A SUPER-Manipulator! | Tell Them You Love Me Review

[@Pozorrogo]

I think she was trying to steal him away from his family and start going 'pro' with him. Like take him places and give speeches and everyone can gawk at how amazing SHE is for loving someone like him. I think she had plans on writing books and such in his name, pretending to be him.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

You might be right about this.

[@WilliamsPinch]

Hmmmm this is an interesting theory.

[@sveredself1766]

100% agree. If she loved him and really believed he was communicating and was as intelligent and aware as she claimed she would be horrified by the life he’s now living and fighting tooth and nail to save him from it. If he really was what she said he was then wouldn’t it be a total nightmare for him to live a life like a baby with no means of communication anymore? The reason she doesn’t care about that is because she knows the truth - he isn’t living this rich life of the mind, he isn’t upset with how his family cares for him, he really does function on the 6-12 month old level as was established by an actual doctor who knows what they are talking about. Whole thing was a con, she was trying to get full control over him to prove FC was real and not junk science. She wanted to be the next Anne Sullivan. His family was a threat to her control over him, she thought if they were in a relationship or married somehow she’d be the end all be all in his life and she could carry on this farce.

[@Lynn-nx6ue]

This was my thought too. She may have even started the sexual part as an additional layer of control. She had already started taking him around to presentations. Some sort of savior complex like she thought she’d be the modern day miracle worker with the addition of being married to this man. She was making up her own fantasy world and living it out through him.

[@bigmona2741]

I agree and I think she knew damn well he wasn’t writing those things.

[@craigsmith6468]

I really felt sorry for the older brother. He is an educated man and trusted this educated woman. He must feel real guilt that he introduced the two and brought the predator into their lives (albeit well intentioned).

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes, I know he has so much guilt about this!

[@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac]

That absolutely broke my heart… I hope he’s healing

[@AnaLucia-wy2ii]

He shouldn’t feel guilt, but you know he does because our emotions aren’t rational. 😔 He’s such a great brother.

[@Mack2244]

Saying his nickname WRONG, telling his fam he prefers red wine!?!?! (like when did he have red wine???), and he prefers classical music!???? Tf is wrong with this psycho?!

[@tracysimon7972]

It pissed me off soooooo much

[@AnaLucia-wy2ii]

Don’t forget vegetarian…🙄

[@sidneyvadale]

This case was insane and the more I thought about it the more disgusting it became. She essentially was violating an infant. With his mental capacity there is no way he went from having pretty much a baby’s mentality to making sentences, reading books, and writing essays. It was so ridiculous and she needs to be treated like a PDFile.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes this was sick!

[@whitneymcnair2247]

Its something like the movie the accountant where the girl communicates through the computer but that wasn't him doing any of that this lady is sick

[@sidneyvadale]

@@whitneymcnair2247 you just put me on. I need to watch that movie.

[@whitneymcnair2247]

@@sidneyvadale its actually a great movie I've seen it over 6 times

[@ladedade23Blunticus]

I've been working in ABA for the past couple years...this is definitely a thing with wyte teachers and therapist towards blk boys. they either to affectionate or treat them like ...oh I'm going to save you from the overbearing or ineffectual blk women in your life. They try to undermine what you say but hollering and screaming for administrative intervention when the boy get violent or to affectionate. First time they hit me with the bs I step back and let them learn then as a behavior analyst and therapist I have to go in and undue all their abhorrent behavior teachings. They always think they can love or mother blk boys better than a blk woman. But don't understand our job isn't to be their mothers or friends it's to be teachers ,therapists, and advocates. Don't let it be a group of them and no blk woman or a weak blk woman who go along to get along...man I could tell horror stories how I've had to be reassigned just to go in and correct the damage behavioral wise.

[@misstiff29]

New sub here! As a clinical therapist my opinion only is she was not having psychosis. She knew right from wrong. I believe she deleveloped an obsession as a child for differently abled person. That obsession grew into a FETISH.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This is interesting given the number of other abled individuals she was introduced to as a child.

[@misstiff29]

@AxiomAmnesia For sure it's actually very scary. I think her grooming tactics began years ago. Not saying it was physical, I think something been off with her. It was ignored as her being helpful.

[@jggw2748]

I agreed. Her mother introduced her at an impressionable age to the behaviors of disabled people and more than likely her mother was so ENGROSSED in her work about disabilities the her mother DIDN'T PAY PROPER ATTENTION TO HER AS A CHILD. As a result she developed an UNHEALTHY emotion to having relationships. HER MOTHER IS THE MONSTER MORE THAN LIKELY. HER MOTHER STILL ENCOURAGES THIS UNHEALTHY BEHAVIOR DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE COURTS FOUND HER DAUGHTER GUILTY OF SUCH A DISGUSTING AND SHAMEFUL CRIME. SHE NEEDS SERIOUS PSYCHIATRIC CARE AND PRAYERS FOR SUCH DEMONIC ACTIONS. SAD❗️❗️❗️

[@thewanderingqueen725]

@@misstiff29it’s giving the same delusion as angel of death nurses and people that disable themselves. I think it points to a serious of very severe attention seeking disorders.

