A-Z Of National Bus Company Subsidiaries: East Yorkshire

[@garrymartin6474]

East Yorkshire buses always evoke happy childhood memories of days out at the seaside. I always thought the dark blue livery was and is the best I've ever seen

[@JakeSCOC]

@@garrymartin6474 It's an absolutely stunning livery. I'd go as far as to say the NBC version was probably the best colours I've seen a VR in.

[@adamlee3772]

Very interesting video. Thanks for producing it. Those Routemaster looked good in the dark blue.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@adamlee3772 Thanks Adam. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yes they were lovely weren't they? Suited the bodywork nicely.

[@Froobyone]

I've been really looking forward to this episode. It didn't disappoint. The Indigo livery was/is the best livery a bus could hope for. I still get a thrill when I see one of the heritage buses drive by. Thank you.

[@markcf83]

Their new livery looks great I must admit.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@Froobyone Glad it lived up to your expectations. Yes it's a really stunning livery isn't it? The North of England does seem to have some rather nice liveries, this one and Halifax springs to mind.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@markcf83 Yes very crisp isn't it?

[@lucythemoggy1970]

I did a secondment at east yorkshire for the summer, not long after go ahead took over, i am based at plymouth citybus which is part of go south west. The staff are really lovely and i managaed to meet my name sake in the depot before i left!

[@JakeSCOC]

@@lucythemoggy1970 Hello fellow Go Ahead person 👋🏻. I find people at Go Ahead in general are a lot friendlier to be honest.

[@lucythemoggy1970]

@@JakeSCOC where r u based?

[@StephenAllcroft]

EYMS buses and coaches had different shades of blue from the early 1950s. Indigo and Riviera Blue respectively. From summer 1972 when corporate image came in the full coaches went all over white initially with a blue line beneath the company indentifier over the front wheelarch. The start of Corporate image for the buses in early 1973 saw the first batch of Bristol VRs in indigo with white relief bands and grey wheels, which was applied to repaints, likewise a batch of Plaxton Elite Express Leopards were finished in white over Riviera blue, with other dual purpose Leopards and Panthers so equipped on repaint. Poppy red deliveries began with the first full-height Atlanteans in 1974. The present day East Yorkshire Coaches livery is Riviera Blue and Primrose. Scarborough and DIstrict was previously part of United, and was split off in 1986.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@StephenAllcroft Thanks Stephen. I've said it before but those VRs are probably the most attractive liveried ones I've seen from new. I remember when the EFE model came out thinking how good it looked.

[@kevanhubbard9673]

I only got East Yorkshire under the belt once during NBC ownership from Scarborough to Bridlington.One direction was East Yorkshire and the other a United but I can't remember which.Strangely with the other compass point direction Yorkshire one,West Yorkshire,i only did it once too Leeds to Ripon or v.v.and a United the other way.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@kevanhubbard9673 That's interesting. I was looking at an old route map of East Yorkshires and there's a few like that with different companies.

[@sameyers2670]

A couple of out of area acquisitions were Finglands of Manchester in 1992 and Whittles of Kidderminster in 2004, Finglands was sold in 2013 and Whittles 2015

[@JakeSCOC]

@@sameyers2670 Thank you for that. Quite a distance then?

[@sameyers2670]

It certainly was. Finglands was sold to First, Whittles coach side was sold to Johnsons and the bus side was shut down

[@markcf83]

One of the few NBC subsidiaries that I've yet to get to see in person save for their coaching operations.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@markcf83 That makes two of us!

[@lucythemoggy1970]

i love how the nbc typeface still exists on the front of the depot

[@JakeSCOC]

@@lucythemoggy1970 Yes that's such a lovely touch isn't it? I hope Go Ahead keep it.

[@RichardGrantham-fl3yc]

Sadly it has now gone,

[@lucythemoggy1970]

@@RichardGrantham-fl3yc no way! hope it hasn't been skipped and gone to a good home somewhere!

