3:57 anyone else so classically conditioned by Jago's videos that they got whiplash when the words "American gentlemen" are not immediately accompanied by that one picture of our dear beloved Charles Tyson Yerkes?
@CplBurdenR10 ай бұрын
I did notice that. Perhaps the reincarnation of Yerkes?
@raverdeath10010 ай бұрын
@@CplBurdenRwith a name like Gooch Ware Travelstead, how could he not be?
@amitbasu815910 ай бұрын
I was mildly surprised that Jago overlooked the opportunity to splice in a picture of Yerkes at that point.
@CplBurdenR10 ай бұрын
@@raverdeath100(Sir) Charles Ware-Tyson Gooch Travelstead-Yerkes
@robincamps565810 ай бұрын
Long lost Great Grandson. :-0
@morzee9410 ай бұрын
The station was also designed to support a medium sized office tower on top of the entrance, but it was never built. Helps explain why the structure looks so substantial.
@highpath477610 ай бұрын
They could have made it taller and fitted ox-blood tiles to it
@u1zha10 ай бұрын
Aha, thx! That would absolutely make sense
@sglenny00110 ай бұрын
Oh my
@iankemp113110 ай бұрын
Maybe one day, given that London offices are still being built and transport links are of course good and sustainable.
@walker105410 ай бұрын
Apparently that was chaged to be around 80 homes instead which clearly isn't enough for the size or be worth it financially going by how much construction costs these days. Would need to get like 200 homes on top of it which isn't new for the area since like a minute behind the station there's 2,000 homes being built on a site with 30 story high towers. Would only need like 16 floors aboce the station for 200 homes, but I suppose the supports were probably only designed to have like 4-8 floors and would be too expensive to change. A shame if so. Annoying that they just didn't do it in the first place since it would've been so cheap to do at the time while building the station.
@Play_fare10 ай бұрын
The build out of Canary Wharf is quite astonishing. I remember taking a tour of the site in 1989. It was just a massive wasteland and construction zone but a few structures were either completed and waiting for occupation or were in the midst of assembly. I won’t forget the visit for a very silly reason; I made the mistake of changing the lens on my Canon SLR out in the open air. With all of the sand around, you can guess what happened when an inopportune stray breeze came up. From then on, every time I advanced the film, there was gritty grinding noise. Needless to say, I learned my lesson!
@metrotechguru586310 ай бұрын
OUCH!!!
@kiamso10 ай бұрын
It seems to have been forgotten that the initial pressure to build Bermondsey (and Southwark) Jubilee line stations came from the then local MP Simon Hughes, whose aims came to fruition, meaning that the line didn’t run direct from London Bridge to Canada Water without stopping.
@PokhrajRoy.10 ай бұрын
“Why, they’d laugh at you, that’s what they’d do.” - Me to myself asking whether I should tell friends I like nerding about the Underground.
@Play_fare10 ай бұрын
You’ve now found your village - welcome!
@alanclarke464610 ай бұрын
Friends will always take the p*ss out of each other about SOMETHING, if with you It's the Underground, that's ok, I'm sure you can do the same to them about whatever their "thing" is 😂😂
@SheeplessNW610 ай бұрын
When anyone laughs at you, just remind yourself that at least your name isn't Gooch Ware Travelstead.
@timhubbard889510 ай бұрын
I use the station quite often. To be honest, Jago you are right about the unstable ground. The station is beginning to suffer from water ingress problems like so many other tube stations south of the river. It's a very dingy station and the raw concrete walls are not really helping much with the dingy look. They have got dirty from the fine black tube dust which is very sooty looking, giving the station an unkempt industrial, unloved look, which is a real shame.
@petitkruger217510 ай бұрын
I dont know if the design being so crude and simple has either helped hide the tube dust and general dirt or made it harder to clean.
@caleballen472110 ай бұрын
Coincidentally, I got an alert for unusually high ground water in the area!
