Great new video. Thank you. (But I was a bit alarmed to hear that passengers have been waiting at the station since 1827. Thank God for motorways.)
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Haha yeah you just can't get the service these days
@andrewwoodgate37699 ай бұрын
Fortunately the 1907 was on time.
@infidelcastro51299 ай бұрын
Fear not - they put on a replacement chariot service 😂
@Michael_Brock9 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for walking zombies and skeletons to turn up to catch their late train from 2 centuries ago! LOL
@uingaeoc39059 ай бұрын
Broad Green's intended use for the Merseyrail and the Mainline was as an interchange for the South and North Liverpool Loops proposal and the motorway was elevated here to allow for the various tracks and platforms.
@sglenny0019 ай бұрын
Wish that the outer loop gets built
@mikeclarke38829 ай бұрын
Hi Ollie, as you know, history is written by those who write it, not necessarily those who make it. Thanks for making sense out of a complicated issue. I travelled the line many times as a kid so it's nice to see what it looks like these days. Thanks for this!
@cubicinches189 ай бұрын
That's right Our history has been massaged into shaped by the gentry. If it had been written by the workng classes the school corriculum would be different and a multitude of British historical TV doccos wouldn't have been made telling the story as they do
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Amazing, glad you enjoyed it. It's such a hazy topic to look into
@AlanWNoble9 ай бұрын
Back in the 1970’s, I would travel from Broadgreen to Wigan every day to attend Wigan and District Mining & Technical College. One day they were ripping out the old green gas lights at the station and had a pile at the end of the platform. I asked the Station Master if I could have one. Unfortunately none of them had the glass bowls but I’ve still got the lamp somewhere in the loft. I never knew I have such a piece history. Thanks for an interesting video!
@RCake9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for an excellent video. Shows very well how early railways were really quite improvised and experimental - they easily could have failed and be forgotten by now. It is only their later broad success that makes things so memorable in retrospect.
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@jetsons1019 ай бұрын
What a way to make a good day better. First: A new video from Bee Here Now, and Second: The new video was about Vintage Steam. Thanks to Ollie for his time, hard work and posting. mike....
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Aw, thanks Mike! Glad to be of service!
@jetsons1019 ай бұрын
Hey, I just tell it like it is.......@@BeeHereNowuk
@SuperMorgan19809 ай бұрын
My local line. Broad Green does look like a bomb site at the moment. I’m sure the new station won’t be sympathetic to the past. Excellent video again though
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Yeah I dont think it will either, but they could modernise it and still throw in a nod to 1830.
@jth3859 ай бұрын
Just a small correction, Heighington Station is still an active and used station on the Bishop Auckland branch from Darlington, the building might not be in use but the station is...
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. I think a slight oversight with what I edited out of the video, mixed with a wish for evidence of Heighington taking passengers. I'm happy to be corrected though
@majorlaff86826 ай бұрын
The railway bridge over the River Skerne in Darlo is the world's oldest railway bridge in continuous use. The river under the bridge may be the world's most continuously polluted.
@simonfunwithtrains15729 ай бұрын
Clearly a lot of work went into this video and it's really appreciated. Thank you very much S&J
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Yes more than i thought 😂
@Steve.M9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I grew up in Wylam, Northumberland, notable, not least, for being the birthplace of George Stephenson. I recalled that the station there, on the Tyne Valley line (formerly the Newcastle & Carlisle Railway), had some claim to being the oldest something. Looking it up now, I see that the station buildings date from 1835. I suppose it may need to be qualified with “one of the oldest”, “still in passenger use”, and/or “still substantially in its original condition”. The signal box, on a gantry over the lines, is also interesting and is one of only two of the type that remain.
@davidioanhedges9 ай бұрын
A station that is still in full time mainline use would have to look like this ... rebuilt many times, updated, redesigned ... and still changing .... it's the most historically accurate oldest station
@swanvictor8879 ай бұрын
Thanks for including my home town of Oystermouth, it always gets overlooked lol. Sadly for me, I was born in 1964 - four years after the Mumbles Railway was finally murdered by the local bus company: it closed in January 1960, with nearly 150 years of service. Ironically, the remaining Trams - built by English Electric and the largest ever built, were removed to Leeds to be scrapped.