[@kayshostuff]

i think you guys missed the point on why the filmakers let her take the lead narration. Though it was painfully obvious she had no remorse. And looked glee-full when recounting her crime. I think it was important for her to tell her perspective because we can clearly see her delusion take place. And as more details from the brother , the mom, and others take form..you start to immediately understand that this B is off her rockers..like the more she talks the more she tells on herself. Its a way for the audience to make their own determination and honestly more impactful then them just telling the story and us never hearing her. Its her own words, her facial expressions , her thought process, her perspective that really places HER NAIL IN HER OWN COFFIN so to speak

[@Wtvrflotesurgoat]

Ya when the brother and mother said they couldn’t get him to use the typing machine my heart dropped into my stomach and I realized she had been lying all along. It was such a disturbing twist.

[@misshappinessandmissflower]

It was painful to hear her say that name, D'Man over and over again. I completely agree. It was just another way of violating him and imprinting herself on him/ alienating his wonderful family. I can't think about this without getting emotional, because his mother and brother's true, honourable devotion to Derrick, was absused by that woman, every bit as much as Derrick himself was abused. A horrible, insidious crime, committed by someone who still shows no remorse. I also feel for her ex husband and children. She has multiple victims and if she was allowed to, would very likely reoffend.

[@ericanation2458]

Junk Science! Absolutely disgusting what she did to Derrick. I read in a NY Times article that once Anna told D-Man's mom and brother that they were "in love" they invited Anna to the house to prove the device worked. Long story short, Derrick's mom and brother asked D-Man questions through Anna helping him with the keyboard device about their family that only Derrick would know and every question was answered wrong! Once they relized it was all a fruad they called the police. IDK why this fact wasn't in the documentary!?

[@lizmad8091]

They made it ambiguous and I found that appealing. This woman is a sexual predator. Treat her like you would a man!

[@iJoKRr1]

i’m thinking it was in part for entertainment, you think anne might be sympathetic until the end when you realize it’s a fraud

[@WilliamsPinch]

It was.

[@Lynn-nx6ue]

I hadn’t heard about this but I also kept wondering why they didn’t devote more time to showing and proving that she was really the one writing these things. Having conversations with herself like the guy who tested Derrick said.

[@butterflyraine281]

If you have a mental capacity of five years old then they don't even know about sex or have those needs. Nor would he speak the way she wrote it out with these long sentences. Makes me feel so sick to my stomach what she did to that poor man

[@joanna0988]

Yes actually they still have adult bodies and hormones. Someone's intellectual age doesn't sum up their whole being.

[@BridgetSmith-nb2pz]

They had a specialist to test him after her he testified head the mentality of a 6-12month old😢

[@WilliamsPinch]

Hormones are a thing.

[@butterflyraine281]

@joanna0988 okay, but the mom also said after her he started masturbating. So he didn't know anything about it beforehand. It didn't even register yet. Just doesn't sit right. In my opinion

[@joanna0988]

@@butterflyraine281 Yes that makes sense, he had the needs and didn't know how to handle them before her. This is a very tricky subject when it comes to adults with intellectual disabilities and I'm sure his mom didn't want to address it that's why they medicate him. I'm not saying what that weirdo woman did was right whatsoever, she abused him and her authority, however I don't believe he had no sexual urges prior to her.

[@RoyalBeachVibes]

In my opinion she calls him Deman because it sounds like a handsome black mans name like Davon or Deshaun. Dman is a young childs nickname. Its apart of her delusions.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Now that's an interesting take! 🤔

[@Lilianamarie999]

I totally agree. It was part of her fantasy that he was more sophisticated and only she could see him that way.

[@me61840]

like "deman" is crazy

[@HeyyyitsLissy]

That’s what I thought too. Like she was trying to class it up for her people. SMH

[@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac]

That’s a really good point!! I was thinking along the infantilization line… “D-man” is not an adult-type nickname, and I don’t think anyone would have called him D-man if he was able-bodied and cognitively unimpaired. They’d just call him Derrick. But it was so confusing to me WHY she persistently said “Deman’” like demand without the D - especially when HIS FAMILY clearly said “D-🚹” I think you might be onto something!

[@Kiadinero]

I was so disgusted with this story , yes everyone deserves love but Anna literally took advantage of Derrick and crossed the line as a professional!! And anna’s mother is just as crazy making excuses for her actions..

