A United States of Europe by 2030 - How would it work?

Will the EU integrate into a Federal United States Of the European Union? Maybe like the US or Swiss model? Or will the EU develop into an intergovernmental or Confederal Europe? This video will look into what a Federation is and what the EU could do to become one. It also looks into Macron's vision, which is a multi-tiered EU.
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[@Diegoromir]

I genuinely believe that, only united, Europe will be strong in this new multipolar world, between Russia, USA and China, but I think that United States of Europe is a terrible name, I'll go with European Union.

[@syncradar]

European Federation sounds good too

[@Diegoromir]

@@syncradar Yes, and there is already a famous United States of ***. I think that's not creative.

[@esziis]

We also need Lelouch :v

[@ougiz325]

United Republics of Europe, sounds best to me

[@syncradar]

@@ougiz325 European Union of Federal Republics

[@emanuelcruz8127]

Actually the idea of three tiers is not a bad idea, its like a trial of sort for each country, they could try each tier and see where they fit better without compromise de rest of the other countries and themselves having three choices instead of one. Just change the Federal Flag, its mimicking the US flag and its ugly, the EU flag is already the official european flag and is aesthetically beautiful with the navy blue background and stars.

[@EUMadeSimple]

I agree. I created the ugly flag just to emphasize the EU changing to a federal model. I also love the current flag and see no need for change

[@emanuelcruz8127]

@@EUMadeSimple of course, i get it, the "Federal flag" was to make a point. :)

[@cavalex]

and the name shouldn't be "United States of Europe", but we should keep the current one.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Yes I agree :)

[@Klote3241]

I live in a country where policies arent being determined by religious motivation... only small ammount of parties have religious undertone in it. This goes for most nordic/western european nations. Eastern and Southern European nations would vote with religious intent. This would be one of the MAJOR issues. Its also a reason why i am not supportive of Federalizing the european union. It should stay an economic zone with rules in place for fair level playing field and trade. it should stay away from social policies. the cultural differences are to great, and i would not want a external group of people to dictate where my fellow military gets to fight. (NATO every nation has VETO power so doesn't count)

[@RealityCheck6969]

That "common immigration policy" will brake Europe.

[@JarinCOD]

Definitely. We are not interested in being another Swedistan.

[@Gandalfthefabulous]

Tbh it breaks national governments allready, my Dutch government fell because of it. Don't think it will be that different. I heard a political historian a while ago that mentioned immigration has been a key theme in elections since the start of our democracy. Our society hasn't collapsed and won't, as long as we keep thinking.

[@magnem1043]

As long as Israel is also included in these policies, all their tribe members sitting in the EU.. else its just genocide

[@Silent_Suika]

@@Gandalfthefabulousactually I think it could even help to spread the immigrants out over all the countries with a common immigration law how much space how much you can take and such questions and laws when and how to send back immigrants that are too much already at the most outer country borders instead of making false promises to them and wink them to the next country where they also dont have space. if you communicate commonly who can still take some more you can also avoid having to put them into prisons or other institutes until you know how to deal with them if you know how to deal with them before hand. dont waste our time dont waste their time.

[@Gandalfthefabulous]

@@Silent_Suika yes, except most right-wing parties that are in power don't have any interest in a working immigration policy. That's what they did in the Netherlands, they sabotaged our own immigration policy so it didn't work. Now that everything isn't working, immigrants don't get integrated and turn to crime, they can say we should kick everyone out and get re-elected. They'll sabotage any real plans that will actually fix it, try to make the debate as toxic as possible so that parties that actually take a well-considered approach are seen as 'betrayers' or parties just don't dare to touch the subject.

[@SP-cn5lq]

As a german, i would love this to happen. Because in the future only a united europe will matter internationally.

[@what8139]

Also because Germany would basically rule the rest of us.

[@pantheraleo1047]

@@what8139 Not more than it already does...

[@MDP1702]

@@what8139 No, it wouldn't. It would only have around 15% of the votes in the union.

[@pantheraleo1047]

@@MDP1702 Yup. But Germany has still a lot of Power in Europe, but more die to its Economy than politcally. But EU or not, Germany has this economic Power either way😂

[@MDP1702]

@@pantheraleo1047 Honestly I'd say Germany loses power in a European federal state. Now it can use its influence to put pressure on other memberstates/leaders, in a federal system they can't really put pressure on all the European voters, not could they pressure another state without the federal government getting involved. They'd be like California or Texas, a powerfull state to be sure, but not exactly rule the federal state. Hell, it is even possible that Germany would in such a system split up more along the lines of its current states/provinces. Possibly also a similar case with other larger nations.

[@golagiswatchingyou2966]

I think a federal EU is inevitable but it will only last if it both represents the people's interests and is able to act better, faster and stronger than any individual member state.

[@EUMadeSimple]

I agree. I think the EU also has a PR problem. People do not know what benefits it brings

[@Luca-cs8fy]

man, we don't even speak the same language

[@golagiswatchingyou2966]

@@Luca-cs8fy don't we all Speak English as a second language at this point? Its not about creating a single language superstate and forcing everyone to speak the same language or have the same culture, its about political, economical and national security interests being secured for the interests of memberstates themselves, we are stronger together, thats it.

[@Luca-cs8fy]

@@golagiswatchingyou2966 no we don't 🤣 vast majority of europeans can't have a conversation in english, yet they make it in the statistics as english speakers. Btw almost nobody in europe would agree with the idea of a united europe "super nation". The fact that it would be good for the economy, security other stuff is not a good reason to force it against the will of the general population

[@DiogoJ1]

@@Luca-cs8fy Only old people or people who refuse to learn. English is pretty much everywhere on the internet.

[@TheCHEESE333]

i would definitely love a video diving into the topic of a multi tier Europe! seems to be the most logical step forward

[@watershed8685]

I am not really keen on that as it might divide Europe even more. But on another hand, reluctant nations might join a federalized arrangement just in order not to be left behind.

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

I think some kind of formalized halfway EU similar to EFTA with no veto but no need for military, monetary, agricultural and fisheries policy, social issues

[@Findalfen]

@@watershed8685 It's kind of already the case though. We have EU, Schengen area, Eurozone and NATO (even though that's not only European countries). All have different members. At least with a tier system, it standardizes and clarifies what each mean.

