ABC Nightline 1984 - The Jacksons Victory Tour controversy

[@isuriadireja91]

If you consider the fact that there's never been an Off the Wall or Thriller Tour, and instead there were Triumph and Victory Tours..you gotta commend Michael for being that humble and putting his family first before his own ego, despite the mega huge successes of those two solo albums of his.

[@freebandz4332]

His family forced him

[@XP9724]

I think it was smart too, u get to get 4 catalogues in 1 show. The Jackson 5 hits, The Jacksons hits at the time, MJ solo hits, and Jermaine's solo hits cuz he was on a run of top 40 hits before and after the tour. I wish they would've actually performed music from the actual Victory album tho, a live performance of Torture would've been great

[@KDashSix]

I can’t even imagine a solo ‘Thriller’ tour… Would’ve done the biggest numbers in history, point-blank. Period.

[@pagandeva2000]

@@XP9724 I heard something about how the record sales for that album really didn’t do well enough to justify adding any songs from it. Personally, I would’ve loved State of Shock being played on tour

[@XP9724]

@@pagandeva2000 Not true, the album was literally double platinum in only a few months and they had 2 other hits after state of shock. Torture was a top 20 hit and Body was right outside the top 40, if the sales weren't good they wouldn't have named it the victory tour

[@princenamor1939]

I was making $3.60 an hour, stood in line for 4 hours with an injured back and got two tickets in the 18th row, $30 apiece. It was worth it!

[@cool_cat007smoove3]

How much do you make now in 2023?

[@princenamor1939]

Fitty Cent.@@cool_cat007smoove3

[@jamesfarrell8339]

Cool story I barely remember the night

[@handsome-brute2666]

​@@cool_cat007smoove3unemployed

[@handsome-brute2666]

Tag live😂talk live

[@jrodindigo]

What's heartbreaking about this is.... this was originally supposed to be Michael solo tour for Thriller. His parents pressured him into bringing his brothers on the road because some of them had money issues. Don King got involved and made things worse. I went to the show and it was awesome, but it was bittersweet knowing all of this.

[@MrBlackBono]

I knew having don king was not a good idea that dude is a theif

[@tanishakennedy4616]

That's not true! Michael was on the album with his brothers a long with the Thriller album

[@MsTrueTy]

​@@tanishakennedy4616It's true the brothers had money problems. So Michael decided to do the Jacksons tour when originally he was supposed to promote Thriller. So in a way he is right. Michael was pressured. But he only agreed to do it if he had a solo segment for the thriller hits. I believe because he learned of the ticket scandal he donated his own earnings to bring down the tickets. But he left the tour was the first leg was over. There is A lot! That happened look up the channel the Detail. Michael was very upset about this tour. And retired from the Jacksons while on this tour

[@MrBlackBono]

@@MsTrueTy it make sense cause for long time I was saying thriller is the only one that didn’t have a tour I was like what happened

[@KDC256]

​@@MsTrueTyYou'd have to wonder why it never dawned on Michael Jackson's brothers, "You know, I don't seem to be making much income unless I'm performing with my brother Michael. I need to find ways of generating personal income for myself independent of Michael."

[@jacquettamckinney1864]

You mean I could have seen The Jacksons for $30 bucks a ticket!!!! If only I was born 😢!!!!!

[@amiramir-qg7xv]

$30 back then is $80 today

[@MJforevermoonwalking]

Fr because now tickets are over 100 to over a thousand dollars

[@wilmmerwest3876]

@@amiramir-qg7xvWasn’t too expensive or something??

[@oatlaskennedy1308]

I’d pay 80 bucks to see Michael Jackson live in his prime.

[@Desmondbrowne666]

It was greedy money back then

[@ricky6935]

I was there.. Neyland Stadium in Knoxville Tennessee in 1984, they sold out the stadium 3 nights in a row!! That was in 84, have never seen another tour of this magnitude since and its 2023. the Jackson's are EPIC and legends! Its crazy then to have Michael and Janet break off and be 2 of the biggest pop stars to date. that's pretty damn cool 🔥🔥🔥💯❤️❤️❤️

[@Cedrclovesutube]

Totally agree

[@for-house-stark]

​@july3410lmao, you think because Taylor swifts concert tickets are more expensive than the victory tour that it makes her bigger than Michael jackson at his peak? You're delusional af. Jackson drew far bigger crowds, had more concert attendances and sold far more records than failure swift ever could

[@tatkoy8963]

⁠@july3410bro su we don’t care about Taylor she can’t hold a candle to Michael Jackson he has more talent in his finger than her whole body

[@fredstriker2042]

Was row 2 on the field show 1 in Knoxville. My Mother must have been really putting it to the idiot she was gold digging

[@fredstriker2042]

​@july3410 or perhaps he doesn't waste his money on crap like Taylor

[@nah....6151]

funny how in 1984 $30 (which is about 80 today) was seen as highway robbery but nowadays with scalpers you can't even get into the stadium to see Taylor for under $1000

[@supercoolyguy]

@$1k ea. If 6-8 Swifties got together they could get a sky suite. This just happened via FB. The only seats available in Seattle.