@timhubbard889510 ай бұрын
@@caleballen4721As Jago points out water ingress is a much more serious problem on the Southbank of the Thames. One of the reasons why there isn't many underground lines in South London. You only have to travel on the Northern and Bakerloo Lines on their southern sections to see increased evidence of water ingress in the stations. It's interesting, the more you learn about London; the more you begin to understand the "Where's and Why's" things are the way they are!
@AFCManUk10 ай бұрын
Hang on..."Bermondsey has no interchange..." you say? Expect it to appear soon on Geoff Marshall's "Only Unconnect" series of videos,,lol.
@dodgydruid10 ай бұрын
Sometimes your vids represent major parts of my life lol Being a man and boy Millwall lad and also working at an uncle's scrappy in Bermondsey brings that home as well as wandering the defunct Bricklayer's Arms line as it wandered under South Bermondsey station also good memories. My family were the Greenwich Watsons, my youngest born in the now long gone Greenwich hospital one of the last to be born there before closure and the last Watson in our family to be born in Greenwich, my great grandfather was a very well liked policeman from Greenwich West nick who fought crime in every cafe and pub along his "beat" which started at the station and he ensured every pub along his huge beat hadn't been stolen before wobbling in to his house in Point Hill for a solid lunch before wandering up to Blackheath, Royal Standard down to Shooter's Hill, along to Woolwich then back up the banks of the Thames through Charlton to sign off and by this time wobbling like a sailor in a storm to be told off by me great grandma for being by this time 9 sheets to the wind. He must have been pretty good as he had a zero arrest record and zero crime on his "patch" and NO pubs were ever stolen on his watch...
@JWHarris........10 ай бұрын
Great story
@historyinfo-bites10 ай бұрын
I love a good thumbnail cover picture that's pertinent and to the point. Well done, Mr Hazzard, for always doing this and not putting up a picture of yourself pulling a stupid face, shrugging your shoulders or pointing at absolutely nothing (which other KZbinrs seem to do).
@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial10 ай бұрын
Shocking, an American man who isn’t me.
@CoolTransport10 ай бұрын
😂
@Londontransitduck10 ай бұрын
Mr yeerkys what is your favourite underground train
@kcnmsepognln10 ай бұрын
Roll over Beethoven, the Big Dog's in town.
@CoolTransport10 ай бұрын
@@kcnmsepognln nahh 🤣
@trainchugger5310 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the cable car guerilla of Chicago...
@melodymonger10 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thanks 🙏. As a side note it's amazing how a picture of a damp grey London streetscape with a tube station can elicit a deep sense of love in a now Aussie who grew up near London in the 70s and 80s 😍
@esmeephillips588810 ай бұрын
If Maurice Micklewhite had stayed in his own manor, this would have been his station. Not many people know that.
@ZGryphon10 ай бұрын
The most surprising thing to me about Bermondsey is that it's actually pronounced "Bermondsey". It's the kind of English place name that looks like the locals would take great pleasure in shaking their heads and declaring that any fool should be able to see it's pronounced "Bezzy" or something. (Looking at you, Featherstonehaugh. :)
@euanemerson94410 ай бұрын
Wymondham isn't innocent in this either
@2760ade10 ай бұрын
Fanshaw!!😂You'd never guess would you! Norfolk is one of the worst places for this kind of nonsense I find - Costessey, Wymondham, Happisburgh etc.
@alanclarke464610 ай бұрын
And "Marjoribanks" is pronounced "Marshbanks" 😂😂
@lefthandedspanner10 ай бұрын
@@euanemerson944 the one in Norfolk, anyway - the one in Leicestershire (where Stilton cheese came from) is pronounced the way you'd expect from the spelling other examples of this kind of inconsistency include Blackley, Greater Manchester and Blackley, West Yorkshire ("blake-lee" and "black-lee"), and most egregious of all, Adwick on Dearne and Adwick-le-Street ("ad-ick" and "ad-wick"), both in South Yorkshire and less than 10 miles apart
@tabriff383210 ай бұрын
I can’t let an absolute classic go unmentioned… I refuse to pronounce Cholmondeley “Chum-lee”. I’ll concede Cholmonley, but not a syllable less.
