A Threat to Public Land | The MeatEater Podcast

[@sampankratz8621]

Hey Steve, this seems like a great issue to phone an influencer friend (Joe Rogan) and put your money where your mouth is, help refine those republican ideals and make those micro-adjustments as you suggested. You’re an influential dude now, make it happen! Save our public lands!!!

[@Marco-th5mp]

The republican "ideals" are the force behind the lawsuit. They want the land to make money lmao

[@chandlercampbell14]

I believe he has called himself a Libertarian. He prefers a smaller government unless it has to do with conservation. I can respect that and I tend to side with him on that opinion. The two-party system and all the politicians these days could go to God's greeting party (likely they'd be meeting the other guy) and I wouldn't shed any tears.

[@seanhartnett9753]

Unfortunately if you listened to the the trump rogan episode, trump didn't care about the fish in California he just wanted to see green in the desert. Meanwhile you already have a politician Newsom who the agriculture is in his pocket has mismanaged the water so bad salmon is endangered.

[@Akimikinaak]

Rogan sides with power now. He hunts private ranches anyways why would he care .

[@sampankratz8621]

Yeah right on, I wasn’t commenting on his political affiliations but rather the in-coming Republican controlled government that could use some micro-adjusting and education on Americas greatest idea of public lands.

[@andrewkadar9325]

As a Land Surveyor in California and avid sportsmen, I understand this discussion and it is terrifying. Once the land is out of Federal hands, there is no controlling where it will end up. Good work on this team for bringing the topic to light. I hope my own kids will get to experience the same land I fell in love with one day.

[@jeffgore1603]

Any time you have a state spending $20 million for a push to change ownership of that land from BLM state. someone is planning to make a lot of money and it’s not in the public interest.

[@lukeu6672]

Our public lands system(s) is a national treasure.

[@t3h2mas]

Props to Brad for contributing to the conversation without shilling Argali gear. I’ll be giving them more consideration for future purchases

[@davidbeck6629]

It worries me that this is on a national level. The percentage of people who actually use BLM land is so tiny compared with the percentage of people don't even even know what BLM land is on a national scale. I could see Utah getting a lot of traction because of that.

[@donaldkenne3776]

They don't even truly need to go that far. They have a decent legal claim. It's not impossible that if you just go by the text of the constitution they are technically correct. It's frankly a failure on the part of those who want keep the land protected for not doing the hard work of doing so by the law. We have a government that legally speaking is a house of cards. That's why things that stood for decades like Roe v Wade and Chevron Deference are being over turned. As they were not legally sound and nothing more than courts and the administrative state stepping in where the Congress has shirked it's responsibilities. Frankly, people need to start demanding Congress do it's actual job instead of them regularly running away from their actual responsibilities because then they can avoid accountability.

[@tdec6009]

Just remember Utah has sold off over 60,000 acres since June 2023. It's not about them thinking they can do better, it's all about money.

[@riggin8097]

Yeah and NGOs like RMEF can only step in and save so much.

[@frankhorn8327]

Lots to unpack on this issue, and it has been going on for quite a while. I think Steve's point on turning Yellowstone commercial was exactly why Roosevelt designated it as a national park, to guard it from becoming just that. I can only speak from my knowledge of Idaho's selling and commercialization of state lands from Priest Lake, Lake Pend Orielle , Payette Lake, and more. While not a huge fan of BLM management and grazing practices, they mostly do what they can. 100% States will sell the jewels and leave the public with alkali cheatgrass and greasewood flats that no cow will graze to hike and hunt on. Death by a thousand cuts of land sales. Sportsmen and women need these federal lands for now and the future. I will always vote against Federal to State ownership.

[@sassischassis7187]

Thanks for shedding light on this public land in light of us federal government controlled or protected land. Lots of moving parts and I say kudos to Steve for bringing people to the table who actually have a legal background and actual experience with working projects on these lands. That is doing something. We are all *somebody who can contribute.

