A Viper Mains Guide to ICEBOX

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Hope you guys enjoy! This video is my longest yet at 40 minutes so hope yall find it helpful and thanks for being patient ♥️

[@mamtamishra4979]

Pls if u can make one for Fracture as well, as you know viper is more viable on that map than Astra ( No offense) .... If u can that'll be really helpful, thank you sir ❤ + peace

[@11josiahf]

You blocked the mini map 🥲

[@yesnoidk]

your explanation on the importance of committing to a fight instead of running away only to die was pretty eye opening. love your vids!

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Thanks for the kind words

[@nik_mik]

if you could make a guide like this for breeze and fracture that'd be a BLESSING, thank you man!! im not too big on astra (i do play her tho when i feel like it) but I main viper on 4/7, omen on haven and split (i like being agro on those maps), and brim on fracture. I would love to learn fracture and breeze more with vipe. also gunna check out more of ur astra content🤞🏽

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Breeze and Fracture guides on the way! (p.s. maybe some omen ones too heh)

[@racheltran8246]

@@FLOWSHIZZLE the mvp fr fr

[@MilaneseMoon]

Omen on haven is so cheeky, I love the random boxes everywhere

[@-alon3inhell792]

You explain stuff so well and clearly every guide you make

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Glad you think so, hope it helped :)

[@__vha]

Underrated content creator for controller players. Thanks for the in depth guide, always found the most difficult part of this map was retaking A as a defender.

[@Gufolicious]

Perfect guide man, i love it. You are by far the best controllercoach ever

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Wow, thanks for the kind words

[@jspeedcuber0253]

I am a full main Astra and havr have 100+ hours with her rn and my lowest win rate maps are Icebox, Fracture and Breeze, now I'm going on my way to be a full controller main with this guide with viper. I'm waiting for the guides for the other maps! Great content bro, keep it up!

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Will do, thanks for the supportive words!

[@Shunpra]

Funny thing is, I followed your tips and used some of ur viper setups on your videos and the same goes to other controller tips, and it actually helped me SO MUCH!! Been fragging out in my elo hell right now, Gold-Diamond lobbies.

[@agnikai4833]

Literally found your channel today, I didn't know about that mid poison cloud in icebox. I watched your video and queued a game afterwards (got matched in icebox) and I got MVP! Thank you so much, Man! You just earned my sub!

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Nice job man! Great work :)) and thanks for the sub!

[@DerGFXer]

great guide dude, thanks so much! best valortant youtuber out there

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Thanks for the kind words, appreciate you watching :D!

[@Feynmahr]

@ 3:20 min . When you walk to the Corner on the right side of the box. aim on the top corner of that box. than jump + right click. it perfectly lands in the middle of the box as close to edge as possible.

[@forjimmymemes5414]

Love it, I was having trouble on ranked icebox. Nice in-depth guide

[@Bighomer5]

20:30 u can clear that corner from the box before you jump up pipes I'm positive. Just move to the right and you'll see it perfectly.

[@ProSkythe]

@3:00 Simply stand of the left side of the box (so you line up with it) and aim at the edge next to the "1" and jump-right click.

[@cassiopeia1997]

wonderful and detailed video! always appreciate the effort

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Thank you very much!

[@gagers78]

For the Orb on B site defense you can hug the container next to plant and line it up with the far wall and you can get it much closer to the edge of the entrance container, although you do risk throwing it off the map.

[@jonpatricknaypes8783]

I play viper a lot in my games especially in the new maps (icebox onwards). And I always pop my orb smoke before planting the spike. I really didn’t thought that it could backfire me! I learn a lot from your astra and viper vids. Keep it up bro!

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Glad I could help! It's a common misconception :D

[@danielc8542]

Great video dude! Not sure if its just me but the gameplay goes a bit blurry while you're moving. If you're using Sony Vegas to edit try right clicking the footage before you cut, go to properties and disable the resample!

[@gumbletron]

Ive been waiting for this. I haven’t watched it yet but I already know its good. The astra guide was god tier. keep up the good work!

[@mhstk6764]

You explained everything in detail. This is very helpful. Pls make vids like this for other maps 🙏🙏

[@josemiguelevangelista9711]

Bruh your videos are so underrated and super helpful! Godbless to you sir keep it up!!!!!

[@chronotian5991]

thanks for this video! really helping me clean up my controller gameplay

[@Chanak98]

i was a viper main before i discovered reyna on icebox but watching this video makes me wanna play her again. thanks for the great video man!

[@rhowan9782]

Yes thank you, love your videos. I needed this!!

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Thanks for watching!

[@evan1461]

this guy is awesome just commenting for the algorithm because his guides are great even though i wont ever play viper or astra

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Appreciate the comment! :)))

[@Rift04]

With the new bind changes could you make a KZbin short on how you would smoke/ defend a site with the new box? Thank you.