[@mikeyj990ify]

Pearl jam fought ticketmaster over prices and they were about $28 to see a popular band in the 90s

[@mikeyj990ify]

So $30 in mid 80s prob was robbery

[@mrg8581]

People in Detroit paid over $1,500 for tickets to Swift's concert at Ford Field. Insane.

[@nah....6151]

@@mikeyj990ify it wasn't really robbery though. MJ was the biggest star in the world at the time (the same way Taylor is today) so its understandable that tix to see him were a little higher, but ultimately 30 really wasn't that insane for ticket prices comparative to how you need to take a loan out today to get halfway decent seats to a huge star. 30 in 1984 was roughly 80-100 today, still cheaper than many artists' nosebleeds

[@areguapiri]

People today will never see anything like this again. The greatest concert performances ever. Thank you, Jacksons!

[@areguapiri]

@july3410...A "65 year old black man" comparing Taylor Swift to Michael Jackson. Are you dumb enough to expect anyone to believe that?.....lol

[@johnnyfonk999]

Beyoncé Taylor Swift you know

[@johnnyfonk999]

@James-gr4io you are a goddamn lie. You can’t see or hear anything on the ground that’s 11 miles away

[@adriennegaston8219]

@july3410 ever heard of the phrase "Michael Jackson famous"? There's a reason why every so-called pop sensation today is compared to HIM not her! At best, she's mediocre 😴

[@adriennegaston8219]

@july3410 so you stay on that train 🚂 you sixty-five year old black man...

[@mrg8581]

I miss Michael Jackson and the 1980s. Rest in peace Michael.

[@POLOGEE]

Nothing was better than the 80's!!!

[@alf2410]

The 80’s being in high school was the best.. loving Madonna and Michael so much.

[@galenjoyce8895]

Michael Jackson and the 80's. Such a fun time.

[@GnarlsBarkley123]

I was lucky to see a screening of MJ’s 40th Thriller Documentary (I wish the estate would RELEASE IT) and you see the Jacksons perform in 4K and it’s amazing!

[@mdecimal1753]

What??? How’d you pull that off???

[@anneliesejackson507]

Did you film the footage

[@GnarlsBarkley123]

@@mdecimal1753 last year, there was a very last minute invite for the Thriller 40th Doc from the official MJ site. I live in Los Angeles and got lucky. The whole documentary wasn’t shown but most of it was, in 4K! You see a young MJ in the studio singing his face off and lots of other stuff. Can’t wait for the world to see it.

[@freebandz4332]

🧢

[@key214]

The estate are really annoying me with this thriller 40 documentary!! Just release it already ffs

[@azucarmorena5000]

My dad recorded this one vhs. My parents grew up on Jackson 5 music and made sure we were fans too.

[@LeonLacey]

You see which media HATED MJ, this is disgusting how they ALWAYS found ways to try to make his life miserable… he was the HARDEST training music performer of the millennium and these folks scrutinized him even though he gave millions back

[@musiclove5935]

All the chaos involved is probably why MJ, wasn’t to happy to do tours with brothers more often. Too many people behind the scenes with their own agendas.

[@4thdimension760]

AYYYYYYYYYYYYY. I’m from NC and went to the show at RFK stadium!! I was in third grade. Mom, her friend, her daughter, my sister. We were up in the nosebleeds lol! When I got back to school with my Thriller shirt and glove necklace, my classmates had jaws dropped.

[@ltfringr]

Crazy that this was MJ's biggest controversy at one point. Rest in peace

[@Juanthemtg]

Little did he know about the bs they would say about this man

[@DavidAndTheDummies]

Ikr?! Such a shame

[@4thecollectors]

They did this without social media

[@Yanadew]

It’s so wonderful to see parts from this concert, I remember the excitement! They were awesome and to see vintage Michael, to hear his voice, see him move across the stage , just beautiful! 😢❤❤❤❤

[@johnvarela794]

The entire concert is on KZbin

[@obstud9]

I remember recording this on my VCR and anything else Jackson. The concert was at Giant stadium and was out of sight. Miss the good old days 😪 happy to see the new ones 😅

[@pagandeva2000]

Jackie is a liar. His wife busted him with Paula Abdul and ran his ass over. THATS why he missed some of the VictoryTour

[@The1trueking1966]

Glad the spearchucking bastard got hurt,bitch deserved it

[@The1trueking1966]

Why didn't she kill his black ass?

