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The Trogly's Guitar Show

The Trogly's Guitar Show

Күн бұрын

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@Trog
@Trog 2 жыл бұрын
It was fun checking out this “mystery” guitar. I’m happy that it turned out to be a “best case scenario” for the consignee! www.troglysguitarshow.com www.reverb.com/item/47023980?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly
@rocknrollguitar
@rocknrollguitar 2 жыл бұрын
Ik freakin love it, ik also very very curious about the 295, as a big Scotty Moore fan.... Can you please document that one as Well??
@TooBarFoo
@TooBarFoo 2 жыл бұрын
It's not on your shop. did this sell already?
@FDNY8231
@FDNY8231 2 жыл бұрын
@@TooBarFoo Yep sold already ... Click the reverb link in his comment and you'll see
@bustercampfiresongs
@bustercampfiresongs 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of amp did you play through?
@flippercarlin1657
@flippercarlin1657 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy Doug Aldrich picked up a '68 Gold Top w/P-90s last year and as many GT's he owns, he's fell in love with. Still wish Henry didn't pull the Doug Aldrich Black Hornet model project. Talking to Doug's wife about that, yep my thoughts are true, Henry Jerk-No Wits was a jerk about the project like he was with Neal Schon
@xanderraymondcharles
@xanderraymondcharles 2 жыл бұрын
my favorite guitar channel
@clayramus703
@clayramus703 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@Dgendreau
@Dgendreau 2 жыл бұрын
Literally like a college course on Gibson guitars that just never ends. Semester after semester we get videos that only get better and much more informative. Can't agree more, my fave channel to.... I actually used his internet service recently to confirm a 1964 Gibson SG Special was what I thought it was. Austin was correct and it was completely original. Austin suggested listing it for $4800 and to expect top sell it for $4000... It sold in 10 minutes for $4700...
@Daddy53751
@Daddy53751 2 жыл бұрын
I for one would be suspect of a vintage guitar case that DIDN’T smell like smoke! That smoke tells stories of clubs and gigs and life.
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 2 жыл бұрын
I can see the truth in that. It could also be some form of decoy.
@thenameless3271
@thenameless3271 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it could've stayed at home, but even then, avoiding smoke in the 50s-80s sounds impossible.
@Daddy53751
@Daddy53751 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericbgordon1575 for a guitar that worked over, that thing has been over the mountain in one way or another.
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 2 жыл бұрын
That's true enough, @@Daddy53751. I think my décoy comment might have been meant in jest.
@Daddy53751
@Daddy53751 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericbgordon1575 😹 you wrote “decoy”
@polishmasterjay
@polishmasterjay Жыл бұрын
Whenever I’m too fed up with the “real world” or people, bad weather, bad fake news, climate manipulation, warfare, widespread crime…I come here and just remember what’s really important…GUITARS!!!🙌🏽👏🎶❤
@wadeguidry6675
@wadeguidry6675 2 жыл бұрын
You are becoming quite the Gibson detective Trogly!
@terryrobertson111
@terryrobertson111 2 жыл бұрын
He's a fraud
@KCBeck
@KCBeck 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 not sure why your saying that, I been watching him for a few years and his knowledge and advice is improving, As far as the guitar I personally don’t care if it’s a true collector, I play the F*** out of guitars, I’d prefer one I’m not afraid to breath on.
@parkerdavidson5868
@parkerdavidson5868 Жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 he's not the number one expert, and I don't think he's claiming to be, but he's definitely a reliable source if you know how to research other than listening to just him.
@Daddy53751
@Daddy53751 2 жыл бұрын
Trog, Not to put any pressure on you, If you don’t lay hands on the Violin Tele, The enemy wins.
@waynepayne864
@waynepayne864 2 жыл бұрын
the strad telecaster, the stradocaster if you will
@chrispuckett8855
@chrispuckett8855 2 жыл бұрын
Can't tell you how much I enjoy the forensics of documenting an unknown guitar!
