jakeb0y_]

You are like Air Crash Investigation but so much more detailed and better! Love it!

[@wenc82]

Ok, just wanted to put it out there, greeting passengers at the door by pilots and crew is a practice that TAM has been doing way before the accident. They even had the slogan “The Magic Red Carpet” where a red carpet would be extended at the plane entrance and sometime you will not only be greeted by the pilot/ crew, the founder Captain Rolin Amaro will be there to greet you! The practice severs as TAM’s commitment to customer service, and the red carpet serves as a symbol of that commitment and it helps cleaning passengers shoes which reduces the cleaning needs on the plane’s carpet.

[@henrikelanschuetzer4261]

Evidently somebody fond of SUPERFICIAL gestures 🥲

[@TonboIV]

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

[@LemonCamel]

Uh... ok. It's still retarded to put more pressure on pilots. Also, this reads like a shill post

[@wenc82]

@@TonboIVat a procedure perspective 100% agree. But at a time where customer service in brazilian airlines wore worst than spirit air, it was something to differentiate from others. It was a nice personalized touch, I remember picking TAM over any other airlines any day. Again it also saved as a cost saving measure with the carpet, cheaper to replace a cheap carpet vs having the plane carper cleaned or replaced.

[@TonboIV]

@@wenc82 The thing is that pilots have a lot of stuff to do before a flight. Wasting their time on things that the cabin crew can do means more delays and personnel shortages on the flight-deck side of operations, which worsens to the problems that are making passengers upset in the first place.

[@Mssmaimone]

And yet again an episode about an accident that is so important for me! Thanks for the great work, Petter. This case was really schoking for me back in the day. I was still a kid (I was 12 at the time of the accident) and me and my mom were visiting my grandma in a city called Campo Grande, where I live nowadays, but then we lived in São Paulo. I will never forget when the urgent news interrupted Globo (Brazil's largest television network) programme to show that a building was on fire right next to Congonhas airport. It was really sad to learn, later on, that it was an A320 of Tam that crashed into thar building. Only two days after the accident, on July 19th, 2007, me and my mom travelled from Campo Grande to São Paulo Congonhas in a TAM A320. We were really scared of landing in Congonhas, to be really honest. The main runway was innoperative and, coincidentally, we landed in the same direction of 3054, but in the auxiliary 35R runway. As I was siting in the right side of the plane, when we vacated the runway and crossed 35L, we could see the building across the avenue. It was lightly raining, and there was still a little bit of smoke going up through the air from the crashing site. I will never forget this image to the day I die. Thanks again for your nice work, Petter.

[@melinapaixao82]

I remember watching on tv and stupidly praying for survivors. I couldn’t comprehend so many people loosing their lives in an instant. Thank you for the excellent video

[@diegofunari5108]

I was hired by tam a few months after the accident. They did a complete brand redesign as an attempt to regaing trust from passengers. Up to this day, some incidents in Congonhas airport still occur. But the possibility of a new accident like this one is very low.

[@BabaYaga17]

It would be great if you could look into two Polish tradegies IL 62M final Kosciuszko and Kopernik flights. Great job as always. Keep recording.

[@ScottsafriendofGod]

It never ceases to amaze me how indestructible the black boxes are as well as the ability of the individuals investigating these crashes to sort through the overwhelming amount of information and find exactly what happened... and, how to make sure that it never happens again. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

[@PetrolHeadBrasil]

I worked at CGH airport at that time, but for another airline, GOL, and on that specific day, it was my day off. When the first aerial images began to appear on TV, they said that a plane had caught fire in a hangar. At the time I saw that it was nothing like that, but a plane crash... Was a sad day...

[@HaroldCollins-p5w]

Petter, I was a P3 flight engineer in the U S NAVY, you’re the best. My favorite website.❤😊🙏🏻🛐🆘✝️

[@igge]

I have been flying into and out of Congonhas a couple of times, and I'm always hyper alert when I do. The runway is so incredibly short, and the airport is situated in such a heavily populated area..

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

Last month a Azul flight took really long to rotate and it became national news.

[@mrxmry3264]

another airport to add to my list of dangerous airports. it joins kai tak, lukla, quito, la paz and a couple others.