[@LumberjackLogic]

Steve, I run a sizable political channel on YT. You are right. I don’t agree with the party I tend to support all the time and people come at you when you don’t line up with their politician. It ca get really wild. What you are talking about is a valuable topic and I don’t think we need people restricted from accessing these lands. So much of our hunting heritage has already been lost. We don’t need to create more barriers of entry. It’s becoming a rich man’s game, sadly, and it should not be. I did reach out to Mike Lee after this episode, who I tend to agree with, just not on this one.

[@LumberjackLogic]

Also, have Don Jr on. He has his father’s ear and is a big hunter.

[@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf]

Cokey the Bear doesn’t give a shit about public lands.

[@laxwyo1]

Hunting media is bad for hunting. Access will be #1 issue as hunting celebrities recruit more people and then take the money they make from hunters and use it to lease land taking it out of public use.

[@HockeyTownHooligan5]

@@LumberjackLogicLMAO Don Jr doesn’t give a flying fuck about public lands. It’s just a cash cow to him, it’s the complete opposite of what Teddy Roosevelt fought against. Don Jr hunts on paid guided excursions on ranches or safaris in Africa. This sudden realization by conservatives that republicans want to sell your land and kick you off it is just so hilarious and sad to me. By the time you realize they bought all the public land you elk hunted on, it’ll be too late. While everyone is out here voting for religious freedom or against woke whatever these robber barons are stealing your hunting land from under your nose.

[@alexandercluster3003]

If the Population keeps growing (which it will.) we will lose more and more land and access. Public or private doesn’t matter.

[@glennmaynard7233]

Utah wants that land to sell. Utah holds a monthly sale of state owned land already. Also, you mentioned Yellowstone and other national parks and the states making money if they took possession of them. States do not have enough money to run and maintain something like Yellowstone. Another point is that states can restrict use of state lands. Wyoming prohibits non residents from their Wilderness areas is an example of state restrictions. Wildfires cost millions of federal dollars each year. How do you think states can afford that if they took possession of federal land? They can't.

[@matthewholmes8638]

A hiker or camper can go walk all around Wyoming wilderness areas, but I cant walk around and hunt.

[@chiliheadajfc]

Keep public lands public, end of story!! A shared resource for Everyone to enjoy. Don't fuck this up America, it's one of the best things about us!

[@gtarick1225]

No Takesies Backsies... You vote who you vote for. Hoping they don't undo the very thing you built your livelihood and brand on... Seems like a risky bet.

[@dwigtschrude]

Nobody read the fine print on their ballot this year so to speak

[@HockeyTownHooligan5]

“But the face eating leopard wouldn’t eat MY face!”

[@MDizzle020881]

@@HockeyTownHooligan5total leopards ate my fave scenario. Mind numbing

[@kstogie]

Don't worry, Steve. They will come for all the rest of the Federal land if they are successful here. They are starting "small" before they go after the National Forests and National Parks. And this is driven by those who will personally profit from exploiting these land and will certainly not be a benefit to the public.

[@flux_core_fx]

Thanks for talking about this stuff

[@andrewfranks1099]

Steve's take is coherent, rational and spot on. Cal is babbling like he's 4 ipas in on BHA pint night.

[@snozua21]

Definitely thought Steve was saying Brooklyn has a school cleaning business. But no it's actually skull 😮

[@Fortune-kp7rh]

I thought the same thing initially!

[@craighawthorne329]

My wife and I got in to a serious argument because she said flavor town . I said the question said elected to the municipality. Guy was elected no where!!!! Meat eater trivia is officially running my marriage!!!! 😂

[@Eric-dr5bj]

Running or ruining?

[@munchingtiger4330]

the hype on history hunting show is HUGE!

[@heavy6355]

That law suit if it’s rules for the state would be the end of public lands

[@dcollay17]

Wouldve been smart to have some political discussion before the election. Its gonna be a wild ride.

[@kstogie]

A majority of the listeners likely vote to the right and they are afraid to upset them. It will be to the detriment of all of us, especially those who love our wild places and wild creatures. Teddy Roosevelt is rolling in his grave.

[@canam111979]

That's Wild! You guys talking about mounts falling off the walls...and day before yesterday my Buck got bumped, fell off the wall and gave me a nice gash on my forehead. Absolutely bizarre timing!

