Aba CLASHES w/ Panelist, LEAVES Stream In Protest

Last night on Destiny ft. Erin, Lav and Aba
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[@wrusst]

Aba: we as minoritys are sick of lefty women talk over us and telling us what we need Vs listening Lefty women : Doesn't listen and carries on talking over him and telling him what he needs

[@mharris4264]

Ironically they said minority but they were talking about women that are streamers, they were the minority at the top. But Destiny's orbiters tend to use black people in every example or analogy. Then ironically she was Mexican. Next you have Destiny and some other guy explaining what kind of conversations are had in the minority communities to a minority. Lmao feel bad for Aba cause if he could see her he would've got his point on with a different joke.

[@wrusst]

@@mharris4264 well I was paraphrasing but if you want to split the hairs . He said black community when talking about the rappers and he said most minority communities and not all.

[@hmoneygetter2029]

These kind of liberals are going turn every minority vote away from the dems so, cheers to her 😌

[@lr44x13]

Then she goes on how "I just call out aba on his bullshit"

[@tellmesomething2412]

🤣🤣🤣

[@handsomebear.]

For those who wish to keep their sanity intact: Aba joins at 57:17 and leaves at 1:01:35 .

[@gahhahwbehehwh9725]

alhamd lilah

[@ericapaquette9624]

Thank you and now I shall never watch this trash again 🙂

[@dogdoubledown]

bless you

[@lc7269]

praise be brother/sister 🙏

[@EddiePReacts]

Thank you i wasnt watching this whole thing. I cant stand the performative bs

[@SuperRainbol]

Honestly Destiny should just mute someone when they refuse to let someone finish a point over and over again

[@angelg8445]

His point- that “minorities” or BIPOC(myself and Erin included), shouldn’t learn new things ab how their wrong minded views affect their communities and society, and should excuse their ignorance in the name of “agency”. NO, it’s so obvious Erin and her progressive talking points scare ppl Like Aba, and then they blame leftists for feeling insecure ab having to change and learn ab feminism/economics/trans issues and valid political or sociological theories. Also the notion tht the “lefts” messaging is to blame for increased support for Maga, capitalisms ills and reactionary is absurd.

[@neubaufahrzeug9339]

He won't do it he's on his anti Misogyny arc where it seems like he lets a ton of shit fly for his female guest that he normally doesn't.

[@worteltel2914]

They should charge 50 cents/word. Make them pay after every 15 minutes. Make them thinking before speak. Make Em Counts. Rambling for 20 minutes for 3 sentences that i can summarize and speak it under 2 minutes. 💀

[@PityOnlyFools]

@@worteltel2914 This is legit a fantastic idea

[@worteltel2914]

@@PityOnlyFools fr fr 😂

[@dannysha6458]

Lavs ability to be wrong on every topic is quite impressive

[@novac1990]

I've gotten to where I just skip past her at this point. I've never done that with any other speaker.

[@tubblestop414]

Why does destiny always defend her?

[@Alvah707]

@@tubblestop414 because they relate in the fact that destiny is a womans name

[@thecaffeinatednarwhal3990]

@@tubblestop414 $$$, literally same as Mr.Girl, its content farming

[@chimpwimp9407]

They fucked. Stephen has a dog in the fight.

[@maouoreo]

i think its crazy that Aba continually comes out on top in these conversations, yet Steven can't prove Destiny isn't a girl's name.

[@KamiAnimeS1]

Yup

[@Vashthestampede967]

Even if he does he still has his stripper arc to deal with.

[@Marip0sa.]

Dude these are always hilarious

[@JakeStarz.]

My niece name is Destiny💀

[@Crow-T-German-Robot]

Cut her some slack, she's only a woman. Am I right guys? Mhahaha.

[@godly04]

I'm starting to think Destiny is building a harem of mentally ill chicks lmao.

[@codycigar4409]

She who shall not be named is the final boss

[@layabout]

always has been, remember denims?

[@Kazamatigoh1221]

😂

[@BowserStrange]

Ohhh shit 😂

[@colinstewart3531]

This is really just the Misogyny Arc Mark 2.

[@Almsavi]

How can she lack even a modicum of self awareness? She spent all that time talking about race and misogyny, specifically bringing up black men, and the second a black man comes in she immediately proves his point by doing the most to not let him say his piece. Thanks for the future Aba and preach content.

[@jerichojones2722]

cant wait for the aba and preach video about her.

[@BowserStrange]

@@jerichojones2722 You think they will?😂

[@jerichojones2722]

@@BowserStrange honestly probably not since they already discussed people like this a fair bit, but it would still be interesting to see them discuss this.

[@BowserStrange]

@@jerichojones2722 It would honestly.

[@overtherenowaitthere]

Isn’t she like 19 ? I’m pretty sure she’s one of the students at UT that came on to his change my mind. This is probably the first time she’s had these conversations and she’s arguing with 30 some odd year olds who are super dramatic lmao. Hopefully she’s got some information out of this cuz all the lessons were packaged with a lot of sass. She did better at the panel with destiny one on one. She’s younger and also at least politically has more in common with aba and destiny than sneako. Guess which one unirioncally interacts with Fuentes and his community? Then aba says she’s the worst type of political spectrum, but won’t even get near Fuentes and shit. I think he still doesn’t internact with sneako.

[@cooper23231]

Aba being there for like 2 minutes was the best part sadly.

[@grandvage]

whats the time stamp, no fucking way i can watch 2 hours

[@cooper23231]

@@grandvage 57:15 he doesn't stay too long because she's too focused on cutting him off.

[@R_J8]

This is pretty much the current formula of the last 5-6 Destiny/Aba videos, not August’ fault.