[@EUMadeSimple]

I have created a video on tiers. It's called Macrons Vision for Europe on my channel :). If you are interested of course

[@37-GARLIC]

I'm from Romania ( that country that you always find at the bottom of any list) , and what I wanna see is a Danish prosecutor investigating Le Pen sources of money ( just and example) or a French prosecutor investigating corruption from countries like Romania or Bulgaria, .. I think that if the EU creates a minister of justice for all eu members , most of our problems would disappear

[@vladtheimpaler5454]

dont you know..the rules are for us not for them

[@jamesc2899]

A single justice minister, even if he is the most honest, cannot change the mentality of 20 million people in Romania. It takes the will of those 20 million Romanians, for the situation to change. It is a big task but not impossible.

[@37-GARLIC]

@@jamesc2899 we have a different mentality but I live in the uk and I can tell you we are not so different... The problem in eastern Europe is that all the press is bought by oligarchs who run the countries.. and people are manipulated .. that's all

[@jamesc2899]

@@37-GARLIC I hear you but I know the situation in Eastern Europe improved a lot over the three decades after the fall of communism. You mentioned corruption... The problem with corruption is not about who controls the media. Let me ask you this, if tomorrow all the media owners will be changed, the policeman who used to take bribes and the citizen who used to pay the bribes, will they change their behavior because the owners of the media changed? I don't think so... If the simple citizen doesn't change his mindset about corruption, this citizen once in power will do exactly the same thing like his predecessors. The change starts in the heart of every individual, oligarch, beggar, or in the between. And the change of heart has to do with spirituality and faith in God.

[@37-GARLIC]

@@jamesc2899 probably, I'm 25 and when i left Romania I was 18 .. you may be right so I didn't interact too much with adults there to see how they really think

[@user-oj4ll2bf6k]

No, I do not see that this is possible, in 2030, or even 2050. The policies and interests of some countries are radically opposed to each other. I as an Eastern European, do not see an equal attitude towards us in the politics of Western Europe. I have never seen any universal cultures and ideologies of the EU other than business, and this is not enough for a single state / federation. In addition, a single united army of the EU still does not exist, and I consider this a symbol of the fact that the EU countries, even neighbors, have not begun to trust each other in matters of external security (no, NATO does not count).

[@TheSlyngel]

You are correct. And its not in any of the states around the baltics intrests to be part of a federation.

[@solarpunk_hive1306]

I firmly approve

[@smokeyhoodoo]

"I as an Eastern European, do not see an equal attitude towards us in the politics of Western Europe." We have a victim

[@user-oj4ll2bf6k]

@@smokeyhoodoo Don't take your example from the yankees in the "victim theme". You are in the wrong position and in the wrong situation to.

[@smokeyhoodoo]

@@user-oj4ll2bf6k You lot invented Capitalism to cope, you're wilfully unequal

[@magicsalmon1803]

Nice video! You are putting out incredibly detailed and explanatory videos Keep it up!

[@EUMadeSimple]

Thank you. Glad you like them :)

[@jesperPLZ]

The EU should be focused on cooperation between sovereign nation-states instead of being run top down. Italians aren’t Germans and Hungarians aren’t Dutch. There are so many different cultures withing Europe that uniting them in essentially one country would cause so much friction that nations would seccede within years, and hopefully that will go peacefully because we only have to look back to the 90s to see what happens if it doesn’t

[@blackhole3298]

And be ruled by outsiders? To be independent is not a simple choice one can make, it is a choice that must be backed by power. The old powers of Europe are gone. We either have to submit to the US, Russia, China and in the future India. We will not have the market power, cultural power nor military power to resist foreign takeover. What can a company from Hungary that has 10 million people do against a company out of China or India? It is powerless. The outside companies can destroy our companies and their damage would be negligible. Same with our culture. Our culture can hardly be exported anymore, instead we will in future start importing culture through open capitalism. the foreign trends, companies and ideas will invade Europe. You also have to be delusional if you think you we are immune to this. Just look how our kids are dependent on Social Media. Tim Tok, Snapchat, WhatsApp slowly will erode our values and at the moment we are importing US values. In the future we will start importing Indian and Chinese trends and values through such trends. The only respect for European cultures comes out of Europe itself. No outside nation respects our cultures and most even hate our cultures and want to destroy them. the question of European Unification of at least industrial and foreign as well as military policy is a question of our survival. We were dominant for so long because we were the only ones that were dominating. the world was a game between europeans and the fact that we are on one continent caused the respectful way we dealt with one another, for most of history, not alway.Outsiders will not play the world game with the same intentions.

[@homeape.]

Italians aren't Germans and so on is the most meaningless utterance ever. i could say the same thing about every state on earth. theres a huge difference between northern germany and southern germany. there's a huge difference between Brittany and Alsace. that's why there are local levels to take care of that. especially to take care of cultural stuff. that's literally the idea between europe, to keep the pluralism in culture...

[@lordcutlerbeckett58]

That is why we left

[@solarpunk_hive1306]

I firmly approve

[@des_moines840]

​@@blackhole3298time changes. Our golden time is past, it's the golden time of other countries now. Amen

[@fabulouscat3911]

Good job! I would definitely love another video about this topic

[@isacute161]

The tree models you have presented: a United States of Europe and the two tiers models is the best way. I've thought about it and I think that would be the best solution

[@isabellacatolica5594]

Solution to what? To become anothet US? Thats delusional

[@maia2828]

​@@isabellacatolica5594 ngl i would love to call it the United States of Europe to piss off americans. since the usa is going down these days we could become the new better united states, like a competitor

[@popelgruner595]

If you do a videos on tiers of integration, could you please keep in mind how Europe is set up today? Like the layers of such a tier system already kind of exist. Council of Europe (very weak as an international organisation due to veto, provides a transeuropean framework), EEA (not really in the EU but participating in the single market and hence bound be EU rules), the EU itself and then the informal inner group of the EU with the EURO-zone, Schengen and finally the Inner Six who are most likely to integrate further.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Makes complete sense and i'll do my best :)

[@ignaciogarcia9546]

Nice video. Keep going!!!