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
It's such a shame, I'd have loved to have seen that in operation.
@EllieMaes-Grandad9 ай бұрын
The oldest (and still surviving) Railway Institute is open in Shildon. Worth a look inside if you're in the area.
@1258-Eckhart9 ай бұрын
Danke! Excellent picture research! My family at that time lived at Burtonwood on this line.
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Amazing, thank you so much! That's very kind of you 😊
@puddinggeek46239 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always. Very entertaining and informative. Keep up the great work.
@paulie-Gualtieri.3 ай бұрын
Excellent video, which puts me in mind of the original Derby Midland train station. It was a big and beautifully designed building with a grand frontage, which was sadly replaced with the absolute monstrosity Derby has today. It's very sad it wasn't saved or much information was ever made about it.
@LancashireLass9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. You always cheer me up.
@DaedalusYoung9 ай бұрын
I live close to this line, and I've been to a fair few of these stations. I always think about the history whenever I'm on the train.
@RWHTrains9 ай бұрын
Interesting video but what happened to my hometown station, Earlestown with what I understand is the oldest station building still in railway use (although its only the platform canopy in actual use)
@BeingTheHunt9 ай бұрын
Thank you! By the end of the video I was left wondering what station has the oldest still in use building. A quick Google tells me that there is supposed to be some renovation work done to put the full building back in use, rather than just the canopy.
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Ah yeah you caught me out. I was saving that for a separate video haha.
@RWHTrains9 ай бұрын
@@BeingTheHunt yes part of a big regeneration project in the whole town centre. Station building to be put back into some form of use. I remember the 150 celebrations it was used like a heritage centre for months. I think there is similar planned for 2030.
@RWHTrains9 ай бұрын
@@BeeHereNowuk looking forward to that one Ollie if you get around to it. Newton Station also worth a look although the original building taken out of railway use a couple of years ago. Up for commercial let last I saw
@DavidMKempMusicandTrains9 ай бұрын
A very informative video on early Railway history. Magic stuff!
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@Gregdotgreg9 ай бұрын
Mitcham station in south London is supposed to be the oldest, having been on the Surrey Iron Railway. Although that wasn't a passenger railway
@simonh63719 ай бұрын
Not only was it not a passenger railway, it didn't have locomotives. Wagons were horse-drawn.
@Andrewjg_899 ай бұрын
Nice to hear about the surviving railway station. Such a great shame that many of railway stations and railway lines were closed in the Beeching Era that he closed so many railway lines and stations.
@Mounhas7 ай бұрын
And all those jobs with the knock-on effect.
@robertcarter69639 ай бұрын
Great Video as usual- thanks for the preparation etc
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@keithwalmsley18309 ай бұрын
Great job, really fascinating They're trying to raise money to renovate Heighington station in Newton Aycliffe (which is an eyesore at the moment) in time for the bicentenary of the Stockton to Darlington Railway next year, hope they can!
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope so too!
@philquine9 ай бұрын
Another great video 👍 Great bit of sleuthing. Roby station was my home station where I grew up. Unfortunately it lost a lot of its charm due to the electrification. The siding at Broad Green used to house the W H Smith depot. In the early 1980s the two parcels vans would be picked up (around 11am) and taken to Edge Hill to become part of the Red Bank (Manchester) parcels train which would normally fly through around 14:15, shortly after the 14:05 Liverpool-York express, usually behind the same locomotive that had collected them earlier in the day. If you were lucky this would be one of the huge English Electric Class 40 diesels known affectionately as a Whistler due to her distinctive sound. Halcyon Days. 😊
@pauleyd804 ай бұрын
I’m sorry to be difficult here. But, Earlestown?
