A Stupid Analysis of the Cancelled Kirby Adventure for Gamecube - Gonz

[@EluTran]

Yeah this video is definitely your best one so far editing wise and also just being hella engaging. Really wish we got this game too

[@awesomeocelot7475]

Me too....

[@naturalnumber2370]

Aren’t you the bloke who covered the undertale ost?

[@N8-PT]

Its 4 minutes of filler before the video even starts

[@nightwingmix1]

@@naturalnumber2370 dang, all these years later and it seems that’s still all anyone knows them for

[@Vailskibum]

The legend returns!

[@bencundiff9405]

Wow didnt except to see u here!

[@idkany293]

he never left

[@Da_Trololz]

Did not know you know Kirby GCN.

[@AbsolBlogsPokemon]

I remember flipping through Nintendo Power and seeing those screenshots back in the day! I always assumed Return to Dreamland was simply that Gamecube game on the Wii, but... I never ended up playing that game, so I had no idea it was so different!! I also never really went back to those screenshots until watching this video today, and now I also dream of the Kirby game that could've been. There's something about that Gamecube style that's aged a little better than Wii graphics

[@SuperWiiBros08]

Forgotten Land some to revisit that level design direction so gladly another element of Kirby GCN that's being brought back

[@pearshapedbrain]

Kirby's return to dreamland will always have a special place in my heart. It was the first game I ever really played all the way through, hard mode and everything. The plot was fucking amazing for litte kid dipshit me, and having played other games since i think that it is the most allround good game in the seires. Good video, I love seeing pointless trivia about things i like

[@pearshapedbrain]

seeing what it could have been is so weird, and i wonder if it would have made my opinion of it any different

[@kholdkhaos64ray11]

My assumption for why Kirby GCN didn't really appease their quality causing them to change it to Return to Dreamland is because the camera and environment weren't really suited for multiplayer play. Look at the camera angle for the robot boss for example. The angle to that would be crazy with 4 players trying to fight it with all the ability effects going. As they kept going, they probably thought standardizing the level design and flattening it out was more appropriate for that type of co-op game. They might have also thought that if they were going to do that, they might as well tailor the aesthetic to be more nostalgic to games that looked like that such as the Adventure, Super Star, and Dreamland games. I have no sources to back that up, but that's just my theory

[@BugCatcherWill]

Holy shit I remember that Kirby Trailer!! I was obsessed with Crystal Shards as a kid and I can't count how many times I rewatched that trailer

[@Klaire_Fluffle]

Having also done a stupid amount of research into this game, especially back when we were given hope that it may someday be released, I agree with most of this. I don't quite know if I'd say I see Kirby 64 2 as much as I'd say Kirby 64 with "combat", so to speak, of Super Star. The way you move around with copy abilities in Kirby 64 is far too different from the way they work in Super Star for me to see Kirby GCN as another Kirby 64. That said, I fully agree with the dynamic camera angles and the feeling of being in an actual world are absolutely influenced from Kirby 64. I feel like this game had a lot of influences from other Kirby media, but the two strongest were Super Star and 64. That's why I, at least, can't see Return to Dream Land or Star Allies as the finished product of this game. They're very Super Star, they're very not Kirby 64. As far as what was said in the video, again, very well done, but I have to mention the gap between Kirby 64/the reveal trailer for Kirby GCN, and Return to Dream Land. It was pain all around, but do you remember that before Epic Yarn was revealed at E3, as they were building up to it, they used some of the promotional art from this game? It's why the Epic Yarn trailer felt wrong to a lot of people back then. They built up this Kirby game, and then we got Epic Yarn. Love that game, but it stung. I was half expecting you to bring it up when talking about the wait for this game and the eventual Return to Dream Land, and you didn't, so I disliked the video. jk I liked it of course and I'll share it because it's very well done !

[@GonzChannel]

When Epic Yarn came out I ignored it entirely and that's why I didn't acknowledge it lmao

[@rivers3k]

lets go KF talk that good talk frick gonz!

