A Super Exponential Power Tower

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@GiuseppeAriano
@GiuseppeAriano 21 күн бұрын
Mmm. One need first to prove convergence. Try to use as right hand 2 and 4. You'll have the same result i. e. sqrt2. That's impossible.
@surelyred
@surelyred 15 күн бұрын
True
@nikpuc9413
@nikpuc9413 18 күн бұрын
Задача решается в уме за 30 секунд. Логарифрируются левая и правая части. получается x^x^x^…*lnx=1 но x^x^x^… равно e. e*lnx=1. lnx=1/e следовательно x=e^(1/e)
@johnlv12
@johnlv12 21 күн бұрын
Let a_1=0^0, a_2=0^0^0, ..., a_n=0^(a_{n-1}) for n>2. Then, a_1=1, a_2=0^1=0, a_3=0^0=1, ... So, a_n alternates between 0 (n even ) and 1 (n odd). Therefore the infinite tower 0^0^0... does not converge.
@MortezaSabzian-db1sl
@MortezaSabzian-db1sl 20 күн бұрын
Separate limitation a_n=1 if n=2k-1 k∈N a_n=0 if n=2k k∈N Limitation with Delta Kroniker Or a_n=δ_(n,2k-1) k∈N Restriction in another way a_n=(1-(-1)^n)/2
@schatten3158
@schatten3158 17 күн бұрын
It is important to note that A^(B^C) ~= (A^B)^C The question is (X^(X^(X^(X^(X^....))))) = e not ((((((...^X)^X)^X)^X)^X)^X) = e
@black_eagle
@black_eagle 20 күн бұрын
Why do I have a hard time getting my head around the idea that this infinite exponential with an exponent greater than one (e^(1/e) =~ 1.44) converges? How can 1.44^1.44^1.44 ... converge? I must not be thinking about these infinite exponentials correctly.
@johnlv12
@johnlv12 20 күн бұрын
Let a_1=e^(1/e) =~ 1.44 and for n>1, let a_n=(e^(1/e))^a_{n-1}. Then, you can prove that a_n is always less than e by induction. Assume inductively that a_{n-1}
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 19 күн бұрын
​@@johnlv12 Right. And the fact that sequence is increasing can also be shown by induction. It's convenient to start the sequence at a₀=1, which is OK, as aₙ=(e^(1/e))^aₙ₋₁, implies a₁=(e^(1/e))^1=e^(1/e). Then clearly a₀
@TedHopp
@TedHopp 15 күн бұрын
10:42 "Can something converge to two different values?" is the wrong question. The real question is "Can more than one value of x converge to the same value?" That hasn't been answered. The second method suggests not, but the first method uses the Lambert W function, which has infinitely many branches. That creates three possibilities: (1) the choice of branch doesn't change the end result; (2) all but one branch correspond to spurious solutions; or (3) there are multiple solutions. Now the answer isn't so clear.
@Gezraf
@Gezraf 20 күн бұрын
but syber, the first method was just a turn over all the way back to what you did in the second method. you declared x^y = y as a formula, but in that scenario y = e
@SyberMath
@SyberMath 20 күн бұрын
You're right!
@giuseppemalaguti435
@giuseppemalaguti435 20 күн бұрын
x^e=e...x=e^(1/e)
@surelyred
@surelyred 15 күн бұрын
I recognized this problem from my own experimentation, i knew it was e^(1/e) from thumbnail
@maxvangulik1988
@maxvangulik1988 15 күн бұрын
e=x^e x=e^(1/e) easy
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely. No need o use tthe W function. He is tying himself in knots.
@arenje1
@arenje1 21 күн бұрын
One of my favorite channels
@SyberMath
@SyberMath 21 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😍 Let's spread the word 😜
@ericmiller6056
@ericmiller6056 20 күн бұрын
The initial equation is incoherent: it assumes that that the exponential tower of x's converges (to e), when it doesn't converge at all. At least not for any x > 1, ... so not to e.
@georgepaidas1132
@georgepaidas1132 21 күн бұрын
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@SyberMath
@SyberMath 21 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😄
@bkkboy-cm3eb
@bkkboy-cm3eb 20 күн бұрын
x^e = e e·lnx = 1 ∴x = e^(1/e)
@scottleung9587
@scottleung9587 21 күн бұрын
I used the second method.
@tejpalsingh366
@tejpalsingh366 21 күн бұрын
we can out e power also on x^ x^ e= e now solve .. can we put like that r not ??
@asheredude
@asheredude 21 күн бұрын
Isn't it what he did in 2nd method
@MortezaSabzian-db1sl
@MortezaSabzian-db1sl 20 күн бұрын
x^x^e=e Let x^e=a So x^a=e So we have two equations like this: a=x^e x^a=e Multiply both sides of the equation; a*x^a=e*x^e ln(x)a*e^(ln(x)*a)=ln(x)e*e^(ln(x)*e) Put both sides in the Lambert function a=e x^e=e so x=e^(1/e)
@asheredude
@asheredude 20 күн бұрын
@@MortezaSabzian-db1sl Similar to what he did
@iikebaana
@iikebaana 20 күн бұрын
You need to prove that x^y=y. It works only in specific cases
@phill3986
@phill3986 21 күн бұрын
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