[@dimplesd8931]

Mary Kay Letourneau all over again. She said “he came on to me first” 🤨 People with cognitive impairment have varying degrees of impairment. Often they have sexual urges but depending on the level of impairment it’s not an issue anymore than any other bodily feeling is. Others who are higher functioning cognitively and physically may be able to relieve themselves or may be able to have a partner. I feel sorry for him because he had feelings that he didn’t know how to relieve himself and over time he learned to ignore it. Now he’s going to be upset that he has urges and no one is helping him address them. She should’ve served the whole 12yrs. The prosecutor could’ve appealed the decision or retried the case. Thank goodness she didn’t get pregnant.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes and Mary Kay went on to have all those kids with that young man and he spent his youth trying to raise them while she was in and out of prison for not staying away from him. They stayed together after though... Until she passed away.

[@dangelamarx80]

I don’t think a Man with the mental capacity of a 6 month old would have sexual urges. Hungry, sleepy, happy, sad. That’s about it.

[@WilliamsPinch]

@@AxiomAmnesia Vili separated from Mary and only reunited with her after her cancer was terminal. He was finally getting free.

[@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac]

YES!! That and the schoolgirl giggling… 🤮 Mary Kay was doing that in that one documentary where she was the primary talking head, like Anna was here

[@loriannalamuse9089]

This is so gross. She should be in jail for the rest of her life

[@hartzaire]

As someone myself who has cerebral palsy it is clearly obvious she took full advantage of him and his family’s wishes and hopes for him. Because if it was done correctly he would have been able to use the assistive technology independently like a communication device or a iPhone those are some of the assistive technology’s people with cerebral palsy use I have use my iPhone as assistive technology when doing my homework and a text reader and using assistive technology since I was seven years old due to long form writing being a challenge due to my CP.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you so much for weighing in on this with your own personal experiences. ❤️❤️❤️

[@deborahadams113]

I believe that if Derrick could truly communicate through the FC technology surely his Mum & brother would of been able to successfully assist him , after all they know Derrick better than anyone. I believe Anna was shaping & moulding Derrick into something she desired , she crossed a line & should have known better !

[@AxiomAmnesia]

I agree that there should have been some objective proof that Derrick was speaking through the device, but it seems that Anna was the only one who got these results. That made me skeptical right away.

[@deborahadams113]

@@AxiomAmnesia yes I agree , also if Anna was genuine surely she would of really encouraged Derricks mum & brother to be able to facilitate the communication themselves . Anna appears to have wanted to be “ her superpower “ which is a big red flag . This is such a sad story

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yep!

[@EmilyElizabethxox]

Exactly. But Ana tried to frame it like he didn’t communicate with them because he was mad at they weren’t adhering to her wishes and he only felt comfortable with her. Like if everything Ana was saying was true, I’m sure Dman would have been dying to speak directly to his mother and brother the second he had the opportunity to be alone with them. It’s all so crazy.

[@Amy-cc8yj]

i also hated when they interviewed Anna’s mother during the trial and had the audacity to say that D-Man’s mother was “parading his disability”. LIKE WHAT??? the producers kept that in smhhh

[@AF-gy7vu]

thank you for calling out the biggest factor in this story that doesn’t make sense. i’ve been so confused about how in the world did he learn how to write and read over night ?! why would the family or anyone believe that he can learn how to write and read over night

[@AxiomAmnesia]

And the excuse was that he learned by watching and observing people. That's not how learning to read and spell works. This was the biggest red flag of all!

[@AF-gy7vu]

@@AxiomAmnesia no way that’s not how it works, writing and reading takes someone teaching you. even if he did learn it in that matter which sounds insane but even if he did it would have been over a course of years not a matter of days or weeks

[@WilliamsPinch]

@@AxiomAmnesia exactly! Pure madness.

[@SCK-vk1so]

I assumed he had schooling because he was over the school age. They do teach until age 22 in my state.

[@hunterhansen79]

Anna preyed on the hopes of that family. She is sickening.

[@ndiamond3405]

Yes, her mispronouncing D-Man (emphasis on the D) as d’MAN was so absolutely annoying. Made me cringe. This woman is wack.

[@heyitsmyTeeTa]

Junk science::OMG!!!! This documentary was crazy. That lady ain't right. I believe since she is out in the free world she needed to be registered as a sex offender. I hated how she tried to take a light hearted approach to her side of the story.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yeah I agree. She needs professional help if she's gonna be out here in the world with the rest of us. This story was so outrageous though! And it's like she takes no responsibility for what she did to her victim.

[@heyitsmyTeeTa]

@@AxiomAmnesia what really pissed me off was her saying (multiple times) that he seduced her!!! It was the amount of audacity she met Mrs. Daisy with that made me want to slap her. 😂😂😂

[@hunterhansen79]

It proves how insane and delusional she is.

