Abandoned & Forgotten: A Modern Warfare Zombies Retrospective

[@randompillow5146]

Bro put more effort into this video than was put into the post-launch support of MWZ.

[@WhoDevv]

They did MWZ the same way they did DMZ

[@MaliakSanders]

But worse at least DMZ got new maps

[@complete_newb1718]

Miles worse than dmz

[@martinduran4829]

Almost as if they didn't give Treyarch the actual time/budget for Zombies

[@stanislavkozlov8633]

It is literally DMZ without pvp

[@WhoDevv]

@@stanislavkozlov8633 pretty much

[@Xpertfusion]

I’m glad you discussed the idea of MWZ being the type of game that requires constant updates to be good. I been saying that since Season 2. I feel like once they realized they couldn’t support the game too much post-launch, they should’ve made gameplay additions that are less “content-based” and are moreso something that’s played just for fun.

[@Tac_Tots]

How does round based not require a bunch of updates but MWZ does? After doing the easter egg once and high rounding a few times there’s literally no point in playing. MWZ is now in the same boat round based is every year. I don’t know why you’re acting like round based is any different. At least in MWZ there were reasons to play like store missions, Easter eggs, schematics to grind. If has far more things to do in its life cycle. Now that its life cycle is over it has ended like every other game EVER made. It’s the inevitable outcome of every game. The games fall off within about a year. Not to mention round based needs constant updates. If they just released terminus and stoped, every one would be freaking out. They have to keep releasing totally new maps every season or every one would stop playing. You’re just acting like they are different out of biases.

[@Xpertfusion]

@@Tac_Tots it’s subjective of course. The reason round-based maps (most, not all) tend to more replayable is because we just find them more fun. Obviously if you get bored after doing the Easter egg once then you likely find it less fun than others and that’s okay. I could re-do the BO3/BO4 Easter eggs and side Easter eggs again and again and never get bored. I mean, there’s even some things in those games I’ve yet to do (haven’t done ghosts n skulls in IW yet for example). MWZ’s content was stuff that you could easily beat within the first day of it dropping, and the only content that would take longer to get was due to annoying RNG (relying on luck for the schematics), I think that’s why the mode fell flat for many. I’m glad you clearly enjoyed it a lot more though. I don’t really think games like BO3 needed constant updates. 1 new map per 2-3 months was a perfectly fine amount and I was happy with that.

[@zenta6693]

Well said. Also the format of the content updates for MWZ was the exact same. No new maps, new new enemies that aren’t a variant of an already existing one, no new buystation updates, and no major map changes. What we got was Endgame content. the loop started getting a bit boring once I got most of the schematics I wanted. I think there could have been an Onslaught mode like CW and I would be happy with that. At least I can appreciate the effort placed into the game. I just wished it was so much more.

[@Tac_Tots]

@@Xpertfusion round based Easter egg on a launch map is something you can doing in an hour so that fact that the launch content of MWZ would take you a whole day, is a win in my book. That like 10 times the content. And you said you could re-do BO3/BO4 Easter eggs again and again. Not that you do re-do them. I’ve been playing MWZ for a year and am at 51 days of play time playing on the same map doing the same dark aethers. So I don’t see your point there. And MWZ didn’t get any more updates beside a new small portion of the same map ever 2-3 months and my lobbies are still full, quick load in lobbies, at the end of the games life cycle. I’d like to see you try to get a 24 player lobby of BO3 at the end of its life cycle and see how long that would take. I got be beef with round based. It’s not my thing. But when round based fans act like it’s so much better and has so much more things to do that MWZ with nothing tangible to base it on it drives me nuts. In reality they have the same replayablity for a majority of players, the same fall off, about 1 year. And you saying you play BO3 still doesn’t mean anything because I will still be playing MWZ as long as it’s available.

[@Xpertfusion]

@@Tac_Tots again, it’s all subjective. Neither of us are right or wrong here. I’m just saying how I feel (and many others). I do actually re-do Easter eggs again and again. I find that fun. Especially the ones with lots of depth and challenge to them, it’s fun trying to find better and faster ways to do them. Side Easter eggs are insanely in-depth too (within BO3, IW, and BO4) MWZ’s gameplay flow is just not for everyone. And that’s okay. You actually can find public lobbies on BO3 today btw. I even find them on Infinite Warfare nowadays lol.