@Nothing-gv8mv
@Nothing-gv8mv 2 жыл бұрын
I buy black Dollar Store flip flops to cut up for foam under my P90s. A little double-sided tape and good to go 👍
@daysend1341
@daysend1341 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea I bet that foam last for ever. I'm going to definitely use this idea on my new build I'm starting next weekend.
@donmilland7606
@donmilland7606 Жыл бұрын
or an old mousepad
@gregoryzischke1843
@gregoryzischke1843 Жыл бұрын
Dude dont do it in about 24 months that black fake rubber will turn to dust!! And it happens fast! China is incredible at making crap last just long enough! Don't thke my word for it , ask anybody who has done the same kind of stuff you just did. You think you have found a super cheap method for something and it will bite you in the butt, your guitar deserves better!!!
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Austin The Seymour Duncan Antiquities are solid pickups no matter what style. For a player instrument it looks and sounds pretty great. Gotta love a Gold Top and P90s.
@jubei7259
@jubei7259 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you brother. A Goldie with P90's, what's not to love? All the best from (not so) sunny Blighty.
@ricmel8008
@ricmel8008 2 жыл бұрын
I went to purchase the guitar. And it's already been sold in less than an hour.
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was quick. This guitar would have been a great purchase, who would have thought it would sell so quickly!
@pulaski1
@pulaski1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised, it sounded _awesome,_ especially with distortion.
@sethgross3904
@sethgross3904 2 жыл бұрын
@@pulaski1 unlikely. his distorted demos always sound like shrill garbage.
@pulaski1
@pulaski1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sethgross3904 Maybe it's your speakers/ equipment, .... or maybe you just don't like distortion, and that's OK, because Les Paul himself would have agreed with you, without a doubt.
@sethgross3904
@sethgross3904 2 жыл бұрын
@@pulaski1 must be a preference thing. I can’t even think of what those tones are similar to. I’m guessing user error.
@8wheeledassassins.
@8wheeledassassins. 2 жыл бұрын
The gold paint was inside the holes that were drilled later for the P90s, so it has to be refinished
@HenritheHorse
@HenritheHorse 2 жыл бұрын
And the colour looks off.
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@HenritheHorse I agree the color does look off, however through the years each guitar's finish will age differently depending on how much sunlight it had been in as well as environmental conditions. My personal favorite are the older Goldtops that have aged and taken on a gold/caramel color.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 2 жыл бұрын
@@hkguitar1984 sunlight, and cigarette smoke, that can yellow the clear coat pretty significantly.
@michaelnugent9758
@michaelnugent9758 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@HenritheHorse
@HenritheHorse 2 жыл бұрын
@@hkguitar1984 I like the greenish goldtops!
@9372duffy
@9372duffy 2 жыл бұрын
Great job sir, very interesting video. Mysteries are always fun!
@NINEWALKING
@NINEWALKING 2 жыл бұрын
That is not 50's wiring. Cap starts from the pickup leg on the pot hence not 50's wiring.
@Greg-vd5om
@Greg-vd5om 2 жыл бұрын
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
@LoneWolf-ni1zj
@LoneWolf-ni1zj 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.f.875 And yet... here you are! Hahahahahhaha
@johnm3152
@johnm3152 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Detective Trogly !
@garyk4417
@garyk4417 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think it's a '69. I have a '69 LP GoldTop. It originally had P90's and was swapped out for '63 humbuckers (I knew the original owner before he had the work done). It isn't a sandwich (pancake body) guitar and has no volute. This is likely early '70, but it's hard to tell during transition years.
@photopicker
@photopicker 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Pancakes didn't come in until the 70's. I bought one in '75. All the 68 and 69's I have ever seen were not pancake.
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 2 жыл бұрын
What a disaster headstock repair!
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen much worse that still surprisingly don't affect the guitar's tuning stability. One of my friends has a 1980s Tokai Les Paul with a headstock break that looks like it was repaired by a couple of Kindergartners! Shockingly the guitar plays and sound fantastic, as such the ugly repair has remained unchanged since the 1990s for fear that messing with it or trying to fix it better may somehow effect or degrade the guitar's great playing and sounding condition.
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 2 жыл бұрын
@@hkguitar1984 I’m sure it still plays fine, but it looks absolutely terrible. If it were mine, I would have that repair repaired.