[@cooper23231]

@@R_J8 seems like people just can't wait and stfu when they talk about the black issue. Always the non black people that are fighting to cut off black people that talk about black culture. They proceed to then say that it's not their place to talk about these issues. "I'm not the one to talk about the issue but let me cut you off real quick"

[@BowserStrange]

@@cooper23231 😂😂😂 We all was taught the same poison…

[@jewelsvermin8866]

The anti misogyny arc is going about as well as the war on drugs

[@dmvbawse4265]

I came and saw no lies here.

[@JessENation15]

@@dmvbawse4265 I came too. Hard.

[@ulysses7653]

I'd like to congratulate misogyny on winning the War on Misogyny (19th century - 21st century)

[@nikwaggoner2480]

Better actually.

[@ddandymann]

Yeah who'd have thought that bringing on a bunch of crazy women for the sake of farming content off them wouldn't improve the audiences impression of women.

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

Erudite actually has based takes. It’s nothing to do with being hot and female. Lab seems spoiled and she can’t handle criticism.

[@__-bz7wh]

100 percent true. Most of this misogyny being complained about in DGG is a ghost.

[@milkmanlolzyo8658]

Eurdite is so based that her being hot doesn’t even effect how based she is

[@jovonn8303]

alot of people are based. lets not lie and say that at least the majority of the reason shes where she is is because she has stayed around destiny and shes perceived as internet attractive.

[@reinhartdagr8108]

Stop saying based unironically, I really hope you don’t say that irl.

[@hayd3n98]

@@jovonn8303 alot of people are "internet attractive." lets not lie and say that at least the majority of the reason shes where she is is because she has stayed around destiny and shes perceived as based.

[@Zenbon111]

Everytime I hear lav speak and never take a clear position on anything I actually feel ill. She offers nothing but frustration, confusion, and being ultra charitable to the worst people possible. This Anti Mysogony Arc is gonna head to Destiny's Mental Health Awareness Arc.

[@dylangeorgeson6580]

The anti misogyny arc is working, Destiny has had way more unhinged male guests on the show and not once are people going "lmao male moment!" He's just means testing the audience

[@jackhawk8997]

@@dylangeorgeson6580 both extremes aren't good, it gets grating to hear both extremes

[@toweltowel4969]

@@dylangeorgeson6580 if that’s thee case why is mr girl almost universally disliked by the community? (other than being a girl)

[@DeadpoolX9]

@@jackhawk8997 I think the point is that both genders are fucking insane.

[@DeadpoolX9]

@@dylangeorgeson6580 because we are all fucking males. It’s pointless to make a self describe moment because we all intrinsically KNOW that Like mr girl shit We don’t go “lol male moment” because we are males and we know what the fuck he’s doing. We other women because contrary to jokes we are not women hence we use it as a point of reference to get our bearings but I think a good takeaway from this anti misogyny arc especially during NNN is that women are basically men

[@Fergit_]

Aba was right to leave, nobody should put up with this.

[@KnightEnjoyer69]

Yeah, destiny should get less hateable ladys. So the ant misogeny arc works out.

[@Xfghstryhfghfg]

@@KnightEnjoyer69 It's looks more like Misandry arc

[@KnightEnjoyer69]

@@Xfghstryhfghfg yeah, some of these girls are saying some wild shit. Its funny tho.

[@sargeteg5927]

And it was the right lesson as she acted with more respect to others in later panels. What a surprise that people can improve when you stop coddling them and not shield them from criticism.

[@andrewohoro]

Lav’s problem is that she’s so afraid of being backed into a corner that she refuses to stand by a statement after she makes it, even if the statement wasn’t wrong or controversial. Typical Lav conversation: L “1+1=2” D “so you think 1+1=2?” L “well I wouldn’t say that, why are you putting words in my mouth?” D “why wouldn’t you say that? 1+1 does equal 2” L “I wasn’t disagreeing with you, why are you gaslighting me?” Why does Destiny keep letting her on?

[@darkangel2327]

Probably a harem thing

[@soappy1720]

Simp. That's why

[@dylangeorgeson6580]

people hate watch lmao, he knows people are going to tune in to see what stupid thing Lav says

[@soappy1720]

@@dylangeorgeson6580 who is lav? The Mexican socialist? Idk, its hard to listen to honestly. And i sorta like destiny even though he has a girls name

[@BananaMana69]

Because she makes him money, people hatewatch her. I dint think Destiny cares to bang her he probably has like 50+ DMs from extremely attractive women in his various social media accounts who wanna bang at any given time.

[@erodey3133]

57:15 Aba comes in

[@ricofinesse6751]

thank you for this..😂

[@ChenKaifeng]

Thanks

[@Reesetopher]

Thank god I was 20 Minutes in

[@pewdiepie7972]

Proof not all hero’s wear capes

[@babaloo526]

My man.

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

If you have a hard time separating real criticism from misogyny, then maybe you don't get what it really is?

[@imyournme6632]

Which is funny cause women criticizing other men is never met with "This is sexist" responses at all. I wonder why.

[@Weltinventar]

@@imyournme6632 Partly because women face criticism that men wouldn't get?

[@raguellagrande7344]

@@imyournme6632 the word is misandry

[@imyournme6632]

@@Weltinventar And vice versa. You guys have to make up your mind if you want equal treatment or equalization.

[@MrAlwaysOnTen]

@@imyournme6632 cuz men will view that as weak for whatever bullshit reason (some don’t even know how to spell misandry tho) the amount of men being sexually harassed and just letting it go as if women have the power over them and they won’t be believed if they spoke up and also that other men and women won’t care is Fucking insane

[@deeky1239]

I would leave as well if I had to come onto a platform that put women on a pedestal like this. Aba called it out, good on him.