[@Matt-to3jo]

Developers are behind this

[@stevenboyd6560]

Every time Steve has that cup I can’t focus on the episode because I’m trying to read the cup.

[@LeviAllen-s2d]

Nobody cares that you ski Bridger bowl?

[@romanm5583]

Steve call up Don jr and tell him to step up for hunters and public access because he definitely has influence on his father

[@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf]

Cokey the Bear doesn’t care about public land. He can use his money and influence to hunt private land all he wants.

[@Eric-dr5bj]

He has no influence over his father. Absolutely none

[@campionwindisch5747]

Jr is a total phony. He was always just playing a hunter to get votes for daddy. These cake eaters don’t give a damn about us or public land.

[@romanm5583]

@ Trust me brother if Baron got him to go on all these podcasts and he listened than the oldest son definitely has some say also would be cool if steve had Don Jr on his podcast to talk about these issues

[@HockeyTownHooligan5]

@@romanm5583Don Jr doesn’t give a fuck about public lands. He can pay to shoot the biggest elk on the planet on a giant ranch that used to be public land. Enjoy your crumbs peasant boy! It’s what you voted for after all. Hope it was worth it.

[@explorethishumanlife]

The political engine of the State of Utah is controlled by the LDS Church. In the U.S., there is no state closer to a theocracy, than Utah. This effort would not be moving forward, without their explicit endorsement. Utah Legislators meet weekly with LDS Church lobbyists and political directors to ensure alignment. The LDS Church is the largest private landowner in the State of Utah and is often in the top three private landowner in every state in the U.S. through its commercial entities AgReservces Inc, Property Reserve Inc, and other real estate investment companies. The LDS Church currently has an estimated net worth of $265 billion dollars and is estimated to reach $1 trillion dollars by 2044 (Source: Salt Lake Tribune). And for those who know their history, the relationship between Mormons and the Federal Government has been, to put it mildly, strained, since the 1800s. In my opinion, this entire effort by the State of Utah to annex Federal lands feels like a coup by the LDS Church to simply acquire more property for their commercial interests, in Utah, and across the United States.

[@brianwebster9450]

Steve you are absolutely right about Texas public land. There is not much at all and it sucks. And on top of that the best of it you can’t even actually hunt except for draw only

[@slowhands8869]

The issue, as a former utah employee, is that Utah Div of State Lands sells land held in trust, sometime to corporations or those with an indirect interest to family or friends at Utah agencies. Why sell when you can lease? If there is a sale of federal land, then it ought to go to individual citizens limited to 5 acre lots, with a land patent, at the exclusion of any an all corporations. Utah is interested in BLM land because most of Utah public lands are BLM. The implication is huge because if the federal government is barred from owning land, then US Dept of Interior as the largest revenue generating agency in the federal government would become insolvent, and hence, with the transfer of BLM lands all the mineral rights thereunder to individual states. One note from this episode, the atty references Article 10 and he means the 10th Amendment, which also states the power not reserved to the states is retained by the people. So by extension if the federal govt is barred from owning land into perpetuity (rule against perpetuity), the states are barred as well thus opening the door for individual citizens to be first in line. Where are the individuals interpleading this original action before SCOTUS? Of note, if fed can't own then can it buy, i.e. Seward's Folly?

[@gregwhit4032]

Good for that girl. Her parents should be proud. She’s a go getter.

[@simonsmith9363]

The only thing I've found that will stop puppies chewing wood is washing up liquid applied liberally. I have used this on trees that were in danger of being ring barked, skirting boards and table legs, it is the only thing I've found that works! However, I've no idea how it would look if applied to skull mounts.

[@jonEmontana]

Sanctuary - that's exactly how I view my time on public lands. My home - exactly how I vieŵ and treat it.

[@clamsoup]

Rinella should read a very inexpensive book called Alaska The Saga Of A Bold Land. The fight for the State of Alaska to acquire land from the US territory was a real wrestling match that sounded a lot like this conversation.

[@rschnarr5114]

The end music, who is that and what song?

[@jonEmontana]

Just the thought of what the developers up in BS and the YC would do to rape the land even more than they have is terrifying.