[@BROke4209]

Zombies just needs to be it's own game, they can update it and just add modes in it. More money for them more zombies for us. We could have round and mwz style. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@SamhainVenus]

More money for them... Until they realize that's a future cod they won't be selling on zombies.

[@BROke4209]

@@SamhainVenus Enough people play both modes for them to make even more money. I don't know many avid Zombies players who actively play Multiplayer and vice versa. Sure people hop between both to get a break, but if they split them into two games then the small core who actively enjoys both would just end up buying both and bitch about it lol.

[@whitewidow9046]

​@BROke4209 everyone i know plays both and dudes right, they sell a copy of the same game to everyone despite what ypu want to play. If they would make more profit doing seperate games then they would have done that years ago. Plus you don't know hundreds of thousands of people all over the world so I doubt you know more than they do.

[@whitewidow9046]

​@@BROke4209a 2 game thing wouldn't work for too many reasons to list.

[@The1000YearWhore]

MWZ absolutely had some amazing potential because the core gameplay loop is there for sure, but they didn't provide a good enough feed of new content to keep players coming back. I'm hoping they can expand upon this type of mode in the future, because it's definitely a lot more chill and laid back than standard zombies, or even MP for that matter.

[@Big_Garf]

With you 100%. Lots of good fundamentals in MWZ but the overall lack of support and new content really diminished the overall product and its potential. Would have been nice if seasonal updates could have introduced basic things like new enemy types (Hell, even just recycled enemy types from CW, older zombies, or even extinction), a new contract type per season, maybe even a new perk or two, and of course it's criminal imo that we never got more than the base map + aether rifts. A single new map halfway through the game's lifecycle would have improved so much. Overall, a decent game mode, had a blast listening to music or podcasts and camo grinding with it.

[@The1000YearWhore]

@@Big_Garf exactly, there were still so many bosses from Cold War zombies and Outbreak mode that could've fit really well in MWZ. The Orda, Tempest, Krasny Soldat, the plague hounds, they all would've been relatively easy to implement and breathe new life.

[@sarcof]

they could do a lot thing with game, create other types of contracts, play as merc, random events with bosses, alteration of the map etc...

[@Yoooitsbrady]

They don’t even want replayability they want a new game every year and they don’t want to pay a team to support a dead game. They they kill it on purpose just so people buy the next game. They already killed mwz as soon as the download became available for bo6. The update deleted the entire fucking game off my ps5

[@fell4milkman]

Me and my friends actually enjoyed MWZ a LOT more than I thought we would when it originally launched. There was something special about finding random players in the map who had no idea what they were doing and giving them all your best items. And if you timed the ready up with friends to play in a larger squad it was fun

[@TheFreakiestBob]

Mwz could’ve been amazing if they would’ve did it right. New contracts, higher zombie concentration around the map, side quests, NO TIME LIMIT, and different boss fights besides the stupid worm. Entity boss was super fun I wish they would’ve done every season like that one.

[@FretzSZNFN]

Mw fans aka Like me actually enjoyed it, but yea the lack of content killed the game mode at least they should of add more maps like outbreak regions so we can have more lore in the story but who knows maybe if mw4 comes out they can actually also work on it

[@SleepyjoeOG]

First day it was pretty fun but man after the camo grind i absolutely hated this mode😂 I hated exfil grinding, the low points from killing zombies, the dumb tier zones, THE BUGS, i literally had to go back and replay Cw to cure my zombies

[@KnifeMaster44]

Dude, Cold War just hits different. Great game. MWZ was atrocious

[@SleepyjoeOG]

@@KnifeMaster44 it really does, just the infinite zombies spawn without having to wait 3 mins for an exfil was %100 more fun

[@Jimmy5859]

Really enjoy your longer, deep dive videos. Keep em coming!

[@122superspider]

I would have preferred a few more things brought over from dmz. In dmz there was factions and missions for each, some of these missions would give you lore documents but they would also give you stuff like loading in with more armor. Imagine if each of the fields commanders has missions and rewards for each of them, like an ava mission could be extract 3 pap contraband weapons and you could unlock a way to keep pap levels on guns. There were also work benches that allowed you to change attachments on found weapons.

[@curiousg801]

18more hrs and I can finally never touch this game again

[@vn4228]

Can you give me all your scorcher cases?

[@olympusmons8439]

Were you forced to play it this year or something?

