A31 - Arete Supercar project - What went wrong, miscalculations, and just plain screw ups!

[@teamEP789]

oscar worthy performance

[@dustinsadler668]

Your mistakes are minor for completely building a car from scratch! Great work. Glad your a humble man.

[@jeffmeca8131]

Hello, I discovered your videos a few days ago. Your videos are very interesting and informative, even for people like me who are 40 years old in the automotive industry. I have to prepare some engines and sometimes before getting very good results, I have broken several. It is often from our mistakes that we learn our knowledge. Congratulations for the work accomplished! Life is an eternal recommencement. See you for a new project. Jeff

[@BuilderCreator]

For sure! More for our souls than our projects.

[@JoelKSLC]

I’m 2 years into my first component car build and when I make a mistake I just say to myself, “Thinking more about it, I’ll just consider this part a prototype” then move on and redo it. Love the channel and project.

[@jeromeparauilles89]

supercar from the ground up. See my errors in turbo placement, sheet metal bending of suspension pick up points, transmission

[@robertcook4215]

This is a fabulous build! I enjoy listening and see your thought process on design and then seeing alternative solutions. Keep it up!

[@danilok2483]

No words to say How incredible you are ! Thank you for sharing your work , you are the best !

[@BuilderCreator]

There are a lot of women in my past who I wish would have said that to me! Ha! Thanks for watching!

[@danilok2483]

@@BuilderCreator Sorry about that , im just a ugly guy hahaha Here in Brazil there are a Lot of "Pumas" that use VW Beatle chassis engine, suspension , the modeling are like you do ... My dream are make my own sport prototype car like puma did See that work inspire me to keep pursuit my dream =D Thank you !

[@edwardli2613]

I don’t know your wife but when you mentioned the low door sills and one of the reasons it reminded me of my ex. She had a small import business and leased a warehouse with two employees, a young woman and man. The three shared a very small office and spent most of their days at their desks. This small office has a front door and a back door. She placed their two desks facing each other against a wall furthest from the doors. The part that killed me was she placed her own desk in the same tiny office facing the other two desks. She wore very short skirts to work and her desk had no metal vertical panel at the front to block the others from seeing her legs and up into her skirt as she sat at her desk facing them ALL DAY EVERY DAY. I sat at the male employees desk one day to install updates on his computer and looked over at my ex - saw what this employee had been looking at every day for 5 years! I immediately offered to install a panel on her desk to block the view but she angrily refused saying it would be too obvious. I even offered buy her a new office desk with a front panel but she grew angry at my spending the money (an excuse, she never cared about my money at all). I finally offered to put a decorative table cloth on her desk but the answer was again no. I dont know if she was an exhibitionist or not but I left her after two years of her violence and insanity. Most men are innocent, simple people happy to work on our cars in the garage or shop. But when something doesn’t feel right, we deserve to be heard. I don’t know if you meant what I think you meant but I felt 100% better hearing that other man doesnt want other men seeing his wife’s underwear. Bravo!

[@shadowblack1987]

She slept with that guy, or flirted. Sorry bro... Lost a 10 year relationship with some BS too.

[@jameshendrickson8159]

Toxic life =toxic wife, something ain't right..

[@JohnSmith-xl9bo]

Great presentation. Yes, Human. I build Giant Scale RC Planes for customers all over the world. This latest project is a big Grumman Goose. The retracts are hand built using steel rod and a few 3D printed parts...works fine but not 100% satisfied. Things happen...we go back and correct the issues. It's what we do! :)

[@BuilderCreator]

Oh man! I went to look at your KZbin profile thinking I would catch some RC aircraft goodness, but alas no airplane videos. Do you psot pictures on Instagram or other social media?

[@angelicksmiling1134]

I love it brotha pure raw engineering plain and simple÷÷÷÷

[@TT.357]

Mistakes are a big part of learning. One concern of mine is that if you run the charge pipe through the cabin and it bursts it could cause damage to the upholstery or injure the driver. I know it’s unlikely, and I don’t know what kind of boost you’re planning, but it’s just a thought.

