Donkey Kong - Low Poly feat. Shesez & Beta64 - Episode 5

In this special episode, we take a look at how Donkey and Diddy Kong's models have evolved through the main series of games, plus we break some boundaries in Donkey Kong Country Returns with Shesez (Boundary Break) and compare some of it's development changes courtesy of Beat64.
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[@AStartShow]

Donkey Kong 64 came out in 1997. One of these days I'll make a video with a mistake in it! Jeez

[@FirstNameLastName-mn9sz]

A+Start you mean without a mistake?

[@tsadriu7861]

One of these days I'll make a video* with* a mistake in it

[@andrewm4590]

It came out in 1999

[@scarletnekoanimations2654]

A+Start how many polys used in Donkey kong 3ds game

[@Jack_Jack7890]

A+Start please do the legend of zelda next!!!

[@moneymoney3780]

Says ''this is a permanent series'' * ends the series *

[@tristanpowell85]

I hope not.

[@Xx_FadedTurd_xX]

where is link and Lara croft

[@MegaZeta]

Hell, read the whiny, trivia-obsessed comments on every single one of these videos, all completely misunderstanding the point of them. This series was pearls before swine.

[@MiyaMam948]

It's back, baby!

[@LucasDanielCab5]

Money Money Banjo Kazooie Low Poly happened

[@nepnep2053]

I literally just watched Donkey Kong t-pose for 15 minutes

[@johnonthephone5625]

dude youre so funny

[@miguelvillegas7049]

Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookillmeooooo

[@ajpYT]

Look at ur likes

[@khianglam]

Imao

[@waluigionadinosaursquisham4035]

*S. T. A. N. C. E*

[@smashmania6644]

Diddy Kong 64 looks like he got caught eating shredded cheese.

[@iwillbegonesoonbutfornowia6152]

It's been a year since the last low poly vid...

[@Bobby_Peters]

This came out in 2017... now it's 2019!

[@Bixxy]

well shit. i started watching these vids on this channel yesterday and was looking forward to the DK models in smash.

[@Bobby_Peters]

@@Bixxy Yep...

[@MegaZeta]

Given how packed the comments are on every single video with tone-deaf whining that completely misreads the point of the series, instead screeching "YOU FORGOT _____" over and over, why bother continuing with it?

[@evanbookout]

Narrowlegacy87 so much for a permanent series lol

[@thehyliangamer100]

I'd die to see a Zelda low poly. Also love how I've got three DK videos to watch now, thank you :)

[@haha-uj5rj]

oh shit it's elixirsoup!

[@benjamingonzalez8753]

If you didn't notice, on the Low Poly trailer you could see a part where he was seeing Link's model from his 64 game. But, Andy randomly uploads at whatever time so... YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING!~

[@octavia8332]

You'll see! that my mind is too fast for eyes!

[@BlusterTheBenevolent]

elixirsoup follow a ready body or die

[@AStartShow]

Hey guys, Andy here, Merry Christmas to you all. I present a new Low Poly episode with my good friends Shesez and Beta64. We’ve worked hard to showcase each others work, so please go and support them by watching their episode where i feature also. Thanks guys :) Andy

[@aracellybaires5615]

A+Start + merry frickmas my man merry christmas keep it up

[@Atollic]

I've haven't seen you in so long 😥

[@Atollic]

And please do another son of a glitch

[@hiddenjems144]

Hey Andy can you do an episode of low poly about Links 3d sprites

[@Nahobinoah]

Dude why did this take so long? Its been MONTHS!!

[@paultheslayer2176]

Who is still here a year later waiting for a new episode.

[@adeermintz]

how about 2 years

[@LetGoMyLegosTyler]

Almost 3 now

[@quintonmaxfield5757]

Wait you were here only a year ago I. Still here

[@paultheslayer2176]

Well now its been around 3 years, so...