[@GrowishGambino]

​@@olympusmons8439 He ain't wrong... MWZ is just trash lol.

[@olympusmons8439]

@@GrowishGambino didnt say he wasn't wrong

[@brogancollins8204]

been binging chop all day lmao

[@Nazrat84]

Literally just finished a game of MWZ and saw this in my feed lmao.

[@TopazBeast]

I had a lot of fun with MW3, especially with extractions before the nerf, I still genuinely think this could have been great if they actually supported it

[@AnthonyBC93]

I played MWZ for fun for about a Month or two, then I got bored and only played it to do challenges for the AMPs in Multiplayer

[@MrHastygamer]

I went onto MWZ for the first time to try to catch up with the story and I swear there was about 1 million challenges like it was crazy. I think this is how you do the easter eggs or something I have no idea.

[@MrHastygamer]

Ok thanks for this video I will not bother if it takes 40 hours 😭 I’ll just watch a video essay.

[@Shark-Fist]

I feel like the biggest lesson that Activision needs to learn but likely never will is that they need to stop making Treyarch work on other studio's games and just let them focus on their own. They have them making zombies modes and running ranked play for every other game, and people wonder why everything feels underdone.

[@sicklywickly]

i played 15 minutes and never looked back so the first 3 minutes were giving me whiplash

[@ProxQsNsJG]

lets go right on time

[@thatonegamer117]

I really loved MWZ, still do, but I have no reason to go back to it after experiencing everything and earning everything.

[@drricemice2046]

I think mw3 zombies could have been big I don't think you can replace round based but if they did it right there good be another mode people want

[@ethanfritch3706]

Honestly I didn’t play a lot of this mode. I hopped in for about 10-15 matches and had my fun and I’m perfectly happy with that. I think the content we got, while wildly different than any other zombies mode, was still pretty fun and interesting, but ultimately I accept and even appreciate the decision they made to slow down development on the mode and focus on BO6. Making that game a huge zombies hit is more important to me and the community than continuing support for a game that split the player base.

[@RizzyGyatt]

>i think what we got was fun and interesting >i didn't play a lot of this mode pick one

[@notgabriel8624]

There’s been discussion for a while about how Warzone is killing itself from the forced game integrations every year, and if Warzone is going to compete with future BR titles it needs to just become its own game.. I think this absolutely needs to happen with MWZ as the side mode in this hypothetical. Can you imagine Warzone and MWZ as their own standalone titles with the constant support alongside yearly game releases? Like instead of the forced integrations we just get shared skins and weapons added every year. I think MWZ was super cool and it deserves to thrive as its own game independent to Round Based, but it’s not the kind of game that’s meant to only have a year of support

[@BirthToBurial10]

I think Black Ops 6 will be another complete package like cold war was

[@mikemarion19]

I tried MWZ maybe 3 times, hated every second of it each time

[@IUltimateGamingHDI]

🗣️ DR PEPPER MENTIONED 🗣️

[@xxstankyzxx2890]

Forgotten. As it should be,

[@toasterenthusiast6188]

Lucky me that the moment I looked up your name you have just uploaded a video.

[@complete_newb1718]

Instead of a time limit. Get rid of zones. And the whole map goes up a teir every 10 mins

[@Twistedslop62]

I’m excited to watch this one

[@beefynfn]

You should swap Forgotten and Abandoned in the title for 1 simple reason In Bo1, in the mission Vorkuta, Reznov says this: "Betrayed, Forgotten, Abandoned, In Vorkuta we are all brothers." So swapping the order of Abandoned and Forgotten would just make the title **that** much cleaner

[@collinthewhite]

Less clicks though but I see your point

[@nuttbag6658]

Why the fuck would there be any reason to do that

[@beefynfn]

@@collinthewhite "less clicks" he's using he same exact words he's just slightly rearranging them Instead of "Abandoned & Forgotten" It would be "Forgotten & Abandoned"

[@beefynfn]

@@nuttbag6658 no real reason other than it makes the title slightly cleaner for those with word association especially considering his channel is more targeted towards the older audience, one that would've played Bo1 and might have the word association for this specific thing Otherwise, it's not hurting anything to change it, it's literally the same thing just in a different order

[@nuttbag6658]

@@beefynfn Then it doesn't fucking matter

[@bane6724]

I wished they would've added the workbench in the map, I love customizing guns

[@MrHastygamer]

1 match every 72 hours chasing random challenges is crazy 😭

[@MaliciousAggravator]

I'm listening to this while playing MWZ 😆

[@corbencantrell2503]

They could’ve at least added a nighttime version of the map for the final season, but nothing at all? That’s wild

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

A modern poopy: zombies - Craig's revelations.

