Integrate x^-x dx

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Prime Newtons

Prime Newtons

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@Modo942000
@Modo942000 4 ай бұрын
It's really interesting how the integration of the original function between 0 and 1 ends up being equal to the infinite discrete sum of the same function starting from 1. I'm not sure why but it just feels fascinating that something like this exists.
@letao12
@letao12 4 ай бұрын
I got the same feeling. There must be some interesting symmetry. On the other hand, I also feel like the answer isn't any more helpful than the original question 🤣
@夢と希望-d8y
@夢と希望-d8y 4 ай бұрын
I can think of the Riemann integral from the shape of the function and the intervals of the integral and series, but I can’t quite come up with a way to express the Riemann sum properly.
@hammondkakavandi7738
@hammondkakavandi7738 2 ай бұрын
@@letao12 the power in answer is negative and it is sum rather than integration... it can be calculated by a computer easily with some approximation so I think it is very helpful answer
@alexwarner3803
@alexwarner3803 2 ай бұрын
​@hammondkakavandi7738 the power in the original integral is negative also man. 1/(x^x) = x^(-×)
@kyoukaiten3834
@kyoukaiten3834 2 ай бұрын
​@@letao12 if you learn integral properly in calculus, you'll know it's not really that surprising, considering integral comes from limit to infinity of the sum of the function.. This is why we learn calculus, the study of limit, we must never forget the origin of derivative and integral, that they are all just limits..
@jmmc6219
@jmmc6219 4 ай бұрын
It feels like I am watching a Mathematical opera when ever I watch your videos. The drama! The suspense! Bravo 👏
@dannysigurdson7108
@dannysigurdson7108 4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile I feel like I'm being tied down and mathematically sodomized
@madushansamudika4543
@madushansamudika4543 4 ай бұрын
"Never stop learning.If you stop learning. Stop living..." I appreciate you very much.. Nice explanation and nice question..
@ranae6566
@ranae6566 4 ай бұрын
I think it’s “those who stop learning stop living”. Not to be nitpicky but changing “those” to “if” makes it sound like you’re suggesting suicide if they stop learning😂
@madushansamudika4543
@madushansamudika4543 4 ай бұрын
@@ranae6566 learning means not only studies..
@slimanemzerguat3298
@slimanemzerguat3298 2 ай бұрын
​@@ranae6566 I literally liked his version better. Bro was like if you stop learning I will be personally looking for you
@tessfra7695
@tessfra7695 4 ай бұрын
I really like that sir shows it's OK to back track & re-think when we reach a road block in solving
@kevinbush4300
@kevinbush4300 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it's very reassuring
@DavidLocke-s4r
@DavidLocke-s4r 4 ай бұрын
He sees the future that we have never, as of yet, seen, then he backtracks.
@sovietwizard1620
@sovietwizard1620 4 ай бұрын
Yes I agree, but I think this is very common in calculus especially.
@tessfra7695
@tessfra7695 4 ай бұрын
I subscribe to a few other maths channels..all of them just show the right way(s) of getting to the ans..here, we get to understand WHY a particular way won't work, & how to get around/through/above the block..much appreciated!
@eng954
@eng954 4 ай бұрын
As an ex calculus private teacher i appreciate your expression so much.Your english and explanation is so clear.
@stevebeal73
@stevebeal73 4 ай бұрын
I just loved this and your whole approach. As a 74 year old UK guy who took his BSc in 1971, I am indeed still learning. Thank you!
@johnclymo3668
@johnclymo3668 4 ай бұрын
I thought your comment was good to see that at your age you are still learning . I am sure the education system has changed since you were at uni.
@davidtallent8161
@davidtallent8161 4 ай бұрын
Excellent teacher! It is so refreshing to experience mathematics taught well. His enthusiasm and knowledge makes the difficult easy.😊
@renesperb
@renesperb 4 ай бұрын
You do a very good job explaining the solution.The result is really nice.
@smftrsddvjiou6443
@smftrsddvjiou6443 4 ай бұрын
Wow, did not expect that is so complicated.
@dangernuke929
@dangernuke929 4 ай бұрын
That was spectacular! Beautifully done!
@arantheo8607
@arantheo8607 4 ай бұрын
Clear and detailed explanation of the steps taken to tackle the problem , thank you , opera writer !
@asparkdeity8717
@asparkdeity8717 4 ай бұрын
It really feels like a Sophomore’s Dream!