[@MyReiners]

Defence is a tricky one. Will a EU defence force defend Aruba against an attack of Venezuela? Will a country like Denmark need to supply soldiers for strategic interests of France in Africa? Some EU countries still have some interests in former colonies. Will the EU army be a defensive army? Or will it be an army with global expeditionary reach. Will teh EU defence force be a nuclear armed force? France is today a nuclear force, as is the UK (although no EU member at this moment. What about NATO, countries like Belgium, Netherland have their airforce configured for tactical nuclear weapons (US placed weapons), will Germany (call it German EU ubits) need to have the same requirement. Will the next generation Ballistic French submarines or Carrier be European and also be financed by Germany, Luxemburg, etc. At those questions there are no answers

[@Europeanunionsoldier]

Yes yes and yes. An EU military would project power globally just like the US military. It would be an offensive and defensive military.

[@MyReiners]

@@Europeanunionsoldier Really, you think Polish or Danish body bags will be accepted for dying in Venezuela or in African country, because it is interest of Amsterdam or Paris? Polish people will never accept fighting for economical ambition off Paris. A European army can only be for defence against a common threat. For a Greek, the Turkish republic is more a threat than for example a South African nation.

[@angelamaximo1241]

It will not work. For example in relation to the army, the security needs of an Estonian and a Portuguese are very different. Furthermore, with the growing authoritarianism of Brussels over countries, it is easier to regress from the current position than to advance to another point. If even tiny Belgium is about to split, imagine the entire continent united.

[@margaretjones777]

The biggest problem with any form of EU "democracy" is that it is attempting to integrate very different countries, some of which are, quite literally, 200 times bigger than others. In an attempt to prevent the larger countries from overwhelming the smaller ones, the EU parliament is massively skewed towards the smaller countries, such that (for example) Luxembourg enjoys roughly thirty times as much representation-per-capita as Germany. This works fine when the EU is a benevolent trading block, but it becomes a serious problem when the EU aspires to being a de-facto single state. In effect, a citizen of Germany would have only one thirtieth the say of a citizen of Luxembourg - hardly a fair or democratic situation. If, however, the EU was to agree that the votes of all citizens should carry the same weight, then the EU would be dominated by a handful of larger countries, whilst the many smaller nations would have hardly any influence at all. In practice, the EU has worked very well for the smaller nations, massively magnifying their power and importance; but it has worked less well for the larger nations, many of whose citizens feel (quite rightly) that they have been excluded from democratic decision making. EU aspirations to replace the larger nations with smaller "regions" (i.e to effectively wipe France, Germany, Italy, Spain and, previously, England) from the map) are self-evidently a recipe for civil war. It's worth remembering that in the latest French elections, fully 65% of the electorate (and 70% of the young) voted for Eurosceptic parties of the far-right and far-left. Even within one of the EU's core states, there is little appetite for the abolition of France.

[@Alejojojo6]

If it was the other way around, then Luxembourg or Hungary would have no say or very little say and Germany would have a stronger power in the matters. The system of equal representation is done so a citizen in any country has a similar power to another and not just based on population. If it was that way only 4 countries would be truly ruling the EU. In my country we have that system. So underpopulated regions have more to say, so their voting power is stronger than lets say someone who lives in the capital (but it is done so those regions arent completely erased from the picture, because then they will get 0 seats and thus politicians would straightforwards forget about them and not invest in them since they have little politican meaning).

[@EncourageLegacy]

Realistic comment. Thank you.

[@himlingpatrice]

However, there would be a simple solution for all countries to be represented in a way that suits everyone. Two assemblies, as in the USA. A lower chamber where there would be respect for the "one man, one vote" principle and an upper chamber where each country would have the exact same number of representatives. A European "law" should, in order to be validated, be voted on in identical terms by the two assemblies. This would also make it possible to no longer involve heads of state and government in the management of Europe. These people were elected to lead their countries and not the EU...

[@margaretjones777]

Yes, that might work. But again, the devil would be in the detail. Would the second chamber be merely a revisional chamber like the House of Lords, or would it have full blocking powers like the Senate? You can see problems either way. The real issue is that in Europe people feel far more loyalty towards their own countries than they do towards the "supranational imperial power", whereas, in the USA it's the other way round. In the end, the big countries will feel cheated if they don't get their full say, and the small ones will feel bullied unless they get enhanced influence and even blocking powers. And what happens if Ukraine joins? At that point the "dependent countries" will outweigh the "net contributors" on every measure. To put this in perspective, I recently noted an Irish commentator bemoaning the fact that Ireland (the EU's richest nation) was having to make bigger annual contributions, and resisting furiously the suggestion that Ireland's disproportionately large influence might need to diminish in order to accommodate the needs of other countries. In particular, they resented the fact that Ireland might need to forego some of its tax-haven policies. If even Ireland can't be persuaded to consider the "greater European need", then what hope can there possibly be for a United States of Europe?

[@gyfry_spoit9126]

gg

[@JosieN-ns8rm]

Thank you, very good info. A video on the history of the idea of a United States of Europe and how it began and has evolved would be good to have. I remember reading that Napoleon spoke of the need for a United States of Europe.

[@isabellacatolica5594]

It never happend because you can't mergue tens of cultures and states into only one

[@maia2828]

@@isabellacatolica5594 that was the issue back in the day yeah. but let's be real these days the culture of young europeans has merged into one "general european" culture (or even general western culture if you include north america and the commonwealth) thanks to the internet and everyone knowing english. practically the same political parties, ideologies, and societal conversations exist in every eu country nowadays among the youth.

[@cucco1]

This was a joy to watch! I'm already hyped for the next part.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Happy you enjoyed it

[@hackman669]

I love democracy. Peeves Palpatine. 😄

[@eclipsenow5431]

Very well summarised and easy to understand - thank you!

[@JoeCitizensBlues]

No. How do you run an EU federal army? France's president has total power over the deployment of the military. Germany's military cannot do anything without parliamentary authorization. The Poles and Baltic countries look to the US for military defense, and for good reason looking at Ukraine. These differences will be irreconcilable for generations.