[@Hubin12]

The dgg revolt begins

[@boinkdoink31]

he is playing for all the sides for views and new fanboys he doesnt have a one original opinion about anything.

[@ClipAlien]

@@boinkdoink31 .

[@0_oblivion_02]

@@boinkdoink31 No

[@dddestruction527]

the way he excuses that black lady who hates black dudes annoys tf out of me

[@siege1289]

"That's just who I am." Please stop having Erin on when she can't let others speak and doesn't want to own up to it.

[@FrostLordOni]

The fact that Lav keeps agreeing with and empathizing with these insane, abrasive, dismissive orbiters who can’t let another guest talk for more than 2 picoseconds before interrupting because they think their opinion is the only one that matter should really be a wake up call for both Destiny and Lav. If you always find yourself thinking “this person who can’t have an adult conversation is just like me” then maybe you need to reevaluate your personality

[@firstnamelastname5612]

Lav stuck up for aba and called arin white presenting

[@loopymomy2532]

@@firstnamelastname5612 isn't arin white I'm so confused

[@melikmourali2072]

@@loopymomy2532 Apparently not, she's at least 1% something else

[@loopymomy2532]

@@melikmourali2072 bro everyone is 1% something else. I might as well be 25% middle eastern

[@firstnamelastname5612]

@@loopymomy2532 she's Asian/mexican

[@__-bz7wh]

Insufferable woman. Not because she's a woman. It just so happens. Coincidences happen, okay?

[@JackPorter]

no they don't

[@Dinofrogg]

@@JackPorter Insufferable people are hated because they're insufferable. You can easily separate the two unless you think woman are insufferable.

[@JackPorter]

@@Dinofrogg Coincidences don't happen

[@Canoweissmon]

@@Dinofrogg To the trained eye there are no coincidences.

[@menace2society759]

@@JackPorter you should ask you mom about your birth and she would disagree

[@Kyubii01]

Everytime Aba leaves the chat , it’s less interesting . Aba actively listens and pushes and pulls with honesty . While a lot of people in the chat are being agenda based

[@DeadpoolX9]

Ideologues

[@xxmujinscxx3516]

I am falling asleep on a Thailand train after aba left.

[@lisasmith1798]

Aba refuses to move from him perspective I saw his “ apology “ after calling a girl a whale and it wasn’t genuine at all

[@mmor7380]

@@lisasmith1798 shame is necessary in society

[@ronnie5329]

@@lisasmith1798 women who are fat dont get special treatment for being women

[@horrorqueen3577]

I'm so done with this constant cry of misogynyfrom some of these women. It's a joke. Smh.

[@pinnacull]

If I read Lav in the title or description or hear her voice I am clicking off the video faster than you can say "destiny is a girl's name".

[@imfelty]

At this point, same

[@rriveror27]

My question for Erin would be when has Lav ever been compassionate when debating someone she disagrees with?

[@ronswanson1410]

Lav = Baba Yaga

[@wiredvibe1678]

Well lav is an "empath" so what do you expect?

[@TheKomentor]

Destiny should start thinking twice about allowing Lav into these conversations because it is beginning to affect the quality and the very listenability of his content. I love Destiny debates and can sit through hours and hours of them, but in this one I had to fast-forward through all the parts where Lav was talking because of her annoying self-absorbed behaviour where she becomes defensive when people disagree with her and tries to gaslight them. Also the way she said Destiny, Erin and Pixie were 3v1'ing her when they were just talking was just delusional. Let her do her stuff on her own channel and people interested can go and watch her there.

[@ab-hx8qe]

@@TheKomentor this, lave needs to be cut loose the same way max was.

[@ember4303]

@@ronswanson1410 why is this so funny to me haha

[@Ducketto]

Analisia said that her marital status doesn't matter. But she had no problem saying white people didn't have a voice in the discussion either. (Unless they were agreeing with her) How could you discredit a white persons thought in the discussion because they lack the experience or relation yet she talks about the plight of black marriage but she lacks the experiences well?

[@S.B__]

Afraid to take accountability

[@trevon444]

You can’t talk about this argument for hours with hate and resentment in your voice if you have no personal experience in the matter. I’d bet any amount she’s a bitter single mom that a random black guy pumped and dumped lmao

[@sammykent5752]

Also remember how Annalicia straight up asked AJB about her martial/relationship status when she disagreed with her? And when she got called out for it, she just double downed and was like (no I'm allowed to do it because blah blah blah). The f*cking hypocrisy.

[@juaritos2724]

I’ve seen divestors do this a lot in the comments and check this out, the same lady that was allowed to talk down on the brothers was spotted on one of Destinys older videos defending a known neo-nazi. Which was no surprise, they’re doing it for the wrong reasons and the sisters don’t catch it or care I guess. My condolences good sir.

[@b.a3595]

They all said that. It was constantly highlighted by nearly everyone on the stream ( black&white) whenever Lav had an input in the discussion.

[@m.elshr2a9y81]

Every time I watch a destiny video about misogyny the more i like misogyny and the more i want to buy sun glasses and cigar and move to Romania 😂😂

[@gundhamtanaka8202]

Erin seems to think any criticism of any woman whatsoever is just misogyny. Perfect example was when Destiny told her to use inflections in her voice when using sarcasm, and she somehow made that about her being a woman and not the fact that her voice is flatter than my hank hill ass

[@cngotham4111]

She made a joke bruh lol.

[@reinhartdagr8108]

I’m willing to bet the clothes I have on rn that was sarcasm/a joke, it’s not that serious

[@kavanasama4365]

It was definitely a joke, but I get that it was hard to tell because she doesn't use inflections in her voice when using sarcasm.