[@feelinitnyc]

@@paultheslayer2176 its about to be 4

[@Dilan_Duck]

Can you make a Zelda low poly episode please ? It will be cool to see the olds Link models

[@ClembsArchive]

Expand

[@Floralz]

Clém' Bomb Dong

[@baguettetheweirdguy2529]

Expand baguette

[@daddyascii9040]

ah so you mean link

[@Chris-tn9bf]

Largen Pole

[@maso7775]

YES! I really like these episodes!

[@bupboi627]

huynh dan WHY DO YOU RECOMEND ASIAN PORN!? *LOL*

[@CoolHilcieni]

Now zelda

[@sagenebula7120]

CoolHilcieni the green guy is link not zelda.😕

[@DanteToska]

I hated it. The Beta64 and Boundary Break segments felt forced

[@barleyman74]

SORRY

[@thepiemaster477]

13:54 "From their very first game, Donkey Kong Country Returns, all the way up to Tropical Freeze."

[@joshuagrahambrown]

That was their first game, right?

[@thepiemaster477]

Josh G-B Donkey Kong Country Returns was the 2010 revival of the series on the Wii.

[@MrSpookersMcGeeThe1st]

I believe he intends the statement to mean "From their very first game (DKC), _then_ Donkey Kong Country Returns, all the way up to Tropical Freeze." Notice the comma between "from their very first game," and "Donkey Kong Country Returns," which you can actually hear during the video as he pauses briefly while speaking. He probably intended that statement to mean a succession of three games, where the "very first game" statement refers to DKC, and the following comma-divided statements are self-explanatory. I mean, he just did a video displaying the mainline games in successive order. He couldn't not know the order they came out in. The way he wrote that sentence is just a little wonky, is all. He probably could've written it as "from their very first game, to Donkey Kong Country Returns, all the way up to Tropical Freeze." Or he could have just explicitly said "from DKC, all the way up to Tropical Freeze," and omitted the DKCR bit, since we'd all get what he's saying. I've spent too much time on this.

[@TorutheRedFox]

that pause can be taken as a colon too

[@suscancer2165]

oof

[@trin4410]

You should make a Link episode! Most Legend of Zelda games are 3d and there's so many of them!

[@trin4410]

Kuma Wilson I was dumb when I wrote that comment

[@albaneedge]

Actually, as of now, there are 9 3D games and 9 2D games, the thing is 3 of the 3D ones play like they were 2D but that doesn't change the fact that they're still made out of 3D meshes

[@Moshugaani]

2:10 I wish they still had the original assets for the Donkey Kong Country games so the could make HD versions with the exact same style.

[@jacio9]

3:43 The lowest poly of the bunch, you know him well

[@JOHNCENA-ji3rm]

HE’S FINALLY BACK TO KICK SOME TAIL!

[@ExtraLifeCrisis]

Zelda Low Poly Pls!!!!!l

[@raphaelkhoury218]

Extra Life Crisis yeah!!!! 😍😍😍😍😉

[@daddyascii9040]

zelda zelda?

[@piojopalma2539]

YES PLEASE!

[@gplgs4640]

HIS NAME IS LINK GODDAMMIT

[@theboy1872]

the game series is zelda

[@Adderallie]

Will this series be continued?

[@BlazertronGames]

I hope so, it doesn't seem like it, though.

[@monarosberg6036]

No

[@SRBluke122]

JT, it is!

[@bayl2329]

Surely they wouldn't forget my boy Spyro, he deserves an episode, right?

[@Trainboy-ee4us]

Bayl or SpongeBob

[@TheEpere15]

How have they not done link yet? It was in their trailer

[@domino6490]

TheEpere15 Or Lara Croft...

[@DatBoi-mo9vc]

Thats a lot of the same damn thing over and over

[@MegaZeta]

Because your bitch ass whined too much, like 99% of the other comments on this series, and that doesn't encourage anyone to do anything you want. Lesson learned, huh?

[@Odds15]

:)

[@ocelotplush1666]

:)

[@329link]

I think diddy in DK64 looks a lot better in game because of how he's animated and the camera position. Some things just look better in motion from a distance.