@telhudson86310 ай бұрын
An explanation! At first glance the station seems like a variant of the brutalist school. But when you combine the waterproof concrete box with a desire to let in some daylight, the design makes sense.
@TheEulerID10 ай бұрын
It reminds me a little of Westminster, which was surely a much bigger job, but also is a huge cross-braced concrete box with a hint of Blade Runner about it.
@johnbriggs391610 ай бұрын
@@TheEulerID I think you will find that the actual inspiration was Piranesi.
@tonycook60310 ай бұрын
For years going back to the late 60's we would visit my Aunt Rose who lived in Wilson Grove, Bermondsey. It always annoyed me that there was no station near, the closest was Rotherhithe about 30 minutes walk away. So it was always the 188 bus to Jamaica Road. Aunt Rose moved out of Wilson Grove in the late 90's and what happens? They build a tube station at the end of her road!!!
@tomlockwoodbartlett7 ай бұрын
it's about a 10 minute walk - not 30.
@adrianrutterford76210 ай бұрын
The changes in The Underground since my student days are amazing. Thanks for another interesting insight.
@neilthehermit465510 ай бұрын
Thanks Jago, I now have to go find my copy of "The Long Good Friday" ! - Shakes fist at the sky in comical manner !
@RogersRamblings10 ай бұрын
In an era before the Fleet Line was a glint in a tunnelling engineer's eye, indeed the Victoria Line was still a mewling babe in arms, I worked in a now defunct department store adjacent to High Street Kensington station. For those who know, it was the one with the famous roof garden. My boss asked if I fancied a trip to the seaside to collect some urgently needed items. "But of course", I replied - being young and keen and willing to do as my lords and masters desired (I soon learnt). Imagine my disappointment when it was revealed I would be travelling to the sunny delights of Bermondsey. 😢🤣
@raheem20123110 ай бұрын
This my local tube. Slight odd ball to be fair. I would say South East needs more tube lines. Bermondsey to Old Kent Road/Camberwell is a long journey because of less access and limiting roads. Old Kent Road gets heavily congested regularly with traffic trying to stay out of CC which bounds South East. Roads linking the Bridges Tower Bridge and London Bridge have caused this. A few years back they banned cars and other vehicles besides buses from crossing the bridges on weekends. They have spent at least 10 years building a cycle lane from Tower Bridge down to Deptford, which causes congestion regularly.
@highpath477610 ай бұрын
If they extend a tube to Peckham would it be the Lovely Jubbly Line ?
@simontay485110 ай бұрын
No, it would be the peckham spring line.
@sianwarwick63310 ай бұрын
@@highpath4776it would if Danny Baker called it that
@geekandguide10 ай бұрын
A station I pass through often but to which I'd never given much thought. Some useful background material here about the docklands railway development.
@PaddyWV10 ай бұрын
My Great Grandparents made their way to Bermondsey from Derbyshire in the late 1800's, when it was at it's most stinky, with the tanneries and rendering plants. There was a court case at the Old Bailey at one point investigating the unhealthy conditions there. My relatives high tailed it to Croydon soon enough.
@gthmm10 ай бұрын
Jubilee line is the best.😍 Best sounding trains too🥰
@HowardKlein195810 ай бұрын
I'm so pleased you called it Surrey Docks. I grew up in Rotherhithe (Brunel Road) during the 1960's and have never adjusted to calling it Surrey Quays. At least the Wetherspoons still carries the old name 🍻
@kevinfitzpatrick44410 ай бұрын
"Instead, the money set aside was put into road in the area" Oh what a painfully familiar story with HS2...
@kiwitrainguy8 ай бұрын
Yes, rather than putting money in to the solution, they put it in to the problem.