[@rhondamallard9090]

Yes, Derrick had Cerebral Palsy, but what other diagnosis does he have. Profound Intellectual Disabilities, 3-6 month old babies do not take college courses.

[@judithwilliams3147]

What ? What course did he take ?

[@bigmona2741]

I have no sympathy for Anna. If it were a man doing this to a patient, male or female, no one would try to explain it or care about his mental health issues.

[@erica9314]

What really tripped me out was the whole thing with sharonda the other communicator. This is crazy af.

[@maxmanx1294]

Its suspicious that she was the only other person who could help him & it was that one time. Her roommate was in the same class & according to Sheronda wrote a similar paper.

[@erica9314]

@@maxmanx1294 right and she said she hadn’t read or talked about the book. It’s strange.

[@EmilyElizabethxox]

You have to consider the immense pressure Sharonda was under to ensure what Derrick produced was up to Ana’s standards of what she expected of him and told Sharonda he was capable of. Ana was high up in the department and influential. Also, when you read what Derrick actually “wrote”, the context has very little to actually do with the book. Sharonda knew it was about a slave, implying they felt trapped, and used this as a concept to relate to Derrick’s feeling of being trapped due to his disability. It would be more convincing if he had added further context related to the book that couldn’t just be garnered from the back cover.

[@wellstmb]

My heart broke for this family. She should've never got out.

[@dangelamarx80]

Isn’t it wild how an ethics professor or doctor or judge could literally be insane and think this irrationally in their private life ?

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This was her PROFESSIONAL life...

[@EmilyElizabethxox]

She built her entire identity and focus in life from an extremely young age on a notion that profoundly disabled people are not actually as disabled as they seemed. Which ironically enough is quite ableist. I mean of course we should give people every opportunity to show the world what they are capable of, but in Derrick’s case, he just was who he was. And that’s fine too. He had a nice life before she got involved and tried to take him out of it. The fact that she actually thought she was going to put him in an independent living situation really shows her level of delusion in this situation.

[@rhondamallard9090]

I wish they would have mentioned that every other area in his functioning remained the same except his new found ability to communicate only with the help of Anna. Still profound intellectual disability in every other area and needing physical assistance in every other area. She should be in JAIL!!

[@elizabethfaraone]

Junk science. think she knew she was doing the typing herself. I agree with her husband - that she is a master manipulator. She was a predator and she hurt that family SO MUCH. I am so sickened by predators often get away with their crimes.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Hey Lizzy!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@mlisaj1111]

I have worked in medicine, and it’s often hard to tell which is worse regarding those that offer junk science, fake treatments: those that know they are faking, or those that believe it’s all real.

[@superflynat]

Junk Science!! Omg she most definitely deserves to still be in jail after she SA-ed Dman! This was a disgusting abuse of power!

[@stacieschmidt8658]

Anna had a pygmalion complex. She fell in love with herself and made him the false object of her attraction.

[@UniqueLibra1981]

this is different and thanks for telling us more. These stories of abuse and using positions of authority to manipulate is heartbreaking

[@AxiomAmnesia]

It is so heartbreaking and it feels like Derrick didn't get justice.

[@shaquilleanderson1887]

The description on Netflix is so misleading.. I thought it was gonna be something completely different lol

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yeah, Netflix's goal is to have you watch whatever they make. They often mislead and drag stuff out.

[@shaquilleanderson1887]

@@AxiomAmnesia yeah and the cover picture was his brother hugging him.. from that picture and a description I legit thought it was an LGBTQ couple being discriminated against because one of them was dead or something.. totally misread the room 😂😂😂😂

[@CharmednerdLocs-b1n]

Everybody suffered behind this woman's actions...The victim, family of the victim, her ex-husband n her own children. Im assuming she lost some degree of custody during their divorce. Imagine explaining that to her children, which will see the documentary eventually...just tragic all ways around. #JunkScience

[@selinadeloach6680]

Weird savior complex at play here.

[@chloatron]

Thank you SO much for acknowledging the "how did he learn to read" question! It's been bothering me so much and no one's brought it up. How can he type things out with her help if he doesn't even know the alphabet?

[@toyaJM]

I use to have a regular customer who was a sex educator specifically for those who limited mental and physical capabilities and she actual taught how to clients how to fulfill their needs and even had toys that she created for their specific needs.

[@TheBlackLightProject]

The storytelling is done in a way that shows how the relationship unfolded in real life. The family and Anna WERE on the same page when it began, then the clues that something was wrong trickled in, and then the big reveal. That reveal was shocking and made you question everything you thought you knew. We are to experience it the way THEY experienced it; even the way Anna’s crazy tail experienced it. If they’d done a series they could talk about sexual abuse of disabled people, racial discrimination in disability cases, gender issues, etc. They had an hour and 45 minutes and made people have a lot of conversations. And yes she should be in jail.