[@mikicerise6250]

Presumably you levy forces from each member state into a federal force, but let's be realistic, it would be a clusterfuck. Probably easier to just absorb NATO command.

[@tripspointcom7062]

Ukraine join EU and EU forms unified EU Army. The problem solved.

[@clickrick]

These are all good questions, but good questions bring about debate. If the debate is genuine, candid, and done in good faith, then they can be answered. Sorry, I said "If the debate is genuine, candid, and done in good faith". That of course requires greater transparency and democratic accountability, something which was not even touched on in this video.

[@solarpunk_hive1306]

I firmly approve

[@Europeanunionsoldier]

Simple. You need both EU and State authorization to deploy military. Or we could have one Army for the EU and separate smaller armies for individual state issues.

[@Marco-zt6fz]

Great Video. This project will be great, but in the video says, to adopt, the Swiss Model. I find also this model will a great solution. to make a direct democratcy for Europe. In the direct democratcy has the politician to listing also to the people, then they can also vote.

[@joaomonteiro1562]

Amazing video! Keep up with good job! You gained a new subscriber

[@EUMadeSimple]

Awesome, thank you! :)

[@johnkijkt2713]

Very interesting!! Thanks from the netherlands.

[@Napoleon_Blownapart]

If they end the veto right of the countries, they will end the whole of EU. No member state would follow some foreign policy that goes against their interest. That would just break the EU apart. The whole concept of the EU is about consensus and unity. The EU does not have the same conditions the US had when it was created.

[@djprojectus]

Correct.👍

[@maximusasauluk7359]

You can't possibly expect consensus from all countries in the EU as it's expanding... it's impractical. The majority based on population is literally how democracy works (and it's already implemented in the EU). Countries like Hungary in the EU, Russia in the UN and Turkey in NATO are all making the unions look like an embarrassing clownshow because the veto vote exists. The EU can't make rational decisions because one member is a recently emerged dictator (Hungary). Paralyzing the whole union is better than taking more power from individual countries? How is it better for the Union when everyone wants to move forward except one dumbass? Each having veto power is a better alternative to them staying stuck? NATO is an embarrassment with the Swedish and Finnish memberships because Erdogan has tantrums every other week. The UN, which I emphasize stands for the United Nations, can't deploy peacekeepers to Ukraine to stop a war on it's doorstep because the member that started it (Russia) has veto power and so everyone sits in those fancy chairs looking like fucking clowns. Vetos are a mistake, a result of this need for extra power. You can't expect everyone to agree 100%, better remove vetoes with the chance of at best the state leaving the union and at worst the union collapsing, than the alternative that is going on in all these unions where they are paralysed and essentially useless and pointless.

[@fyrenoftelios767]

This is a super interesting video, thanks for the very clear explanations ! Not a simple task to explain the intricacies of the EU and still be understood ^-^" I also think a multi-tiered EU is a very interesting idea - it could help alleviate most of the structure's rigidity by making it more flexible and reactive. Although I see several issues with it, and I wonder what you think about them... First off, a major risk is to make the EU a lot more complex than it already is, to the point that people might just not be bothered to figure out how it works. Plus, I'm not sure if the jump to a Federal Tier is a very viable thing: you can't walk in and out of a Federal state very easily, and I fear that having an actual federation within the EU would permanently split it (other countries would just never really make the jump). Finally, there's the question of a shared identity: the differences between polish and portuguese cultures, histories, languages, etc for example are so wide that I struggle to see an actual coherent european identity form in such a way that a legitimate democracy can be founded. At least - not for now and not for a while ^-^" In any event, thank you for this video and keep doing what you do, it's super interesting and well made!

[@EUMadeSimple]

thank you! they are all valid issues that you raise and not easily solved. While the EU is already very complex, I don't see another way forward rother than a tiered model. I don't think we will ever have 27 countries agree (36 once the 9 candidates join) on a common way forward. Some countries want to integrate, some don't. Therefore, we need to create a more federal union for the willing and a looser union for those that don't. Moving between the tiers would be like accession. Obviously there are a lot of details to figure out, but at this moment in time it is the best option imo.

[@Spido68_the_spectator]

i don't think getting a single european identity is needed. One can just embrance the diversity

[@fyrenoftelios767]

@@Spido68_the_spectator I also think that diversity is what makes Europe beautiful, but the case remains... Democracy has, since its modern inception in the USA and France 250y ago, always been in the framework of a nation-state. The nation represents a people. And well, one pretty central element of being part of a people is to share some measure of identity. Imagining a truly democratic United States of Europe means motivating Europeans to become one people, or to reinvent democracy completely. Which isn't easy. It's tough to motivate Spaniards or Cypriots to go vote on European interests and choose between a Lettonian and a French representative, when they have to speak English to understand each other, for example... It's a very thorny topic that could end up in a failed state with enormous abstention rates if mishandled :/

[@ubinoimpertoso7115]

Thank you for this video, it's interesting and help have a better clear idea of current situation

[@EUMadeSimple]

Gladly :)

[@_macedonian]

Thease topics are very intresting. I would love it if we went into more detail on them in the future!

[@rjalb2]

I think the EU should be a federal state. It would be better for everyone

[@popelgruner595]

Agreed. Federalized on the levels necessary, like foreign policy, defense, fiscal but with only a framework legislation in other sectors.

[@Dragon-mv6vy]

yes, stronger for sure

[@jiggy7108]

never

[@Dragon-mv6vy]

@@jiggy7108 nope, it has to happen, otherwise, it will just die, united arab federative states will come one day and fu* everyone

[@BobInGreek]

you guys are really dumb to the bone. You cant be serious, do you even think?

[@irishgamer8412]

I rather Ireland leave then lose independence we fighted for 100s of years to be freedom.

[@Ohhiohh]

I doubt this would happen

[@invictor2761]

why are all northern europeans so against allying to create something better... norway and iceland wont join cuz theyre scared of federalism. uk left cuz of it. denmark talks about leaving cuz of it. and now apparently the irish... i hate you all

[@belstar1128]

Yea most countries don't want that even Ireland will start fighting and imagine how the east will react to this.