[@BuilderCreator]

Hey! Thanks for your concern! the pipe will hold greater than 100 psi. I think the engine will burst before the pipe. Ha!

[@thequietkiwi]

@@BuilderCreator Unless there is a fault in the pipe and it bursts, in which case you're dead.

[@Jozavenue]

Don't forget ,metal fabrication is a skill .

[@USMCCGAGNG]

Mistakes made and mistakes not repaired properly because of fatigue can make or break a quality build. Take your time and ALWAYS do it right. No compromises.

[@DemopVWgarage]

5:47 you can add a thinker mix of resin/ fiberfill into those hard edges to help prevent air bubbles before laminating ;)

[@michaelsnyder7442]

I like what you have achieved. I learned sometimes it's better to walk away, have a coke and a smile and come back later, with a clear head. But that is just me.

[@tedecker3792]

I learned that lesson years ago building model cars. Sometimes everything I touched turned to s... Likewise, sometimes you are on a roll, and it pays to keep going to 2 or 3 am. Some of my finest work came out of those sessions. Even if it meant falling asleep in calculus!

[@anomamos9095]

Speaking of screwups. I’m not sure if you have mentioned it or not but Never try to laminate a sharp corner. You can have a knife edge corner or strength but you can’t have both. About the maximum radius you can bend any kind of fibre is five millimetres or a quarter inch any more and the fibres will simply break under load. If you want a cosmetic sharp edge build a strong structure underneath lay down some bondo to get the shape then laminate a very thin fibre over the top but don’t be surprised if it develops cracks. Choosing the right material. Carbon is stronger than steel for the mass but it can be brittle under impact loads. E glass is cheapest but not as strong and S glass can be stronger than carbon, Kevlar has its benefits also. Another material used in race construction is milk cartons. That plastic they use to make plastic milk jugs is even used in bulletproof vests and as impact shields for the under body of off road vehicles. Some cutting boards are made of the stuff so if you need some impact buffers or spacers whip down to your dollar store.

[@lennym1273]

Starboard, they sell it in sheets up to 4 foot by 8 foot, same as the cutting boards...

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

I'm no bending expert but I have found when bending a dual 90 degree you place the piece in the break past the first bend and make the second bend and then pull that angle open enough to clear the second bend and then you slide the piece out to the second bend and over bend it slightly and then straighten (flatten) the piece in the bender when you remove it and you will have 2 perfect 90 degree angles. Hope I explained that correctly. ;)

[@BuilderCreator]

The real solution is a nice hydraulic finger break. Ha!

[@jamest5149]

You could have used the 3D printer parts to prove fitment then send the files off to a CNC machinist to make out of billet alloy instead of you’re rejected casting method.

[@ProjectSupercar]

Oh, now I know why your turbo pipes are inside the cabin. Well, I'm almost through all your videos, and I'll soon be all caught up. Still don't know how the gearbox is going to work yet. ;)

[@basberend]

will the control arms be strong enough with allmost no metal in the between plates? dimple dies would work and look nicer #lovethebuild

[@kz6fittycent]

I don't know why, but for some reason you remind me of Bruce Campbell...that's good - he's a cool dude.

[@BuilderCreator]

I've had that comparison made before. In fact he lives about 30 miles from me; hoping to run into him on the street and see if it triggers that doppelganger fear. Ha!

[@pgtmr2713]

@@BuilderCreator I saw it immediately, first time viewer. I just happened to be doing fiberglass repairs to plastic ground effects on my Ford Probe GT. There's a huge piece that went missing. So far off the shelf fiberglass and resin, it looks like tree sap. But it's shaping up nicely for a first piece. Long term I'd like to put the entire drivetrain in back. I was considering finding ways to add strength with fiberglass somehow. I don't know if I'll get anywhere with that idea, or need it, thought I'd share.

[@kz6fittycent]

@@BuilderCreator hail to the king baby!

[@ramonpena3011]

Excellent entertainment and learning experience. I always dream doing a project like this. I hope more people like, subscribe and support your channel. Thank you.