[@foggyinc724]

do a zelda episode

[@blairgrills5596]

MegaScizor I agree

[@alchemistressanna]

I feel like it's pretty obvious that's already gonna happen

[@CraftingOshawott922]

MegaScizor he is still making a video about it

[@benjamingonzalez8753]

watch low poly trailer there you can see parts of each video, and you can see one part where there is link's model from his N64 game. (was it ocarina of time? idk i don't remember the name)

[@frederickrijnhoud8820]

I absolutely love this series! It's so interesting and the way you bring it is very entertaining. I would love to see an episode on Ratchet & Clank!

[@sleepyshinx174]

a year later and im still waiting for the next episode.

[@MegaZeta]

Shut your self-entitled, whiny bitch ass up.

[@shibeninsu8512]

@@MegaZeta whoa u mad bro?

[@shibeninsu8512]

@Radicola its only been 2 weeks

[@JoshLeGrow]

He waits just long enough in between episodes that I forget about this series

[@LeanneMustafa]

man. i miss this series. i wish it would come back some day

[@DexBolts]

I love this series so far! I don’t know about you but looking at stuff like models of the same character from different games over the years and seeing the poly count of those models is really satisfying to me. Keep up the good work!

[@tangentingtangerines5709]

Hey A+Start, when you inevitably do the Legend of Zelda Episode, can you mention/show the Link model from the DLC in Sonic Lost World? I'm not sure if it's an entirely new model or if it's reused from Skyward Sword. Either way, it's the first time Link was ever seen in a HD game and considering the amount of work sega puts into 3d models it would be nice to know more about it.

[@gayluigi6495]

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat?

[@ezpdude3]

I was wondering about this as well.

[@sillyname3969]

All the other 3d dk games?

[@AmicusOfAdastra]

Green Mario probably not released to the public.

[@gayluigi6495]

TooSpookyWither - TooLazyToUpload I know for a fact it was

[@Serac111]

and tropical freeze...

[@astronomydemon6312]

My two favorite video game channels in one video **wipes away tears** Its beautiful

[@S.KleinArt]

Now with the launch of the Spyro reignited trilogie a Low poly of Spyro would be amazing :D

[@MauriceGS]

What about the Mario Party/Super Smash Bros models, the model from Donkey Kong Jungle Beat or the model from Donkey Konga?

[@spoopygamingdude621]

Super smash bros models and mario party are for another episode

[@TeaganD]

Spoopy Gaming dude But for Mario he used the smash models

[@jtaster6002]

TheBoltMaster and smash 4 technicaly has 4 models for each character as is cause there is the low and high detail for wii u and 3ds versions each heck, why not do the trophy model too

[@Zobi_YT]

Nurb based models have no polygons or geometry. It is all curve based and it calculates the faces across arcs in real time. You can zoom into a nurb model as far as possible and you wont see any pointy bits. It's similar to the difference with vectors and pixels. A line drawn with pixels will pixelate if you zoom in, a line drawn with vectors won't. Also if you're wondering why developers don't just use nurb models instead of polygon models in games it's simply a technology limitation. Nurb models are too intense for a game engine to render in real time. Rare was pretty clever with their use of nurb models though because they were using them to render sprites rather than having them appear realtime in the game.

[@rjd-kh8et]

If there's no polygons or geometry, then what does the wireframe show?

[@Zobi_YT]

Those are the nurbs. It would be easier for me to throw a Wikipedia article at you then try and explain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-uniform_rational_B-spline Basically the nurb 3D models face is comprised of these calculate curved lines as opposed to polygonal meshes who use vertices. Also to break up any confusion 3D programs like Maya do have features that can turn a nurb model into a polygonal mesh but you have to set the number of polygons it will produce and it doesn't work vice versa. So a nurb model can be turned into a polygonal mesh with as many polygons as the software can handle (or optimized to a reasonable amount).

[@spoopygamingdude621]

Is it really that important to look up things and look like a smartass?

[@Zobi_YT]

I didn't look it up I learned it in college. I'm an art college student studying Interactive Game Design as my major and Animation as my minor. I didn't make my post to look like a smart ass I was just simply correcting a misconception people outside of the field have.