[@fedethefico]

Great video!

[@Cornish2002]

The EU needs to fix the rest of its problems before it can even consider federalising

[@solarpunk_hive1306]

I firmly approve

[@Europeanunionsoldier]

Sure but we can at least create a EU army already.

[@bongokamerad]

Awesome vid. Ever heard of Volt Europa? Its a party trying to achieve a federal Europe.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Yes I have. :) They have a very cool vision and thanks !

[@matrix01234567899]

Federation can be stable only, if it is based on one nation (for example USA, Germany). Looking for a history multinational federations felt appart (Yugoslavia, USSR, Czechoslovakia). To make EU a stable federation you need to create common national identity first, but it isn't easy.

[@hackman669]

Nepolian started the process. 😁

[@indrast5203]

It's impossible to create a common national identity , you can't put a Greek and a German or a Bulgarian and say they are the same .

[@electricangel4488]

​@@indrast5203you can if your a globalist or a racist

[@beyondEV]

Not easy, but not impossible. Switzerland did it. It's built around neutrality, which is why we do have a issue with joining the EU. But the Swiss system is carefully designed specifically to balance the interests out and compromise is built into the system as well. There is significant more cultural difference, between parts of switzerland compared to parts of switzerland to neighbour regions of other nations.

[@des_moines840]

​@@beyondEVmy country, italy, is the most anti eu of the continent. You should do it without us maybe

[@Pedanta]

Great video

[@gorazionelson]

It would be nice to see possible steps toward this new EU. It's a very useful and actual subject to go deeply.

[@des_moines840]

We italians hate this idea. Will never happen with us

[@Mr.Septon]

The three tiered system is often what I think about. I definitely think that the nations within the European Union that want to become part of a Federal system should do that themselves, effectively becoming a nation within the European Union. Then you have the European Union as we know it, with the largest state being Federal Europe. Then outside of that would be the third tier for those who wish to move into on of the other tiers, or fore those who simply want to be more involved, but not necessarily as directly integrated.

[@barrystubbs983]

Shane Shepton, lika a mini America?

[@isabellacatolica5594]

Its not gonna pass, or else we are gonna revolt

[@tim_d_jong]

Great video ! I'd love to hear more about a Federal EU. I am from the Netherlands but I live in France, so I notice the benefits of the EU in my daily life (for example with no strict borders between the Netherlands and France when I'm traveling). I love the EU, and even though it isn't perfect (yet), a Federal EU is the only way forward. The EU shouldn't decide everything, like we shouldn't become a nation as the UK, but something like Switzerland seems great ! Some issues are better discussed on a federal level such as with fiscal and military decisions, and others better on national ones. We should really try to split the power 50-50, so that every issue gets discussed on the best level, and that the problems can be solved as fast as possible and in the best way possible. An EU Army has the potential to be as powerful as the one of the US if we work together and on a Federal level. Of course this won't happen in a day nor a year, but in 10 years we could be much more relevant and powerful than today. You don't see any country messing with the US and it's borders because people know that it's the most powerful military in the world, and I know that an EU Army would have the same effect. Turkey wouldn't bother Greece anymore because if they attack, they won't fight against Greece's army but against the EU's. Nations and peoples shouldn't lose their voice to the EU such as with the USSR, but we shouldn't let one country blackmail the rest of Europe either with vetoes and unanimity, as we see with Hungary today. Vetoes must be abolished as soon as possible. Majority voting is the best solution for this problem. "Divided we fall, United we stand" 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺

[@EUMadeSimple]

I am in a similar situation. I am also Dutch but live in Germany and can work here without a Visa. And even just yesterday my flight got delayed and I got monetary compensation due to EU legislation... For me the benefits are obvious :) And with superpowers such as China and the US, we need to stick together if we want any say & influence in the world.

[@tim_d_jong]

@@EUMadeSimple Exactly. Everyone I've spoken to is pro-EU, well at least after having spoken with me. Of course I had some friends (very few but still some) who were not a big fan of the EU, but than I explained to them some of the benefits of the EU and then they weren't so pessimistic anymore. That's very important. We have to educate people, in every EU country and abroad, in explaining why the EU matters and what benefits it brings. I also tell them that obviously the EU isn't perfect (yet) but that in stead of complaining, thinking on a national level while competing against rising global superpowers, and being pessimistic about the EU and wanting to leave it, they better think of solutions rather than the problems. They have the right to critise the EU but they should try improving it rather than abandoning it. If there's a problem with your car you don't complain all day long and stop driving, you get your car repaired so it'll work even better. That's why proper education and communication are very important. We should acknowledge our mistakes and problems in order to improve them. We shouldn't educate people only about the good things in the EU because that'd be propaganda like in the USSR, but we should tell them : "it's very good, these are the benefits, these are the problems, and now try to fix the problems in order to increase the benefits"

[@dusenkarotte007]

@@EUMadeSimple I am german near the french and luxembury border. It is so easy to travel. So nice! But one point you forgot the Language. Which Language will be the offical one? German? French? English? Or everything? Me i am for English it is an easy Language and very many people can speak it. Even me an 14 year old german kid who is very intrested in the EU as a State.

[@tim_d_jong]

@@dusenkarotte007 the official will either be English since a lot of people speak it pretty well, but also all the other languages. Like the EU website, you can have the site in English or in any desired language

[@dusenkarotte007]

@@tim_d_jong yeah thats right no problem with it. I mean everybody can speak it. Even my new Ukrainian classmate.

[@pavelmyroniuk2587]

Very good video!

[@EUMadeSimple]

thanks !

[@ramirogarai]

Excellent documentary

[@evzenvarga9707]

Hopefully not.

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

A multi-tier EU makes sense for such a diverse place as Europe. I like the three tier idea. I want a lot more cooperation on organised crime, and health care especially

[@lordsummerisle852]

More cooperation on organised crime? Hopefully they'll also crack down on hate speech, wrong think and climate change denial. I really hope that under an EU superstate these things are properly addressed.