[@kokumi-rambler]

As someone who lives abroad, BLM land access is something very unique where you can be truly free. One issue I see is that Americans don't feel they directly benefit from the logging, mining contracts that the Fed and companies enter into. More transparency there would be very beneficial.

[@tonymusetti3524]

There is an amendment that says that the federal government can only do what is specifically detailed in the constitution. What is detailed in the constitution is that it can only own land on a very limited basis, far beyond what it currently owns. The fact is that we have landed where we are with regard to federal government ownership of land in violation of the constitution. It's just a convenience that hunters have benefited from this oversight. What the Founders would have us do, rather than stump for the current status of overreach for own own immediate benefit, is allow the Constitution to have it's due authority, and either mobilize on the states to purchase and offer protection on these lands, or amend the conditution to allow for expanded federal ownership. Ignoring the constitution here is a slippery slope that leads to erosion of its authority and the intentionally laborious legislative process intended to prevent shortsightedness in government.

[@warlussy]

There's a perfectly good solution for maintaining Federal oversight of Federal lands, and it lies with the legislature. Expecting the courts or the Executive to enact your preferred policy in perpetuity is a losing proposition. Congress, do your job.

[@dwigtschrude]

The constitution is a living document and was always intended to be so. Hunters more than anyone know the US is one of the most beautiful countries on earth and damn near the saddest thing I can imagine would be to lose the land and wildlife that make this country so great

[@tonywarnock2281]

As a conservative I’m a big believer in appropriate resource extraction and growth, HOWEVER, as a conservative I also believing in conservation and conserving the resources and protecting the environment in wise stewardship principles. This is a tough issue, but this is one of the few times we have to utilize a federal system even though it has built in inefficiencies and at times, gross incompetence.

[@tonywarnock2281]

Oh, and in full disclosure we also graze on federal permits. I’ve seen federal grazing management skewed in response to ridiculous lawsuits filed by groups like Western Watershed who are incredibly duplicitous in their claims

[@tristanhenry1112]

Bear in mind, corporate cash reserves are at all-time highs. Us companies alone currently sit on 5.8 TRILLION dollars, and they're frothing at the opportunity before them. All the social issues that inform american politics are a distraction from their foundational goal of collecting as much wealth, land, and power as possible. There are no free lunches and it has to come out of our pockets in order to land in theirs. Let's be clear that this is FUNDAMENTALLY UNAMERICAN. Taking this one step further - the counterfactual is Average Americans proudly supporting public investment in the retention and improvement of our #PublicLand. Stated plainly, that means paying your taxes, holding your elected officials accountable, and probably putting limits on money in our politics because we'll be in this losing fight until we do.

[@kwood0789]

The lawyer here boiled the definition down to bases and DC but that’s the entire lawsuit. Definitions. States boil it down to something else.

[@garrettblake2653]

The issue no one talks about is about almost all federally owned ground is is the western states over 50 percent of Utah’s is federally owned 70 percent of Nevada and similar in Arizona. All of these places people cannot build or buy home’s or build water infrastructure all things that are needed and must be fixed asap Utah for over 20 years Southern Utah has been fighting to build water reservoirs and highways that state has done land transfer to try and make things work. The federal government makes promise and then backs out. The people that want to keep things as they are live in other states where it’s affordable and screw over people that actually live in these states.

[@KeithRogers-d6z]

Dang, I charge $125-$150 for deer/pronghorn/javelina. $225-$250 for elk. She needs to up her prices!

[@scottschaeffer8920]

Look folks, you’d better wake-up to this issue. Land in public ownership, should include the public’s input on its future. Open space must stay in open space for all of us to use. The incoming administration will take a Real-Estate Developer’s approach-No Good!!

[@noahb8089]

Keep wild places wild yall 🫡

[@dougwalton4487]

The mega rich would love this. The whole country will look like Texas. Fences everywhere and only their rich buddies get to enjoy it. They already closed off most streams and rivers

[@garyraynor7456]

We say it is public land, but it is not, it is government land. In my humble opinion the government should not hold a deed on any land. Think about it, the government is ,"we the people", but the government can tell "we the people" that we cannot use our "public" land whenever "it" feels like it. In reality "we the people" do not even own our own land, stop paying your taxes and you will find the government takes your land from you. This is a tough issue but there are ways to actually move the land back into the hands of the people where groups, coops or clubs can own it allowing others to use it. We cannot call it public land when the State, Local or Federal government holds the deed on it.