@adamhenley829510 ай бұрын
I went to St James primary school in Bermondsey - and then moved across London with 1 year left. So for a year in the mid 80s I travelled across London from Earl’s Court to Bermondsey every day alone as a 10 year old. I had to catch a tube to Tower Hill then a bus and it took over an hour. This station would have made it so much easier back then as I could have done the journey in about half the time 🤷♀️
@JWHarris........10 ай бұрын
My school too. 87 till 94, something like that
@F_YTB9 ай бұрын
Me too!! 2000-2007 used to live on neckinger estate so it was once an easy walk down towards Jamaica Road just to get to school and then my family moved to Greenwich and then my sister three years older than myself and I would brave the journey from Bermondsey to Greenwich after school 😂. Bless her heart she would always have to nudge me to wake up because she would say “I can’t protect us all by my myself if something was to happen” 😢 and I’d feel so annoyed but wake up nonetheless to keep an eye lool but nothing ever happened and we always got home quick. And its much better than taking the 188 then 386 just to get deeper into Greenwich especially at rush hour.
@Elitist2010 ай бұрын
How I first heard of Bermondsey: 'You can't get a light and bitter in Miami though You can get one in Bermondsey though! That's a nice sound as well, Bermondsey You can get a light and bitter, and it sounds nice Light and bitter, that sounds nice, I'd like a light and bitter Oh cheers thanks a lot Oh nice one yeah Alright, what you having? What you having eh? Pina Colada? Lovely, here you must be sophisticated'
@tantaf12310 ай бұрын
a video dedicated to Bermondsey! very nice
@ljosephdumas311310 ай бұрын
The ships moved so their was nothing left to 'anchor' the factories. Underappreciated pun!
@Jasper_444410 ай бұрын
Thanks! I missed that one.
@alanclarke464610 ай бұрын
@@Jasper_4444me too
@MrAsBBB10 ай бұрын
I can’t resit my fix of Jago even when on holiday sitting around a pool in Gran Canaria. Well call me a geek. Great video and reaserch
@alistairbell393510 ай бұрын
I lived in Bermondsey while the line was being built. There was a worksite right across the street and according to the plans I saw, one of the running tunnels was built directly under my bedroom! And yes, it was a pain to have to walk (or take the 47 bus) a mile to London Bridge to get to our nearest station… but sadly I’d left by the time Bermondsey station opened!
@myonlydemandisbacktowork875910 ай бұрын
47 is still a pain - at 5 something pm it tends to be so full I simply cannot get on the bus at monument! Thankfully I have moved on
@Hammondfreak10 ай бұрын
It's bloody raining again !!! It does not have to be sunny all the time to make a damn good video - thanks Jago.
@neilmcfarlane564410 ай бұрын
Used to be my local station. Always thought it was humdrum up top but unsung down below. So thanks for the nostalgia and the education. N
@paulmiller59110 ай бұрын
Can't think of what could possibly go wrong with a glass seat. Yes, indeed, classic Jago! Great video.
@birdbrain44452 ай бұрын
Yeah, thinking about it... basically every station on the Jubilee's extension serves a fairly notable area and is an interchange; rather like the Victoria line in that sense. And then there's Bermondsey. I have actually used the station before and I rather like it; it's interesting seeing the very brutalist/industrial/modernist style of the extension applied to a relatively ordinary, small station. I'm glad it's there, that's for sure! Also, yeah, I really appreciate that they pushed the boat out with these stations. It's weird to say given how old so much of the Underground feels, but you can scarcely believe the stations on the extension are 25 years old. I think they'll be amongst the most gracefully aged of any stations on the network, including Bermondsey. Great video!
@cefnonn10 ай бұрын
Beautifully researched and told.
@sianwarwick63310 ай бұрын
I worked at Canary Wharf when it was practically empty. It was a joy to take the DLR into Central London.
@ronaldhughes18109 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I worked on this project and found it fascinating, also challenging. The main problem we encountered was an anomaly that affected our levelling instruments, this happened on the spot near the cross adit on the east bound platform, when in this area all instruments would go haywire. The first occurrence was actually during the initial tunnelling. The boring machine had a gyroscopic system that would direct the machine to within 2 millimetres discrepancy. On this occasion midway down the east platform the machine changed course and veered almost a meter to the left with no apparent reason. It was discovered, but the machine had to be brought back to a point or correction. If you stand on a point on the east bound platform and look towards the end of the tunnel on the left you will see a shape resembling a crescent moon, this is the direction the machine was going prior to be put on track. Those famous glass seats? they consisted of a run of about twenty in the form of a long bench, pretty neat; I still have the photographs.