[@The_incredible_Adam]

I’m not a zombies guy but loved DMZ , given that DMZ got no more update I gave mwz a chance. Mwz could of been amazing and so much potential,

[@Dandysfm]

Damn when you titled it like that. It makes me feel bad. Lmao

[@SquashyButton]

MWZ is just massively wasted potential. It had good bones and started off pretty strong. If it was updated consistently and given the support it needed, MWZ could have been a truly great zombies mode.

[@OurSaiyan]

Ya know. After a year. I enjoy it. And absolutely hate it at the same time :)

[@chuytv6422]

I had a glitch where I couldn’t interact with anything that had an activation button such as the pnds, and rockets. I couldn’t do half the DA contracts. This started season 2 and was never fixed. That really pushed me away from mwz.

[@DeaD1te]

hadnt played CoD in about a year, even though i bought cold war/MWII/MWIII(refuse to call the last two mw2 and mw3) and was reminded what a clusterfuck of a company activision is.. all im gonna say is "update requires restart" (ad nauseum)

[@BringMeChaos25]

Mwz is basically Dmz but without aimbot Ai.

[@RobikV3]

They were still there the mercenaries were easily the worst feature in MWZ so annoying lol

[@infxmhc]

If someone was in my area and taking my zombie kills I would start an aether extractor mission while they were in the middle of it so the mercs would Swarm them. 😂

[@Dio_kazuhira]

I wouldnt have had an issue with doing the process to get to the final boss if the tasks werent BORING

[@frankgrimito5821]

When someone ask me how MWZ born:

[@jimmilton6644]

it all happened when i was born

[@olympusmons8439]

Was that English?

[@dbkwk9]

Don't think so​@@olympusmons8439

[@kalleekstrom151]

Will you ever do a deamon’s souls review

[@Ch0pper]

👀

[@Chemical_Symphony]

I didn't get MW3 but this actually looks pretty decent.

[@awootism2022]

I swear if I hear another Zombies person say "Aura" one more time im gonna lose my mind

[@cuppy666]

Imma be real with you if it weren’t for the tombstone glitch I wouldn’t have played this mode nearly as much as I had and that’s due to the insane cooldowns and low stash inventory working against its extraction game type. Extraction modes are not fun when you don’t have anything to go in with which is basically how they wanted you to treat every session outside of like one run every three days where you could use all your good stuff on cooldown

[@WuvPain]

10:57 you’re gonna be excited to find out they came out with free content updates lol theirs boss rush mode now

[@f.prince6642]

Mwz was fun for a week. Not gonna lie

[@avit7442]

My biggest problem with modern zombies is the hud and xp pop ups

[@MrTmontona]

I liked MW3 zombies 🤷🏻‍♂️ felt like a mix of Zombies, Warzone/DMZ, and spec ops

[@mjdsaxkid]

It didn’t take very long till I got the blueprints and did I have fun getting it? No, was it fun now that I got it? No. There was nothing to do, no goal because the game was set on the same timer. So the few things that came out for it, I skipped because I knew there was nothing to strive for that would make the game any better

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

MWZ is a thing only John Rizzo would like

[@ericbaker8781]

That man is a sucker for medieval castles

[@battlefrontinfinite5215]

There mod excuse to abandon this, all they had to do was port over Warzone maps and style them up a bit. Also, there’s more zombies as time goes in your zones on map.

[@Soni_cs]

Never played it but if it was a standalone game with a different name it would be good

[@jeremyrennerfn]

no it wouldn’t lol

[@groovydude1576]

After the act three story mission no joke Zakhaev just runs away and leaves the story.

[@tinytitan1145]

Honestly for all that was done wrong with this it still like a genuinely kind of fun experience if you just for like however long want to turn your brain off and just kill undead with your buddies in a larger environment then you normally do and that's nice it's fun plus you got like camos you can do That's neat that's fun it's whatever

[@codyforeman-b7t]

i like.