[@Zobi_YT]

Toad The Mushroom What about my comments was assholish? I never threw out any insults or insulted anyones intelligence. I didn't mean for my tone to be taken as malicious or belittling. But I guess with text it's a lot harder to read tone than with voice so I can see why people would've thought I'm some know it all jack ass.

[@AtomBrown69]

The DK64 model for Diddy looks like he lives in a trailer park, watches Nascar, and drinks exclusively bud light

[@Sockaa]

Love those Lowpoly videos! I would love for you to make a Lowpoly video about Link from Zelda. Including Toon Link (which is my favorite!) :D

[@franceball6779]

*presses go insane button and starts launching nukes at hyrule*

[@jimmyjohnjoejr]

Socka I couldn't tell

[@rogerglossner9949]

i'M MaD aT YOu fOR HavING aN OpIniON

[@Quazap]

I'd really like to see a Low Poly on Mario Odyssey, if it's possible at the moment. I'd love to see how Mario's costumes work, and maybe some other characters like Peach or Bowser.

[@powerupstate0xf6insupermar52]

Quazap totally agreed, SMO would be awesome if it is possible.

[@logan4844]

There's no way to get models (or any game files for that matter) from any switch game. Don't expect it for another few years.

[@sanicboom6443]

Logan There actually already is. The switch was hacked months ago and dumps of games have already appeared. There's no way to run these dumps, but you can extract game data from them. This is how the battle levels from MK8D were backported to MK8 on the Wii U

[@logan4844]

SANIC BOOM Whoops my bad. I didn't know about that.

[@sanicboom6443]

Kai211 you can just rip them yourself

[@Mudkip971]

Why didn't you cover his Smash bros models?

[@eeveeon4081]

Mudkip971 "...But to look at that, we would have to look at something like Mario Kart or the Smash Brothers games, which we'll take a look at in a separate video."

[@Blazingflare2000]

That doesn't answer why.

[@Crudecoronet]

Blazingflare2000 he will look at them in another episode

[@SuperStarGuy]

That means if he makes a Mario Kart or Smash Bros video, the models would be in those.

[@sheikhheisen]

Morbidcrab Which he deserves.

[@TheLegoMaster261]

As a huge Donkey Kong fan, I gotta say, thank you so much for this amazing video! :D

[@dan_sff]

I only came here for the T-poses

[@turtlegaming5895]

You should do a low poly on Spyro’s games

[@PiegiXD_2319]

Cool

[@MDTravisYT]

IT'S ABOUT TIME U MAKE ANOTHER EPISODE!!!

[@pyro-millie5533]

Dude Donkey Kong Country Returns was such a masterpiece! But I had no idea the original Donkey Kong Country used such a ridiculously cool animation technique for the time!!! I also love that the backgrounds for DKCR are just layers and layers of flat textures that move in parallax as the scene scrolls. That’s such a gorgeous technique and makes so much sense for a game where the camera angle is so tightly controlled. God I need to fix my wii. This game and Super Mario Galaxy 2 were my absolute favorites!

[@zecko16107]

please do more of these. QwQ I live for these. 3d models are sointersting to me and I've watched these a thousand times over.

[@DJR-ss7yz]

FINALLY! a new low poly episode 😁

[@greencapzelda372]

Do Low Poly Kirby next

[@mrgameguy13]

der Synchronizer Uuuuhhhh...Kirby is just a circle...Not sure it would be that interesting.

[@greencapzelda372]

MrGameGuy That's exactly why it would be so interesting. To see how many polygons this circle has. I mean the N64 version was not that much of a circle

[@mrgameguy13]

der Synchronizer Circles are extremely easy to make, so to me, it wouldn't be interesting to see how little skill is needed to make them, also, if I wanted to see a circle, I could just go on Blender and make one really easily.

[@TheRealDman765]

I would love to see that!

[@masterinsan0]

This is one of my favorite series on KZbin. Do Solid Snake next!

[@dezmond9152]

This is one of my favorite series on youtube

[@biggayzai]

My favorite game KZbinrs all working together? I want more of this... yessss... mooooooreeeeeeee...