[@AntonDogg]

She wanted to swoop in and be the white liberal savior, have him "write a book" and become rich and famous off of him. I can't stand these types.

[@NolaFlower]

The filmmaker claimed to be impartial, but it was clearly formatted in a way that made us feel sympathy for Anna. They withheld certain facts or presented them in a way that was sympathetic to Anna. My main thing was that the mat caused scars and bruises, that means it hurt. You can’t tell me that he didn’t say that he was in pain. That’s where it fell apart for me. JUNK SCIENCE and she should be in jail

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yep!

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

JUNK SCIENCE!!! Thank you guys for liking my fun facts & i appreciate the shout out. I think Anna should be arrested. On a side note i’m from Alabama & i’m a music connoisseur. I love southern hip-hop as well.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

You know we look forward to your fun facts!!! It's always interesting! 😊

[@justatexasgirl5583]

This woman is foul and should be in prison.

[@evannegregory5509]

I watched the doc and you brought up a point I didn't think of. How the heck could he spell if he never learned to read. Her has the mentality of a baby. She treated him like a toy. I feel for this Mother and brother, and if course Derrick.

[@atthismoment3006]

😢I also feel no one is using the Right Words for What she did to Derick!! 😮 he is a survivor- abuse of the disabled and ederly is more common than people want to admit. She chose him becuase he could not talk. She already knew FC was Fake!!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Facts!

[@katarinatibai8396]

FC - fake communication

[@CharmednerdLocs-b1n]

I seen this awhile back n I'm so glad y'all covered this. The Court definitely didn't recognize ole gurl as sick...more like a deviant to me. I wonder if she woulda even tried it with a so called "All American Family" If that wassa BM n a disabled WW I doubt he would be free today

[@misstiff29]

Also we can advocate for differently abled to fulfill their sexual needs. However it should be with a PEER. The power and control here she had with her student was already unethical!!! This was hard to watch to see this unfold. You both did an amazing job dissecting the cultural aspet of this.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

True!

[@mschellylove3588]

She should be in jail. What she did was horrible.

[@gavinmccabe2908]

Great discussion. The documentary was extremely disturbing. It did allow the Ana character to speak a lot but I believe that actually revealed her as the villain. She was given the rope to hang herself. Just for context, Louis Theroux has been making documentaries for over twenty years now. This was just produced by him, not directed.

[@rebeccam7239]

Thank you for mentioning the name thing, every time she said Dman as one instead of D-man, it drove me insane. Red flag right there. Oh you are so intimate with this man but yet you couldn’t figure that out? Had it been him, He would’ve typed , you are saying it wrong on day one. Day 1.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Exactly!!!!

[@reaf2565]

This documentary is crazy, she took advantage. I remember working with a lady whose son was like this. She would let him look at adult vids, close the door and then come to clean him up. Sexual health is apart of healthcare.

[@burnteffigy87]

And she went a out it the right way! This Predator had a fetish for Black Men and saw Derrick as a means to an end for self gratification on a professional, societal and physical level. What she did is absolutely beyond foul and her mother is just as bad.

[@liv-bv3pl]

The thing that confused me is how he was able to write college essays w the other facilitator? Thats the one thing that makes me wonder what his true cognitive function is.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Anna was there guiding his hand.

[@joanna0988]

​@@AxiomAmnesia I thought the other facilitator Sharonda worked with him alone and in class?

[@WilliamsPinch]

@@AxiomAmnesia there was another facilitator, who hadn’t read the literature that she facilitated him to “write” about, according to her.

[@WilliamsPinch]

Well, that’s exactly why the original conviction was overturned. The evidence is a bit confusing when you consider the other facilitator having success with him.

[@SCK-vk1so]

Yes. This was my question. Also how would she know anything about calling him Dman? She had to ask his mom about what it means.

[@Thatcaramelchic]

Junk science: I did not like how the events were presented in the documentary either. As someone who worked in special education specifically with people who had communication disorders, I thought that the documentary was going to show how someone could be physically impaired but not cognitively impaired so in the beginning, I did find myself rooting for him going to school and getting access to education. I thought it was unethical that Anna was starting a relationship with him because obviously that’s her student and she’s married but the relationship of someone with the disability with someone who does not have a disability didn’t necessarily bother me, and I thought maybe it would be a situation where this was the first type of relationship like that to be public. Which it obviously was not. wish that they had not framed it that way from the beginning. It seems very cruel to frame a relationship as loving and consensual to then frame it as nonconsensual. especially as someone who is in favor of people with disabilities finding love and having access to relationships

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes to everything you just said!

[@shanjanee]

Junk Science. This story really tore me up for a few days after watching. Anna is a sick person but I’m glad that Derrick has the supportive family that he has to help him through what Anna did to him.

[@hunterhansen79]

I can't imagine the guilt they undoubtedly feel. Anna preyed on the hopes of that family.

