A Study of Logical Fallacies #3

[@v.a.n.e.]

yup, one learns new things every day; i.e., ipse dixit, one of the fallacies that wasn't covered in this video, although in my opinion it should have been. you cannot “better” determine God's truth without first proving that God exists. religion can really offer nothing more than mere ipse dixit.

[@loop287churchofchrist]

Thanks! I will look into this one!

[@shekutoronka9791]

I’m lost on the once save always ..can a man struggle with sin but what if his heart is after righteousness and he trying to please GOD and wrestle the sin..one minute he falls but he still trust GOD and ask for forgiveness..i don’t believe in a sinless perfection. So can a person struggle with sin and still be considered save.

[@loop287churchofchrist]

A person can struggle with sin, but through the power of the gospel, along with true repentance, someone can overcome a habitual life of sin. When there are occasions of falling to temptation, God will forgive us (1 John 1:8-10). The Old Testament was a law that required perfection, which no one could do. The Israelites learned the necessity of grace which would come along in the New Testament, a testament of which we live under if we are redeemed in Christ. Blessings to you.

[@TruthQuestian78]

Struggling and practicing are not the same thing. None of us are exempt from the struggle. Making it a practice is something different, that's will full. If once saved always saved were true, then Jeremiah 17:9 would mean nothing when it says that our hearts are treacherous and desperate. That wasn't part of God's mosaic law. That was a statement of fact about the condition of the human heart. That's why Zephaniah 2:3 says probably you might be saved. That probably isn't on God, he's faithful and true. Probably applied to us and our treacherous hearts. Paul struggled. Read Romans 7 and 8. He was victorious. He did not practice sin but fought against it. He never gave up that we know of, it wasn't recorded at least.

[@MahmutAyabakan]

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[@bibleburner8426]

Grown adults who have a boat load of ridiculous claims that they could never hope to demonstrate to be true, pretending to be revealing the logical fallacies of others.

[@loop287churchofchrist]

The Bible is a logical book. It can, however, be used illogically. When it is, people can be lead into error.

[@bibleburner8426]

@@loop287churchofchrist The bible is a thoroughly ridiculous book. The stories are clearly written by people who knew next to nothing about the natural world, who were bigoted and violent, and who had a very, very low opinion of humanity...to the point of being dangerous, and anti-human.

[@loop287churchofchrist]

The Bible does a pretty good job of showing that it was written by individuals to whom God had given a message. It might be a "ridiculous" message to some, with "dangerous" and "anti-human" elements, but to those who know and study, it's a reasonable and rational explanation of the origin of the Universe and the purpose of mankind on the Earth.

[@bibleburner8426]

@@loop287churchofchrist The bible may make sense to somebody who is ignorant of science, but to somebody who knows a thing or two about astronomy, biology, and geology...the bible is demonstrably false, and downright childish.

[@loop287churchofchrist]

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