[@xp8969]

@@kavanasama4365 bruh, that WAS the joke 😂

[@imyournme6632]

@@cngotham4111 It's an irony joke in itself because the reason she even thought of this joke is exactly what the person you replied to is talking about.

[@ozzy7609]

“hur dur everything is misogyny” always the little girls with no life or career experience talking about systemic this and that.

[@AR-qo4zz]

Anti misogyny arc has the same affect as the British trying to stop the spread of venomous cobras in India. Good one Destiny! Fresh and Fit have done less to make me see women in a worse light than the ones you have on stream lmao...

[@tokijpn]

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ your not even lying is the crazy part

[@triplemoyagames4195]

Facts

[@arjunravichandran1768]

Jesus, you're so right. I'm so appaled that the chicks on F&F seems tamer than the ones who show up here.

[@griffiththechad9483]

Seriously, and I’m wondering if Destiny is aware of this or even cares. He literally does what people hate on Kevin Samuels for doing. Bringing on these bozos who supposedly only represent the minority.

[@juaritos2724]

@@griffiththechad9483 “Supposedly” this is why we refer these ladies as “modern women”. The new age is here.

[@glo7390]

Aba is right to leave she proved his point by not even letting him finish a sentence she’s debate bro combative for no reason It’s crazy how she acknowledges she’s annoyingly stubborn but acts like it’s something to be proud of

[@SaggyMarley]

Destiny should honestly stop having people on that doesnt let others speak

[@jayclearmen411]

ugh.. i’m getting Flashbacks! my sister is just like this..i love the girl to bits but, jeez she loves to hear herself talk an…laugh at her own jokes! she thinks she’s funny she’s NOT I’ve told her this and never laughed at anything she said. If i try to put my 2cents in or ask a question the convo at any point she’ll say “let me finish” gaslight me by saying..i always cut her off it’s SOO FREAKING INFURIATING! Cuz 95% convos is me listening and not saying much anything…wordlessly nodding And I know i don’t cut her off cuz i count to 5 in my head before i try to speak…it’s CRAZY! Once I was so mad I stopped talking to her for weeks because, I overheard her saying to my brother behind my back i was A “armchair psychologist” cuz i listen and don’t say much of anything…🙄And we had it out..and she didn’t apologize.. she Now wonders why I avoid conversations with her..I keep it short & polite. Cuz if not she’ll drag on an on about some story layered in “passive aggressive subtext”…an she wanted to talk about roeVwade an i Shut that sh!tdown fast.. soon as i heard her condescend to me.. i know instantly No good will come of this… i’m an aggressive person by nature so I don’t do passive aggression at all.. I HATE IT I’m Direct.

[@wanded]

@@jayclearmen411 they end up like that because most men are simps and would fake laugh for her cause boobs we don't get that attitude, we know fully well that if we insert ourselves into a group of people we have to be interesting and not annoying or we'll get clapped and ignored

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

@@wanded Yeah it can often lead to women who have the "all men are pigs mentality" because they think all men want is sex when in reality if you're fun to hang around men will hang around you regardless. The only reason they think that's the case is because they're not worth hanging around and any dude who hangs around them only wants to fuck lol

[@appleseed4672]

Reminds me of people who have "no filters", use it as an excuse to be assholes and are even proud about it, used to have a "friend" like that in high school

[@despain8726]

I completely understand, and as a minority, I’m with him 100%. These people are exhausting to talk to, and their form of racism is the worst. Best to just let them talk to a wall.

[@AlbowaSinema]

My point exactly.

[@chuckycheesechucky]

What other labels are you?

[@chpgmr1372]

Their form of racism is like....like when you are hungry but you dont know you are hungry but everyone else can see that you are hungry by the way you are acting so they tell you to go eat something and all you do is deny that you are hungry until you eat something and then you realize you were just hungry.

[@manniefresh3425]

They will hate you if you disagree with them on anything

[@peezman4289]

I feel exactly what Aba was saying and it makes me so frustrated. It definitely has pushed me away from being left leaning. And I just don’t feel like these girls understand men at all lol even in the slightest

[@fyngolnoldor4891]

I'm really trying not to think of Lav as dumb but when you hear these conversations in which she literally seems to not understand the meaning of the words she uses and ends up contradicting herself over and over again I just can't really think of any other valid explanation.

[@Stylonuum]

You don't have to try so hard, as this pattern isn't a coincidence. She is VERY dumb.

[@SwingIsLife]

Destiny might be a worse moderator than prime. “Omg what am I gonna do in this impossible position, I guess I’ll just awkwardly laugh through it all and keep building my factory while not muting a problem person, teehee”

[@iz2333]

You have to understand man, the factory must grow. You can't stop, nobody can. THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[@eddieisfiction442]

he’s festering drama on purpose.

[@BallsMolosovich]

I thought this was an _anti_ misogyny arc

[@pjtorresjr]

Steven's infinite patience with Erin's contrarian ramblings has to be categorized as a super power. Impressive!

[@herzeleid9525]

She’s cute

[@douglas_fir]

@@herzeleid9525 She's not. She's a mid tier mullato at best.

[@pjtorresjr]

@@herzeleid9525 Destiny's both a girls name and a misogynist confirmed!

[@Petemossfunguy]

@@herzeleid9525 this is your response? gross bro. it's not too late to delete this

[@matthewbarr6685]

@@herzeleid9525 lol but you'll always be wrong and it will drive you insane.