[@niyahubbard5377]

Thank you so much for covering this!! None of the true crime channels have even covered it.

[@ecasey91]

She’s nuts, she really seemed to believe her own BS

[@oriamosley5746]

That woman need to be under the jail

[@frogfoot89]

When I watched the documentary, I felt like they were trying to displaying both "sides" of the situation, that Anna really does believe that they had a "consensual relationship." However, I took it as while that's what she believes, it shows that she has severe psychological problems who's still a predator as opposed to believing she's right. Even if someone were to believe her delusions, she was still employed as an educator working as a scholar to be his facilitator, creating a power dynamic between the two. If they "relationship" ended, she would've had the power to take away his ability to communicate (again, if you believe her). There's no way that this could've been consensual, and there's no way to spin it that she isn't a monster with a white savior complex. If it wasn't out of pure selfishness, she would've stopped being his communicator and seen if there could be proper tests done to demonstrate that he has the intellectual ability to give consent. She didn't do any of that. She selfishly and arrogantly took matters into her own hands (literally and figuratively) to make the horrendous choices she did. It also does bother me that if the situation were reversed- that if it were a man of color doing this to a non-verbal white woman that the media and legal outcomes would've 100% been different. They would've been locked up forever, as she should be. The legal technicality that the communication device should've been allowed as evidence for the defense is ridiculous, since as you've accurately noted this video, science has proven that this isn't an effective form of communication for those who are differently abled. While I'm not a lawyer at all (let alone in the state of NJ) so I'm not familiar with the technicalities of law and legal evidence, I can say as both a professor and someone whose had jobs working with adults who have special needs that every action she took is unethical, immoral, monstrous, and downright unforgivable.

[@frogfoot89]

Also, sorry this is so long. I feel very strongly about my hatred of what she did and I even left out details I wanted to include that demonstrates her white savior complex in her actions or even how the premise of what consent is isn't explored in the documentary enough (if at all).

[@jgirlinluv55]

This was so crazy and of course she got away with it

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes, she ultimately got away with it...

[@jgirlinluv55]

@@AxiomAmnesia I also believe female sexual abusers don't get the same treatment if it were a man abusing a female.

[@nikkilynn4000]

I think we probably all have a pretty good idea why..

[@naturalista74]

I think that she had a disability fetish. She made a comment that she was fascinated with disabled people as a child. Then there's the whyte savior aspect of the so-called relationship. This documentary made me angry. I'm a Mom of a son who's on the autism spectrum. He's on the higher end, but we have discussed inappropriate relationships and behavior with him. It's horrible that he and his family went through this.

[@shaebubblegum3212]

Maybe y’all will get into it but what’s your take on Derek studying with the other student and typing up all this information? I don’t believe Anna at all but I can’t ignore that

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Anna was always there though. She was always there guiding his hand. Anna was basically doing the talking and passing it off like it was Derrick.

[@nikkilynn4000]

​@@AxiomAmnesiaI think they mean when the college student was helping him to "write papers". She said something about how it seemed like something her roommate wrote? They made it seem like Anna wasn't there for that but I'm not sure. The doc wasn't really clear on whether or not the student was alone with him for that.

[@shaebubblegum3212]

@@nikkilynn4000 thank you this is exactly what I’m referring to . I found it odd that woman wasn’t asked to speak at the trial or maybe she was just not apart of the Doc. Maybe Anna manipulated that situation. I’m also thinking that the family would’ve noticed sooner the things Anna is saying he could do but when he practiced with her he wasn’t doing any of that

[@NostalgicVibesNetwork]

Thanks!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you! 😊

[@HeyyyitsLissy]

This documentary left me so mad and almost from jump w the way she said DMan. It being overturned is just sick. Y’all have some good questions here like how did he even learn to read, etc. The double blind tests proved it and this lady should be in prison.

[@Stalemarshmallow]

They did go into it…Anna said that Derrick learned all of it from observing and being around others.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

They needed to provide a more substantial answer.

[@frogfoot89]

Yeah, she did mention it, but no one ever went into depth on how it's possible that someone who never learned to read or spell could miraculously learn to communicate that fast. Seeing the letters for decades maybe can help with understanding a few words that someone might see on a regular basis quickly, but certainly not to that level that fast. In speaking for myself, I know if I was put into that situation to try and type/spell in a language I never formally learned I couldn't pick up on it that fast, and I don't have the special needs that he does.

[@Stalemarshmallow]

@@AxiomAmnesia I don’t think there is one…all we had was Anna’s guesswork

[@no1pinkjellybean]

There is no way Derrick was her first victim

[@vrjanice2]

She is only free because she pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and was released because of time served

[@thedivinegoddess2001]

She’s free!!!! What in the world!!!