[@musiclove5935]

I wouldn’t expect him to admit that publicly.

[@SupremeNerd]

Yeah I wouldn't tell that either.... To anybody lol

[@ana.aliciaaaaa]

😂😂

[@alanmckenzie9599]

You can see me @ 2:25 - 2:28.... Crazy... I was 10-yrs old...

[@itstgatqueen]

Wow that’s amazing!

[@1973poty]

We were kids and we actually believed the glitter was really jumping off his socks.

[@r.p.5903]

So cute!

[@NthaH2od]

I remember this, like it was yesterday. I was 16 years old and went the 2nd night. The 2nd night must be my lucky night, because in 1988 on his 2nd tour. I was lucky enough to get a free ticket from someone in his entourage. Rest in Peace MJJ.

[@debragarner4884]

All those people, only wanted to see Michael. Me too!

[@cedric7122]

Nope.

[@gin40]

Me too

[@brianpratts]

Yeah cause Michael was the star

[@chasugc3740]

@@cedric7122 Yeah, a lot of girls preferred the lower key superstar like Jermaine.

[@bigt5699]

I was there JACKSONS

[@irondragon8207]

Jackie’s on crutches 🩼 because his wife caught him cheating with Paula Abdul and ran him over smh

[@DavidNeumeier-wp2oc]

I guess Jackie Inherited the cheater trait from His father Joseph Walter Jackson Joe cheated on his wife Katherine Jackson all the time.

[@DJGary0910]

He tried get his story together 😅😅😅

[@manulem5020]

WTF

[@5star64]

That’s hear say. Unproven gossip. You were not there when he was injured.

[@kimariokiji]

Yep. And Enid designed the guys’ costumes for this tour.

[@weluvfood2865]

I went to the Victory Tour, best tour of my entire life. I wish I could’ve went to the Bad Tour because its my personal favorite to watch on youtube

[@EFunkRock]

The Bad Tour was amazing!!

[@wilmmerwest3876]

We need this full show from KC😭😭😭

[@supachaloopa3611]

The VICTORY album was actually pieced together by many seperate recordings, by different brothers who couldn't even put their squabbling aside to get in the studio at the same time. It was a disaster from the beginning. The VICTORY TOUR was only made because Michael didn't want to support his brothers financially for the rest of their lives. After that mess, Michael distanced himself from any meetings or plans to do another album with his siblings. Imagine being the Golden Goose in that family.

[@senshiserenity7088]

He should have stayed with his brothers because that's where he shine best for me personally. Michael was special in his own right but it was something about him coming together with his brothers as well people like to sit there and clown his brothers like they don't have talent when all of them putting their talents together is just pure magic that's why they were able to tear the stage of the way they did.

[@senshiserenity7088]

When all of them came together, you just didn't see Michael. You seen all of them as a working unit. Am isolating himself from his family just to end up around bigger snakes that didn't give a shit about him was far worse because it led to his demise. And I don't believe he killed himself with an overdose Michael Jackson was murdered. He even told his sister that he knew that they were going to kill him eventually.

[@orlandocharlie1795]

My dad and I went to the victory tour in Atlanta. My dad paid more than $30 for the tickets. I must have been only 9 years old.

[@troyelam8978]

That music critic sums up what I have been saying for years, when he talks about the age variation of the crowd. I have never known another artist where they are your one of your grandma‘s favorite artists, your mother‘s favorite artist, your favorite artist, and one of your child’s favorite artists! Just incredible.

[@robfromvan]

I begged my mom to go to this when I was a kid but we couldn’t afford it!! I’m glad I had the cassette tape!!! 😳🙏😁

[@chillywillie6283]

I was overseas serving in the USAF the whole year of 1984, so l missed any opportunities to see this tour. Just five years earlier in May 1979, l was in the back of a Florida theater for a Jacksons concert when they arrived and where there was no security and no crowds. There was just the group, the limo driver and me.

[@Job.Well.Done_01]

Lol this is awesome I could see it as I read your post. How was the show? Did you get any good Polaroid pictures ?