@zealous2835
@zealous2835 4 ай бұрын
Man I aspire to understand math this well one day. I don’t know how to do any of this but the way you work and alter the math so intricately is beautiful
@XAnshTheGamerX
@XAnshTheGamerX 2 ай бұрын
never in my life did i think i would sit and watch such a crazy integral be solved yet here i am. amazing
@TheEndlessVoid-f6b
@TheEndlessVoid-f6b 23 күн бұрын
I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO PROUD OF MYSELF USING THE SAME EXACT WORKING OUT IN THE VIDEO
@butch2kow549
@butch2kow549 3 ай бұрын
One of your BEST videos that I have seen of yours. I really enjoyed it.
@peterpeter4134
@peterpeter4134 4 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation! You are even better than some math professors!🎉
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 4 ай бұрын
Haha. That's hard to prove.
@alt_account4866
@alt_account4866 4 ай бұрын
Really good video! Even though I'm not that good with math, I find you videos really understandable!
@marasw
@marasw 4 ай бұрын
most intellectual 20 minutes & 36 seconds of my life. Thanks
@samoraco2960
@samoraco2960 Ай бұрын
This Professor is genius
@jeromevatrinet3432
@jeromevatrinet3432 3 ай бұрын
This teacher is absolutely awesome. I am really a fan of his way to explain. Perfect !
@ricardoneves5094
@ricardoneves5094 2 ай бұрын
amazing!! beautiful result!
@malayrojak
@malayrojak 4 ай бұрын
Well the ending was a Revelation! Thanks for sharing!
@95nishanth
@95nishanth Ай бұрын
You earned a subscriber bro. Hats off
@rayhanalam9651
@rayhanalam9651 2 ай бұрын
The video felt very interactive because instead of directly showing us the solution, you walked us through the problems by showing us the various ways you tried to approach the problem.
@jakehobrath7721
@jakehobrath7721 Ай бұрын
Hey PN, you’re getting a lot of attention from other channels lately. It’s well deserved brother, god bless you and your work.
@markorletsky5976
@markorletsky5976 4 ай бұрын
That made my Sunday evening pleasant.
@BartBuzz
@BartBuzz 4 ай бұрын
Watching this video was mesmerizing! Now, I want to know what that infinite series converges to.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 4 ай бұрын
1.29129
@BartBuzz
@BartBuzz 4 ай бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons Thanks! I'm 79 and still learning!
@geertfdevries9518
@geertfdevries9518 4 ай бұрын
do a spreadsheet, it converges very fast, after some six terms to 1.291286
@ahalfemptycup
@ahalfemptycup 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you all's scientific curiosity, but what is the point of computing the numerical value of a converging series if you can't prove its convergence, can't write it in simple terms usually involving natural numbers and usual constants and without having a manual method of solving the series.
@eng954
@eng954 4 ай бұрын
@@BartBuzz Same here..i am 70.
@9645kanava
@9645kanava 4 ай бұрын
Top quality! Grateful for this teaching!
@user-kc4dj8mb6m
@user-kc4dj8mb6m 3 ай бұрын
This guy explained math in a very detailed way.
@VenkateshSundararajan-tr6ve
@VenkateshSundararajan-tr6ve 4 ай бұрын
very beutifully done. i just love the way you put up an act of a few fumble here and there - fumbling like any average student would. Please do a video on tests for convergence. the answer for this integral converges to approx 1.29129. i would have preferred if you had finished off the video with a quick evaluation of the infinite sum - may be calculating 5 or 6 terms to show how quickly this converges. from a student perspective she is going to demand the value of the infinite sum at the final answer. ofcourse if i were the techer i would have said “thats left as an exercise”😅😅😅
@tangential-research-ql5yd
@tangential-research-ql5yd 4 ай бұрын
Pleasant videos! I'll have to spend some hours to understand all the details here, but I think I'll set aside an evening for just that!
@bawatabetando6902
@bawatabetando6902 Ай бұрын
You know your stuff Man. Keep on.
@MathHakim1
@MathHakim1 2 ай бұрын
Great, yet easy presenting approach.I like your channel.
@fmga
@fmga 3 ай бұрын
You draw your xs so perfectly
@epsilonxyzt
@epsilonxyzt 4 ай бұрын
Never Stop Teaching!
@suryaeffendy1152
@suryaeffendy1152 Ай бұрын
Your voice is soothing
@tanguss06
@tanguss06 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for you vidéo from France 🇫🇷 Well explained 👌🏼
@محمدالنجفي-ظ1ه
@محمدالنجفي-ظ1ه 3 ай бұрын
God this is epic
@РусскийПатриотЯша
@РусскийПатриотЯша 3 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest I have no idea why someone would ever want to learn how to do these kind of integrals, as I don’t see a reason to use them anywhere in real life problems, but I recognise your math skills to be a thousand times better than mine, and your videos to be a lot helpful to get ready for Math exams at uni, so, kudos.