[@sirnonapplicable]

31:34. That's as far as I can go on this one. Every word Erin speaks drips with unearned pretentiousness. Even when she says things with which I agree, it still pisses me off. Steven has the patience of a saint.

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

Lasted longer than me, I listened for 15 minutes then started searching for when Aba showed up

[@juaritos2724]

Wait a minute, you’re supposed to be disingenuous, so you won’t get labeled as misogynistic. 😂😂

[@iliilliliiliilliliiliillil9137]

Absolutely cannot stand that chic

[@crayothewarrior7713]

Aba joins in at around 57:00

[@jackhawk8997]

@@juaritos2724 Basically dildo riding women to not be labeled a misogynistic for simply disagreeing or giving pushback

[@limitedhangoutlive]

I like Eurodite because she’s well spoken, well researched, and has a high social IQ. It’s the same reasons I’d like a male streamer or dislike them if they lack these traits, like I do with Max.

[@0doublezero0]

Yes, but to have all of those you are drawing from a small minority. The average person even in real life doesn't have all of these traits.

[@adrianbrodin1319]

Where'd you find her IQ info?

[@cdubsb3831]

@@adrianbrodin1319he gave the test.

[@outlaster3431]

Someone in this chate he claimed that this expectations for women only applies because they are trying to garner a male audience they can choose to just be normal and then try to garner a female audience but they don't, uf they did it wouldn't need the same requirement

[@JustGotALife]

Erudite is a grifter

[@zwartesoep2010]

How is it that the woman F&F bring on aren't as combative and anti-male as destiny's orbiters

[@kingsnake8178]

From what little I've seen of both, F&F are a lot more aggressive in how they moderate their show, particularly with the women. Destiny on the other hand, has come off as (imo) too patient, bordering on passive as a moderator

[@delam617]

The women that F&F screen the show for are pick me girls. They agree with F&F that women are stupid and should be cheated on and whatever other trash F&F says about women because they all they want is to get simp followers on their instagram for clout. It works. Destiny brings on "unique" "interesting" women. Who end up being mentally ill with bad manners.

[@Wavyso]

Because they actually put those women in check. Women only get combative if you don’t check em and let them act like they run the show which destiny allows.

[@beurksman]

„It‘s impossible for men to feel powerless around a woman.“ 🙄

[@jackhawk8997]

Biological gender moment

[@ChichiNaka]

There's better discourse in a 7th grade class learning how to have debate/conversation/arguments for the first time than all these people getting paid to do it

[@todorstoynov2362]

Why is Erin so interuptive with Aba? Like, she does tend to jump in rather quickly when talking to everyone, but it is only with Aba where she purposefully doesn't let him say a word.

[@nkumar1]

Didn't learn basic manners probably

[@Byorin]

She seems to think she has a better take on racism than he does, so she’s dismissive. Other than that, her dynamic with Destiny is fairly combative, although it could still be considered friendly. Aba doesn’t play that nonsense, and I’m willing to bet Erin knows that and doesn’t mind poking the bear, as the saying goes.

[@nkumar1]

"that's just how I am" shows zero accountability

[@loopymomy2532]

@@nkumar1 she's the most racist minority ngl

[@SaggyMarley]

Because she’s completely on the wrong and has a childbrain

[@raguellagrande7344]

It is like she is intentionally trying to instigate as a means to win points when someone reacts to it. This is toxic. It is also disruptive to conversation - and she does it so often that even destiny thinks they are arguing and disagreeing. She's not even disagreeing, she is being confrontation and offensive on purpose. I'm actually starting to believe many people are coming on his platform to properly poke and prod and provoke destiny instead of having an honest conversation. And it is weird that Lav needs to be right by making destiny wrong, and then backs up and feigns ignorance. She pretends not to realize that interjection mid sentence with exception is arguing against, disagreeing. These are immature ways to go about discussion, they are ways to seek attention. She said "well i don't know" So many times when asked to pin herself to an oomph while sounding so certain in her convictions when she say vague and insulting statements. It's intentionally slippery. I find it deceptive.

[@R_J8]

I want to see just a panel of Destiny, Erudite, Aba and Dan. That would be the based podcast.

[@zaktilzer5130]

It would be 3 people picking on Dan.

[@EX-Flashkick]

@@zaktilzer5130 good.

[@ozzym6308]

Great, sensible group but would be low on the drama. Destiny lucked into the wack jobs and will continue to lean into them for the entertainment. I can't even lie, I've been enjoying the fuckery

[@Blank9458]

@@zaktilzer5130 so the usual

[@fibblestix]

Yea could call it the D E A D STREAM or BRAIN D E A D, just using their initials like that, I love it

[@b.a3595]

Erin is addicted to ‘gotcha moments’

[@evergreent]

No way Erin used a 1993 commercial about telling kids to listen to their parents as a way to condemn Barkley's advice today.

[@campbellsoup93]

"She had to me, femcel energy but I know that- that woman has a man. I'm positive" Destiny explains why she was evasive about her relationship status "Probing into her personal life is kind of irrelevant. Like I feel like whoever was asking her was trying to get a gotcha on her...as if that's some argument against what she's saying" ... ... For real? You were doing the exact same thing. You don't get to be like "why she acting like a femcel, I know she got herself a man'' and then turn around and act like those guys were being sexist or something for asking her about the SAME thing. You was trying to get a gotcha too.

[@EX-Flashkick]

Shes not even there

[@donaldducksdad5920]

"I love that for them" and "I love that for you" are literally always said bitterly through clenched teeth.

[@pyruseon1377]

anti misogyny arc backfiring hardcore

[@pyruseon1377]

and i did listen to the whole thing

[@DonCori8]

The thing about "Women have to be smart, beautiful, charismatic etc. to be popular", It is right when woman wants to be popular with a male audience. But it is the same when a man wants to be popular with a female audience. So my point is It is sexes and standards issue, but not necessarily an inequality/misogyny issue.