@Adhrit_Gupta10 ай бұрын
When I came to London in 2000 I first went on the Jubilee line extension from London Bridge to Stratford
@camotech131410 ай бұрын
This channel is a great source for my London history 😊
@ewanmack_110210 ай бұрын
i visted London in 2022 and the closest station was Bermondsey (about 20 minute walk from where i was) i remember going into the shop and I bought an Oasis
@johncourtneidge10 ай бұрын
Very nice, thank-you. The Angerstein Wharf railway complex nearby would make for another worthwhile project. Ps the poverty of Bermondsey, as described by Fenner Brockway in his book, 'The Bermondsy Story' (with neither, then, cab rank or bookshop) haa been replaced, now, by a much-more affluent air.
@ttrjw10 ай бұрын
In the end, because of clawbacks due to the JLE late opening, Canary Wharf only paid 3% of the cost. You'd never know it from the Tory hype at the time.
@GryphLane10 ай бұрын
Nothing really changes with the Tories
@hairyairey10 ай бұрын
How much was that then? Obviously millions.
@hairyairey10 ай бұрын
@@GryphLaneOr Labour for that matter. Their PPP contracts that seemed a good idea saddled the taxpayer with debt. I think a lot of the spin is to satisfy a critical press that will always complain about taxpayer expenditure.
@Play_fare10 ай бұрын
The Reichmann’s through their O&Y development arm got in over their heads with too many massive projects around the globe. They got hit with the double whammy of short term loans to banks and a drop in the need for commercial real estate because of a global recession. They had to retrench by essentially abandoning Canary Wharf and filing for bankruptcy, but still managed to retain the original family business, Olympia & York Tile.
@amitbasu815910 ай бұрын
On the other hand the companies and employees based in Canary Wharf contribute the highest proportion of the UK's tax revenue of any area of the country. The City of London would have been unable to absorb the people and office space of those who work there. The government and TfL have made a massive, ongoing, profit out of the Jubillee Line Extension, and would have done so had they footed the entire bill.
@MrPete1x10 ай бұрын
Thanks again for your time and research
@davidsands78910 ай бұрын
Accuracy point: there's hasn't been any tram service south east of the river since the late 1940s. Outer London for example Wimbledon and Croydon have had some trams for a few years now.
@pbsa197910 ай бұрын
my home away from home for the last two decades. hilarious coincidence you and auditing Britain ended up on my doorstep almost at the same time.
@michaelmiller64110 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, Jago, as usual! Thanks!
@Lego698010 ай бұрын
Thanks Jagiebaby for another smashing video.
@CookeeQapla10 ай бұрын
Jago I love your videos. On this one however there is a missing part to the story. When the final proposals for the line went to parliament, neither Southwark or Bermondsey were part of the plan. The then MP, Simon Hughes, filibustered in parliament to ensure the debate fell and that Bermondsey and Southwark tube stations would be added to the plan. If he hadn't, there would be no Bermondsey tube. Separately it's interesting that the Salter house was considered the location. That would have been a bit more central to Bermondsey. In the end this site wasn't the site of that house (which is on the corner of Reverdy Road and Southwark Park Road)
@CharlieBrown-c5x10 ай бұрын
I was waiting for Jago to tell us if the station usage matched the original expectations, but he kept that bit secret. I could try and research it myself, or just hate him instead. Hmm, a tricky decision!
@cv990a410 ай бұрын
Yes, he definitely left us hanging. Come on Jago, numbers don't bite!
@Spearca10 ай бұрын
I think the many shots of near-empty platforms and escalators are a clue.
@bigaspidistra10 ай бұрын
A bit below 7 million on the latest available figures but was over 9 in 2019. The lowest use on the extension except for West Ham (which is complicated by the number of different modes there).