[@Klaire_Fluffle]

@@rivers3k recording my gonz call out post as we speak

[@SkywalkerSam64]

@@GonzChannel Did you ever hear about the secret space program? 😼🛸🛸🚀

[@BooDestroyer]

Epic Yarn stole RTDL's thunder as a result of that. They hyped the hell out of the former in 2010, but all the latter got in 2011 was an unceremonious post-show "Oh right, and we got this too, I suppose".

[@randomistough0]

4:45 this is the only time you could deal knockback to mini bosses in any kirby game ever

[@finkrat]

You remind me a ton of Scott The Woz. Presentation, thumbnails, writing... everything. Not that that's a bad thing! This video is sick.

[@arandomdudeontheinternet9310]

When the new director had to start working on kirby's return to dreamland he took a look at kirby gcn to see what made it be canceled and he said he found none

[@miimiiandco]

I believe Kirby GCN was scrapped, but many of it's assets were reused for Adventure Wii. The music from the trailer is The Arena theme, some of the backgrounds are re-used (thank you to torkirby's trivia video), HRD3 (the robot from the trailer) is in the game, and the game showcases Super Star-like abilities, like in Adventure Wii. Even Water is there - Water being a fan ability for the anime. The design of Water in Kirby GCN seems like a middleground between that and Adventure Wii.

[@Legoluigi26]

Return to Dreamland and the games that came after it truly are wonderful, but there's something undeniably special about Kirby GCN. Hal has given many nods to it, with how much of it is left in RtDL, the return of Morpho Knight, the Trailer Theme being triumphantly used in Supreme Ruler Coronation, and the whole friend system of Star Allies being a homage; I do appreciate these, don't get me wrong, but it's not quite the same. Perhaps it's the slightly grungier graphics of the GCN era, but nothing could truly ease the phantom pain of this game. Would I want to trade Kirby's streak of hits in the 2010s (and hopefully beyond) for Kirby GCN? Probably not, but I still find this game fascinating.

[@danielostrowski856]

I’ve just played through 64 for the first time on NSO, and the 2.5D style of it is really striking and lovely. It’s such a shame that because GCN never released we’ve never got a Kirby like that since 64, and now with Kirby becoming an actual 3D platformer, I wonder if we ever will

[@dariobenzina]

Fun fact: the music used in that trailer can be heard also in Return in Dreamland. The music plays when you fight a boss in the arena.

[@squadalaguydc]

I'll take this Diet Scott The Woz for now, since regular Scott is still on break :)

[@betterthanbrooklyn5806]

It was actually surprising for me to learn that a part of the map in the screenshot at 12:34 is used for the minibosses in The Arena. What a strange artifact...

[@StuartFknLil]

This was really interesting! As a person who has an extreme lack of Kirby knowledge I feel well informed about a Kirby game that never released.

[@YoBiddyLPs]

My Kirby play catalog is limited, but Crystal Shards was 100% my favorite and finding out we could have had a somewhat sequel but didn't actually upsets me. Great analysis and even greater video!

[@kaoruhirabayashi2038]

the level of qualityyyyyy of your videos is so high considering your sub number. hope you blow up

[@davidreeding9176]

God, Kirby brings me back, amazing mirror was the first video game I've ever played

[@stock_img]

Watching this video made me remember this incredible-looking fan game project called Kirby Cosmic Chaos! It was cancelled after Star Allies got announced iirc, which is a shame, but it seemed to capture the vibe of Kirby GCN really well.

[@GonzChannel]

Actually never heard of that until now, but it looks pretty neat!

[@rouge939]

Nice video. I know it doesn’t have that many views but keep up the good work bro

[@Drewdan]

Really nice video on a super underrated part of Kirby's history! Wish we got to see more of what this game would've been like, it seemed pretty cool!