[@lordsummerisle852]

* I missed out anti vaxxers

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

@@lordsummerisle852 that would be terrible, and amount to massive government control of speech

[@lordsummerisle852]

@TheSwedishHistorian free speech poses a huge threat. Same with wrongthink. But it's OK because soon there will be implantable microchips that stop people having problematic thoughts.

[@lordsummerisle852]

@TheSwedishHistorian I am confident that the EU will be able to mandate these chips along with new vaccines. Digital social credits wouldn't go amiss either. Look at how China's social credits system prevents people from having dissenting views. A strong EU will be like China 🇨🇳

[@pstarzer]

nice work

[@adammobile7149]

Well done

[@VictorECaplon]

Healthcare and foreign policies need to be EU based for people’s rights across the continent. I would also argue, some measures like education and work rights should have an EU baseline, but should be state based (and in some cases region based).

[@EUMadeSimple]

I like that idea. A minimum baseline from the EU and then the countries can customize as they see fit

[@paul1979uk2000]

@@EUMadeSimple A minimum baseline should be done in a lot of areas, health care being one of them, but I think there is enough flexibility to do health care at a nation level or even region level as that would be a lot more flexible whiles creating new ideas in becoming a better and more effective system as each region can do it's own thing whiles having a minimum baseline set by the EU.

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

mostly I want more cooperation between police against organised crime

[@MachivelianBear]

Sorry. But the foreign policy goals of Portugal and Estonia are not the same.

[@ravanpee1325]

Nope, because a medical doctor in Romania will earn less than an unemployed person in Germany.

[@jan.merlin.peters]

A really big problem is also that we don't speak the same language. Many EU citizens wouldn't even be able to communicate with their fellow EU citizens from other countries 😄😄 That's a big dividing factor on a social level!

[@brandonf1260]

English is the only language that seems to be common enough to use as something to gather around but I doubt anyone would want to make English even more prominent .

[@jan.merlin.peters]

@@brandonf1260 Theoretically it would be, yes. And I LOVE English. I think everyone should learn it well. But as of right now most Europeans do not speak English very well (and the elderly not at all). So there is no way we'd be all communicating in English. I just don't see this happening any time soon.

[@brandonf1260]

@@jan.merlin.peters I completely agree. Frankly the EU works best as an economic block, anything more is simply going to far and unrealistic.

[@jan.merlin.peters]

@@brandonf1260 For now I agree :) In the future everything's possible though haha But I am glad things are the way they are right now :)

[@JustScrapHD]

@@brandonf1260 Ironically none of the current EU members have english as their state language.

[@alexandrumarica47]

I dont think walking towards autoritharianism is a good idea at all. A confederation only becomes a federation when the interests of multilateralism arent protected and when people with hunger of power do their best to take control over other people's decisions.

[@Florian-tc5qh]

great Video

[@KeinNiemand]

I doubt it will ever happen since everyone would have to agree and that seems unlikely

[@aidasmatulaitis5175]

true unless you make them all zombies and slaves

[@Xuzyy]

Possibly never going to happen in the near future, EU countries don’t identify as close allies, they do now because of history and the fact that US has forced them to be friends but its not like California and Utah which from the start they identified under a single country the USA, in Europe first there is an immense difference between cultures if you compare West EU and East EU and for example Italy and Poland never been friends never had particular cultural shares, I would probably believe in a West EU country union because France and Italy are more similar in many things but EU with countries that goes from Hungary to Spain? Not going to happen at least in the near future, most of the east EU countries are ex-soviet again completly different history than say Italy/Germany, I know even Cali and Texas are different but they were always part of the USA from the start so they don’t have a recent different history

[@Rey99m]

Italy and Poland were friends historically, Poland is cited in italian hymn and i thono the reverse is also true

[@catpar5004]

Yes Poland want to stay bying Poland,Hungary wants to stay bying Hungary. we have been fighting for independence not to loose it because German wants to made a 4th crowd.

[@isabellacatolica5594]

Cali was as Texas mexican, it was stolen, so its not the same.

[@pep-qew1977]

​@@Rey99mwe were allies only because if Napoleon who save us both from other empires rule. Besides that we never had any common intrest in the past. And Polish legion was formed in Italy bc napoleon don't want poles to stay in france.

[@solarpunk_hive1306]

I firmly approve

[@adriaan6788]

I would be very interested in a video about a tiered EU. Both from an information perspective and from your personal view

[@EUMadeSimple]

Posted yesterday ;)

[@adriaan6788]

@@EUMadeSimple already watched and liked. Enjoyed the video 😄

[@GreaterEurope]

Nice Video

[@stalkerentertainment3671]

A multi ethnic state is not impossible but really difficult to hold together. Europe is, too divided for a "United States of Europe" especially when the divides are that big and there is practically nothing to unite people.

[@davidepalmisano6178]

Multi ethnic? Cmon

[@kr33tz]

@@davidepalmisano6178 Thats what it is though. There is no european ethnicity and there wont be one for atleast a couple centuries minimum.

[@neelbhaduri128]

Hello from India 😊 We're a living example of a multi ethnic country

[@solarpunk_hive1306]

I firmly approve

[@louispotter4103]

With high inflation, rising interest rates, and what looks like a likely recession on the horizon, I wonder if Germany and France will be seeking more financial integration with weak European economies when times really get tough

[@joeyvico]

Yes, more multi-tiered videos please

[@jimrooke2742]

Yes, give us more content on a multi tired Europe. In find that an interesting option.

[@Aggoenix]

Well the problem is, that pushing EU federalization+more unification will give a massive ammunition to different right-wing nationalistic parties and perhaps even push some EU-exit like parties. I think EU unification can work well between BeNeLux, nordic countries, baltic countries, Germany, some more prowestern central european like Czech Rep and Slovenia, Romania and probably Spain and Portugal, but there are strong anti-eu parties in France, Italy, Poland, Hungary, so i doubt them. Well and France, Italy and Poland combined have more than 150mil people.

[@paolocarpi4769]

in Italy no one dare speak against EU, not even Melonists. But they will try to forge some argument against further integration in the next years.