@alltronics1337
@alltronics1337 4 ай бұрын
19:10 Isn’t the integral equal to (n-1)!, because it is gamma(n). But previously you established gamma(n+1) as equal to n! and not (n+1)!
@justcommenting5117
@justcommenting5117 4 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing
@asparkdeity8717
@asparkdeity8717 4 ай бұрын
No, the integral is n! since: Γ(z) = (z-1)! = ∫[0 to ∞] t^(z-1) e^(-t)dt i.e. Γ(z+1) = z! = = ∫[0 to ∞] t^z e^(-t)dt The power of the integrand is itself shifted in the definition of the Γ function
@Jeremy-i1d
@Jeremy-i1d 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for another wonderful video and what a beautiful and fascinating result. As an alternative approach. I had the idea of trying to compute the Riemann sum for the integral: Lim as n tends to infinity of the sum from r = 1 to n of 1/n*(r/n)^~(r/n) directly. But so far I have not been able to do this. I also had the idea of proving the result you found by considering the difference between this sum, re expressed in the form: lim as n terns to infinity of the sum from r = 1 to n of r^-r and the above Riemann sum This is potentially easier I think, by establishing an upper bound, in terms of n, on the mod of this difference, and then showing that this bound is 0 in the limit as n terms to infinity. But so far I have not been able to do this either. I would be interested if you or others know if either of these alternative approaches can be made to work for this particular problem. Again, than you for your blessed and inspirational videos ❤
@krit05007
@krit05007 4 ай бұрын
LOVE YOU DUDE
@omograbi
@omograbi 11 күн бұрын
There must be a continuation, you must evaluate the sum whether it converges or diverges, which it is converging. The irony of this answer that it resembles the original sum so that if we try to evaluate it by method of integration we end up with the same integral.
@Al-Shorman
@Al-Shorman 4 ай бұрын
And the sum from (k=1) to ∞ of [k^(-k)] = 1.29128599706 and thx for the great video
@_PEPSISUCKS
@_PEPSISUCKS Ай бұрын
4:03 😂😂😂 I'm dead. I havent laughed that hard in a math video in a long time. Hahahaha 😆 😂 😆 But for real... I hate this problem... sometimes I wish math was easier.
@ultrasteamcarpetcleaning3207
@ultrasteamcarpetcleaning3207 4 ай бұрын
WOW!! Outstanding!! I did not foresee a Gamma Function was going to be applied.
@AndrejPanjkov
@AndrejPanjkov 4 ай бұрын
I'd approach it via the lambert W function. If that pays off, then your result gives an interesting expansion for W(x)
@abd_cheese7353
@abd_cheese7353 Ай бұрын
This man is like the bob ross of calculus!
@arararara2382
@arararara2382 3 ай бұрын
Well, you need to prove the uniform convergence of that series to be able to switch integral ans series sum.
@MassinNissa-nn2xx
@MassinNissa-nn2xx Ай бұрын
Thx for the dominate convergence theorem
@MeiziVu
@MeiziVu 4 ай бұрын
Love uuuu ❤
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 4 ай бұрын
Love uuuu tuuu
@NachiketVartak
@NachiketVartak 2 ай бұрын
You just did something called discretisation. You essentially converted an integral of a continuous function 1/x^x to a sum of the same function of n+1 where n is an integer.
@MinhNguyen-ij5md
@MinhNguyen-ij5md 3 ай бұрын
Not sure that I understood everything but it's awesome!
2 ай бұрын
from Morocco thank you for your clear wonderful explanations
@cesarluis6335
@cesarluis6335 Ай бұрын
Pretty funny and pretty beautiful.
@joefreiburg2716
@joefreiburg2716 4 ай бұрын
Einfach genial!! Und so was von unterhaltsam 🙂 (Genius and best Entertainment!!)
@tanelkagan
@tanelkagan 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating video about the process but I'm not quite sure what we achieved - given the form of the solution looks so very similar to the original integral 🤔
@Grecks75
@Grecks75 3 ай бұрын
In terms of computing the integral's value? Not much (if anything at all). But the result looks very interesting _because_ of the similarity.
@HadestheCoat
@HadestheCoat Ай бұрын
Amazing solutions. I felt like I was watching the crucial scene of John Wick. (Last sentence translated.)