[@Turbulation1]

and now we got some new footage of the game

[@iceypumpkinhead]

Hey at least they kept the bubble ability for squeak squad

[@PowPowSmash]

Great, now I want this game that we'll never get too ;-;

[@yayababatoto]

Never seen this channel before, but I knew within the first 18 seconds of this video that I’d be subscribing. Keep it up!

[@itz_sim0nd955]

I STILL LOOK FORWARD FOR THIS GAME TO BE RELEASED :,) This is the closest we got to a mix of the anime and the games Yes, there is star allies, but it doesn’t have those pale colours and style (yes I miss some enemies)

[@NeviTheLettyFan]

Pretty fun video, I never thought about this game like this.

[@daseankelley7806]

Crazy how the algorithm just now recommends me this video instead of doing it few years back, this was pretty great Besides that I did not know Kirby could run in Kirby's Air Ride and it just makes me want a fully 3d kirby game more

[@BobberWCC]

Finally, a morning upload. Nice.

[@PrimeTF]

Return to Dream Land and Star Allies were on opposite sides of the spectrum of the multiplayer argument. Return to Dream Land worked fine in singleplayer, but wasn't balanced for multiplayer. Star Allies was almost exclusively designed around multiplayer, but is weakened by playing alone. Also the comment about the natural looking level design, that's what they would end up doing for Forgotten Land. I love the theory that every single Kirby game ever made share connective tissue.

[@nintendoboy3605]

Why am I getting Scott the Woz vibes from this video?

[@flaregamer64]

Man this is good content for a 1K sub channel. Keep it up dude.

[@1234_Flux]

Kirby GCN became Subspace Emmisary and Return to Dream Land

[@itsmeAwestin]

Very nice vid. I waited for that gamecube kirby game for sooooo long

[@kthejynwey]

I've just found an old nintendo magazine talking about the game; thank you for the video ;-)

[@KnucklesMoive]

Found this from a retweet. Really well done on this. I been wanting to make a video on "Kirby Untitled" talking about many stuff you mentioned on here. I feel games from Kirby return to dream land and onwards took different ideas from this canceled one but sadly we may never know. I felt vibes of Kirby 64 especially since Kirby 64 was supposed to be 4 player aswell in the story mode.

[@LucasDarkGiygas]

Wow never heard of this. Thanks for bringing light to this.

[@CosmicSponge2004]

It's not an umbrella. It's called a *PARASOL!*

[@TheEclipsedLock]

Fantastic video. I'm hoping the big leaks that are coming from Nintendo also include the files within the project so we can look at them better

[@JesusDaLawd]

Finally someone else who loves kirby 64 as much as i do

[@idky6763]

This video is literally me, i wanted a 3d world but make it 2d, and the æsthetic of this game looked so gooood 😭😭😭😭

[@slateoffate9812]

3D was done with Forgotten Land(and hopefully more down the road), Story Book style with Return to Dreamland Deluxe, so all we need to complete the Kirby GCN recycled concepts are: HR-D3 appearing in the Main Story, not Extra Mode, preferably while keeping Dedede good, not evil. Pink Forest. Dynamic Camera Angles(which was done to an extent in the 3DS games). Canyon level replacing Desert. And the enemies exclusive to Kirby Air Ride returning, since Air Ride didn't have a story it's non-canon.

[@RetroHero64]

that giant gba in the back is rad ngl

[@EmeraldBlade98]

I called it untitled, unreleased or gnc

[@wantedasylum1091]

I am drawing out concepts for a sort of Dream Kirby Game, and it involves 5 Game Modes, 2 Minigames, and a Challenge mode.