[@sameyers2670]

​@@JakeSCOCUnfortunately it has now gone, it was removed after an incident at the depot

[@JakeSCOC]

@sameyers2670 Was that the wall or roof collapse?

[@superted6960]

You're right about the single decker "NBC" livery being a lighter shade of blue. They never did set on a standard blue before it was dispensed with. You'll also see that the Bridgemaster has white relief on the roof. This was a special dispensation from NBC HQ so they could easily identify buses capable of going under the Bar. As well as East Yorkshire, a few service buses also ran through to York & Leeds, as part of a joint service (I think) with West Yorkshire. Would occasionally see one hurtling through my home village (Seacroft, Leeds) but never recall one stopping.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@superted6960 Thank you for that. Very interesting. Those East Yorkshire motors must have really stood out when they came out of their area, especially somewhere like Leeds with the Tilling Red West Yorkshire buses and the dark green Leeds buses.

[@2002barneyf]

Another interesting video Jake. I remember seeing the blue buses when we came to live in Hull in late 1973, although I think the disease of Poppy Red-itis was starting to spread then - I do recall seeing a couple of Fleetlines (of course I didn't know they were fleetlines then, i was just a little lad, besotted with buses) painted in red - they must have been freshly done as they looked bright. As you will recall Poppy Red faded badly and of course it could not compare to the blue but such was progress! I have memories of the Bridgemasters (my favourites would have to be the 1961 batch which had rear entrances and Beverley Bar sloping windows, these seemed to be better proprtioned than the front entrance ones of 1962/3 and liked the later Renowns which I think last ran about 1980 (dark blue patterned moquette inside was very distinctive). I believe that the first Beverley Bar Roof Bus was Titan TD3 no 270 in 1934. Can't wait (but will have to for some time) for you to do Yorkshire Woollen District as that was the first fleet I recall which passed outside our house in Mirfield before the move to Hull. Keep up the good work!

[@JakeSCOC]

@@2002barneyf Thank you so much. Glad you're enjoying these. I do love poppy red but as you say, it fades so dramatically. In fact my memory is of very faded - almost pink! - instead of red. Yes you have a bit of a wait for any of the other Yorkshire fleets.

[@homeland417]

Great work 👏 this company had such great colours throughout their history

[@JakeSCOC]

@@homeland417 Thank you. Yes they were very classy and stylish looking liveries weren't they?

[@theenergyflowtribejamesbro1302]

Totally agree with you regarding the NBC blue livery as being the most attractive.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@theenergyflowtribejamesbro1302 Thanks. Shame it was more popular.

[@marksinthehouse1968]

Your right about the blue NBC livery with white trim looks really smart ,that narrow arch for some reason reminds me of the one at barnes bridge where by you have to go out into the middle of the road and line up with the white bars on the bridge I bet you Everytime I got there you would get a car beeping to move over even a bus driver driving a 209 single decker had a go at me until I put him right a few choice trouser based words done it 😂,Dominic littlewood done a programme when he worked for East Yorkshire for a day All the best Jake Mark 😊😊

[@JakeSCOC]

@@marksinthehouse1968 Hi Mark, it's a shame the blue wasn't continued isn't it? I know it made a reappearance in Gloucestershire in the 80's (or a form of it anyway). I remember reading somewhere that the liveries were meant to red, and blue for buses and white cmfor coaches. Us oiks from PM never were allowed over to the posh side!

[@marksinthehouse1968]

@@JakeSCOCI know I live in Hammersmith and I see barnes where my Filipino princes lives talk about me the boy from the high rise city and her from the country 😊

[@JakeSCOC]

@marksinthehouse1968 Similar to how I felt when I moved from rural Wight to Peckham in 1997 😱

[@craigsibley8161]

Nice one 👍👍👍 Another episode of the A-Z knocked off...