[@iamathousandapples]

what about Mario Party games Donkey Konga Smash Bros Mario Kart?

[@StitchedXOnXSmiles]

iamathousandapples Did you miss when he specified /main/ games?

[@blu1176]

I'd be really interesting to see Smash Bros Low Poly

[@davidpan1427]

12:45 He explains that he wants to show those models in a separate episode

[@chris_burrows]

Yeh but that's an objective cop out, models from Mario Party and some Sonic Olympics game were analysed in the Mario episode and it was amazing.

[@CillowIGuess]

A+ start, beta 64, and sheez in the same place! I LOVE IT

[@JuanMartinez-np6ff]

A+Start please make more of Low Poly i'm very interested of this series makes me think on how was technology doing through out the years and i subscribe to your channel :)

[@Mike4l6]

Donkey Shovel Kong Knight?

[@bupboi627]

huynh dan WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU *ECKS DEE*

[@spinoanimations1130]

huynh dan wat

[@OriginalPiMan]

Would have liked to have seen a few of the other DK models. Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and the Bongo games.

[@angelpozo7151]

These three are the perfect team A-start: discusses what's in the game Shesez: discusses how it's used Beta 64: discusses what was in the game

[@shaunsocha421]

Damn when you joked about cheap knockoff names for Diddy Kong I didnt think you were gonna talk about Super Kiddy Dong for 12 minutes but it was super informative! Thanks

[@oystahboystah]

T pose Tuesday on a Friday

[@smodr]

Still waiting for link's episode.

[@Ali-wd9dr]

Lowkey wished there was a review of DK’s Smash and Mario Party models from the N64. Always thought it was interesting how many models of him were in the n64 alone and how wildly different they were haha

[@loweffortmidis4004]

I'm kind of disappointed he hasn't made any new low poly videos anymore, I really enjoyed these!

[@Qwerty-zj3rk]

Hey! We finally have another one!

[@Marcara081]

If those are the original wireframes you could have just counted them. Yes, that would suck, but it wouldn't have been impossible. You'd only need to count one half and then double it. Thinking about doing that right now.

[@Luceshoe13]

Marcara081 well he wouldn’t be able to count certain tris at angles not visible

[@Marcara081]

You can use interpolation/extrapolation at that point, along with average density of tris. Point is, he still can. The wireframe shown (if the real one) suffices. You could also create the model according to the silhouette at different angles, thereby recreating the model nearly exactly. Point is, it's not impossible. It's just a bit tedious.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

I'm not sure from looking if it was a wireframe of polys... or just NURBS control points. You could figure it out from the NURBS control points, with a little math and a few good guesses. We don't know the resolution of the tesselation on the NURBS.

[@Breeze926]

While he could have counted it (which would suck) counting half and multiplying it times 2 wouldn't work since the model isn't symmetrical. Counting them sounds like a pain though.

[@flykope9211]

Me: comes back after a fuck ton of time Also me: “Oh damn, it’s over”

[@datcheesycactus9259]

2:30 “Nintendo 64 - 1994”

[@door-kun4891]

MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE

[@nikohoshikuzu]

I have a suggestion for the next episode: Kirby!

[@yammi385]

You haven't made another low poly video in half a year! I bet the next one's going to be great!

[@prickstar123]

With higher poly count becomes great responsability

[@ryleybk2316]

You should really do a Zelda low poly episode. 😁

[@stereocentaur853]

RIP low poly

[@lugiaanimates]

I love seeing all the characters t posing

[@skumomcbee1255]

Just learned about NURBS thanks to this video!

[@aracelisanchez252]

It’s been over almost a year and there still isn’t a new episode of this shoe

[@manuelx379]

Damn...you love throwing shade at dk64

[@maxley.]

Happy one year anniversary dk low poly!

[@TinTin12121]

I haven’t watched you in a while but I’m surprised d you haven’t hit one million yet!

[@Official_Anonymous]

Do Link from the Legends of Zelda franchise next please!

[@jeroenb699]

Anybody else hoping that there will be a game like Donkey Kong Country Returns and Tropical Freeze on the switch?