@EllieMaes-Grandad9 ай бұрын
Interesting old paintings, showing r/h running on the railway.
@steviegTVreturns9 ай бұрын
Great video as ever Ollie. I live quite close to what was called Bury Lane station, now Glazebrook and didn’t know there was a station there. I’m still baffled now there’s no stations in that line between Newton Le Willows and Patricroft/Eccles, I always thought there would be a good place to have a station. At least I know now there used to be one. Amazing how much history there is associated with the Liverpool to Manchester line, even if a load of it isn’t there or been redeveloped rather brutally.
@alanfarnworth28029 ай бұрын
really interesting and well researched
@strangequark19269 ай бұрын
I grew up in Broadgreen but never realised the history of my local station. Just outside the station to the North there are several roads with big Victorian middle class houses. I guess these belonged to the first commuters - people with the vision to realise they no longer needed to live in the city. Prior to the railways people had to live walking distance, or maybe horse riding distance, from their workplace. How amazing it must have been in the 1830s to live in a country village 7 miles outside the city and travel quickly everyday into the office.
@JahsRulz9 ай бұрын
great vid! agree with with occlusion.
@PhilipMurphy8Extra9 ай бұрын
Great video, Thank you
@bobjackson65249 ай бұрын
Fascinating. Lots to take in here.
@northernengland9 ай бұрын
Was the pub in Shildon not classed as a station?
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
An excellent question. I think you probably could call it a station, but I don't know what Heighington has over it.
@wrichard119 ай бұрын
There's an old S&DR booking office in Stockton on Tees. Station or not. Hard to say
@EllieMaes-Grandad9 ай бұрын
It's still there too.
@jollyrogererVF842 ай бұрын
Why did you gloss over Newton and Earlestown?
@katrinabryce9 ай бұрын
Were railway timetables back in the day like bus timetables now? They don't list every single stop on the route, just the timing points. And some bus routes have hail & ride sections where you get on and off anywhere.
@Guitar6ty9 ай бұрын
In 1830 Edge hill railway station along with Earlstown station are probably the oldest stations on the LIverpool to Manchester are still in use plus Edgehill has the longest platform.
@DisleyDavid9 ай бұрын
Edge Hill Station is not on the same site, so I don't think that counts. Liverpool Road, the original station on the Manchester Liverpool line, still exists but no longer has a timetabled service. 😢
@eddherring49729 ай бұрын
Edge Hill doesn’t have platforms of any significant length. However Edge Hill does have the oldest station buildings still in use. Also railway carriages and wagons used to be lowered into Park Lane station (pre Lime Street) by rope (and hauled up using static steam engines) due to locomotives being prohibited from using the 2km long tunnel. This tunnel was a cut and cover design which eventually had the majority of its covers removed leaving a set up of cuttings and tunnels similar to the approach to Lime Street today.
@lynnmorton75443 ай бұрын
Wylam station in Northumberland - on the Newcastle & Carlisle Railway - has been in continuous use since 1835 and still has its original booking office, waiting shelter and station master's house, though unfortunately, the booking office closed c.1969 when Pay Trains were introduced. Beat that, L&MR!
@stevecampbell75896 күн бұрын
Heighington Station is still in use today. The building aint but the station still is
@Quasihamster9 ай бұрын
In Germany, the definition of a station requires there to be at least one switch, which in turn requires a decision to be made for each train where to go. A stopping point with no switches would be considered a halt, trains can either stop or not stop, and only turn back if it's at the end of the line. I know we're talking Britain here, but the distinction seems like a sensible one.
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I like that distinction.
@binquisitive8 ай бұрын
Id have thought Earlestown was the oldest still in use? Is there a reason it wasn't in the video?
@BeeHereNowuk8 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely, it's one of the handful. I left it out so I could do a separate video on it but neglected to mention that in the edit 🙄
@binquisitive8 ай бұрын
@@BeeHereNowuk good to hear can’t wait! Brilliant vids by the way… 👍👍👍
@duxberry19589 ай бұрын
you missed Earlestown goes back years
@RickDeckard65319 ай бұрын
Any tips for the World's Oldest Still-In-Use Railway Station With A Café?