[@JakeSCOC]

@@craigsibley8161 Thanks Craig

[@maestromanification]

Excellent video jake, I remember seeing east Yorkshire buses when on holiday as a kid in Filey and Scarborough in the 70s. Some interesting vehicles back then Bit of a shameless plug for your chippy in Scarborough 😅 Cheers Russ

[@JakeSCOC]

@@maestromanification Well spotted Russ. Well if it sells a few more savaloys it's all good 😂. Sadly if I did own a chippy I'd be the size of a house! Did you stay at Butlins at Filey?

[@MaxCawthray]

The NBC blue was nice and a lost opportunity to roll it out on other fleets (pun intended). It was probably discontinued because the NBC being a state owned entity had a simplified top down approach to things. I think it did make a brief return in the early 1980s on Cheltenham and Gloucester.

[@JakeSCOC]

@@MaxCawthray Hi Max, yes it did make a come back in Gloucester but I believe that was a special colour called Gloucester Blue. The NBC livery in blue looked amazing. But maybe it's appeal in in it's rarity?

[@highpath4776]

@@JakeSCOC The idea in NBC that buses should only be painted red or green was just silly. I doubt there was that much discount in bulk buying two shades rather than three ? Obviously if your local authority competitor has the same colour maybe worth changing it. but then East Yorkshire and Hull were both blue in different shades. I suppose Chesterfield and East Midland were both green.

[@JakeSCOC]

@highpath4776 I suppose if it was a former Tilling company red or green was understandable. Maybe that's where the inspiration came from?

[@sameyers2670]

The pre NBC blue livery was the Lee and Beulah livery

[@JakeSCOC]

@@sameyers2670 Very interesting. Thanks for that. Hope I pronounced Beulah properly?

[@sameyers2670]

Yes you pronounced Beulah properly. Versions of the original livery have been used more recently, in 2006 a bus (670) was painted in a 80th anniversary version of it and several others have worn versions of it, in a couple of cases for branded routes

[@JakeSCOC]

@sameyers2670 Thank you. Very good to know.

[@Billyclark51]

I’m really enjoying this series of videos, Jake! Any chance you’ll be making one about Yorkshire Traction, eventually?

[@JakeSCOC]

@@Billyclark51 Thanks Billy. Yes I will be doing Yorkshire Traction but it will be a little bit down the list unfortunately. But then you'll have Yorkshire Traction, Yorkshire Wollen and West Yorkshire in close succession.

[@highpath4776]

@@JakeSCOC Fun when you get to deciding to do companies on NBC Formation , or at the "heyday of NBC ( 1974 ? ) or retrospectives on Closure , or repeat . (expecially Western Welsh . Jones . Red and White - indeed should the Watts group get a special vid with the bits that got added to Hants and Dorset around Basingstoke, some London coach services etc )

[@JakeSCOC]

@highpath4776 Oh yes 🤣

[@highpath4776]

Rather ridiculous that a whole company had 200 in the fleet, there are some London Transport Garages that were bigger than that.

[@sameyers2670]

There's only around 250 vehicles in the fleet now, though when I started there in 2007 there were around 330 in the main fleet plus the Finglands and Whittles operations

[@highpath4776]

@@sameyers2670 Yeah I was going on the NBC numbers on formation, Scarborough got added when United got reduced in size. Not sure where the +50 are being used now compared to NBC routes - a few extra on what used to be joint routes ?

[@JakeSCOC]

@@highpath4776 When you say that, yes very much so. And I don't think that was the smallest NBC subsidiary either!

[@highpath4776]

@@JakeSCOC Pre merging or rebranding I think that was Hebble ? or Provincial (or one of the coach units - ( Timpsons ?) . BET deliberately kept some smaller companies to help with training managers up the corporate ladder (so a Traffic Manager for an area of a larger company would go to GM of smaller for the additional skills required to go to next large company as a General Manager )

[@a11csc]

❤️😍😊👍

[@JakeSCOC]

@@a11csc Thanks Chris 👍🏼

[@dragon4r4]

Sorry, I'm not a keyboard warrior but Yorkshire is North East England, not N E Britain 😂

[@JakeSCOC]

@@dragon4r4 Very true also 👍🏼