@Naomi_stephy
@Naomi_stephy 4 ай бұрын
Hooooo , hermoso , me quedé pegada viendo, que lindas son las matemáticas❤
@aljawad
@aljawad 4 ай бұрын
That was a juicy one! ❤
@hasansawaf8616
@hasansawaf8616 4 ай бұрын
love it ❤
@Toldasor
@Toldasor 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting problem and clear explanation. Also you have such a lovely voice
@geertfdevries9518
@geertfdevries9518 4 ай бұрын
and such perfect handwriting on blackboard ! A joy to behold.
@raoufbenallegue7290
@raoufbenallegue7290 2 ай бұрын
so int 0 -> 1 x^(-x) = sum 1 -> inf x^(-x) *mindblowing*
@johnplong3644
@johnplong3644 4 ай бұрын
I have not done calculus in over 40 years .This is beyond what I am currently capable of doing.I am College level Algebra I couldn’t pass pre-calculus / Trigonometry right now .
@petermaling943
@petermaling943 2 ай бұрын
It’s more than half a century since I last studied maths, but I’m still a bit wary of your answer. I think you need to show that that series actually exists and is well defined. Unfortunately I can’t remember the conditions for convergence.
@cahlelnegnaclklmen8446
@cahlelnegnaclklmen8446 2 ай бұрын
14:36 how is flipping the integral by the negative sign even a step? They means the same, both mean the definite integral from 0 to infinite, I don't understand at all
@Slitherman96
@Slitherman96 2 ай бұрын
In integration the order of the numbers matter and when you reverse the numbers you get the negative of the value.
@ManojkantSamal
@ManojkantSamal 4 ай бұрын
{1/(-x+1)}.(x)^(-x+1) The upper limit (1/0).(x)^0=infinite Lower limit 1.x=x=0 Infinite -0=infinite
@dronevluchten
@dronevluchten 4 ай бұрын
I agree with @misteribel that you replaced one riddle with another one. And solving that one, gives the first again. The only thing (okay, a great find) you showed is that some finite integral of x to the power -x can be replaced by an infinite sum of more or less the same function. What I missed in this video is what in fact is the meaning or consequence of this result.
@sovietwizard1620
@sovietwizard1620 4 ай бұрын
It's the non-closed form solution for the definite integral thats much easier to evaluate than the integral by itself.
@faresadayleh488
@faresadayleh488 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great illustration, however I'm not sure what has been achieved here, all I can notice that the original integral is replaced by the sum of the similar function, which is basically the integration 🤔 Not sure if I'm seeing the full picture here!
@edisonnogalesantezana4761
@edisonnogalesantezana4761 2 ай бұрын
"now, can this be easily integrated?... no :("
@Misteribel
@Misteribel 4 ай бұрын
So, we go from one over x to the x, and the integral from 0 to 1 of that equals the sum of k=1 to infinity of k to the minus k, which is one over k to the k. But what does this approximate? You've rewritten a finite integral into an infinite sum (of the same function), but that's only one step.
@zzambezi1959
@zzambezi1959 4 ай бұрын
But the infinite sum is always defined as a limit, which is in this case a certain (finite) constant, I think.
@alexwarner3803
@alexwarner3803 2 ай бұрын
​@@zzambezi1959Wolfram Alpha gave the finite answer of: ≈1.29128599706266
@johanneshagel3609
@johanneshagel3609 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, this was a perfect presentation, congratulations! One question still remains: Is there a closed expression for sum_(k=1)^infinity(k^(-k)) ? It can easily numerically be computet but the question would be, if this number can be expressed as a multiple of pi , e or whatever. Would be very interesting to know!
@boumbastik
@boumbastik Ай бұрын
Does sum from (k=1) to ∞ of [k^(-k)] converge ? If yes, could you demonstrate it please ?
@johannkarrer2823
@johannkarrer2823 4 ай бұрын
Chapeau 👌🙏👍
@shevchyc
@shevchyc 3 ай бұрын
I'm a little bit confused. He started with an integral[0,1] of x^(-x) and ended up with a sum, that basically is sum[1,infinity] of x^(-x) 🤔 what's the clue?
@CharlesAbernathy-u6r
@CharlesAbernathy-u6r 4 ай бұрын
Can you teach a full course on calculus from beginning through Cal III?
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 4 ай бұрын
That is my new goal. I'm working on it
@aravindhvijayanandan3010
@aravindhvijayanandan3010 29 күн бұрын
Hakuna Matata 🎉🎉🎉
@kquat7899
@kquat7899 4 ай бұрын
Sloane's constant ~ 1.29...
@DJ_Kamenskuy
@DJ_Kamenskuy 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting ! Thank you for your solution
@a4edits709
@a4edits709 4 ай бұрын
Hey newtons, I’m a 10 year old learning calculus, I know a lot (not like a whole college course) I’ve started Calculus 3, So I need help and my exams are there too. everything’s to me is easy. I started in February of my advanced mathematics learning when I was 9.