@iankemp113110 ай бұрын
Basically considerably better than might have been forecast, about a quarter of Canary Wharf rather than 10%. So it has definitely justified its existence.
@maryapatterson10 ай бұрын
Thats a relief!
@JoshK-z1k10 ай бұрын
Nice one Jago - this was a really great story
@caleballen472110 ай бұрын
Thank you for the well researched background of Bermondsey! I've been living here for about a year and a half and have loved it. I've been very surprised how little I see it mentioned, especially considering its vicinity to the City
@PlanetoftheDeaf10 ай бұрын
Bermondsey is I guess the JLE equivalent of Pimlico on the Victoria Line, the relatively quiet station with no interchange that serves an area, but wasn't essential. I don't know how important it was, but it can't have harmed the development of The Bermondsey Beer Mile nearby, making it easier for customers to get there AND putting the name "Bermondsey" on the tube map, which is great in raising awareness of a district.
@samappleby602 ай бұрын
0:28 and Wembley.
@nigelcole193610 ай бұрын
Gooch Ware Travelstead any relation to our friend / fiend Charles Tyson Yerkes 🤣 ? Love the glass freeze, nice idea those glass seats too, I bet LT saw through those quite early on, no wonder they were replaced.
@Lewislloy10 ай бұрын
I live in Bermondsey - love our station it’s very unique and we are lucky to have it & the frequency of tubes
@countluke233410 ай бұрын
The short-sightedness of politicians is frustrating me more and more the older I get. How often have we seen the "lets not do it, it's too expensive" argument, only for that exact same thing being done 10 years later for double the costs? Infrastructure isn't getting cheaper.
@michaelmorgan555910 ай бұрын
Jubilee line stations future proof? Has anyone changed at Canada Water - north bound Overground to Jubilee line? Total nightmare.
@richardwatts209510 ай бұрын
My local station, 5 minutes walk from home. I find it very convenient to use, it's much quicker and easier to get between platform and street than most other Underground stations, especially London Bridge.
@philipseeschina2569 ай бұрын
Our home station when were were in London. Loved the introduction 😊
@NickyMitchell8510 ай бұрын
Bring on the *JAGO HAZZARD* LINE, o Mayor of London. _dedicated to the memory of SIR. JAGO HAZZARD._
@michellebell509210 ай бұрын
Looks a lovely modern station . I’ll be visiting soon on my travels.
@DeathInTheSnow10 ай бұрын
What an interesting noise that train made as it started moving at 5:22! I wish I knew why Jubilee Line trains made that noise. If only there was a well-written, humorous, yet concise video that covered it. Nothing too long, maybe a little over six minutes in length? Preferably written by a very handsome Harry Beck impersonator? :D
@DrPowerElectronics9 ай бұрын
Or just watch mine!
@Komrav10 ай бұрын
My fave station
@Jimyjames7310 ай бұрын
Very good - Thanks for sharing Jago 🙂🚂🚂🚂
@The_Plastic_Ape10 ай бұрын
I love the sound the Jubilee Line train makes. Reminds me of my youff.
@AFCManUk10 ай бұрын
'Gooch Ware Travelstead' always cracks me up! 🤣
@AFCManUk10 ай бұрын
That's it. Next time I go to London, I'm going to ask for a Gooch Ware Travelcard 😆
@lawrencegt222910 ай бұрын
It had always struck me that on the Jubilee line some of the new stations (Westminster & Bermondsey) had avoided having pedestrian walkways and escalators in claustrophobic tunnels and had instead opted for a scene from an Escher drawing, with large open concrete caverns criss-crossed with escalators and aerial pathways. Was Bermondsey the first to adopt this new architectural style?
@princessdaisy610 ай бұрын
I love the jubilee line. It is just amazing.
@LegendaryHopOnBaby10 ай бұрын
How apt - just yesterday I went past Bermondsey station (above ground) for the first time.
@teecefamilykent10 ай бұрын
Brilliant video sir!
@johnmurray842810 ай бұрын
2:35 poor old Thamesmead lost out again!