[@YopAlonso]

Return to Dream Land uses the pop-up book aesthetic of the third project, with 3D assets from Kirby (Untitled) and 2D UI elements from that 3D Kirby game to give off that look, which in the end it made it look like a mash of elements that just sorta happened. Star Allies has the return of the helpers with a bigger focus on multi-player, but its single-player campaign is left in shambles as a result, making it pretty quick to finish. There have been instances where these ideas have resurfaced over to see the light again: the 3D project would see a new light in Kirby’s Blowout Blast, emphasizing on how inhaling and spitting enemies works in a 3D field, and Battle Royale, where it’s the same but with copy abilities. The music of Kirby (Untitled) was repurposed, most likely, for Return to Dream Land, new powers and appearances of those have surfaced back in new games, such as Water and Bomb’s new party hat. And... call me crazy, but a Kirby game where you explore a world with dynamic camera angles, a nice story with some really crazy ludonarrative dissonance, places that do feel like actual places like factories, ruins, etc., to me, that game is Planet Robobot. And you’re totally allowed to call me crazy on that. Fantastic video, I remember checking Nintendo’s older website basically every month to see new info on Kirby (Untitled) until it was not there one day anymore, saddest day of my 2008 me.

[@invadertak1001]

What i want to know is why did it take 20ish years for kirby to finally go 3d perspective platformer. When mario, zelda and sonic had already been there done that.

[@TheEazyDI]

Wonderful analysis!

[@Mustard_rat]

Damn, that scott the woz kickin' in.

[@Da_Trololz]

6:07 Kirby jumping *! After swimming !*

[@slateoffate9812]

I'm still angry Fire Phan Phan never got to be in a mainline Kirby game.

[@EnergyBurst2]

I had no idea this game was even planned to be a thing.

[@ConnectionstotheCross]

Yo this is good.. did not expect this. Ima sub

[@neito7103]

Did you know that this Kirby GCN was actually going to be called Kirby legend of the stars.

[@ExplodingWatermelons]

You should've mentioned that the music in the original trailer is in return to dreamland, the boss theme specifically. There's also that in rtdl's files, some of the songs are listed as "gck_(whatever)", presumably meaning 'gamecube kirby'.

[@Swaggicus]

The kirby adventure model and art style looks exactly the same as melee, nice

[@ShockHat734]

I’m pretty sure it’s the air ride one

[@awesomeocelot7475]

Honestly I’m pretty sure we are living in the worst possible timeline. Not only do we have all this....Crap going on in the world but we lost Waddle Dee,Adeleine,and King Dedede as fully playable characters in 64. But we also lost Kirby GCN....like the game looked so unique and I loved the way it looked.....

[@DarkLink1996.]

Weirdest part is, it's almost canon. It's referenced in the newer games about as often as any other Kirby

[@nago6109]

Gamecube Kirby looks so cleannn gamecube graphics look amazing, also the game was probably almost finished it seemed

[@traitorjoe4371]

great video gonz! however, i must disagree with your statement towards the end, as i do not believe skeletons are real

[@davimariee]

7:05 using the forbidden "YTP technique" I see

[@estrogwen]

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[@MiamiConfusion]

this is actually really good content

[@n00bminecraft]

New Gonz new gonz

[@sapofazbemechaebom1594]

I really wanna play this game I need to confirm the plot that I theorized

[@idkany293]

The angles in the trailer were only done for dramatic effect. Like come on did you really think you were going to fight HR-D3 at THAT angle?

[@Kirbun]

I've been thinking about this game as well, actually. Good timing on this video. Also, what skateboard Kirby Plush is that, and where can I buy one?

[@elementaliguana5880]

I would have really prefer Kirby Aventure coming out on the GameCube instead of Air Ride. Also if it makes you feel any better we might be getting a 3D Kirby game in 2021 or some kind of mainline game that will hopefully be similar to Kirby Adventure.

[@fghds9130]

I wonder if anything will leak of the original devolpment timespan between 2000-2003... Also interesting to think that kirby gcn could have released before amazing mirror

[@chevynxu362]

Now we have Forgotten Land as a full-fledged 3d game now, what do you think?

[@GonzChannel]

That game was actually godlike

[@letsreach0subscribers734]

FINALLY NEW GONZ!!!

[@letsreach0subscribers734]

What is the channel icon anyways?

[@GonzChannel]

It's a fripple

[@Cougy]

new Gonz!!