[@outlaster3431]

Yeah this is completely true and the stupid part is that they dont have to cater to the male fan base they are choosing, if they wanted to make female based content they can but they don't and they somehow feel entitled to the main fanbase I think it's because in retrospect men are more likely to spend more money on content like this overall

[@griffiththechad9483]

Lav saying woman care about mens feelings gave me an aneurysm. I guess incels, redpillers, and the manosphere doesn’t get hate in any way.

[@jackhawk8997]

They just don't like men that are losers and I don't mean the ones that actually are POS but the ones who are struggling to being accepted in society, the ones who are unironically treated like shit for whatever reason that is out if their control

[@sub-harmonik]

women claim they give a shit about men yet will often defend being inconsiderate of men and male experience in practice.

[@eddieisfiction442]

in her defense, she said men, not those weirdos.

[@Cybertech134]

@@eddieisfiction442 Also in her defense, any woman who doesn't adhere to my ideas of what a woman should be isn't a real woman and instead a weirdo, therefore it makes sense that she doesn't care about those men cause she's a subhuman.

[@eddieisfiction442]

@@Cybertech134 lol guess we found the incel…

[@Bori.1776]

I have no idea why Destiny doesn’t mute people who won’t shut up. It absolutely ruins some otherwise good conversations

[@ON-ry8iw]

He needs to mute tf outta people. It’s not productive and if people wanna be disrespectful then they gotta be treated like kids

[@eddieisfiction442]

he does it on purpose fyi… he has the opposite intentions you want

[@Bori.1776]

@@eddieisfiction442 It’s just not conducive to proper dialogue

[@drangc0bex119]

I’m not totally convinced Lav and Darius don’t workshop these confrontations

[@WeAretheWalrii]

@Camarade Toff did you really need him to 'admit' that to understand that's what he was doing?

[@SeeMeRot]

Damn, I respect Aba for recognizing the BS conversation this it gonna be and bouncing.

[@Byorin]

“Erin, you’ve got to turn down the combativeness.” Nah, it’ll never happen. Some people, perhaps most, have no problems talking over others because they’ve never been punched in the face for running their mouth. It’s something you learn about at a young age, unless you’re protected by society.

[@christopherwigfall6518]

Yeah they wanna cry about everything but woman can say literally anything when being half as big a dick as a dude would get you crushed. Men rism getting hit for dumb ideas and social mistakes

[@zepar6076]

Amen

[@gahhahwbehehwh9725]

If you would punch someone for talking over you then you should go see a therapist, you have isssues

[@BanditTools]

Also helps when the internet coddles your every word and action. Smh.

[@bellzhellz5922]

Well that's how boys learn, you cannot do that to women, that's misogynistic apparently

[@FunchShun40k]

Lav unironically saying she feels like she's going insane is comedy gold

[@adubfree]

1:44:05 Destiny: “Lav who has the best burgers, Burger King or McDonald’s” Lav: “See cows are grass fed but that doesn’t mean that’s all they eat and I really fee-feel like I want to just eat grass with the cows, ice cream also comes from cows” Destiny: “That has nothing to do with what I asked you “ Lav: “I think it does”

[@currentcommerce4774]

bruh this collage commie is literally the gaslight girlboss

[@tmsphere]

White woman be quiet for 3 seconds impossible difficulty.

[@Elitistt]

💀

[@johnrossi6189]

To be fair Pixie was being quiet, she is usually respectful and doesn't try to cut anyone off and tries to get time to talk by asking. Lav is *horrible* at it though and Erin is Hispanic but is also horrible at it lmfao.

[@patternrecon5271]

Open borders for Israel

[@juaritos2724]

@@johnrossi6189 Erin may Hispanic but she’s heavily Americanized, it takes one to know one.

[@johnrossi6189]

@@juaritos2724 ok? I still didn't say anything wrong. Her being americanized doesn't change her being Hispanic..

[@connorwalton1]

Erin is Lav 2.0. She disagrees > makes a joke of the other side counterpoints > backtracks on it saying she agreed all along > and then argues on the exact same point again

[@BowserStrange]

Really?

[@conot4006]

Erin - "Bringing up the misogyny against Brittany is great but bringing up the community support for NotSoErudite is actual misogyny." Hmm, kind of seems like circular reasoning. Misogyny is obviously misogyny and anti-misogyny is also obviously misogyny. Don't you understand everything is misogyny, I am always the victim and there is nothing you can do about it. The community likes NotSoErudite because she doesn't act like a women and that can't be misogynistic because I'm a women saying it.

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

What a joke, "women face harsher criticism online than men!" Yeaaaah NO! At worst they face AS MUCH, and that is rare.

[@lilsstrunks]

women don't live in reality, it's not surprising she would claim something like this

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

@@lilsstrunks To some degree that is true, we've pushed them onto pedestals, and when they come online - That shit doesn't fly quite like it used to. Because men aren't as likely to try ingratiate themselves, by treating them like bombs with short fuses. There's no cuddling online. But that is the real difference for a woman online. They might from time to time, experience life as a man does. And life is not so easy when you don't live in that ivory tower anymore, and there is nothing to protect them from the unwashed masses. The reality men live in, where everything is NOT rainbows, roses and sunshine. Where you get shit for nothing all the time, because ppl are often assholes.

[@juaritos2724]

Destiny is low-key red-pilling his community😂😂😂 Good Job Ladies 👏

[@lilplayboi3]

I love destiny, I believe aba does as well. But destiny needs to control these bitches on his stream.