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Sure, I'll do a short video on it!

[@demogorgon2424]

First i learnt Astra from you Now I learn viper from you Awesome content as always 😉

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@crafteraguw4835]

I appreciate this guide, your setup on B is very OP

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Glad I could help! :D

[@ValorantAscended]

Actually first! Everyone who commented before me is not first.

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

🤣

[@uzumaki9158]

oh my its valorant ascended, big fan of ur content!

[@KikoBG12]

Damn never expected a viper tutorial out if you. Great man , favourite channel now cuz i main viper and astra :D keep it up !

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Appreciate you watching :D stay tuned!

[@JackDespero]

I usually use my wall for mid, because it covers all the angles that you mentioned AND also both tube to kitchen and window from kitchen. I am understanding that you use the orb because you can pick it up, so that you do not commit E to mid or are there any other advantages?

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

I'm assuming youre talking about the attack side? If you use your wall for mid, you cant use it for the site execs, where I'd argue that its more important

[@Murasame13]

38:00 is not peeker's advantage, this is actually just corner angle perceptive disadvantage or something along those lines. Peeker's advantage is a phenomenon which gives the player peeking a 0.7ms advantage over the person they are peeking due to ping mainly.

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Youre absolutely right, misspoke but appreciate you pointing it out!

[@reactivicky]

This guy is a genius

[@sashuo5961]

the b defense is a huge help. I've had a high success rate defending b with how you play

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Glad I could help :D

[@vanta405]

you can press and hold “e” or “q” and get your util back btw

[@thefreeze6023]

This channel is a goldmine for controller mains

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Appreciate the kind words! GOOD LUCK!

[@arsifali]

thank u for this

[@worthyae3396]

Hello flow, I hope your day is going well. Tysm for all the guides you posted on astra, they rlly did help me have a greater understanding of the character. Now if you don't mind, I had a question in mind about viper ? Many of my friends say viper is "useless on fracture and so I often refrain from playing her despite being a controller main. Could you please clarify whether other controllers are more viable than viper in such maps? Thanks for your time

[@Mamadeira_]

IMO viper is the best controller on fracture idk why people don`t like her as much

[@worthyae3396]

@@Mamadeira_ ahh okay tysm

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

I play VIPER on fracture over Astra, as I like her more there. She's nowhere near useless on that map, as she can easily smoke things out, unlike on maps like Ascent where you'll have more trouble with her util, its really up to preference but I'll be showing how I play her in a future video!

[@worthyae3396]

@@FLOWSHIZZLE thank you so much for taking the trouble to reply. I'll try her out for sure in my next fracture match !!

[@paladinlol262]

thank you for this guide! would love a breeze guide for viper.

[@clow312]

First started watching your channel because it's soo hard to use Astra. 🤣 But u made it easy with your explanation and so is this one. Thank you :)

[@squideogames]

This man needs more views. I did find a lineup for the viper smokes on B crate that allows you to pick it back up. It's not that consistent though

[@hyungjinlee745]

I love this! Please do other maps as well!!

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

More on the way :D

[@thesabotagedandovershadowe8423]

this was insanely helpful wow

[@ElCanadian14]

Great shit man

[@Busterblade20]

Great video but I would definitely check out jinzled defensive setups guide he made up a lot of fantastic walls and orbs lineups that work really well in icebox and other maps too.

[@paramrm]

MORE VIPER VIDEOS PLEASEEE!!!!!!!!!

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

On the way :)

[@jeevanmahesh3852]

Flow thanks a lot for this. Looking forward to breeze and fracture

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

thanks for watching!

[@Bighomer5]

I really like the B wall. Super basic maybe but you missed showing defensive ultimates on A and B. Also there are default mollies from snowman and from backsite, the backsite lineup being that you bounce it off the floating container from below the bridge connection to kitchen.

[@nik_mik]

you're amazing. I can play my girl even better now. ngl, I always used lineups instead of mid orb!

[@ITPMMA]

more viper main videos pls u r my controller inspo

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

More on the way stay tuned :D

[@robertodelagarza1103]

Yo bro cant you post a full game of you or some highlights of you playing would really like to see a full game

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Yup its in the works :) will upload tommorow!

[@ijlimm17]

i love it! please do viper for breeze next :)

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Yessirrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[@aurigenesis]

Need the guide for Viper on Fracture. Also, would you consider playing Viper on Split and Bind?

[@atelierremo]

I personally love viper on bind and split, but most of the time u just don‘t have enough to play post plant, since u almost have to use ur orb everytime agressive to smoke the enemies off. U can ask to play double smokes which is really greate.

[@APB.86]

please please PLEASE do a guide of viper on fracture!

[@armchairowlyst]

So I'm not sure if I was just doing it wrong, but earlier today I tried ulting on top of 410 and it gave me an error message saying I couldn't ult there. Did it get patched out?