[@LucasDanielCab5]

Conveniently, this and Boundary Break are 2 series I've started rewatching recently lmao

[@komitkrash]

Damn finnaly a new episode

[@aracellybaires5615]

how about a low poly episode for : samus from metroid pickman link luigi tails or megaman or pac man :D

[@Volcanic_Rave]

Link was in the low poly trailer, it’s definitely gonna happen.

[@captaingarlic3767]

Aracelly Baires dafuq is a "pickman"

[@powerupstate0xf6insupermar52]

hahtdaugs He probably means Pikmin.

[@eeveeon4081]

What other Samus is there? You don't say the other character's games. The first two Pikmin games use the same models, so it would be comparing TWO versions of each model as an episode.

[@greenesmyfavcolor9742]

You forgot the most important game of all time! donkey konga... 😂

[@egon3705]

3. 1 and 2 just had impressive sprites.

[@lenamccauley9832]

HE'S FINALLY HERE PREFORMING FOR YOU

[@sonictimm]

Lose seeing new episodes of this show coming out again! Keep it up!

[@SatanDotExe]

You missed the Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart DS and possibly Super Smash models. Probably more too... I love this series, but the off-topic boundary breaking to include the collaborations also felt a bit forced. Again, this is meant to be constructive criticism, I love your content, just want to make that clear. I could be wrong about all of that.

I agree, especially since he didn't even cover spin off games. Felt very forced.

[@Rubytranscutie]

he also forgot the skylander models for DK and diddy kong

[@eeveeon4081]

To quote the episode, "...But to look at those, we would have to look at something like Mario Kart or the Smash Brothers games, which we'll take a look at in a separate video." 12:48

[@eeveeon4081]

And how would you transition to other segments? I can't think of a better way than what he did.

[@luigigamerocker]

Eeveeon you could...i dunno, not do it? The other low poly episodes are great because they're focused. The others are great and all but this wasn't a great low poly episode. Very light on content and examination all to include the other two. :/

[@YourAverageLink]

C'mon we need Low Poly Link!

[@barleyman74]

You can't get a link poly

[@betaplay2914]

Best collab ever

[@retrorebootmusic]

5:12 for some reason i imagined him looking at the camera smiling.

[@faxiok]

10:35 FATALITY

[@londonxrainn]

Its been a year! Where is the next episode of this series?

[@HideousAngel]

Your videos are awesome!

[@savawhatever3092]

asserting dominance: the series

[@GothicServerNumberTwo]

EXPAND DONG

[@jonjackson2188]

You should do link from LOZ for the next episode of low poly

[@DebugCat]

who is link you play as zelda

[@juanpa_pt]

I really enjoy this series of videos and would really enjoy TLOZ low poly

[@reezwave]

Please do more of this low poly series

[@UnshornKeyboardist]

You forgot GameCube...

[@peen6619]

i love your profile pic

[@UnshornKeyboardist]

Why don't you marry it?

[@peen6619]

ok. where will we marry? no not you, the gamecube...

[@UnshornKeyboardist]

Idk

[@zigzag4491]

And smash bros

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

WHERE IS THE LINK ONE

[@misteridiot]

I wanna see you take a looksie at the KIngdom Hearts series. I just have so many memories of KH2, them handling globe like crystals and all the while my eyes are glued to the jagged edges of them. They always seemed to have trouble with circular edges, like they hurriedly tried to fix everything right at the last minute.

[@RocketRidge]

we need more of this ;-;

[@jaycub4711]

I wanted to see DK from jungle beat :(

[@rextonk.7439]

You should do starfox low poly

[@RackerTheRascalMashup]

Bruce Heyman How he gonna rip models from a snes game?

[@wolflinkk]

JUAN morto tudo a wii u exists to *hint* *hint* *wink* *wink*

[@jaimedelena5575]

The graphics are amazing

[@FletcherReedsRandomness]

“It kinda looks like a knockoff version of a real Diddy Kong.” That was...certainly...a sentence you wrote down and spoke into a microphone.