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Sounds like my kind of day out 😁
@RaspberryWhy9 ай бұрын
Here, here to the gloriously absurd :)
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Yes love it!!
@jimmcculloch37867 ай бұрын
Fascinating!!
@pauld8499 ай бұрын
I'm really sorry but Heighington is still very much in use as a station, the pub has closed but the station is very much still in use on the Bishop Auckland branch. Also, it's pronounced kinda like High-n-ton (from a local) cracking video though.
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
Ah yes I might have been overzealous with my editing and there's still a bit of a question over the evidence that Heighington had passengers earlier than 1830. That I've seen. But I'm eager to explore this more.
@BeeHereNowuk9 ай бұрын
That annoying too because a local told me it was pronounced Hey-ing-ton. 😄
@prc7899 ай бұрын
Before this video I knew that the Stockton and Darlington Railway was the first railway, and The Liverpool and Manchester was the first passenger railway (purpose built, pulled by steam engines) but I'd always thought that the Rainhill Trials, Stephenson's Rocket and the accident with Huskisson were on the Stockton and Darlington.. Now I know better, and feel silly for not knowing it before...
@stevecampbell75896 күн бұрын
Broad Green hasnt been continuously operational though
@paulbennett7729 ай бұрын
I'm not getting into any "oldest" dispute here (although I'm from Darlington!) Just to say that it's pronounced High-ington, not Hey-ington. Visit Darlington in 2025!
@markeussi9 ай бұрын
My local station!
@raymondleggs55089 ай бұрын
I don't wanna ride in those overcrowded double-decker horse drawn coaches.
@1258-Eckhart9 ай бұрын
No one's "gonna" make yer.
@brianferguson78403 ай бұрын
Hang on !!!! The oldest railway station is actually at Stockton on Tees. Not the one still in use, which incidentally untill it was demolished in the 80s had the biggest single span mansard roof in the country, No, I am talking about the one on Bridge Rd. This was the first railway station and ticket office for the passenger stretch of the Stockton/Darlington railway. During the early 90s the council planed to demolish it but it was rescued by a men's homeless charity as a hostel. I dont know what it is used for now, but that's definitely the oldest railway station in the UK/World.
@wmr90199 ай бұрын
I always thought Edge hill station in Liverpool was the oldest that was stephenson's rocket was launched from ?
@stephensmith44807 ай бұрын
Same here.
@Chocolate8me7 ай бұрын
Broad Green is older than Edge Hill for a passenger station according to Wikipedia 👍
@Brookes796 ай бұрын
Liverpool to Manchester Liverpool is the world's oldest
@m3hnl9 ай бұрын
there was a man called Richard Trevithick who built a steam vehicle and drove it up Cambourne hill in 1802
@EllieMaes-Grandad9 ай бұрын
. . . . then went for a drink and let it blow up.
@m3hnl9 ай бұрын
@@EllieMaes-Grandad scrumpy cider of course
@m3hnl9 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with Jethro of course
@EllieMaes-Grandad9 ай бұрын
No doubt ! @@m3hnl
@faithlesshound56219 ай бұрын
@@EllieMaes-Grandad I didn't know that he had left the boiler unattended with the fire burning. Trevithick is usually denied the record because his engine blew up/burned down, making it a "failed attempt." I suppose there's always a first time for every mistake that can be made.
@johnfinley4859 ай бұрын
Shildon just up the road will have the biggest railway museum in the world soon and in time for the 200th
@RPaton9 ай бұрын
Kilmarnock and Troon railway?
@southcalder8 ай бұрын
The K&Ts original Kilmarnock and Troon stations no longer survive. The current stations are replacements, and on different sites. Also, until 1939, the K&T was a plateway, so it depends whether that could be considered a railway.
@riversidbuses7 ай бұрын
Greenwich railway station opened in 1840 and is unchanged!