[@Momo-vl7ly]

After discussing it with the DGG I am here to announce the conclusion the round table has reached: "Destiny is girls name and the person who goes by it is a huge simp".

[@tpolutts3309]

Jfc. Was listening to preview. Saw it was Erin and aba. Was pretty excited. Then I saw the description. Lav. Just can't do it right now. Will put this in the watch later and come back to it when she's not in every single stream.

[@beniamyoseph]

hes doing it for coochie bro im guessing. Aint no other way

[@tpolutts3309]

@@beniamyoseph Nah. I think he personally likes her for the content. Just add Lav and anyone else and there's instant drama because she's insufferable. Then he gets to build his factory while people get mad at her.

[@logoutofmyaccountweirdo]

@@tpolutts3309 facts

[@itsnotjayboi]

@@tpolutts3309 what game is he playing

[@tpolutts3309]

@@itsnotjayboi Factorio with the space exploration mod. He described it as an "autism simulator". Looks boring to me.

[@a.c.forever5157]

The notion that there’s nothing wrong with sex work is just plain ridiculous and everyone involved in sex work is, to an extent, degenerate. This is just pathetic.

[@HOVNA]

The word degenerate does a lot of heavy lifting there.

[@sub-harmonik]

you make it sound like there's something wrong w/ 'degeneracy' which kind of means nothing

[@sub-harmonik]

there is nothing wrong with choosing a certain profession. But you shouldn't feel entitled to customers and you shouldn't claim that you were forced into it by society or whatever. If someone is actually forcing you into it that's sex trafficking and obviously should be illegal.

[@friskydjango8626]

The way this video ends is the funniest thing I’ve seen all week

[@lilsstrunks]

When unbound misandrist all come together this is what is bread.

[@loopymomy2532]

Bred

[@jackhawk8997]

Breadtube for you

[@adrian-dragosbalaban6401]

bread

[@Doncergio]

Lav: "Am I crazy or ...?" Yes Lav, you're crazy, lmao.

[@PapaAwiz]

Said it before. Saying it again. I genuinely don't think Lav should be around any of these convos or Destiny himself at all anymore. Only it's not for any reason a Dgg type would assume. I'm no fan of Lav per say. I click these vids mainly for Stephen & Aba. However I do not necessarily HATE Lav in any way for any particular reason. I very much think counterpoints the other day was spot on with his take on the Lav issue. But I think it goes further than that. And it's been super noticeable for weeks now. The issue is that Lav can't really say ANYTHING more or less without setting Stephen right to 15 (on a scale from 1-10). And his natural reaction to get UBER triggered by Lav and fire off at her is something chat has basically inherited over the time that she's been an orbiter. To the point where everyone genuinely thinks she's retarded. & this is the other issue too which is that too many of you only deal in extremes. If something is not one way, it HAS to be the other. So to clarify....I'm NOT saying that Lav is a genius at all, but she's DEF not retarded. Not even remotely close. It only takes not being overly emotional while listening to her to see this. But again I genuinely don't think it's possible for most of the base at this point. Everyone has been conditioned to react to her the same exact way Stephen does. Like at one point she mentioned something about men being like brutes...& the word brutes just set Stephen completely on fire. Like bro...the word in & of itself is not inherently negative. Why are you getting so worked up over it? Aba seems to be the only 1 here that can consistently have any kind of conversation completely in good faith. & I don't blame him at all for checking out of this one as fast as he did.

[@JasonStorey]

Brute - a savagely violent person or animal beast. 2 : one who lacks intelligence, sensitivity, or compassion : a brutal person.

[@asara8065]

Agreed, you’ve summed up what I’ve been thinking.

[@bigritartpleyer2809]

sick factorio gameplay as usual Steven 👍

[@iz2333]

Lav: "Btw I'm a gender abolitionist hehe" Also Lav: "Men's brains just work more logical and analytical, they're problem solvers. And I think that women are more emotionally more in tune, more intuitive." - 1:44:25

[@therandom58]

She’s not wrong tho… as much as I dislike her. She definitely has a tendency to walk back points/contradict herself tho

[@iz2333]

@@therandom58 We all have the faculties for reason and emotional understanding. There's no biological basis for the claim that these things are inherent to any sex.

[@therandom58]

@@iz2333 women are more emotional in general than men. With that being the case, women will tend to have more understanding of them. Sure some of it is societal but if you leave men and women to their devices overall what Lav said still tends to be correct. There are outliers sure and that’s not to say we shouldn’t aspire to pick up qualities that may be labeled as the opposite gender. But I reject the idea that men and women are equal in that aspect on a general level and won’t be unless there is a concerted effort to make that not the case.

[@iz2333]

@@therandom58 That just doesn't follow at all. Being emotional does not give you an understanding of emotions, if anything it makes you less understanding. You can't truly consider another person's emotions while you're caught up in your own. I have seen no evidence of women being genetically more emotional than men, if you have any feel free to share.

[@therandom58]

@@iz2333 Being more in touch with ur emotions will definitely lead to more understanding of them. As far as evidence or studies I found one titled, Gender Differences in Emotion Regulation: An fMRI Study of Cognitive Reappraisal that you can look up. It’s hard to find studies on this matter because all of the search results tend to reference a singular study conducted in 2021 which is… interesting

[@BanditTools]

Wow kid gloves for the woman in the debate. What a shocker.

[@trevon444]

August please post the LTG chat from a few days ago. I was crying

[@jakebreaker]

Lav: "Men really aren't so bad. I met a guy who was stronger than me because, of course, he's a man. But instead of dominating me, he saw that I needed help in a mundane situation, and used his strength to help me. And I think that's beautiful. :) " Destiny: "YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT ALL MEN ARE BRUTES WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!" Real pro gamer moment.