[@kenj7153]

I am just going to ask. Why did you not use a trans axle? What kind of transfercase will you be using to get power to the diff? Lastly won't you be loosing power with the added drive equiptment? I can also see you will be loosing a great deal of interior space of the cabin. Looks to be a great little sports car when done with alot of great work involved. Looking tight on space however.

[@BuilderCreator]

Price of a trans-axle that can handle 600HP. I will be building the 1:1 transfer case. Yes there will be power loss. Space- coming with the next project. Ha!

[@utkarshbhadauria3893]

Sir I am an engineering student from India and building my own supercar is my childhood dream. So ,I had planned to start the project in my first year of engineering . So when I completed designing I started looking for a video to assist me with what should I do next . So, sir can how help me out with my doubts please I want to learn a lot from you about this project . If yes please tell me how can I contact you.

[@BuilderCreator]

There is an email link on the "about" tab of the KZbin channel, or through the buildercreator.com website.

[@davecooper5951]

It's all learning isn't it ? Just last week I got 'spat at' by disturbing a pot of CF resin when at it's most unstable point ! (2-3 deg C over upper working limit). Another shirt and pair of jeans bites the dust...... Could have been worse - eyes, arms, chest burns possibly. Lesson learnt !

[@nateward7120]

“Leave you in suspense.” I see what you did there. 😉

[@GotMilkRS13]

Crazy idea, if the intercooler piping runs through the cabin, why not installing the BOV there?

[@vincentbaelde-millar670]

I'm glad you went away from casting the suspension parts from aluminium, the minute I saw those 3D printed patterns I imagined faults. The cast aluminium would have been beautiful, but I wouldn't be surprised if the parts you fabricated from chromoly tube end up having better strength for the same weight. Did you do strength calculations comparing the two?

[@BuilderCreator]

I have an engineer friend that was an expert witness in a court case involving a cast suspension piece . . I love my foundry, but it didn't take much for him to talk me back. The cast pieces where becoming a bit to bulky to achieve the strength, so your right the aluminum would likely have been heavier anyway,

[@evoluke1069]

Thanks for reading and replying to my other comments. Unfortunately constructive input usually sounds like criticism. For all that you have designed and manufactured yourself (which is extremely impressive) I wouldn't even call these mistakes, they're more like design/manufacture considerations besides, you never get everything right the first time.

[@SteveBueche1027]

Will the tube running into the back of the passenger compartment generate heat ?

[@BuilderCreator]

Yes, working on solutions.

[@mikeleonard8031]

It’s a learning curve to make mistakes.

[@edwardli2613]

Great videos Jay! Very impressive patience and skills. Will the compressed intake air of 230-260F create heat inside the cabin? Or is it downstream of the intercooler by that point? Prior to all this, I was concerned with those twin turbos creating heat damage to fiberglass body parts, especially the exhaust side plumbing.

[@BuilderCreator]

It will be heated air. another point to address- insulate the tube- thanks for your comment.

[@edwardli2613]

BuilderCreator Yes, that cabin crossover tube will be air heated to 230-270F so should be insulated and/or intercooled prior to cabin entry. The exhaust pipes to & from the turbos need ceramic coating or heat shields

[@edwardli2613]

To protect the nearby fiberglass and electrical components, engine parts, etc

[@MrMottestyles]

I can't believe you're making the tub out of fibreglass. The amount of reinforcement you're putting in due to flexing I think proves this was a mistake- I work with grp and it becomes a lot more brittle as it ages.

[@salvadorebertolone]

we should fix like 90% of boats then.

[@Jupiter__001_]

Civilian aeroplanes and gliders seem to get on fine with fibreglass, as do fishing rods.

[@sachiboy100]

cut a small slice in the bend machine so when you bend the second side, it will pass through.

[@SJR_Media_Group]

To error is Human, to really mess things up takes an Entrepreneur.

[@scoutsapp5624]

This channel is so wholesome I love it

[@zavatone]

That's not what wholesome means.

[@scoutsapp5624]

Well his attitude towards how he handles problems is promoting better practices, promoting moral well being; I.e. wholesome

[@MrMango222au]

boost pipes in the cabin no need for a heater then

[@jameshendrickson8159]

Now that registers for a winter time central nebraska super dooper hooskie ride!!!