[@lockhackle2645]

The top half of N Ga is federal land that’s known as the Chattahoochee NTL forest and it covers Ga , Tn and NC . It’s a wacky system of patches of land with state land or a WMA and it’s odd to hunt or fish because state and federal laws can conflict..but you may wonder on and off of land and be in some violation….

[@justinnutt2423]

At some point, we are all just going to start ignoring land grabs by the ultra class.

[@waynegay9086]

I do all of the above. I have hiked into probably more places than alot of people. And if you close access to the area then you close the area. No one is hiking 30 plus miles.

[@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf]

@@waynegay9086 that’s not true. Lots of people hike much further. Just because there isn’t a gondola down to the bottom of the Grand Canyon doesn’t mean no one goes there.

[@UtahPropertyWorks]

There are two issues that weren’t brought up. 1st is the definition of the word Disposal. It does not mean get rid of, it can also mean “the arrangement or positioning of something,” which was a more popular use of the term in the time when our constitution was written. Secondly, this land was never Utah’s land. Utah, since Guadalupe Hidalgo, was Federal Land from the beginning.

[@ezraboden]

Interesting conversation, definitely lots of food for thought here. Anyone by chance know the artist/song at the end of the podcast?

[@timt-mer1984]

Question: if the ruling result deems that the Feds can't own land, what makes it state property? Why do they get it? If the Feds can't own it, why wouldn't they sell it? I don't get why it automatically goes to State.

[@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf]

@@timt-mer1984 it doesn’t. It goes to the highest bidder, which would probably be China.

[@BeanDip2288]

You know who yall need to have on, Meat Eater podcast should bring on Survivorman Les Stroud.

[@rdevaughn22]

If his name is guy Fietti, he should put some T's in his last name.

[@TVaughn80]

Would this apply to reservations

[@robertsutton3001]

No

[@dzuverink]

I can't take any comments serious from Randal with him wearing that shirt on from TTDS!!!

[@heavy6355]

That question about Guy was not right I would have left.

[@arttrumbo9496]

Nah, that was a great question. The word "elected" didn't make anyone miss that question. You either knew the answer or you didn't!

[@theflyingdutchmanlofts4527]

Over and out means "i will wait for a response but i will not reply"

[@hendu7111]

Brad looks like he could be Travis Pastrana's brother.

[@arttrumbo9496]

I just wanted to say that I thought the Guy Fieri question was great. It was probably one of my favorite meateater trivia questions ever, and definitely my favorite pop-culture question. I couldnt stand hearing everyone rag on Spencer for that question and here is why; when I hear the name "Guy Fieri" my brain automatically follows with his title, "The Mayor of Flavor Town". There is no separating Guy Fieri from Flavortown. The fact is that everyone complaining just didn't know the answer. If they knew the answer, there would be no other option. The word "elected" had no effect on whether they knew the answer or not. There are plenty of questions on meateater trivia that are no different but nobody complains when they know the answer. Also, when I say Ted Cruz's name I dont put on a hispanic accent and roll my tongue to say "Cruz", therefore, I'm not going to roll my tongue abd say "Fiedi". Over and out!

[@shawnrasmussen9994]

What do you think of I think it was part of the 30 for 30 project where they wanted to take peoples land by eminent domain and turn it into public land

[@dougwalton4831]

Dr Randle sporting OSU shirt Hell yeah !!!!!

[@TVaughn80]

They say public access but that could be very broad. Public access with a fee to enter

[@TaylorGaskins-ls5em]

YESSS CAL

[@jonEmontana]

You need to get Rogan raising awareness on this subject regularly

[@HockeyTownHooligan5]

He’s a trump guy now, he doesn’t give a shit.

[@jonEmontana]

@ he does have the money to buy his own hunting ground or just pay to hunt private.