[@walkinglick7eaven]

The “but instead of dominating me” this is implying that most men she meets are dominating or trying to dominate her. Also why is her example of a man being nice is when he uses his STRENGTH to pick up her bags 😂. Like my nigga she is implying a lot 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@AntiGem]

@@walkinglick7eaven not even only implying 1:35:42 "I think that men are like sort of brutes" this guy is just completely misrepresenting what was said.

[@donanderson3653]

Least delusional Lav stan.

[@DrDurrHurr]

As a man who was dating in his 30s I can give anectotal evidence that A LOT of women in this age bracket are looking for a dominant man / to be dominated. Clearly there are various factors at play - but I wad surprised either way.

[@iz2333]

Cope

[@Thehatter106]

I'm kind of autistic and can also come off as an abrasive person, often unintentionally. If I'm talking to a number of other people and they all interpret what I'm saying or how I'm saying it incorrectly, that's a super good indicator that I'm not doing the best job communicating. It's something I need to work on, not some conspiracy to mindfuck me. Lav desperately needs to learn this lesson.

[@abra5957]

I wAs maKiNg a litTle mEme

[@Psychoticgoldfish]

49:22 When the TV show “Happy Days” was airing, The Fonz (a character a lot of kids looked up to) went to the library and got a library card. The next thing you know, kids all over the country were getting library cards because it was “cool.” I know he’s a fictional character but still, it shows one person can do a whole lot. I think Steven is right.

[@kirkcastellanos1586]

Always waiting on Aba to get on. Love the trolling and what he adds.

[@fly_8659]

Discord needs some of the features TeamSpeak implemented 10+ years ago... that 3D positional audio function was amazing when you had to try and here different parties through cross talk.

[@TheCentristChad]

Poor Steven. Lav is the queen of gaslighting. She’s driving him to insanity 😂

[@jimmyeveryman6418]

Lol why is Erin even invited onto stream? Lav can be frustrating but holy shit she at least brings something to the convo.

[@shortstaccck7965]

Destiny please when can we get an album? That piano was beautiful.

[@pow3r17]

Lav maneged to become more annyoing every time she is on, incredible

[@zakeryrockwell8395]

I'm watching for the gameplay

[@NickWalkerWilliamson]

Once again, Aba is the MVP.

[@judgebeanos]

listening to this while sculpting stuff for a viddy game I wanna make and the whole hour and a half of pain was worth the piano bit

[@DanteMetaphor]

Aba means king lion mysoginy in wakandan. So there you go. And destiny is (not) a name.

[@AbraHaze84]

I've been watching these debate strams for a while now and have come to the conclusion that it's not a race, gender OR ecomonic thing. Only a MATURITY thing... Meaning, the people who act maturely with respect to the other sides opinions and reasons ARE (and only are) the people worth listening to... Nothing more than that And somehow people still don't get it and would rather not to get, it feels like mostly because it's a bunch of kids that were poorly educated in matters of decorum and overly educated in matters of identity devision Its exhausting and I command Steven for having such patience with some of these debaters (and audience... Sheesh)

[@quincianedwards729]

Why is it so hard for her to drop the dusty debate jacket and directly admit she agrees with a point he makes? So scared to be wrong or mistaken about anything, so slippery, for what?

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

People like this are impossible to argue or have a productive conversation with.

[@blackredd6563]

With so many bright wonderful woman in this world, and you always manage to bring some of the worst. Tbh you also bring some of the worst men too, so equality I guess

[@robobo5000]

THE PIANOOOO!! love it when this happens

[@ChenKaifeng]

I am curious if Anna is single and spiteful regarding because her ultra biased hostility toward black men seems to come out of nowhere for no reason otherwise. When she acts blind to the contributions of women to the problems in the black community as well, it makes me think "Woh. WHYYY are you so averse to exploring the actions of both sides? It's harming the conversation from moving forward in a meaningful way when you're doing this." The question of whether she's single, bitter, and spiteful isnt just to throw shade.

[@YuRMoMiNHD]

If you watch the full debate between her and the saint and the sinner guy you’ll see how insane and dishonest she is. Even if you don’t want to agree with the guy. The debate was over a year ago and she seems to have only gotten worse. She was single then (admittedly) and probably still is today.

[@loopymomy2532]

Nope I totally believe that she has been hurt by a black man. She doesn't want to expose personal information about herself because she knows people are going to use that as a talking point, rightfully so.

[@TeamStevers]

Destiny needs to have more people like Aba on, not these people are a slightly different shade of blue.

[@greyblob1101]

Lav never ceases to piss everyone off. It's actually quite impressive.

[@HOVNA]

I think I figured it out. When she is confronted about something that she apparently didn't mean, her though process isn't "How did they interpret what I said in that way and how do I explain the misunderstanding" but its "How can I gaslight everyone into thinking they didn't actually hear what I said by explaining endlessly"

[@TheMrCTW]

first time youtube commenter, long time KZbin frog here: i am currently experiencing early stage brainrot from trying to understand Lav’s position on literally anything for too long. i am holding out and hoping that one day she will take a strong stance on something to reverse my worsening condition.

[@IIGNOMIINY]

1:00:16 Aba did not lie LMAOO. They really are the worst.

[@ggrrm]

Erin triggers my fight or flight response

[@mixmasterroshi1994]

The dude who came in twords the end was unhinged also

[@hamiltonau]

Wait why did Steve soy out so hard over the word "solidarity"

[@patrick24085]

she said very smart while describing lav, is she thinking of the same lav we are thinking of?