[@Butterstix2014]

While I like return to dreamland, I am upset they didn’t do the 2.5D thing that Kirby 64 did. Like, I’m so angry they didn’t do that. That’s the thing I’m most angry about. They better do it in the next game. I am not living with only Kirby 64 and Klonoa 1 and 2 being like the only 2.5D platformers. Edit: 12:04 Oh my god that’s my whole problem perfectly summarized.

[@eskimofr3nzy]

This video reminds me of a generic version of scott the woz. I mean this nicely lol

[@thesteammachine1282]

They should have just suck it up and release the game on gamecube and will just like zelda twilight princess did . The game was probably in quite the advanced development stage also for that amount of time .

[@iamkakashi20]

i was hyped for kirby adventure when i seen this in 2005 E3. i really wish this game releesed on the gamecube. it was sopose to releese but because the wii was only a year away they canclled it.

[@maricthehedgehog]

Actually They cancelled it cuz they learned how difficult it is to make a game that both single player and multiplayer

[@bambinazo123]

Kirby planet robobot has a pretty similar world build to Kirby 64 tho Edit: and Kirby and the forgoten land to

[@miimiiandco]

Maybe Kirby Adventure comes from the finished name, Kirby's Adventure Wii... The game's finished title in PAL regions, I mean. I doubt the name is official, though. I personally refer to the game as Kirby GCN. Edit: Apparently IGN made a KZbin video that's just the trailer, titling it Kirby Adventure.

[@CosmicSponge2004]

Kirby Air Ride was originally a N64 game

[@r0byl328]

I need that skateboard kirby

[@mage9111]

Your videos are so fucking good dude I wanna play that too now

[@rocks5232]

This guy looks like he could make the smash ultimate pr in the state of NJ while maining GnW but I think that’s just me.

[@ryanm8865]

YO PogChamp DID PogChamp GONZ PogChamp JUST PogChamp UPLOAD PogChamp A PogChamp VIDEO PogChamp

[@stickyallover7016]

I like Kirby and now you haven given me Kirby dread because I can’t play Kirby :,(

[@mazoku34]

soooo if you got to see the trailer of the new kirby? -? could you made a video with the idea of the untitle kirby could be the original idea of a 3d game /2d) like open world? -? and, I think for the untitle game is a formulate idea of a folow up to crystalshar64 and got separate to multitude game because is was complexe fir the time

[@flotick6441]

maybe kirby adventure is comming on gamecube in 2025 or not.

[@erwarnixx3553]

8:02 why the japanese/european box art its this??? I prefer to much the American version and the title... (btw its a AWESOME game and i will love it forever) Random story: in 2012 when i was buying kirby's adventure wii, the shopping assistant didn't know this title and he showed to me kirby's return to dreamland (actually was weird because i was 10 and i din't know this title was the NA version of the japanese/european). In the end he found in the storage the European copy and i buyed it for 40€ (Sorry for my English if i did mistakes)

[@guylivinginmaine]

I LOVE GONZ

[@SkywalkerSam64]

Hey, nice vid! Did you ever hear about the secret space program? 😼🛸🛸🚀

[@gamesonastick]

Crystal Shards is my fave just for the copy combos

[@pumpkinspice5848]

If you have 100k subs You need at least 10k do not be a dead channel Your channel has 1k subs and 600 views per video Thats 60% of your subs watching you So your channel is rising

[@Foulowe59]

Interesting...

[@tazo8658]

Hey, Gonz. Since you adressed it, do you think the Kirby formula would gain anything by transitioning to 3D?

[@GonzChannel]

I don't think it'd gain a lot but it'd be fun

[@CosmicSponge2004]

Link to the Kirby toy?

[@Sentientglass]

God i want to play this i just a 3d kirby game

[@Sand_Veil]

P good video mr gonz. U should do a video on donkey kong on coleco vision. 30 min video pls

[@gavingaming3918]

top 10 games?