[@tonytheking6737]

Remember its your representatives that want to to this. VOTE THEM OUT. Theyre selling my land to big business

[@robertsutton3001]

If they win I want 1st dibs on land with mineral rights etc. the state and feds can’t reserve mineral rights

[@danstroud9810]

I wish that I could have somehow participated in this. Perhaps I look at BLM lands differently than some but you have to look at the habitat that is provided for the wildlife that belongs to the people of the state

[@TheTrident1982]

When was the last time the Fed gov't ran something efficiently and effectively?

[@waynegay9086]

I am from the south east part of Utah. And the access of public land is not what you're making it out to be. What ever left wing person runs the office in your area wants to close access to they close. And the government is closing down access and making non hunting land at a crazy rate.

[@chasefrits5547]

The BLM is basically wanting to act like a private landowner with their resource management plan...is it really still public land if the public is banished from it or is it yet another case of the federal government placing itself above the people?

[@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf]

Public lands are not just for hunting. It’s all shared use. OHV, hiking, open range, wood cutting are all acceptable uses for public land. Specific uses are at the discretion of the managing agency, like you can’t drive your Razor through Anasazi sites in recapture canyon. Access to hunting is mostly being reduced to people who aren’t willing to hike in, but the spaces themselves aren’t being closed to hunting, aside from a few specific cases.

[@lukehoose2516]

Also a Utah resident and no area is being shut down and no access for the public is being removed. There are restrictions for motorized vehicles because they negatively affect wildlife and trails meant for other users. OHVers also tend to have a hard time staying on the path, destroying areas meant to be conserved. The only hunters affected are road hunters. I agree that certain areas need restrictions because conservation is the priority.

[@alexbauman4464]

Amen

[@dwigtschrude]

@@lukehoose2516insane that someone would argue otherwise. Use the quads god gave you

[@carterwgtx]

I was talking with my father after the election…and he said something that’s applicable across the political spectrum - he said “back in my day, we used to say Americans don’t know where their food comes from. Based on the recent election it’s pretty clear that most Americans don’t actually know where anything comes from”.

[@osar2870]

Why does the election show that? Is your dad a white dude for Harris ?😂

[@6by6by6]

You got beat to the punch on DB cooper by Dan Gryder of the Probable Cause KZbin channel.. He interviewed family and friends of DB and put an end to the so called mystery ..

[@dwigtschrude]

Electing a real estate developer to the Oval Office was never going to be good for public land. I’d rather jump through more hoops or even flat out lose my handgun than the irreplaceable lands and wildlife that make this country so great

[@stratop3686]

His sons are avid hunters and sportsman. Hopefully they will understand the importance of this issue and influence their father.

[@jesselattin174]

Steve is incorrect on the "over&out". When the operator says over&out, they mean the conversation is over and I'm out.

[@ShawnDones]

Is Utah actually trying to take public land OR are they trying to just give the control of the public land to the state?

[@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf]

They’re trying to take control of it so that they can sell it or sell mineral rights to private buyers.

[@Eric-dr5bj]

They are trying to move it to the state which they will be forced to sell as they could never afford to maintain. It would be a transfer from the federal government to investors with the state getting some revenue.

[@arttrumbo9496]

The BLM land transferred to the state would be sold to real estate developers and other private entities. There would be no more public access to millions of acres of land.

[@TasmanianSensei]

What’s the Kanji say that is hanging in the wall?

[@brucewyse3357]

I think it’s supposed to say Meat Eater

[@donaldkenne3776]