[@ronaldshute1924]

It's funny how history paints a time period with a cost analysis. In 84 it was a lot to pay $30.00 for a ticket. But know one was as big an personality or group then M.J. or his brothers at the time. The value or bang for the buck is pennies compared to today's prices for a concert. And the talent level of today's acts couldn't hold a candle to The Jackson's let alone The king of Pop on his own.

[@jihadx5307]

My great-grandfather always thought this was a conspiracy to sabotage the tour. “Racists in America are mad that Michael sold so many copies of Thriller & are probably saying ‘who does this n--er think he is charging this much to see him sing & dance?’”

[@EFunkRock]

Your great-grandfather called it right. He was ahead of his time. Shoutout to him.

[@jihadx5307]

@@EFunkRock thanks & God rest his soul. Big salute to you as well…🫡

[@VivaciousVirgO]

Even Ted Koppel sounded jealous af in the beginning of this broadcast about how Michael and his brothers were doing it better than the Rolling Stones and David Bowie (Elvis and the Beatles, as well). He couldn't help but compare and contrast all three groups. And he knew Michael and company were doing it way big; bigger than all those lilly whites. 🤪

[@Phil-zd8tn]

You outta yo mind bruh. Come on bruh. MJ is exceptional but is NOT and will NEVER be better than the Beatles and Elvis. Let's call a spade a spade. Stop to nonsense bruh it is quite unbecoming.

[@jihadx5307]

@@Phil-zd8tn Why because they’re white? Michael has an album that crushes their album sales & they had a head start. Michael’s music still resonates with kids who were born after he died. His death was a world stopping event, his funeral was on every television station & consumed the news cycles for nearly a year. Elvis didn’t even write his own music & modern artists don’t mimic the Beatles.

[@philipdefibaugh5683]

Today, $200 is standard pricing for tickets. In 1996, KISS tickets were only $20 per person at their sold-out reunion. Now, you have to take out a loan to just get decent seats to a concert. Unlike the other Jacksons, Micheal cared enough to make it right to see the Victory Tour.

[@debragarner4884]

Jackie,you know your wife at the time,was a big contributed to your knee issues! Ted should've interviewed Paula Abdul about the knee issues. Oh well,still love ya!

[@kaleidoscopedream3813]

😂😂

[@cool_cat007smoove3]

He was married to Paula or breaking her off and his wife broke him off? 😮😮😂😂

[@ufjazzman]

I missed out on the Victory tour, but managed to see the Bad tour about 4 years later.

[@terranceharris4686]

The problem back then was you had to pay $120 up front for four tickets and you had no control over where you sat or if you were going even get seats at all. You went into some kinda lottery. That was some Don King shit. But after the first two stops, MJ put an end to it.

[@CCTH2221-lp2zj]

I remember sleeping overnight at Scotties record shop when the tickets went on sale. I sealed those tickets in three envelopes with tape in my dresser. LOL

[@carltonwalton9819]

You are part of history! Thank you for sharing!!!❤

[@BDN469]

When Joe Jackson and Don King are planning a tour you knew this would be a shit show: 1. Michael Jackson hair caught fire (Pepsi Commercial) 2. Ticket Scandal 3. Expecting Free Stadiums 4. Jackie Jackson knee injury (wife ran him over with car after he was caught cheating) 5. Tour expenses way too high 6. New England Patriots Owner (Tour Promoter) had to sell his team because he lost so much money from this tour 7. We were robbed of having a thriller tour 8. This tour tore apart the Jackson family (brothers never shared a stage again until 2001)

[@ChedricBigby]

Damn I never looked at it like that 😮

[@Awinst01]

When I was a teenager I was part of a large church youth group that went on a two week choir tour that would end up in Washington, DC where we would sing at the capital building. We were out of Jackson, MS and had chartered two buses from a company called “Jackson Tour and Travel”. Emblazoned across the sides of each bus were those words - “Jackson Tour and Travel” along with a logo that used a drawing of the world. This just happened to be the same time when the Jacksons were on their victory tour. Every time we’d stop for gas or to eat fast food in a town along the way, word would get out that the Jacksons were in their town and had stopped for lunch. The phones would be ringing off the hooks in the fast food joints asking if The Jacksons were in the restaurants. The parking lots would fill with people wanting to see the buses hoping to get a glimpse of someone famous. And then, when reality set in you’d see a wave of disappointment among the locals as they got back in their cars a got back to their everyday lives, having seen nothing but a bunch of teenagers from Jackson, Mississippi.

[@larryrogers3391]

I remember watching this on TV like it was yesterday. Unfortunately Jackie wasn't being truthful about his injury. And I don't blame him. That concert was good, but the Triumph Tour was very good and still my all time favorite

[@fozzir]

I went to that concert at Mile High Stadium. We were in nose bleed but it was still awesome! I didn't think the ticket prices were high for what the entertainment value was.