@highpath477610 ай бұрын
quite why they could not have had a 2nd leg built I dont know.
@rynabuns10 ай бұрын
@@highpath4776I believe it was meant to split at North Greenwich (hence its 3 platforms), but since Canning Town-Stratford gets so much traffic it would be detrimental to halve/lessen the train frequency should a branch be built
@batman5110 ай бұрын
I remember being involved in testing of escalators and escape routes before it opened. It was better than sitting in the office anyway!
@mikecawood10 ай бұрын
Great London weather !
@PipInTheMiddle10 ай бұрын
Don’t ever change or sell out. This kind of journalism is rare these days
@jme91710 ай бұрын
Bermondsey born and raised and I just love anything to do with Bermondsey. I enjoyed this video.
@CplBurdenR10 ай бұрын
I've now found myself now saying "Bermondsey Tube Station Station Station"
@xoxb210 ай бұрын
I bought a flat in Bermondsey in 1998. The seller was an absentee landlord who, for various reasons, wanted shot of it quickly. What he didn't know was that there was a very big hole being dug down the road. Less than a year after I completed that hole had opened as Bermondsey tube station, and my flat had jumped in value from £60k to £180k. The station has been followed by a lot of new housing development - over the back, behind Jamaica Road. Mind you, knowing Southwark that would probably have happened anyway. "If in doubt, build a house" seems to be the Council's motto.
@luisstransport10 ай бұрын
Great video Jago
@gsix010 ай бұрын
Always love an appearance for Mr Gooch Ware Travelstead, the mystery man with the weirdest name ever!
@martinploughboy98810 ай бұрын
As one whose grandparents lived in Bermondsey, I was always a little peeved at having to trek to Tower Hill to catch the underground, but 'Bermondsey station wouldn't have been any better.
@blakejarrettegibbons911910 ай бұрын
I used to work around bermondsey and it is a fairly nice area compared to other parts I worked before. I also found out from an old work colleague that bermondsey beer mile gets it's name not because it goes into bermondsey but because it's the end of the beer mile the working community use to start at the bermondsey end!
@sloanelouch39310 ай бұрын
Ahhh the smell of biscuit town ❤
@jacksugden819010 ай бұрын
The DLR was originally envisaged to be a tran route, deemed to expensive, to run the light rail service in the middle of the street would have meant it being classed as a tram service. That was not immediately a problem, as the railway was still being thought of as a conventional service, with a driver, so a tram was not a major change in how the service would operate.
@JagoHazzard10 ай бұрын
Funny you should mention that. The DLR tram thing gets a brief mention in an upcoming video.
@jacksugden819010 ай бұрын
@@JagoHazzard Yes they envisaged a mini tram system way back in 1973, think in the end that it was far easier to have it above the roads using some old railway viaducts, unsure it it was cheaper, certainly less destructive and eventually sent of the River Thames. Noted your comment about Olympia & York. One thing after another, many years later, and the London Docklands Development Corporation was established in 1981. It commissioned the then London Transport to evaluate a number of exclusively light rail options, this time using trams, well you know the rest… I certainly missed not using the DLR, having moved to another part of town, odd how this and the Croydon Tramlink hadn’t extended into central London and beyond, creating a London-wide network after the Tramcars were withdrawn in 1952, I remember Trolleybuses in London that were withdrawn before 1961 at Aldgate.
@mikemidulster10 ай бұрын
Another brilliant, socially conscious video!
@andrewweitzman400610 ай бұрын
Those beams and slabs remind me a lot of the Montreal Metro stations. Very brutalist.
@PMA6553710 ай бұрын
Captured the weather but missed the station's lift.