Listen, I understand the concerns for sure. They still have a case IMO. This is just fallout from the US doing half assed governance rather than elected officials doing their actual jobs. Frankly, if you want to head them off, if it is available, go to ballot measure in every state there is to say that if any federal land is ever turned over to the state it must all be maintained for public use or some other amount you feel is reasonable and likely to pass. That, or you can start blowing up legislators on the federal level to do their actual jobs and pass laws specifically addressing Utah. You keep leaving it in this limbo state because it's convenient for you to do so. Utah is not going to stop and frankly, I cannot really blame them. If you're one of these states where huge swaths of your state is tied up in untaxable federal land I cannot for a second blame you for not wanting to keep it that way. If you were honest you would be saying some of those States where huge swaths are federally owned should have their land sold by the Feds and then use that money to buy land in states with almost NO federally protected land. It's like saying I want this state to be hamstrung in ways other states are not just because they came after the fact. Beyond that, if you're a private landowner (especially so in one of these states) you definitely do NOT want this land being sold. As it would drive down the cost per acre of land in your state for sure and potentially across the country. This also suggests to me that if Utah won they would NOT immediately sell off all of the land as it would tank property values in the state. Regardless of all of that, I don't think the federal government should be holding large tracts of land for no real reason other than I like being able to use it. I'm 100% in the camp of I don't think Florida or California should have any say of what goes on in my State. Keeping it federal makes that the case whether you like it or not. It will always be a double edged sword and as much as I hate the idea of losing opportunity and nature I do recognize that it is not always that simple and that it is to an extent incumbent upon us to do better as hunters and conservationists to buy, protect and preserve. Not just by maintaining the status quo but by doing the harder work of preventing those who seek to undermine it for private and public respectively. As far as Cal's economic claim of oh, they only made this measly few billion selling their millions of acres whereas they make more just from recreation annually. I think he isn't being logically consistent in the sense that the sold land also generates income for the state through development, property taxes, etc. every year as well. It's not just the one time sale. This all from a Michigander in one of the worst public opportunity counties of the state and who only hunts the public land.

[@tdec6009]

There are flaws in this. I do understand where you are coming from, yet Utah has already sold off 60000 acres since June 23. That number is growing. Second, currently federal lands are paid for by all tax dollars in the U.S. when it becomes state, now they don't have money to fund that management. So cost of grazing goes up, (it's already around $20 for the state compared to $1.35 for the federal lands) along with state residents footing the bill for wildfires. Also all the federal lands do generate profits to the state with mining, oil and gas, grazing, recreation and so much more already, without the state committing funds into it.

[@heblaska]

What about all the federal land that belongs to the Native American.

[@chandlercampbell14]

Unincorporated land was just unclaimed land (more or less what the attorney said) but also included lands deemed uninhabitable or unable to be used for profit. No one wanted them so the state was stuck with them and the Fed came in and essentially said, "ours now." Then proceeded to do nothing with it themselves. With technological advances in off-grid power, irrigation etc. They feel the land could be useful to their population now. Those state/local politicians have a duty to their constituents so it all makes sense why this would be coming back up now. Those lands were just seen as unusable if unclaimed (not owned privately) and the Fed felt they could just come in and claim it, using an eminent domain clause, to call it theirs. State(s) just want to have the land and control of said land back, which falls within their jurisdiction/borders. I am a public land hunter myself but I can understand where the state and their residents are coming from.

[@Hizzy76]

Thank god I live in Canada where 90% of the land in my province is public/open to hunt on

[@osar2870]

Lmao you live in a communist shit hole I wouldn’t be bragging about that bud 😂

[@robertsutton3001]

😂 but your a subject in EVERY other way

[@rustyshackleford8149]

Plus your entire country's population is a bit higher than just my state.... imagine if people flocked to your country to desire citizenship (legally, or not) at the scale that we have. There would be less room for public land

[@Hizzy76]

@@robertsutton3001 so true… The only good part of living in Canada is the access to wild land.

[@Hizzy76]

@@rustyshackleford8149 I couldn’t imagine. Trump talking about making Canada the 51st state had me thinking about how many more people would hunt public 😂

[@jasonbsssett6169]

I built a house on the gulf in Destin for big sky Montana something group

[@TexasSmoking]

This is a huge problem and the worst part about it is steve will just pretend to care. Why would he care about land in utah when he can hunt private land anywhere anytime. I really wish he would use his status and get attention on this subject through people like rogan, carlson, don jr, nugent etc. Do something about it steve

[@HowToGuns]

You need to call in Joe Rogan to appear on your show. Post the episode in both of your guys feeds. Your primary & podcast channels, and Joe's feed. This is too important for anyone to sit out.

