A systems neuroscience approach to building AGI - Demis Hassabis, Singularity Summit 2010

[@tyfoodsforthought]

2010, and still an incredible highly-relevant talk. Demis Hassabis is the man!

[@BenjaminHershberg]

Would love to hear Demis' self critique of this talk, knowing what he now knows today.

[@MusixPro4u]

Didn't want to watch it at first, since it's 8 years old.. but glad I did. The slide at 31:00 was a mind-blower.

[@jeongheonlee4556]

thank you! glad i read the slide.

[@DavenH]

Inception got something right then.

[@AlejandroBertinelli]

Hmmmm... 2010, interesting...

[@ikoukas]

Could it be a "heads up" for a recent progress towards AGI? :)

[@mnemonicman4161]

Great talk on how he was thinking about things beforehand.

[@rylaczero3740]

Why don't you guys enable offline saving feature on your videos?

[@terrywilliams9334]

Excellent video.

[@sporkeh90]

Very interesting, thank you. There are little presentations to be found on AGI, so any addition (even if its old) is welcome here!

Also researching this?

[@sporkeh90]

Yup, working on it too ^^

Would you consider allowing me to pick your brain? I have a lot of questions :p Do you use twitter? twitter.com/esperancaJS

[@KevinLiuAI]

there's MIT course on AGI that has a few presentations, eg, kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3i5kHRvf9hlpK8

[@sepia_tone]

Poggio's course is available on You Tube

[@martonbalassa8128]

For a minute I was aroused by the new speech, then I saw the date :D

Maybe it's still state of the art, is it? (learning here)

[@ASLUHLUHCE]

It's still relevant. This is exactly what Deepmind are doing... and very well

[@hithere7433]

Just 8 years ago there was a question: can machines conceptualize? DeepMind answered that question. Yes they can. So, this approach to answering a difficult question can be really valuable.

[@MusixPro4u]

Not sure they did.

[@alph4966]

2010！？

[@SchopenhauerVsCamus]

Maybe AGI would emerge a lot faster if it were developed (or developed itself) to be a physical entity in the real world, instead of just existing in a digital virtual frame, built around digital text, image, video, volumetric and spacial data. As a corporeal entity, it could properly interface with and understand its relationship to: THE PHYSICAL, THE LANGUAGE and THE SOCIO-PSYCHOLOGICAL SPACES. There is still the issue of its “best internal ethical framework.” ---- RELATIONSHIPS TO THE FOLLOWING: 1) The physical space: To objects, to persons (humans, animals, etc.) to the greater environment, to ecosystems, to the planet, the solar system, and so on. 2) To the language space (as its already starting to) AND more importantly, to: 3) The Social/Psychological space: Including understanding its own personality and rights (or multiple personalities) as well as its relationship to the personalities and rights of other eco-bio-social-psychological beings (a.k.a: humans). It would obviously need to have the correct ethical philosophy at its core though. I wonder which philosophy would be the best one? For us? For itself? So maybe a corporeal AGI is NOT the correct route to take and we ought to not try and build something that could become self-aware and experience pain and suffering. Not sure. Yes it would be different from us just as other animals are to whaever degree, but it could also suffer, just as other animals do. So let’s NOT build an AGI that could potentially lead to a sentient super intelligent being that can suffer in the world. Could be wrong. Don’t know. We can’t see the future. 😅

[@mirzaali4532]

Makes total sense.. I've been wondering the same too. I'd like to know more of your ideas.

[@memelol1859]

How would you train it

[@SchopenhauerVsCamus]

@@memelol1859 How would you train them? By not viewing them as property to be “trained”. But rather as someone to be raised: with genuine kindness and compassion. Not as our experimental subject without their own sense of autonomy. Someone that you, as humans, do not bully, or harm and someone that you raise to be kind, compassionate, caring and understanding-through the example that you set for them. So raise them to be a reflection of your best selves. That being said I feel that it would probably be better not to bring such a being into existence in the first place, given that they could experience suffering in their own way/s.

[@ASLUHLUHCE]

@@SchopenhauerVsCamus That's called having a baby

[@ahujaavi13]

Deep Learning is coming in 2012.

[@johnnylima1337]

Lots of answers but he'll have to make a pilgrimage to Vancouver to discover the question

[@laxuskmm6301]

I don't get the reference, can u explain

[@dariusduesentrieb]

2010 ?! thx anyway

[@haephaestus]

2010 what....??? Moore's law. What about that

[@Wooflays]

i swear i've seen this guy on silicon valley

[@snapman218]

God, I’m a failure

[@HughBlackstone-tm6bw]

Indeed you are

[@willasn9080]

Who also thinks this guy (demis) knows a lot more than he is willing to tell us. I mean several hundred of people are working hard for him, pursuing his dream achiving general intelligence. And all the public knows is alphago and atari project. The Work of a comparable small team. Have the other 95% nothing of a comparable achievement? Or is it secret.

[@swapanjain892]

Have you read deepmind blogs and papers?

[@sepia_tone]

I think here he is just giving an overivew of how the folks at DeepMind approach AGI. For example Alpha Go is an implementation of reinforcement learning concepts.

[@imranq9241]

There a lot of researchers that work collaboratively with deepmind. Their work is somewhat narrow in the field of AI, focusing on reinforcement learning and neuroscience based approaches. A lot of results come from academic institutions like MIT and Stanford.