[@cressapellom4205]

I haven’t watched the video yet (waiting until my food arrives 😂) but I just wanna say you guys always come right on time. Can’t wait to see what you guys have to say about this documentary.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Hope you enjoy

[@jennifern9968]

It’s so wild to hear Americans call Louis thereoux ‘some guy from the uk’ !! Hahaha over here’s he’s very well known!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Please pardon our ignorance over here! There's really no excuse except that it can be difficult to see beyond the bubble of the media we're inundated with over here. We actively try, and clearly we know know someone who is well known and popular elsewhere. Sorry!

[@jennifern9968]

You don’t need to apologise :)

[@AxiomAmnesia]

☺️

[@ericacrawford1978]

Junk Science. This documentary made me really upset and disgusted. I hope no one else lets her around their loved one.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This part.

[@MsTisme22]

This was so sad. She’s sick!

[@AnaLucia-wy2ii]

If you read the comments under the NYT articles, half of the people supported Anna. But now that this documentary is out, it’s obvious to almost everyone that she’s a psycho. She told on herself. That’s the brilliance of the documentary. By the end of it, it was like a horror story.

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

She should not be free. She’s dangerous

[@daisydelarocha3688]

Haa anyone ever read "Flowers for Algernon;" ?

[@HiDesert004]

I thought of that too. I read that book back in grade school. Flowers for Algernon is a short story about a mentally disabled man who takes an experimental drug that improves his intelligence tremendously but it turns out to be impermanent and he eventually reverts back to a childlike level of functioning. This was like a real life Algernon for the parents with this sick lady misleading the family that Derrick could do college level work but he was never above the mental age of a toddler.

[@hotaruishere2133]

I've done a fair bit of research on Stubblefield, and I believe that, to a shocking extent, she really did think that what they had was 'real' and 'special'. She was and is freakishly deluded. I honestly don't believe that anything race-related was in consideration for her. She just saw a guy she subconsciously believed she could "fix", and get the notoriety and attention she longed for-for so long-- particularly from her mother. If you look into her, I think she had a really toxic relationship with her mom. Her mom worked with special needs people, and was always focused on that. Anna never got the attention she needed from her mom, and thus as a child Anna got hyperfixated on special needs people. She even roleplayed with blindfolds and crutches to get a "feel" for what it would be like to be special needs. As if that would get her the attention she needed from her mom. But she couldn't be that or do that, so she did the next "best" thing-- tried to do something sensational with a special needs person. All that being said, NONE of it should in ANY WAY keep her from being responsible for the atrocities she committed. Because she still did what she did, and she did it for an extended amount of time. I think she should've gotten 40 years, a lifetime on the S.O. registry, and there be some sort of set-up where she can't be associated with anybody considered mentally impaired that isn't her own family. And then on top of that, if she does have any mentally impaired family, those visits be mediated or something. These two are so right, poor Mr. Derrik DIDN’T get justice. I deeply appreciate more than I can express that you two explained the sensationalistic journalism versus honest and true journalism. How dare netflix make a sensational "documentary" about this case. Mr. Derrick and his family deserve SO much better. I hope his family sues. This documentary should be taken down for how disrespectful and disregarding it is towards Mr. Derrick and his family. I pray that God blesses their family and keeps them under His Loving Protection.

[@Alien_Super_Star]

I’m watching this review because I couldn’t stand to watch the documentary. As soon as the nasty creep showed up and said she wasn’t guilty I clicked off. She is lucky his family is righteous in the lord cause me, I would have done something irreversible.

[@Nille0212]

She’s not mentally ill, but she’s definitely crazy af for doing this to that kind poor guy. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing. She used that man to satisfy her own needs and didn’t think about him at all in the process. She shouldn’t be allowed around anyone else with any type of vulnerability ever again.

[@calebriley6774]

Anna should be in jail

[@Key-32487]

Cheri 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂I’m dying every time you say “it just gets sticky to me” when yall are talking about him pleasuring himself 😂😂😂😂😂I know I’m childish!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

😂🤦🏿‍♀️

[@Lynn-nx6ue]

I really think the documentary should have gone more into the abuse and not make it seem like a story with two sides. Should have gone more into her psychology and the abuse. They didn’t need to make it salacious but should have mentioned for example that she had to remove his diaper to abuse him. Something is very wrong with her -she is not a sympathetic figure.

[@AnaLucia-wy2ii]

The abuse is obvious. By telling her “story,” she confirmed to the world that she is a delusional psycho.

[@ashleighhennessy]

Awful question but i csnt stop wondering... Do u think if he's got the mental age of a 6mth-12mth old, does that make her a pedophile as well as an abuser? 😳

[@galehutchinson260]

It's important to have documentaries like this one because people are unaware of how often the mentally vulnerable are preyed upon sexually. Unless the public knows it's an issue, they will not create laws to protect nor vote for laws to protect these people. 90% of Autist girls are sexually assaulted. People without parents and brothers to protect them are really abused. I get that it's uncomfortable but it's important to raise this awareness so we can combat evil. Pretending it's rare is not helping us at all. Junk Science.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

People do need to know that this type of thing is happening.