[@Mihawk288]

I like how your 2 clips of you ratting in our corner and you using the one way effectively happened literally on stream like 3 days ago, after you recorded the viper guide

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

haha proof that it actually works!

[@ram9053]

Watched all 40 minutes of this amazing content. Would be nice if you can get a breeze guide up too. Thanks 🖤

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Coming soon!

[@antonygaming4702]

Hey just another comment, I finished watching the video and I learned soooo much, thank you very much great content as always

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Thank you for watching!

[@patlechat69]

we need the breeze one soon :) great guide, im now radiant

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

That ones next ;)

[@PluginYami]

Appreciate it brother

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Appreciate you watching :))

[@fxschlix]

From where did u get the hoodie from the intro

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

I work for ANDBOX so it's merch from them! You can check out there store just google it!

[@Mihawk288]

@@FLOWSHIZZLE I like how the character on the hoody literally means flow

[@yepyep4840]

With this video, I've locked down B with viper and they basically hit A almost every round or mid.

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Enjoy playing rotate simulator! :D

[@shadowersm]

"wait jett fight here, fight here" *gets 2 kills without jetts help*

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

I just wanted him there for morale support 😌

[@antonygaming4702]

Hey ! great vid, but I would like to see the map.. maybe put the facecam under it? (just like ethos did ?) I am watching your stream and I'm sad that I can't see the map, it usually helps me to understand what is going on in your games, and apply your gamesense in my games as an astra/viper main, thank you !

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

It's a bit hard due to stream snipers to put it on stream :( ill take a look at finding other ways!

[@iksanps]

Best valo video ive seen

[@laurenz1747]

Thanj you for that.

[@acorn20]

lineup video with map covered Clap

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

why do you need a minimap for a lineup o.o

[@IntelligentIndividual]

the vid would look a lot better if you put the for example "a site executes " under the mini map and then put your facecam in the top right

[@janmickaguilar]

@flowshizzle you’re literally the shizzle 💪🤪 you’ve made being a controller so fun regardless of my rank lmao

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Haha glad I could do that for you!

[@janmickaguilar]

@@FLOWSHIZZLE the king replies 🥳 , are you coming out with viper guide to fracture and breeze too ?

[@yoyo19831983]

Who sould plant on a team? The controller?

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Depends in the scenario but alot of the time yes!

[@kimochi1972]

I feel bad for this guy being a astra and viper main and both agents being nerfed to oblivion at the same time. Viper main here

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Unlucky! But it makes it so I can play other agents so I don't mind :)

[@Pariux]

Your viper setup for B is flawed only because it is still possible to peek from main to watch spike. If you place the wall behind b-main orb, you can not only bait it but also force enemies to go through your wall to stop defuse.

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

I'm assuming you're talking about the close angle? Hard to understand through text but honestly my setup has a shifted focus from sticking spike, to having an easier time retaking because with my wall you can fight for yellow separate from B main, but the other wall allows attackers to rotate from B main to yellow without any punishment. I think I actually did record a part where I explain why I dont use the normal B wall, but may have cut it due to the length of this video already being 40 minutes long 😅

[@parkerweller8623]

this is fucking amazing, thank you. liked and commented so more people see it :)

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Appreciate the support :D

[@HF-2121]

FINALLY

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Thanks for waiting!

[@luciole2594]

smokes is the single most vital ability a team needs and in all 3 maps they render all controllers useless unless it's viper that's part of why I hate the new concept of map design that riot is taking, I love viper but I hate that I HAVE to play her on these maps it gets boring.

[@MrGManSG]

"Viper main" Uses High Settings /s I've watched all of your guides, can't wait for Breeze and Fracture.

[@minhtrio6980]

All Astra mains know how to play Viper to some extend lol :)

[@Ju-ww6sz]

Underrated as fuck

[@beamzy942]

Lets go

[@GeezSus]

This ain't working after the Icebox rework, at least Flows gets more content tho

[@raken8447]

Thanks again for your work on doing all these guides! For the Orb setup on B: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp7WfayNp76Moas I'm by no means a viper onetrick but I found this very useful AND you can pick up the orb again if you have to rotate to A.

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

Awesome you saved me some time! This works perfectly!

[@BeyondBreacher]

@@FLOWSHIZZLE pin this please

[@AntechamberVAL]

B Main wall is insanely outdated and gives 0 site control. If you're not holding site from ON site, you're doing it wrong

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

The only cover on site on B is yellow, its just a slight variation from what the pros use, that i modified so I can be more aggro, if you have a better wall please shoot a suggestion!

[@VEDICGaming]

WHy you hiding your minimap in a viper tutorial lmao

[@FLOWSHIZZLE]

i stream and its for streamsnipers since I use OBS to record too lmao

[@VEDICGaming]

@@FLOWSHIZZLE Ohk Thanks for the vid btw great work

[@ITPMMA]

4th time watching this