@brianhittepole259
@brianhittepole259 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to judge a repair without seeing the mess you had to repair.
@brothermike2506
@brothermike2506 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing the purchase of a Fender cant fix 😂 modified refin with wrong gold and a broken head
@tussk.
@tussk. 2 жыл бұрын
so its a 1969 les paul. apart from the pickups, tuners, plastics, electrics, hardware and paintjob.
@misery13666
@misery13666 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like somebody wanted their dads old guitar "refreshed" and some shop took em for a ride. put new gear in, then sold the vintage stuff afterwards.
@realmongo7565
@realmongo7565 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if after the head stock was broken, the guitar was stripped to a husk at that point.
@Heivang
@Heivang 2 жыл бұрын
Can you take a look at the Larry Carlton Sire guitars? Are they worth the money? Been looking at their Les Paul copy.
@eduardo0796
@eduardo0796 2 жыл бұрын
Funny he "wouldn't care" about this guitar's headstock repair when I've seen him backing off from better looking headstock repairs than this guitar when guitar hunting.
@Masterfighterx
@Masterfighterx 2 жыл бұрын
Were those guitars he backed off of collector pieces or players guitars?
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
More than likely he has a different set of criteria as a purchase to resell would be very different from buying a person instrument as a player. He must be doing something right because his entire income s from buying and selling guitars with his KZbin gig to enhance his instruments visibility. I've always enjoyed guitars and have been buying and working on them since 1974, even with all the knowledge I've gained through all these years I could never make a living brokering them as I reliably buy high and sell low........
@MikeE-
@MikeE- 2 жыл бұрын
Today’s the first time that I’ve used earbuds to watch your show and I never knew you had X-Files type music playing in the background during your “black light” segment 😂
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 2 жыл бұрын
4:37 everything from that era, from guitars and garages to chairs and children had a slight cigarette smell to them. They were good for your health.
@kingbrutusxxvi
@kingbrutusxxvi 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty ignorant about vintage guitars but I can tell everything about my Gibsons (the oldest is a '93) just from the serial numbers. It even tells me the week it was finished and where. I'm guessing that wasn't the case back in the '70s?
@Trog
@Trog 2 жыл бұрын
1977 was the first year of the serial number that makes the most sense and is still used today
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 2 жыл бұрын
As an example of how confusing vintage and older Gibson serial numbers can be, Trogly has a 1977 LP Deluxe for sale that has an 8 digit serial number. Right now I'm holding in my hand my original warranty card from my old 1977 LP Deluxe, the example I owned only had a 6 digit serial number! Even the modern Custom Shop Les Paul R9 Re-Issues can be confusing as the serial number does not specify which Decade they were built! That is when era specific build specifications and potentiometer mfg. dates become seriously important.
@blacktoothfox677
@blacktoothfox677 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there was literally an R8 on Norms channel they couldn't tell was a 2003 or 2013
@NoneNone-gk9wt
@NoneNone-gk9wt 2 жыл бұрын
Ilooks like the neck binding dont complete the fret end . I think it's a chibson
@stevecooper3487
@stevecooper3487 2 жыл бұрын
You're becoming quite the guitar slinger as well as having a great KZbin channel! Something tells me those are screws in the headstock covered with crazy glue and baking soda.
@Albee213
@Albee213 2 жыл бұрын
If the headstock ain't broken, it ain't a real Gibson!
@DaedStarr
@DaedStarr 9 ай бұрын
I'm honestly surprised anyone would pay over a few hundred bucks for a guitar in that condition. Like I would think that would destroy all value. All replaced parts, refinish, cracks, headstock repair, gouges, resin...like I really don't understand why anyone would want to buy that.
@guitartec
@guitartec 2 жыл бұрын
I got news for ya... That's exactly how you string a guitar back then AND today!
@ms1535
@ms1535 2 жыл бұрын
Sad that many Bumblebee’s are fake. I knew one guy that only sold online but would let me walk the aisles of parts picking out what I wanted. However, I saw on his workbench that he was putting Bumblebee stickers over Russian PIO’s. Never bought from him again.