[@luizas4191]

For those who don't know: cgh airport was build in a secluded area. The city grew and advanced so much... To the point of surrounding the airport. SP has many many buildings. My friends from SP used to joke with me about the amount of buildings in there and called It "another New York".

[@mrxmry3264]

@@luizas4191 "another new york"? kinda reminds me of the banking sector in frankfurt which is nicknamed "mainhattan" due to all the skyscrapers.

[@luizas4191]

@@mrxmry3264 Right?! I have no ideia If that's a common point of view over there. But that's how some of my friends* used to call It.

[@terencematandika2370]

It's always a happy day when Mentour Pilot uploads😁

[@seemelater5056]

Yesterday i have finished the entire Air Crash Investigation playlist, i am honestly left in doubt that i will ever find such entertainment on KZbin or anywhere else 😂 Not only that you're making everyone realize how strict and safe the airline industry is but you're also doing it in passion, and thise technical details and explanations in every video makes me feel after each video that it was a 40mins well spent and encouraged to watch another video and learn another thing, and learn stuff i did... Many things to be honest, and of course all thanks to your amazing job I wish that we (as a community) will be all together celebrating the 100th episode, the 150th, and 200th and so forth, and a 5M subs, 10M subs and 50M subs also together 🎉

[@Hans-gb4mv]

Please don't call it entertainment but infotainment.

[@jkunz27]

Since you've finished that series. You should check out the AOPA's Air Safety Institute "Accident Case Study" series, as well as National Geographic's Seconds from Disaster. Both are very well-done. I especially like the narrator from the older Accident Case Study videos.

[@lynniepage4994]

I'm a long time subscriber, retired FA, who just wants to thank you for your compelling presentations.

[@procrastination_at_perfection]

I appreciate every pilot who watching these kind of videos and keep their knowledge up to date. We all get comfortable at work with reoccurring procedures and get blind to their importance.

[@osrizzo9219]

That sinking feeling when he questions the decisions of the pilots and then follows up immediately with, "we'll never really know."

[@Sandra-vu9pj]

Such incredible production quality, well done Petter and team!!

[@Nebulorum]

That was a bad year in Brasil, there was also the private jet and Gol mid air collision…. Tough times.

[@cherrytomato6139]

Every time I hear a story with tragic outcome I feel utterly powerless. We can be great achievers or businessmen, hugely successful or influential, rich or well connected - but we have no way to protect against human factor or technological failure. Life is so fragile and precious. Sobering thought.

[@mediocreman2]

Interestingly enough, the most successful and influential people rarely hold lives in their hands everyday like pilots do. Even surgeons only work on a few people a day.

[@descendingforth]

Wow im impressed by the quality of this video. What an amazingly informative breakdown of this story Petter!!!

[@fortuneonyelowe7516]

I love and respect your work so much. I've never flown in an aircraft before but i wish with all my heart that you'll be the one flying when i do eventually fly

[@_basile]

a video about that incident in my city!! It’s an honor to have our history show here, and I hope it helps making aviation safer

[@chriswarburtonbrown1566]

Broken plane, broken runway, broken airline, broken training... Yet the pilot gets the blame! Seems pretty unfair to me. As you said, he's only human.

[@BruPadov]

Exactly! In 2006 and 2007, the “Air Chaos” or “Air Blackout” was considered in Brazil, triggered by the GOL 1907 accident, the bankruptcy of Varig and the mismanagement of both the airports and the government. Since then, there have been reforms and today Brazil is one of the safest countries to fly commercially and there have never been any commercial accidents again.

[@Chris-hf2sl]

Yes, and when I saw the bird's eye view of the airport, my immediate reaction was this can't be real. The airport is basically in the middle of a crowded city with skyscrapers all around it. Apart from the obvious consequences in the event of an accident, it must be absolute hell for anyone living a few metres from the runway.

[@prodnaki]

​@@Chris-hf2sl it's cause it's unfair the airport came WAAAAAY before the city around it. it was an empty field. but till this day no accidents after that one, and it has a new pavement after the runway ending that stops the plane almost immediately (i forgot the name tho)

[@LifeLift421]

@@BruPadovthere was just an accident recently in Brazil. Brazil is a very corrupt country so all of this makes sense to me. I am afraid to fly with Brazilian airlines and do only because I have to. If they could operate a plane with half and engine and max capacity of 500 people in one plane they would. Money grabbing greedy bastards. One psychology’s on 5000 pilots is beyond ridiculous.