[@valentinab164]

As the other guy said, there’s virtually no Italian party that dreams of leaving the EU, neither left nor right

[@tomaszk9210]

Konfederacja in Poland had only 7% of support during last elections

[@des_moines840]

​@@paolocarpi4769after the ukraine war the % of anti eu increased in Italy and l am one of them

[@des_moines840]

​@@paolocarpi4769l doubt that italians will accept that. But you'll see that at the eu elections

[@accidentalgenius8252]

The federal eu flag is horrendous. If thats the flag, pls no.

[@EUMadeSimple]

haha I hope not either. I am no artist ;)

[@lucimicle5657]

I came here to complain about the flag too. Glad there are other people of culture. Just keep the current flag, it's cool.

[@accidentalgenius8252]

@@EUMadeSimple i am sorry to say this then. I dont have anything against your artist abilities😂

[@Naxt366]

Wow interesting!

[@chiefpat2658]

being French I do not support the idea of ​​a united Europe, we are several people and several countries like Italy or Poland understood this

[@c.t.7386]

This can only happen if Europeans develop a much stronger European identity than national identity and there is no evidence of this happening yet. Unlike the US or UK where English is a common language, there are just too many ways to divide and stoke nationalist sentiment in Europe. It would be a great project and I would love to see it within my lifetime but I an skeptical.

[@nylixneylix8785]

Being human is the only "identity" we need.

[@isabellacatolica5594]

​@@nylixneylix8785you are delusional

[@isabellacatolica5594]

It would be imposible. Euskera and many other languages are un danger, imagine what would happen if the official languages started to carve up our precious cultures ( happend and is happening right now with my beloved euskera)

[@mustanaamiotto3812]

@@nylixneylix8785 Finnish first, human second, european third.

[@smokeyhoodoo]

You're a nutjob

[@flotr6465]

Let's all hope this madness will never happen. Just imagining that some incompetent like Ursula von der Brainless will rule over me directly make me puke!

[@Ninjaananas]

She is already at an important position.

[@blagoevski336]

Nice

[@istoppedcaring6209]

the US has a limited common immigration pollicy, most states have a lot more internal freedom from the federal government than EU members have from the EU, I am all for it, but only if member states are given more internal freedom and exclusive authority over them exercising policy in these area's, and every EU political entity must be ellected directly by the EU population, either like the US with an emphasis on the majority oppinion per state probably best for such a diverse and culturally diverse union, or based on popular oppinion across the EU as a whole, which I predict will actually make certain smaller states with very specific needs decide to step out

[@SeregaKRYL]

As far as I remember, Switzerland is a confederation (hence the official name and acronym CH)

[@clutrike7956]

That Tier 1 Federal EU map looks very familiar... SPQR!

[@glenwillson5073]

You are absolutely spot on. That's exactly what the EU is destined to become.

[@Europeanunionsoldier]

​@@glenwillson5073 A man can dream 🇪🇺

[@glenwillson5073]

@@Europeanunionsoldier And dreams can turnout to be nightmares when realised and this one will.

[@berndhofmann752]

EU will function better and better! And we have a role model within us! Switzerland!! It will take some years. But it's the future!!! Greetings from Spain! ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@liva236muzika]

Multitiered Europe definitely appeals to me as an engineer. Integrated yet flexible. Let's just hope there is enough wisdom throughout to pull this off.

[@realhawaii5o]

Find it interesting that in your tier 1 proposal you include more sceptical countries like Austria or Italy but exclude Portugal for example

[@EUMadeSimple]

Yes its a fair point. It is more of an example though. I also doubt these 6 countries will integrate more

[@thepizzaman_2241]

@@EUMadeSimple france is historically much more skeptical.than italy tbh

[@des_moines840]

​@@thepizzaman_2241we italians are the most anti eu country with France

[@jh5kl]

a nearly entire Europe following the same path and guidelines is unavoidable, either by direct influence of a foreign superpower or by Europe s self determination, obviously the later is the better option

[@paul1979uk2000]

Europeans tend to have a lot of pride because of its history, will Europeans want to play second fiddle to the likes of the US or China? That is what I think is really going to push us all together, self-interest in that for Europeans to compete with the US and China, Europeans will need to band together and we already have the perfect tool to make that happen with the EU, it just needs more reforms and integration for it to really protect the interest of Europeans.

[@evzenvarga9707]

"self determination" by being ruled by a foreign unelected authoritarian bureaucracy in Brussels.

[@mbogucki1]

@@evzenvarga9707 "Since 1979, the Parliament has been directly elected every five years by the citizens of the European Union through universal suffrage." Unelected eh?

[@davidevans916]

@@paul1979uk2000 agreed, I can also see the threat of Islam bringing us together

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

@@paul1979uk2000 Europe already plays second fiddle to the US and to a lesser extent China.

[@meadowsirl]

Smaller countries work better, more democratic and less corruption bottlenecks. Federalised EU is a bad idea.

[@raghunomics]

The Multi-tiered Model sounds excellent for it allows a swap-out, swap-in for each country to choose between for an on-going basis.

[@TheGaztela]

Spanexit

[@ziaddakroub]

Finally someone mentions the Swiss model!

[@EUMadeSimple]

I am still planning to do a video on it as an example for the EU. Wish I had more time

[@ziaddakroub]

@@EUMadeSimple If you need any help, I’m a CoE student that spent a significant time (and was politically active) in Switzerland + I know some swiss constitutional law (not a specialist or anything) so I’m fairly familiar with both systems. Hit me up if you need any advice, recommendations, have questions:)

[@jf922]

Only United will Europe matter on the international stage This needs to happen if Europeans have any chance to survive the shifting of the times

[@tolic14ever]

I'm interested in it becoming a reality..😄 Thanks for the good content.❤

[@des_moines840]

Won't happen

[@tolic14ever]

@@des_moines840 I'll be optimistic still.

[@des_moines840]

@@tolic14ever my country, italy, will oppose for sure. You have to do it without us

[@chrislambert9435]

A federal EU is not for the UK, thats why we left

[@wussrestbrook1200]

What’s the point to be poorer but sovereign in your majority foreign capital lol

[@chrislambert9435]

@@wussrestbrook1200 Although we are not poorer, because its not come to that, it would be preferable because then we'd not be "asset stripped" like Greece was

[@wussrestbrook1200]

@@chrislambert9435 Ive seen enough statistics and real life videos to know you Brits are going through it

[@GJWielinga]

Yes, the Swiss model!!!!