@dorianmode69
@dorianmode69 Жыл бұрын
Trogly add some Neil Young riffs sometime
@aquilarossa5191
@aquilarossa5191 2 жыл бұрын
Slight gap? Wow. It looks like a earthquake damage to a road. Salesperson instincts got the better of you it seems.
@analogblues9606
@analogblues9606 2 жыл бұрын
I have a late 69 goldtop. I would have to say that I think the decal on yours was replaced. 69 LP are known to not have a dotted “i” in the Gibson logo. Also 69’s came with black knobs.
@terryrobertson111
@terryrobertson111 2 жыл бұрын
you're right. that's because it's a 74 not a 69.
@analogblues9606
@analogblues9606 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 ahhh, that explains it. Did you mention that in the video? How much did it sell for?
@terryrobertson111
@terryrobertson111 2 жыл бұрын
@@analogblues9606 I've posted twice on his page stating several facts as to why it's a '74 and not a '69 but he keeps deleting my posts,.
@analogblues9606
@analogblues9606 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 Wow! Sorry to hear. Btw, love your show!
@analogblues9606
@analogblues9606 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 Wow! Sorry to hear that. Btw, love your show. I’ve started my own channel and wondering if you’d give advice from time to time if I need help?
@hectormutton2542
@hectormutton2542 2 жыл бұрын
✌️
@crswro1690
@crswro1690 2 жыл бұрын
a les paul with a broken headstock? color me shocked...
@MikeE-
@MikeE- 2 жыл бұрын
It has P90s so I wanna like it but that thing is beat and everything is replaced with cheap parts; except the P90s which I’m sad to say sounded bad. Hope it’s not listed for anything higher than “fair” condition on your site.
@alwaysopen7970
@alwaysopen7970 2 жыл бұрын
My mid 70s Deluxe is beat to hell due to actually using it for years. I acquired it in the early 80s and don't care about the finish or value of it. It has a big fat 50s neck carve and a previous owner routed out the bridge pup for a full sized humbucker; a common practice of that era. I installed Dunlop straplocks on mine to prevent a broken headstock. Define "overspray". You tossed the word around so much it made no sense. Flat case would make me run away; you can get a nice SKB or Gator on Amazon for cheap to make it look real.
@denboe2894
@denboe2894 2 жыл бұрын
I will never trust "any" older guitars sold by dudes. Dudes have been around buying/selling those remakes, and ripoffs since the 70's-80's. Thanks for disclosing all.
@ernieflanaganstingraybassm1463
@ernieflanaganstingraybassm1463 Жыл бұрын
it might be a chibson so beware trog !!!
@timothycormier3494
@timothycormier3494 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a good looking guitar. But I don’t understand how an obvious husk rebuild with a broken neck. There is no way that anything on that guitar is original. Is still worth anything over two grand? Yes, the husk is a “69”. But it’s got a broken neck! I’d have to send it up to canaderp 🇨🇦. To have Todd woodford put a couple splines in the neck and do a total once over on it! Then, it still ain’t got not one original part on it! I’m sorry and not trying to hurt any feelings! But it even sounds like a 12-$1500 dollar guitar. I’ll give ya an A+ on the sales pitch trogley. But to ask upwards of four grand for a broken les Paul is just begging for a lawsuit! Sorry! Just one guy’s opinion
@pulaski1
@pulaski1 2 жыл бұрын
Two years ago, I'd have agreed with you, but things have gone crazy since early 2020, including for husks over 50 years old. When nice collectors ones are going for over $20k, there aren't many player grade ones from the late 60's out there that are still _actually_ playable, so supply and demand drives the price up. Would I pay around $4k for a refinished husk with neck damage and all parts replaced? No, but that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't.
@jubei7259
@jubei7259 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it sold in less than an hour so.... lol
@procrastinator6902
@procrastinator6902 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know, what exactly would the basis for said lawsuit be? As another commenter has already pointed out, someone thought it was worth $4K and didn't have to spend much time thinking on it, since the guitar sold in less than an hour of being posted.