[@Rasta8889]

I'm currently a student glider pilot and yes, hold off and rolling are just seconds but can feel like an eternity. With a glider you try to roll to the side of the landing strip using the rudder and on my recent flight I misjudged the remaining speed slightly and started the turn too early. Seeing a fence come closer that fast does really mess with time perception. Luckily strong braking sufficed. On a happier note, I might do my first solo before you release your next video and you'll have been a major inspiration for me to learn to fly. Thanks, I love it :)

[@stevehatten209]

I know absolutely nothing about flying or avionics other than living next to Embry Riddle in Daytona Beach, Florida. I have learned a lot about what it takes by watching your videos. I really appreciate the narration being understandable. Thank you.

[@1sleepyguy42o]

My little brothers special interest is plane accidents and it's definitely reignited an interest in aviation for me. Your videos have given me a ton of stuff to connect with him on and it's been really fun mutually info dumping about different accidents haha

[@unvergebeneid]

Opening the video on "humans _makes_ mistakes" is pretty genius actually 😄

[@noamyemini]

This is actually a somewhat difficult thing for English as a second language speakers. It seems somewhat arbitrary that the singular noun - singular verb agreement uses an “s” on the noun and not on the verb while the plural noun - plural verb agreement uses an “s” on the verb and not on the noun. One way I think about it is that there should be a total of one “s” either on the verb or on the noun. A human makes mistakes Humans make mistakes

[@unvergebeneid]

@@noamyemini English isn't my first language either and I'm not trying to dunk on anyone's English for no reason. I just genuinely think that expressing human fallibility with a grammar mistake is chef's kiss levels of irony.

[@psicaiomantese]

I still live nearby Congonhas' Airport. I was out or town that day, but some neighbors told me they could feel the heat of the explosion 6 to 10 blocks away! It was build a memorial at the crash site, and it's known for being weary, and some "paranormal activities" have been related there. Furthermore, in that flight, many notable people were passengers, and layers years I've came to discover a father of a friend of mine parished in the crash. But, in the bright side, only midair collision of Gol and the Legacy, and the Air France 447 came aftermath as notable big crashes. Brazilian aviation is one of the safest out there since those.

[@aircraftadventures-vids]

Don't forget Varig Flight 820 (in France) and TAM Flight 402

[@hkkrr]

…in that flight, many notable people were passengers??🤔 Wut the heck??🫠

[@lucasgabaritante3569]

@@hkkrrAlgumas pessoas que estavam naquele vôo eram pessoas importantes.

[@mattmoreira210]

0:06 "humans _makes_ mistakes." True.

[@4HolerPoler1]

Such a brilliant production - I had this exact instance, as a junior A320 captain almost 30 years ago and was lucky to have been able to keep the aircraft on the runway.

[@_Feyd-Rautha]

Having watched all your videos, many of them many times (especially Air France 447), i can definitely say this is my favorite channel. Thank you for telling these bits of aviation history in such top notch videos!

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

Nowadays Brazilian air companies are one of the most punctual and safe of the world, as well as Brazilian airports. Azul is the most punctual company every year by now and never had an accident. Quite a long way from 2007.

[@onlythebest3311]

Yeah right. I will never fly on a Latin America airline, everything is horrible starting with booking a ticket all the way to airplane safety and pilot quality. Just try to use the lifemile or contact their customer service gives me zero confidence, the whole thing feels like it’s ran out of a basement outfit

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

@@onlythebest3311 its much better than the crap you have wherever you are and much better planes made in Brazil than wherever you are as well. No doors falling midflight and no computers crashing down the planes.

[@onlythebest3311]

@@v1n1c1u55anto5 made in Brazil airplanes? lol you guys can’t even keep the rainforest from burning…something that naturally does not burn….and you want to talk about making airplanes? The whole country is a corrupt backwater dump, Brazil made airplane….hilarious….the women are beautiful though I give you that

[@Zergul_Zai]

This airport just looks pathetic with some evil miserable person behind it the way this runway is designed with a FUEL station right at the end of it wtf.. like someone wants a crash to happen And now added crushable trap in a small little box shape at the center of the runway when its clear planes can swerve away from center.. lmao

[@v1n1c1u55anto5]

@@Zergul_Zai its not that short, its bigger than Santos Dumont at Rio de Janeiro and it serves only domestic flights. The problem at the time as said in the video was that it became slipery when raining. When it was created It was outside the city, São Paulo nowadays when you fly over you see buuldings as far as the eye can see.