[@fritzinger2351]

Schönes Projekt. Cool, sowas selber zu machen. Wie sieht es mit TÜV aus? Dieses Video hat mehr Erfolg verdient. Sehr viel Arbeit. Viele Grüße aus Deutschland.

[@BuilderCreator]

Vielen Dank, dass Sie das Projekt verfolgt haben. Ich liebe es, unsere europäischen Freunde dabei zu haben. Ich fange gerade an, KZbin herauszufinden, und die Ansichten kommen. Ich wünschte, mein Deutsch wäre bereit, eine Episode für Sie auf Deutsch zu machen, aber bis dahin Google Übersetzer!

[@maclovin61]

Watch the build videos and pretty much enjoyed them. I get the idea doing things yourself....the story later ,making videos, engineering so many pieces its who we are ...its challenging but why not buy something like the ultima rs ?

[@BuilderCreator]

Because then I would be driving an Ultima RS. Ha!

[@Rogge73]

I know who you remind me of, Bruce Cambel! and thats a good thing....

[@BuilderCreator]

So many people comparing the two of us. maybe I can hire Bruce to do the videos and just answer comments from the Bahamas. Ha!

[@Rogge73]

@@BuilderCreator You would make a good team! Your car is gorgeous by the way! :)

[@shovington67]

@@BuilderCreator , I can see why people mention Bruce Campbell in the comments, but honestly its more of a family resemblance and not twins separated at birth. In your position, I'd just tell people for fun that you were adopted and you never met your real family. Stir the pot, have some fun!

[@punchy001]

Dude, where do you live so i can move next door?

[@BuilderCreator]

Oregon, but next door is a field with cows. HA!

[@jayphilipwilliams]

I didn't understand why you were going to have the exhaust manifolds cast in the first place instead of welding them up. Now I don't understand why you're not still going to do it the way you had planned.

[@BuilderCreator]

I now have almost 3 inches of extra room, mandrel bends and possibly a few pie cuts can do it. Before it would have been a pie cut nightmare to have welded it up.

[@bradmaas6875]

On those bent brackets, a trick is to buzz them on their fold line with a narrow dick angle grinder or a plasma cutter 80% of the line. They bend easy and easy to weld. Since the list of errors was so small, where are the rest of the mistakes?

[@BuilderCreator]

Still making the "more" mistakes. Ha!

[@bradmaas6875]

@@BuilderCreator me too

[@matgggg55]

I hate when you tubers don’t show mistakes it’s such a false reality everyone makes mistakes!! And I highly!! Recommend making 3D printed dyes for bending sheet metal

[@petertelford4900]

For your steel you can not bend why don't you use square or rectangular tubing and cut what you need out of it so you have clean bends, oh when you dig out all your air bubbles you should not just fill it you need to relay glass and resin not body filler.

[@markpasquarella3223]

I talk to myself the same way when I screw up

[@BuilderCreator]

Then you must be much nicer, as I have just edited out the bad stuff. Ha! Thanks for watching.

[@lesliesingh8324]

Lololololol great content.

[@danielhowell1640]

You need to trade your brake in for a hydraulic finger brake.

[@1903ibo]

key is hammer in the wise closer to bend farter you hammer bend will more be around than sharp bent

[@billlumburg7594]

👍🏽

[@randytravis3998]

they are not mistakes at all ,, they are just a way that will not work ..

[@bigdaddy741098]

Are you sure acrossed isn't another mistake?? You can say, the dog crossed the street or, the dog is across the street..... but I'm pretty sure acrossed is definitely not a real word... just sayin 😁👍👊

[@thequietkiwi]

From the first video I knew this car was doomed. Too heavy and weak in all the wrong places. The perfect car if you never want to drive it. Great video editing though.

[@Jozavenue]

Your lower control arms are under engineered ,other words weak ,and will twist .

[@rhinotrikes]

Isn't it frustrating when you have to bust your own balls for making stupid cock ups? Get an assistant, and blame them like all bosses!

[@bobdavis3389]

LOL

[@dboboc]

Don’t go into acting.