@timothycormier3494
@timothycormier3494 2 жыл бұрын
@@procrastinator6902 would ya? Would ya like to know? The lawsuit is a fuckin joke! Bottom line! It’s still an old piece of shit with a broken neck! For four grand?? Congratulations to whoever bought it. I’m sure that your new broken neck guitar will make you a better player
@valve84
@valve84 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothycormier3494 The new owner is going to be pissed if he tries to resell it later.
@jubei7259
@jubei7259 2 жыл бұрын
Now that... that is my kinda LP. 69 is my birth year. I've got a Strat from '69 but always wanted a Gibson from that year too. I love me a Goldie, plus the P90 pups make it a win-win. I can always hear the difference when someone who's used to playing humbuckers switches to P90's. The little blighters are much more responsive to your pick attack & also revealing your mistakes lol.
@RiotBadger
@RiotBadger 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure this is a ‘69 Trog. The dot above the i on the headstock logo would place it post ‘72
@michaelnugent9758
@michaelnugent9758 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful guitar. I honestly loved this video, Trogly! I hope you make this into a series. Super interesting stuff. If I had the $, that Goldtop would be mine! I wish I never sold my P90 Goldtop…
@mburtondavis
@mburtondavis 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know Gibson made a square Les Paul case
@CarDocCornwall
@CarDocCornwall 2 жыл бұрын
I have a '69 Goldtop with P90s and mine and most others I've seen have the dot over the 'i' in Gibson missing. I think the Deluxes restored the dot?
@sirbaronvoncount4147
@sirbaronvoncount4147 2 жыл бұрын
It certainly has all the changes a player would make. I would love to own this it’s beautiful and less than a modern day custom shop. I’d take vintage any day. Antiquities can be superior to actual Gibson pickups too although it’s verboten to say that. Duncan P90s are my favourite pickups of all time.
@ernieb3626
@ernieb3626 2 жыл бұрын
im not finding it on the website? I was really hoping it was a 1970 because my birthdate is jan 4th of 70 . Great show as always Austin. God Bless
@rbarker1706
@rbarker1706 2 жыл бұрын
$3,200 would be a top evaluation, I might add. With a guitar that has virtually all new parts, I would recommend selling the case separately to someone who owns a stock LP, and using a later case for this rebuilt player-grade guitar.
@terryrobertson111
@terryrobertson111 2 жыл бұрын
This guitar is a 74 not a 69. I posted twice about it and Fraudly keeps deleting the post.
@juissi954
@juissi954 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 how do you know?
@revgregory
@revgregory 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 Nope, that's a 69. Open tops on the "b" and "o" in the logo, no volute, and no "Made in USA" stamp which are 69 specs and the transitional neck tenon was never used past the late 60s.
@terryrobertson111
@terryrobertson111 2 жыл бұрын
@@revgregory No dot in the "i" on the Gibson logo says it's not a '69. Also, headstock veneer has been replaced it seems. Looks like it was replaced by a cheap chinese replacement veneer. no MOP glow to it at all. Probably done when the guitar was refinished. As for the Made in the USA stamp, I've seen a few Gibsons from the 70's that left the factory without it. Gibson quality control it seems. My '74 Deluxe barely has the Made in USA impressed into the headstock, it's so faint. Also, my '74 barely has a volute. Almost non-existant. Again, Gibson consistency and quality control. Only way to tell for sure is to measure the headstock width. Late 60's headstocks were still kind of narrow. Early 70's were a little wider and by the late 70's they were huge.
@ChuckNicholsonTRM
@ChuckNicholsonTRM 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryrobertson111 100% '73-'75 and definitely a complete refinish. I agree that the headstock overlay looks replaced also. 891xxx serial number of this guitar dates it pretty definitively outside of 1969 also and puts it in the early-mid 70s.
@zylavormusic2616
@zylavormusic2616 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine receiving a free vintage Gibson!
@IsabellaCatherine19XX
@IsabellaCatherine19XX 2 жыл бұрын
27:32 "It blends well with the middle pickup too." What? You meant the middle position?