[@revivalcycle]

to have this much comprehensiveness in such a smooth flowing presentation means that you are the best failure trainer around.

[@SWISS-1337]

I love watching these. I originally wanted to become a fighter pilot and then move on to flying commercial planes, but found out I had crohns disease, messing everything up. Had to fall back on IT, which is great but will always wonder how different my life could have been.

[@jinxedpenguin]

Man, I'm sorry! I actually didn't want to be a pilot until later in life (as in, my early 20s, mainly just private pilot as a hobby or just to learn to fly). Sadly, I have ADHD so the FAA will never let me fly. Funnily enough, I also have hypothyroidism but the FAA is OK with that as long as it is controlled. No clue why they aren't OK with mental illness that is controlled (okay look, I *kind* of understand why they aren't OK with people who take stimulants flying but at the same time, I don't think depressed people who take SSRIs should be barred from flying.) I actually work in DevOps so we're in similar boats :) Also, good luck with your Chrons - my older brother has Chrons and has had to be hospitalized multiple times (and almost lost his life due to a medical mistake that caused him to nearly bleed to death during surgery.) It sucks so I really feel for you

[@CapitalismSuxx]

Story of my life too. I don't have a disease, I'm just hopelessly nearsighted. So, chose IT.

[@oliverlok554]

Just got told yesterday that I might never get my Class 1 medical… it’s complicated. I have wanted to be a pilot since I was 6 and in 19 now. I’m so lost… something in aviation is the only job I can ever think of doing

[@paulohenriquefortesalves6727]

Great video about a very sad accident. I was there 1 hour later to pick up my mother that was in the airport. I will never forget the dark smoke from this plane burning....

[@haolsen3607]

Fantastic episode, as an Airport manager this contained so much of me and my colleagues daily talks about how to make our airport as safe as possible and the risks we need to manage.

[@randomjunk1977]

Every time we get the "We're not completely sure about what happened at this point because it was more than 30min before the flight ended" I'm always slightly taken aback. I had a VCR that could record 8 hours of VIDEO onto one tape in like 1992. Why are we only getting 30 min of audio on CVR?

[@yodamf]

Naw dude at 27:00 that plane knew something.

[@Luubelaar]

12:20 - "these grooves still hadn't been made." - Me: Not great. "Airport authority made the decision to reopen the airport ... with a plan to install the grooves later" - Me: Also not great. "The decision to reopen... was not made with the input of Brazil's CAA." - Me: definitely not good. Why on Earth would they not be involved???!! "...Because the entire renovation project had lacked ANAC approval." Me: Oh ffs. This is lunacy. "...Because in turn, the airport itself, the busiest airport in Brazil, did not even have an ANAC operating certificate. - Me: OMFG.

[@alef9366]

I have been a frequent flier for over two decades, however it's only been through your channel that I have gained full awareness of how much 1. planes are faulty 2. airlines are poorly managed 3. airports are poorly run and/or inadequately equipped 4. flight authorities are unprepared 5. pilots make mistakes Thank you for all the light shedding and truth debunking

[@VergilAckerman]

It's good that your channel spreads the information about various airlines A320 accidents. I've also never heard about most of them from my company.

[@kangtechgaming9752]

It's pretty simple; I see a new mentour pilot video and I watch it from start to finish no matter how long it is.

[@ceonz]

Watching this at the airport before my flight 😂

[@nerysghemor5781]

(So I'm not the only sicko that watched accident videos before a flight. Had to stop myself from doing it at the airport once because I didn't want to scare other passengers. Just because I am totally at ease with flying does NOT mean most people are.)

[@zernid]

Even after all those errors a go around would have saved lives

[@EULAL1A]

I have got to say it man, I love this channel. I first found it last year, and I fell in love with the channel after the first video I watched. I love this kind of content, and I hope you keep well and keep up the great work for ages. I discovered a great admiration for aviation from this channel, and really liked the story of TransAsia flight 235, which covered a flight on the only type of plane I have flown on. If I end up with a career in aviation, it is in no small part due to this channel.