[@yvngsavage1197]

R.I.P MWZ *HAWK TUAH*

[@JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny]

12:40 While I agree with you 100%, that MWZ is reliant on game updates for replayability, I think this specific point is unfair. The schematic grind of mwz is baked into it's gameplay loop and is the one instance where I think replayability exists outside of content updates. The issue to be had is that this system is finite in that as soon as you get every schematic there is nothing to be gained anymore. My major issue with mwz is this, alongside the fact that from it's inception it was only ever going to get 1 year of support. As well as the fact that the support they added was all just like the schematic grind; once you completed it, there was no fun in replaying the content.

[@SethizFTW]

I just tried thing mode again but I just got so bored so quick. On top of getting bored, the constant packet burst became frustrating despite having gigabit speeds. I stopped playing after 2 hours because I/plus the others in my lobby froze in place and got downed. I am really hoping this is not an issue with BO6 since it is always online. I beg for COD tubers to keep pushing this because it is frustrating.

[@unholymayhem]

Are we ever getting videos on Call of Duty’s like Finest Hour, 3, or Black Ops Declassified ?

[@ryanator7935]

Should’ve just been a side mode to Warzone if they wanted more profit. It would insensitive its fans to spend more money on skins and even bo6 in order to get the guns and skins to use in that mode.

[@darkshaman98]

The online only aspect completely put me off the mode along with the best strategy being to avoid killing zombies and just push objectives completely defeating the purpose of the mode, then there were the mercenaries... I'm really glad we've moved on from it

[@droversanity3682]

schematic wise. it went from good to not so useful or too situational

[@BirthToBurial10]

DMZ was amazing

[@firescream2598]

I think in between outbreak and this would be a good sweet spot for a open world zombies round based open world jumping to different maps and the maps have atmosphere and aren’t the empty spaces from Cold War full of life maybe there are area when you can go on the map to talk to mpc like a hub area and you get your missions from them but you can play solo and offline and acts more like a open world zombies rpg game 😂 Sorry long tangent but would be awesome

[@Dtox78]

I view it like this, you don't pull the entire team off a "BRAND NEW" game to work on a game that was in production for "4" years unless the "4" year game is in serious trouble....

[@davidn.2555]

Exactly! Hence the birth of liberty balls after 4 fucking years!

[@therealmisterj20]

Or maybe the 4 year game is just more important, and the studio that's making that game would rather focus on their own game rather than help pick up the slack for another studio???

[@zacharywiggans1763]

VR-11? Fantastic wonder weapon? I’d rather use the old jet gun

[@fistthesis2593]

Bro I don’t even think they put this much thought into this mode

[@XWillette0]

I’d rather boot up a lobby of zombies in spaceland with the homies

[@Porchungi]

Although I didn’t like this mode personally, it’s not fair to the ones who enjoyed it that it got scrapped so early into the year

[@1Staubsauger]

You couldn't even pause the game because it's locked online like playing DMZ/Warzone.

[@DJCinthaBoy]

As someone who started playing Zombies at WaW, I’m honestly disappointed they’re going back to round base. To me round base Zombies got stale by Blops 3. MWZ is the most I’ve had fun with Zombies in almost 15 years.

[@IgonDrakeWarrior]

I kind of agree. I’m excited for Black Ops 6 but I hope the invest more time into a more refined MWZ in the future.

[@kierxnb2050]

Agreed

[@steel749]

I really liked MWZ because each game felt different, it wasn't the same "well time to train in this area for 40 rounds" or "hmm maybe I'll do the easter egg this time to switch it up a bit" I really liked how OP you can become right from the bat with the schematics

[@williamwen3477]

MWZ = DMZ but with zombies

[@ahsanshahrules]

I had more fun on MWZ then Vangaurd zombies so hey .

[@Cthulhu897]

i touggt they killed DMZ to make DMZombies in MWZ or something like that but it just died, both game modes are dead due to activision stupidity

[@gnoclaude7945]

MWZ was 10/10 but i left around season 2. The updates were too minimal. Dark aether was ok but it was only for endgame players. The QOL changes were great but they needed more stash upgrades up to 100 slots. I enjoyed the missions but they didnt add anything meaningful. They never added a new map when DMZ had multiple. It would have been great with a new map that restarted the grind with new operators. I would gladly pay for more maps with missions.