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 2 жыл бұрын
Great and fun video to watch before I head off into work this morning, thanks Trogly! Having an older vintage guitar like this it's like having an old vintage classic car from around the same era. It's going to be hard to find it with its original paint but this looks like a pretty nice refinish. Still a great-looking guitar and sounds nice. It was coo and interesting watching you decipher everything and showing the clues for what types of pickups and the neck joint and headstock repair Etc well done!
@bvm60
@bvm60 2 жыл бұрын
i m sorry that guitar is not worth that kind of money. when the only thing original is the body and neck. i would rather buy a gibson custom shop for that price.
@LoneWolf-ni1zj
@LoneWolf-ni1zj 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently it was... because it sold quickly! Whatever you have to sell, is worth... as much as someone is willing to pay... not necessarily, you. lol
@lobsterwhisperer7932
@lobsterwhisperer7932 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolf-ni1zj a fool and his money is easily parted.
@MickH60
@MickH60 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a shitty neck joint, gaps galore...
@chrishill264
@chrishill264 2 жыл бұрын
I thought 69 lp Gibson logo didn't have the dot above the i?
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 2 жыл бұрын
Just had one of my goofy brainwaves. Trogly, could you potentially do a review of 2 guitars together, one being a run-of-the-mill 70s Telecaster and a standard Les Paul or SG of the same era? The coolest thing would be if you could examine both and draw any parallels between CBS (Fender) and Norlin (Gibson), as far as shortcomings of that timeframe when each company was owned by the respective conglamorate. Various details from different retrospectives have convinced me there are similarities.
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, @Eddie Yarrow Eisman!
@Dreams_Of_Lavender
@Dreams_Of_Lavender 2 жыл бұрын
I love how when you get a greenish yellow gold top against the green screen it becomes a coppertop. Which is also a good look 👀
@robertclarkguitar
@robertclarkguitar 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I'll remember these pups when I get my first LP style goldtop. It will not be a Gibson. I'm not huge into them as I am tooooo poor. Hahah. But I've heard and seen some extremely convincing epiphones and LTDs thankfully. Sounds good man. You have been playing a bit lately. Hahah.
@valve84
@valve84 2 жыл бұрын
Dotted i in Gibson is not a 69. Logo and neck joint look non-Gibson. Is it a fake? Have it checked by a Norlin experienced collector maybe?
@fredmerrill4002
@fredmerrill4002 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the logo looked like a repro too, it doesn't look like mother-of-pearl. Also, did the 69-era LPs have the high-silkscreened gold script and that "Les Paul" engraved truss rod cover?
@davidtiekstra1731
@davidtiekstra1731 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredmerrill4002 He says right in the video that the trussrod cover is a modern replacement.... he even showed the packaging with the original black two ply cover.
@davidtiekstra1731
@davidtiekstra1731 2 жыл бұрын
The dotted i in Gibson and the high Les Paul Model silk screen are both normal for a late 69 deluxe. Plus Trogly is an experienced Norlin era collector.
@fredmerrill4002
@fredmerrill4002 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, sorry I must've missed when he said that. I didn't think it was a fake overall, just possibly a replacement logo veneer. I actually like this one a lot, the gold looks much nicer than the one on my 70s Tribute, even if the hue isn't exactly right.
@valve84
@valve84 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidtiekstra1731 The high silk screen is expected on a 69 along with no dot on the i which sometimes shows up into early 1970. I've been watching Austins' channel for the past decade and he does fine videos while learning on the job.
@somebodysomeone832
@somebodysomeone832 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe that people don’t like the bigger headstocks. I get that they’re not traditional, but they’re so damn cool. I like the big 70s headstocks on fenders too though.
@sideshow1297
@sideshow1297 10 ай бұрын
Large headstock with a volute - all day long!
@pdbordelon
@pdbordelon 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Trogly! That guitar sounds great! Please review a Schecter USA PT - they are so good they will make you re-think Gibson and Fender!
@griffinsalerno
@griffinsalerno 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 i’m kind of a nut when it comes to the headstocks of Gibson’s because it’s my favorite when the headstock is perfectly sharp and proportional at the top and a lot of Gibsons have it and a lot don’t. My father has a 1990s SG that has the same thing. This Les Paul in this video is a perfect example of a nice headstock in my opinion.