[@russhillis]

antelope are a pita, why so cheap?

[@Ryhunts]

Good chunk of Lithium in SE Oregon...it's all on BLM land...I can see more states doing this that have revenue issues.

[@anactivemarketcrash742]

Dude Utah is evil for this.

[@pcd5]

Steve has a major blind spot with Cal. Dude has no personality and is not good at talking plain and simple into a microphone. Love the show but unfortunately can’t listen when Cal is on.

[@teelamorissette5615]

I'm conflicted on the BLM issue. I love our national parks. I'm am grateful for them and that I have had the privilege to see a few of them. But of late, since they instituted the reservation system around 2020, I have really soured on them. I really dislike that they are taking away our access to the parks. I really hate that I can't just drive up to the top of Cadillac Mountain to see the view for 5 min when I first get in to acadia NP. Or be able to have someone in my party drop me off at a trailhead on going to the sun road in Glacier NP without now having a reservation to drive the road. Especially there, since it is the only road that goes through the parks. It really make me go if you're going to take away our access to the park for which we already pay taxes for, and a park pass to have access to, then get rid of it all. And that makes me sad. Trust me, I hear them about the over crowding, but don't you think that's how people have always felt throughout history when more people go somewhere than previously? I understand it's more so now with social media. If you don't like the crowds, then don't go or work around them. It's just nonsense. They are using people emotion to take them away little by little. My theory is that Pretty soon only "special" people will have access to the parks. They will start making less and less slots available. And then eventually close it for certain people and have private access to park for their own enjoyment without anyone else there. I am really bitter about the reservation system.

[@VIi726]

Only the west entrance to Glacier needs reservation. You don't need reservations after 4 i believe or in september

[@EvanHendrickson-hq1vf]

Reservations are more about protecting the resource. It is an over crowding issue, but more so because larger crowds mean more depredation to the resource. It’s already been shown that unchecked access to General Sherman in Sequoia will result in the the tree’s death because the soil around the tree becomes so compacted that water runs off instead of penetrating the ground to reach the roots. For this same reason the location of Hyperion, the tallest tree in the world, has been kept secret since it’s discovery.

[@tdec6009]

I totally understand your thoughts. Yet, if it's the state. Good chance they will sell it off or what they don't sell they will have to increase the price while the amount of public land shrinks causing even more crowding.

[@evanbisson4048]

Cal is such a jaded liberal he is blind. While I do support federal land management he absolutely lies about things like camping on Wyoming state lands. The best parks outside of yellowstone are state. Ever been to Seminoe or Curt Gowdy Cal?

[@outdoorlife9410]

keep raising your prices for First Lite apparel and your going to put yourself out of business.

[@Freedompatrol]

Ceptum

[@jessebrown6262]

What happens when the federal government, under the influence of transnational interests, decides to limit access to “public lands” in favor of environmental causes?

[@Delmiester]

Brad and Steve need to get some facial hair, odd nowadays to see two dudes in the outdoor-space such clean shaven.

[@brownspaceman]

sure I like Guy Fieri, but I didnt vote for him. #notmymayor

[@arttrumbo9496]

Then you don't live in Flavortown, because there is only one mayor here.

[@singsaesee2053]

R mn

[@benhisted]

Randall is a buckeye? Ugh

[@davemeehan9239]

Just curious why you agree with the state managing the wild life but not the land. I don’t have the confidence that either one does a very good job.

[@mattpolinsky4234]

Doing some external research it seems that it’s only because it’s unappropriated or non designated. Why don’t they just make a new designation for say a hunting land? You guys should have don jr. on. Not saying he’s the be all end all but he is a hunter and outdoorsman and does have the ear of his father. It would be a great way to make issues of public lands heard to the top. I’m all for shrinking the government but there’s a lot better ways to do it.

[@andrewwhittaker2908]

1st 😅😅😅

[@matthewmandregan1467]

It IS unconstitutional for the government to hold land in perpetuity BUT we need to protect the land in question.

[@andrewandrew569]

I gotta say, lot of dumb bs regarding Spencer, and some mumbling child taxidermist, you clickbaited me.