[@igorgorczynski6339]

Im from Poland and I think that Federal EU is only option for europe to be a "player" in a great game betwen world powers. But it will be really hard to organise.

[@RatDerPrimaten]

The Russian - belarusian unitary state treaty renders it a full confederal state. They have the clause of parity in this treaty. But it doesn't work out too well, since they tried to annex each other based on the treaty for almost 30 years now

[@mikicerise6250]

Pffft. Belarus is just a Russian vassal state.

[@koljarzg]

The times are exciting. We are witnessing and even participating in an attempt to forge a European federal state. Please make more videos, this is the most interesting subject of utmost importance for our future.

[@EUMadeSimple]

thanks. And I will :)

[@bestcriticintheworld8703]

Yes with mass migration, woke culture, hatred of their nations own histories, surrender to Brussels and Brussels alone, and no independent mind. Yeah screw Federal Europe.

[@dand7763]

it's like a new empire , but empires...don't last too much...(learn from history)

[@mokinsen]

4:55 The EU is not held hostage. Any country should decide themselves what policies they want. If a country does not want to import Russian gas, that's fine. If another country does want to import Russian gas, that is also fine, they can do it independantly.

[@soakingeggs]

lets goooooO!!!!

[@mothermovementa]

I would literally never live in a German federal state.

[@fiju1543]

germany is a federal state . „bundesrepubliK“!😊

[@davidevans916]

Don’t move to Germany then 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@axmat3436]

Deutsche Demokratische Republik is a lot better

[@inno2349]

Damn excluding my boy Portugal from the federal model, you doing me dirty like this

[@EUMadeSimple]

Sorry Inno. It was just an example haha. Happy to have Portugal in the federal model though

[@insertname8451]

I had the same reaction lol but just reminded myself it was an example! Assuming you're Portuguese, like me, do you think our people would vote in favor of being a part of a Federal Europe if there was a referendum? Sadly, I think they wouldn't :(

[@mikicerise6250]

@@insertname8451 Portugal would vote to join the United Kingdom. 😂

[@insertname8451]

@@mikicerise6250 only if they provide military assistance to take Olivença back from the Spaniards 😂

[@m.o.c.p.5250]

@@insertname8451 Portugal would definitely vote in.

[@Akitlosz]

We survived the Holy Roman Empire. We survived the Byzantine Empire. We survived the Ottoman Empire. We survived the Habsburg Empire. We survived the Soviet Union. We will also survive the European Union

[@masonridgewell8063]

😂😂

[@royking7298]

The three tiered EU looks like a good idea. Can we hear more about that please?

[@arvidgreat]

NO, Sweden is independent and SHOULD never have its affairs decided by french and germans. Lets be honest here, This is France and germany's master plan for a european empire. BOTH of them should leave sweden alone. I hate this idea.

[@piplupempoleon4225]

napoleon and bismarck laughing somewherein another dimension

[@andreas543]

@@piplupempoleon4225 😂

[@e.t.theextraterristrial837]

And what would be the unifying language and culture I wonder? The EU is more likely to disintegrate rather than coalesce into a country.

[@colinpapendick5628]

Blown away to find out a country as small as Switzerland has a federal system. Gonna have to learn more about that now.

[@zapmayor4867]

Best scenario, each country remains independent 👍

[@rockyhd5gangxd784]

Yes agreed

[@rockyhd5gangxd784]

Best scenario each country independent 🤓

[@microfarming8583]

I think the best future for Europe is for less EU integration.

[@mattia8327]

Then u should do some research

[@aleph8888]

Centralisation isn’t good.

[@microfarming8583]

@mattia8327 OK please cite some relevant sources to support your claim. Thank you in advance

[@PaulFromCHGO]

In the US, the taxes are even more localized depending where you are. Besides federal and state taxes, some states also have a county income tax and other states have a city income tax. Some states don't have a state income tax at all but make up for that with higher fees, for example, driver's license and license plate renewals.

[@RawLu.]

Americanization 24/7/365...

[@blackeagle7947]

If the people of Europe wanted it, there’s no reason it couldn’t happen. The biggest sticking point is that a political unification of the nation-states of the EU would only occur on the same terms that the currency union (the Euro) did. In short, the union would be predicated on whatever terms that Germany wanted. And just as EU fiscal policy today is handed down from Berlin (just ask the Greeks), the political policies of a United States of Europe would also emanate from Berlin. Because the Germans would never agree to anything less. It wouldn’t be a United States of Europe so much as it would be a Greater European Reich. Granted, it would be a much more pleasant Greater European Reich than the one the Hohenzollerns or the Nazis would have imposed in the 20th century, but it would still be what it was. A true USE would have to be established using principles like we did in our Constitution, based on federalism as the first objective, rather than democracy. And these are the same principles (things like the Electoral College and how our Congress is structured) that Europeans criticize the USA for. They would understand them in a hurry if they had to be one country. The USA would have morphed into Greater New York without federalism, and a USE without it would be a Greater Germany. But good luck getting the Germans to agree to anything else.

[@pep-qew1977]

Finally someone who can see basic things. European federation is german agenda.

[@deusdat]

The United States of Europe is an idea originally put forward in 1917 by then People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs comrade Trotsky. What a joy to see it so cherished nowadays!

[@pep-qew1977]

First USE idea was in mid XIX c. by some french and polish guys independently and not by bloody communist

[@brampelberg9335]

I think the idea of european citizins being able to vote on proposals directly is very interesting. How it is now, I don't even know who represents me and what they vote on.

[@Sailing_Away]

Very good idea with 3 tiers EU.. let’s go do this before it’s to late ⏰

[@dark0rock]

Guy from Portugal here. If it were a democracy similar to the one used in Switzerland, I think it could be an interesting solution, but of course it all depends on how it's done. I like the idea of different layers of integration but even with idk if I would feel confortable with the entry of Turkey into the EU. Not only is the country too big and going through a crazy crysis but also I feel there might be a culture shock.