@royprasad
@royprasad 4 ай бұрын
Wow. My compliments!
@teonikkanen1295
@teonikkanen1295 2 ай бұрын
At 15:37 why doesnt he take the factor of exp(n+1) out of the integral since its just a constant?? Then he would leave the t^n•exp(-t)??
@Slitherman96
@Slitherman96 2 ай бұрын
He can’t take it out because it’s not strictly a factor, it’s actually (exp(n+1))^(-t) or equivalently (exp(-t))^(n+1), by exponent rules
@johnjohnson9567
@johnjohnson9567 2 ай бұрын
If it were e^((-n+1)+t) then he could simplify it as a product of e^(-n+1) and e^t but since the powers are multiplied then the respective form here would be e^(-n+1)^t, in which case you can only isolate the e^t via a root of -n-1
@IgorP-t1z
@IgorP-t1z 2 ай бұрын
A bit disappointing, How is the series better than the integral?
@emanuele4425
@emanuele4425 3 ай бұрын
Why didnt you take out e to the n+1 before introducing variabile r? Its just a finite number
@82rah
@82rah 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Great job.
@Siraj-123-q5p
@Siraj-123-q5p 4 ай бұрын
I have one doubt here, how did you write (-1)^n as 1? Shouldn't it be kept as (-1)^n only in the final answer?
@Luis-lm2lg
@Luis-lm2lg Ай бұрын
INTEGRAL
@Berserker-n5w
@Berserker-n5w 4 ай бұрын
Sir , can we indefinitely integrate the function x^-x once as the form of a^x and once in the form of x^n and sum those 2 up and plug in the limits { for 0 (the limit) we could just substitute α and make α tend to 0}
@oniondeluxe9942
@oniondeluxe9942 4 ай бұрын
Could you do a more elaborate video on when you can swap an integral and a sum, and when you cannot? Preferably with some examples.
@alexwarner3803
@alexwarner3803 2 ай бұрын
Check out Dominated Convergence, monotone convergence, Fubini/Tonelli theorem(s),
@oniondeluxe9942
@oniondeluxe9942 2 ай бұрын
@@alexwarner3803 link to video?
@alexwarner3803
@alexwarner3803 2 ай бұрын
@@oniondeluxe9942 can't link on YT. It deletes the comment
@alexwarner3803
@alexwarner3803 2 ай бұрын
@oniondeluxe9942 and, I just read the Wikipedia articles and got their sources and tracked down texts tbh. They are in most analysis books probably. Fubini's was in My calc 3 text book, but Patrick JMT has a video on it if I remember correctly
@alexwarner3803
@alexwarner3803 2 ай бұрын
@oniondeluxe9942 sry I don't have more info.
@brunobruno9594
@brunobruno9594 3 ай бұрын
Wouaaaa 👍👍👍👏👏👏
@singlovehk0518
@singlovehk0518 4 ай бұрын
hello, is the final solution just a Riemann sum version of the integral? The last line looks like some high school questions on the limit of some summations, which those questions require kids to transform the sum into the integral to get the final answer. Thanks!
@INFERNO_GAMER1
@INFERNO_GAMER1 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@Tomorrow32
@Tomorrow32 4 ай бұрын
I love Math. Think you, sir.
@bobajaj4224
@bobajaj4224 4 ай бұрын
will this hold if 'a' is a complex number?😉
@surankande8296
@surankande8296 3 ай бұрын
so did the integral just convert to a more "discrete" form like earlier it was integral of all x^(-x) from 0 to 1 and in the end we are summing all k^(-k) for each natural k ... on the left we see is some summation of uncountable number of points but on the right its just some countable number of points .. am i missing something please help .. thank you
@himadrikhanra7463
@himadrikhanra7463 3 ай бұрын
1 / x ^x = y 1/ y = x ^x Log ( 1/y ) = x log x 1 = x / y log x 1 / log x = x / y X ^x = x log x Int .( 0 to 1 ) 1 / x log x 1 / x logx - 1 / x^2 Don't remember it right now I think in this boundary region the function is undefined means outside boundary ( not continuous, may have divergence) ?????????? Also may Don't have proper knowledge of mine in this matter
@marcoludovici6801
@marcoludovici6801 Ай бұрын
there is a way to check the solution is correct ?
@mohsenrezaei5965
@mohsenrezaei5965 3 ай бұрын
you miss a minus: right side of the board,third line: minus e to the minus t. am I right?
@blasdelezo8396
@blasdelezo8396 4 ай бұрын
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