[@od13166]

Putting matchmaking only is stupiest idea imo

[@dawelsh241]

Since this game came out i knew that every aspect of it was just to waste your time and force you to delve into the repetitive nature of what the mode was built off of. I have completed everything just after season one there is just not a reason to return. The new aether updates are cool ig but they are also repetitive and the way to get to the "easter-eggs" are just terrible. Plus the bullet sponge enemies and bosses are just too much. I personally cannot find a single aspect of this mode i find fun. Great video btw

[@LateNightHalo]

Dude, MWZ is less than a year old 😂 way too young for a “retrospective” I really agree with your thoughts on it. I was pleasantly surprised by it and dismayed at its abandonment

[@BirthToBurial10]

I jumped in once it was content complete I absolutely love the mode I absolutely loved outbreak and Cold War Zombies as well I think Modern Warfare 3 multiplayer is great too I think it's the first great CoD game since Cold War I think Cold War and Modern Warfare 3 are the two best modern era Call of Duties we've gotten people downloaded the campaign and bitched about that but who cares the rest of the game was amazing in the campaign wasn't terrible it just wasn't great

[@WastedKitten]

12:30 i honestly just saw MWZ as a FARMER MODE so just earning XP from shooting zombies only found it pretty fun and a way to just turn my brain off and shoot things. so yes i would. But if you mean No rewards like Battle pass Tokens and Weapon Lvling as well, Then No i would not play it LOL

[@The_Original_TP]

Do The Charleston bro

[@GodnJeasus]

I don’t like the DMZ style progression, that’s the main thing that turned me away

[@kel-lee8621]

Coolest thing about mwz for me was that i could play zombies as skelator. That said they absolutely butcherd it and the combination of vanguard and then mwz it was like a combination of tranzit and die rise launch and bo4s launch. Aka its the worst state zombies has been in ever

[@collinthewhite]

I made a video before release that MWZ would suck

[@Banditt_Red]

58:00 online only is going to be the worst thing about bo6 zombies because if it turns out to be amazing then that means in 10 years time we won’t be able to play it.. the online only concept needs to be murdered

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

MWZ be like: 😪

[@saulherrera5270]

This video only shows how MWZ is exactly like dead rising 2. It’s a great game but the timer ruined everything. Also BLOPS3 is still goated for all the modded maps that give more love to the game than treyarch or activision or any other team could do

[@Slimetendo_Hub]

Would not call it forgettable, nor abandoned, I'd say it was ignored and unadvertised. I really don't like Activision's need to ignore the zombies side of their game, they released their best dlc to date, saw the excitement it brought, they probably then saw that there was an increase in purchase's and player count in infinite warfare and ww2, and then saw Fortnite's success, and rather than wait a year or 2 to produce a BR, "Bo4 need's a battle royale we're cutting the zombies budget oh and if zombies fails 'AGAIN' we're firing your zombies director and cutting your budget further." I despise that Activision's greed culminates in forcing something to work, "Oh overwatch is an unbalanced mess that a lot of pros don't like? Here's our regional based overwatch league. Treyarch is falling behind in their zombies content? Well there's going to be more zombies content. Why are people trying to open up servers for old games? They're lame and stinky, play the new thing, you know what here's our trusty cease and desist."

[@reapersasmr5483]

Well when you make a mode that requires as much in updates and new content as the main game .. and then do NONE of that... the mode will fail .. it failed because like dmz they did NOTHING with it .. its like they thought it didnt need new content .. like this and dmz could have been great .. dmz is 10x better than wz .. now zombies is better than the old style but it could have been good ..

[@ToppaliniTube]

So the game is a professional time waster, the replay ability has nothing to do with fun, only content and there wasn’t enough, it took days to access… and you’re saying it was good? Normally I respect opinions but you literally tore your own opinion to shreds then came to the opposite conclusion of what is correct based on your own analysis. It wasn’t fun, it was a buggy mess, it took way too long, it sucked. They could have just kept DMZ and had treyarch aid with campaign. This is a massive L take. They stopped supporting it because it was a flop. Additionally…. It was not the most successful third mode, it was the most successful MW series third mode because they just had spec ops which fell off in the reboots and sucked…….. Obviously BO1 zombies was the most successful mode. Everyone and their grandma was playing bo1 zombies.

[@PhoenixRiser]

I’m a keep it real with you even as a diehard call of duty and zombies fan. This mode isn’t worth a review. It’s dog shit. It’s half baked. It’s lazy and it’s an insult to all of us.

[@aguynamedguabbah]

Modern warfare zombies is literally the 2nd worst cod zombies mode aside from vanguard