[@ritachip5759]

She's sick

[@staygoldponyboy5945]

The interesting part is that th comments "he" made were things she wanted.Sick!!! I was done when they said she took off his diaper - GROSS -

[@jeremypalmer7096]

Louis Theroux is a documentarian from the UK. He has some good documentaries, but he typically cannot be a presenter of information, he has a tendency of editing the films toward his opinions. Also, he is typically soft on people who deserve condemnation.

[@Alleycat938]

New sub here and loving this channel!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@Telva40]

Junk Science she needs to be under the jail

[@SD-lw6uc]

They showed the evidence on Netflix.????????

[@imbookedandverybusyhoney]

I was believing facilitated communication wasn't appropriate for Dman as the documentary suggests. The 1 thing the mother said made me believe Dmann could appropriately use facilitated communication was, once Ana was banned from seeing Dman he started masturbating excessively so she put him on medication 😳It was that comment that made me believe he probably did appropriately used facilitated communication. I also believe if Ana was black, this wouldn't be a case.

[@chynadoll8501]

Junk science. The filmmakers may have tried to be neutral, but it definitely leaned towards making her look innocent more than not.

[@hunterhansen79]

I think allowing by allowing us to hear from Anna herself, and the fact she thinks she did absolutely nothing wrong, we can see just how truly delusional she is.

[@makilahh]

Junk Science. Awesome review. I was not going to watch the documentary due to the content of the story.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes it was just a crazy story. Also, I wonder if Anna is getting paid from the documentary. It would be horrible if she is profiting from this.

[@impala15]

That handful line was absolutely hilarious

[@Indiegirl007]

1. She shouldn't have done what she had done, she was in a place of power. 2. When the mom was talking about how she had to put him on medication.....it kinda made me take a double look. Just because you are mentally handicapped does not mean that sexual desire completely misses you. How can she definitively say that his 'awkwakening' wasn't due to now being a 30-something year old male. It just....mmmm, I don't know. This whole story was weird to me. And I don't think that she used race as a play against them, like the brother was trying to insinuate.

[@AnaLucia-wy2ii]

I believe it’s case of excessive self pleasuring behavior and not understanding when and where it’s appropriate.

[@tls8046]

Junk science. Thanks for this discussion.

[@casonbrown6239]

JUNK SCIENCE would of never heard of this story but I found it very interesting to say the least and you guys hit all the necessary points

[@SCK-vk1so]

Working with people with Intellectual and Developmental disabilities, this was very interesting to me. Many of them are very intelligent but are not always able to voice what's in their mind. Communication devices has really helped in these areas. So I know this can happen. There were some things that I questioned. How did she know to say D-man if he didn't write it? Mom confirmed. 🤔 How was the book report completed when the other student helping him didn't know anything about the book? 🤔 They should've done another Psychological evaluation on him with the device. He may have had a higher IQ. His low IQ could be because of the communication issue. The family stated after she left, D-man was not using the device like she said he was. He could've been depressed, mad, etc. With all that being said, she should be in jail. In the position she was in, it is clear she broke boundaries. She was in a position to manipulate him to say or do what she wants. She clearly thinks she didn't do anything wrong. How she was acting and speaking on the documentary shows this. She has some severe mental things going on with her just doing the documentary shows that.

[@requiredparticular6831]

She seemed to need more attention from her mother as a kid, to constantly play as being disabled. Then I wonder if it became a fetish for her. I feel bad for her family. We all have to learn to walk before we can run, and read before we can write or type, but we are supposed to put our trust in experts. I would still trust an expert, but always ask questions and if feels off find another expert. She took advantage of their lack of outside support and a student’s trust of his professor. And now She’s hurt not just their trust of experts but that of anyone who has heard about this.

[@rebeccaomeara3379]

I don’t believe this Gentleman Consented. In my opinion this was abuse ❤️

[@ashley4372]

why does it mater what colour they are?

[@JillianVSJill]

Can you guys please get subtitles

[@AxiomAmnesia]

There are auto captions on the video. Is that what you mean?

[@c.j.richie2244]

Junk science. Very interesting video. You 2 are very easy to listen to...

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you!

[@Lyyysa]

In my field I work with a few kids that have cerebral palsy and from that I know each individual has their own limitations and capabilities. It really is case by case, but no matter how you spin this that woman was wrong and is a predator.She fetishized him and abused him. In my opinion, being an educated white lady played a part in her punishment because justice was not served for Derek and his family.

[@genevasgarden5430]

The documentary tried to make that YT woman look like some sort of victim