@jacobsfuntime7358
@jacobsfuntime7358 2 жыл бұрын
Would of come with Gibson deluxe tuners not kluson deluxe
@ivandiwakara7766
@ivandiwakara7766 2 жыл бұрын
In KZbin, it doesnt look like a goldtop, more like copper-ish color
@donhill3rd
@donhill3rd 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in that era, we as players using these guitars as tools had to remove a lot of the stock components because the replacements were so much better. Or so we thought.....
@elmolewis9123
@elmolewis9123 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased new, a 1968 LP Deluxe direct from the factory, thinking it would come with P90's but instead, it came with full-size humbuckers with black rings. Unfortunately, I sold it a few years later to buy an LP Custom (fretless wonder). Unfortunately, a few years later, I sold .... And it never ended. 😀
@mason4490
@mason4490 2 жыл бұрын
I have an actual 68 gold top standard- I bought it in' 70 from a local player. He'd broken and rplaced the jack plate (non- Gibson). The orginal bridge bowed about 6 years later and I made the mistake of replacing it with a Stars bridge but that has held up. Also, the case- rectangular box with gold/yellow velour lining, lost it's orinal handle, and the clasps have worn and only one works. The later, more contoured cases made much better sense.
@hammersandchords2897
@hammersandchords2897 Жыл бұрын
So it is a husk with all brand new (and cheap) parts with a headstock repair. Yet you still think it is worth $4000? Interesting.
@Trog
@Trog Жыл бұрын
sold very quick too
@MickH60
@MickH60 Жыл бұрын
What makes you think the parts are cheap ? Some of the best Gibson replacement parts come out of Japan...
@ericcarpenter2454
@ericcarpenter2454 Жыл бұрын
Once you go Grover you get rings all over
@dbvetter7485
@dbvetter7485 2 жыл бұрын
Nice detective work!
@eddiejr540
@eddiejr540 2 жыл бұрын
These “detective” vids are my favorite!!!!
@sixfivegasser
@sixfivegasser 2 жыл бұрын
What's the riff starting at 30:49?
@comedyandgardeninginflorid2562
@comedyandgardeninginflorid2562 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t have a problem with owning that guitar.
@bluesdawg8014
@bluesdawg8014 7 ай бұрын
I have a 1969 dark back gold top with original humbuckers, no pancake body small headstock. All original, I've never seen another like mine.
@rustymacneil3227
@rustymacneil3227 2 жыл бұрын
Our guitar player had a '69 GoldTop ,had P90's in it. Ended up in a pawnshop!!
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the late 60’s LP’s were solid body? Thought the pancake era started in the 70’s? And I thought the late 60’s hat the dotless “i” logo? I’m by no stretch a pro on vintage Les Pauls. My oldest LP is like 20 years old. But from what little I know, this looks like an early to mid 70’s LP. I could be totally wrong. Not trying to stir controversy. But the dot over the “i” I thought was definitive? Thanks
@Maverick_66nl
@Maverick_66nl Жыл бұрын
Nice but unfortunately John Norum left to play with dokken in 1986. The great unknown guitarist to fill in was Kee Marcello who played the live tours and recorded 2 albums (out of this world and prisoners in paradise) till Europe took a break in 1992.
@vincentrandles8105
@vincentrandles8105 Жыл бұрын
I would much rather have the mini humbuckers anyway, I HATE P-90's! Yep, it has that shatty sound like P90's....
@historiclp4577
@historiclp4577 Жыл бұрын
Even the wiring was not original…jeez , the. The toggle switch…the plastics..whoever paid over $1500 ..Tops…Tops…well as long as there happy
@scottlarue5432
@scottlarue5432 Жыл бұрын
The majority of Pink Floyd's (David Gilmore') guitars were strung with GHS Boomers, once you use them, everything else sounds like a tin can.
@doctoribanez
@doctoribanez 2 жыл бұрын
You are kinda a terrible sales man with your honesty lol but nobody can say they didn't know about a scratch
@Trog
@Trog 2 жыл бұрын
My honesty sells and makes happy buyers!