@andrewah1510 ай бұрын
Great video. Very informative and interesting. 👍🏾
@vette110 ай бұрын
that station should absolutely get a mixed residential building but on top
@sianwarwick63310 ай бұрын
I think the structure would starg sinking before completion, but don't quote me
@Steven_Rowe10 ай бұрын
Bermondsey also has a bit of a macabre past to it. My late father was a mine of useless but nevertheless interesting information. He worked for the Whitechapel bell foundry as a bell hanger which means he installed bells. One day in the late mid to late 60s he went to a company in old Kent Road Bermondsey to buy ropes for the transit flatbed truck. These were to tie loads down loads etc. Well he told us about the place and how they produced hangmans ropes and described what they looked like and no typical wildwest hangmans knot. They used to supply to the home office but still made them to export to Commonwealth countries that still had capital punishment. A few years ago I reflected on this story and decided to search Mister Google. Yes a company called John Edgington of Old Kent Road was a rope manufacturer who produced these 13 foot ropes with a noose and brass ferrule on one end a simple brass ferrule at the other end. I notice that LT who useds different tiles and Motti at each station did not choose to have a noose for Bermondsey. Perhaps they don't know about this macabre infamy surrounding Bermondsey.
@imsbvs10 ай бұрын
I was there today, went through the station on a crowded train without even noticing it, as one does when going from A to B standing all the way (North Greenwich to Waterloo)
@richarddaygm10 ай бұрын
Talking of a tube to lewisham, this is in the news again this week, with the route from E&C firming up, following the OKR to NXG, terminating at lewisham. Like CHX, this is unlikely to be the long term destination, with catford down the rd and a massive high rise site planned a little further down on the bellingham gas works. The trains will be rammed by the time they get to e&c.
@paultidd933210 ай бұрын
I’m liking the more cynical commentary we have with this film, keep it up!
@julianaylor435110 ай бұрын
For once a Tube transport compromise seems to have worked out well, because there was some forward planning for once...if only this was a common thing, with all our rail projects.
@dinothelastdinosaur10 ай бұрын
Does it get used as much as the planning,cost and projections that went into it? Superb informative stuff. Very addictive stuff this is...
@t.p.mckenna10 ай бұрын
Oooh er, 'WestCOOM Park' you say. It's one of my local stops and we only call it WestCUM. I'll welcome correcting if i have that wrong.
@TREVORALLMAN10 ай бұрын
I've lived here 50 years and my Dad was based at the Police Station in Combedale Road before that, and I would concur with your "Westcum".
@gsygsy10 ай бұрын
Brilliant, as ever
@bingbong731610 ай бұрын
Please tell me that Gooch Ware Travelstead is the What Three Words location of Canary Wharf.
@danielm.144110 ай бұрын
When an American gentleman named *what*?!
@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial10 ай бұрын
Not Yerkes
@mjfishersound10 ай бұрын
Hell of a name
@cv990a410 ай бұрын
@@markiangooleyyep. I know a guy who is the product of two prominent families in a big southern city. He uses his mother's maiden name as his first name.
@ZGryphon10 ай бұрын
The majesty that is "Gooch" aside, I still think "G. Ware Travelstead" is exactly the name that a shady developer trying to force the locals out of their homes in a Scooby-Doo episode would have. Shaggy pulls the mask off the zombie that's been terrorizing the good people of the Docklands and jinkies! it's Mr. Travelstead!
@AndreiTupolev10 ай бұрын
And for once none of the names contains the words Charles, Tyson or Yerkes
@neilflood650810 ай бұрын
Hmmm! An American gentleman not named Charles Tyson Yerkes.
@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial10 ай бұрын
Shocking!
@lewis_chronicles10 ай бұрын
Go through it nearly everyday. Be lucky to see anyone get on or off. Nice video
@myonlydemandisbacktowork875910 ай бұрын
If you tends to use the wrong end of the platform then I think it's indeed the case When I lived in Canada Water, I see most people get on/off near the escalator
@baldytail10 ай бұрын
Quite often have to wait at rush hour for the next train thanks to where this line serves
@lewis_chronicles10 ай бұрын
@@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759 maybe the case! But as the train zooms off. Barely see anyone past. I know it’s used. But passenger numbers are super low in comparison to the 5 stations either side of it! To the right. Canning Town must be the quietest. But can get super busy too. To the left before the post Baker Street stations maybe Southwark?