@mateovicuna7640
@mateovicuna7640 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trog agree, there's nothing worst than getting a "full of surprises" guitar that you just bought. Cheers from Chile Trog!
@ReeWebster
@ReeWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Depends what you call terrible, lots of foot traffic and no need for referrals or return customers then yeh maybe. Otherwise nah. In a day an age when the other side of the world can find out about ur sales techniques in near real time, the quick pitch and rip ain’t really the best idea for most anymore.
@LoneWolf-ni1zj
@LoneWolf-ni1zj 2 жыл бұрын
He's an HONEST Salesman in an age of Scam Artists... I welcome and applaud his approach!
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
I like the sound balance between the pickups and the quality of wiring. That is a working man’s guitar and you can make a lot of good music. I wish I had it, I have looked for a guitar like that. It is real and has” haints” in it The spirit of the Gibson from the greats who played them. Towards the end of your playing demo I got chill bumps.
@agcacustoms2852
@agcacustoms2852 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah a new video, and a vintage Les Paul my favorite
@TractorMonkeywithJL
@TractorMonkeywithJL 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe after the head stock broke all the parts were taken off and sold, reused else where or lost. Then somebody got the husk and had it repaired and rebuilt.
@phantomlord323
@phantomlord323 2 жыл бұрын
Volute didnt start till 70
@buckhinschwey
@buckhinschwey 2 жыл бұрын
More of these please! It’s great to see what one can do with a vintage husk and a lot of time
@edfromchicago
@edfromchicago 2 жыл бұрын
It’s is a early 1970! Pancake and no “Made in USA”. Early 1970 was the only time you would see that. No pancake in 69
@timothyfrost3234
@timothyfrost3234 Жыл бұрын
So I see you review all these right guitars, I was wondering if you would ever look for a bad ass lefty for someone.. I watch your show all the time. I'm struggling to find something super cool and lefty ..I'm not the stepchild!
@davidcrawford6505
@davidcrawford6505 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but you seem inconsistent in your analysis of the paint. You say there's this, but it coyld be that. So in the end you don't know for sure. I wouldn't accept your appraisal for that reason. Seems so subjective. Otherwise, I do enjoy your videos.
@brians1793
@brians1793 Жыл бұрын
23:19 My guess is it runs through the broken piece and the rest of the headstock, probably because they had a hard time creating tension with a vice without it slipping so it helped prevent that and reinforce the repair. Not speaking from experience just a guess.
@jeffpowers1979
@jeffpowers1979 6 ай бұрын
In the first two seconds you flipped to quickly but is appeared to be a 2 piece body. which indicates a 1980's
@duncan-rmi
@duncan-rmi 2 жыл бұрын
as trogly opens the case, me: " '72, refin with after-market P90s." ok, un-pause & let's see.
@dbspecials1200
@dbspecials1200 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't we see something like this go through a tornado? I think once guitars like these are created it takes on a life of it's own, and it's difficult for it not to stick around and be a successful instrument for decades to come. look what some of them go through, and look what they can still do.
@davidsellers3639
@davidsellers3639 11 ай бұрын
Like people
@mkivy
@mkivy 2 жыл бұрын
Ewwww no soap-bar pick-ups. Seymour Duncan’s, or Dimerzio super-distortion.
@charlesfick729
@charlesfick729 Жыл бұрын
What about the frets? RE fretted? I saw newer Gibson Les Pauls where the binding didn’t cover the end of the frets. Is this normal for that year??
@jeffpowers1979
@jeffpowers1979 Жыл бұрын
I'm writing this from 18 mins. on in the video. I didn't think they made the two piece body in the 1960's early 70's
@scardera
@scardera Жыл бұрын
Slight smokey sent to the case... ofc it would everyone was smoking back in the 60's xD
@monmixer
@monmixer 2 жыл бұрын
That's a tried and true repair there to put that dowel pin there. Who ever worked on that guitar knew what they were doing. Of course it drops the value but it's in no way of a don't buy.
@LekkerDops
@LekkerDops 2 жыл бұрын
how many late 60s les.pauls are actually 59 stock for real that was just lying around when they stopped production
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