[@missbee1451]

😂 Ole Jackie lying at 18:24 about his " knee surgery/tumor, fenur bone accident". Having trouble even keeping his story straight😂 # ALLEGEDLY #PAULA 🚗☕️

[@brandyeduncan7285]

Just stuttering through 😂😂😂😂

[@cruzpaez8047]

Stuttering b/c he was LYING. Jackie was a dogg in the "love" dept. Won't say what really went down.. but SHE was not having any of Jackie's B.S. & probsbly his wife wasn't either.😮😮😮 Just one of the pitholes #MichaelJackson 👑 always tried to avoid. Family Drama. #RIH King. ✌🏾💜

[@bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746]

I didn’t have any problems getting my tickets or seeing the concert so I’m happy it was my favorite concert by far

[@XP9724]

Its crazy that $30 for a ticket was controversial back then, nowadays that's cheap😂😂😂 smh

[@likemussolini4848]

They’d 💩 themselves looking at todays ticket prices 😂😂😂

[@phill.2924]

The concert critic said that the high ticket price autimatically excluded a lot of people from seeing the show. Yes, thirty dollars is "cheap" compared to today. But, in 1984, wages were lower. I also think the average person had a different idea of how high he/she would pay for entertainment. He didn't have iphones that he would spend hundreds on without blinking an eye. There weren't Swift or Springsteen shows where he would somehow pull money away from living expenses to buy $700 tickets. 1984 was a different economy, but people really thought before they bought. Looking at money spent on entertainment today, it's ironic that the 80's have been labeled a decade of greed and excess.

[@soulcontrolwo6088]

If 84 Mike was touring now those tickets would be 1k or more

[@grgmj1980]

Michael was definitely magical

[@williambrown4357]

😂😮wow. I remember staying up late watching this. I paid no attention to the subject matter. I just wanted to see them perform live. 😊

[@larryrogers3391]

Same!!

[@FredPena-rd5cf]

I saw them at the Gator Bowl Jacksonville Fla 1984. Lionel Richie was there. He was introduced by Michael who pointed to him in one of the skyboxes. He was right above where i was sitting. Tickets were 20 bucks a piece.

[@areguapiri]

I was there one of those nights in Jacksonville.

[@CBrown9758]

Jermaine's forever golden voice!❤️🫶💯🔥💫💫💫💫💫💫👑👑👑👑👑👑🥂🍾They are royal talents so they must move royally.

[@chasugc3740]

Heck, in the U.K., they give their music stars Knighthood. They knighted Mick Jagger and Paul McCarthy. You would never see that sort of recognition for a black music superstar in the U.S.

[@MrWouda]

You can clearly see America has a problem in these piece SMH!!!! TBH All I can see is Yt America mad because all the money they knew these blk kings were about to gross with this iconic tour. THEY TRY TO STOP IT BUT YOU CANT STOP GREATNESS!!!! I LOVE THEY JACKSON!!!! REST IN POWER KING YOUR LEGACY LIVES ON!!!!

[@isuriadireja91]

Exactly. That cliff redneck Wallace just so apparently seems like the type.

[@ericadial8801]

💯 Ted Kopel know could care less about low income people. If it was George Michael or Madonna he wouldn't question them😂

[@isuriadireja91]

@@ericadial8801 oh and those venue owners won't have NO problem accommodating those white artists..however crazy their demands would be.

[@africkinamerican]

🙄 Making everything be about race Is a very simplistic way to look at life. And how unpleasant it must be to go around thinking everybody hates you. That is a good way to actually make people hate you.

[@MrBoswel1]

Michael Jackson didn’t wanna tour with his bros

[@cdelorenzo6773]

I saw it.... fabulous. Still have my program & Victory Tour hat😂

[@donaldfrierson743]

I saw the Victory Tour in Cleveland. When you look at tours today such as Beyonce and ticket prices, not much has changed and it has gotten worse. A ticket to a victory tour was thirty dollars in 1984-that is worth 87.00 in today's money. Still a steal at today's concert prices.

[@kellyvandijk3269]

I was at the Bad-tour in 1988. I’ll never forget.

[@isuriadireja91]

That's cool and all, but i think MJ just wasn't the same after Thriller, personally and musically. Thriller was his peak, sadly.

[@lamaudelewis9866]

@@isuriadireja91nah Bad was MJ creative peak! For sure even his dancing was better than thriller era

[@isuriadireja91]

@@lamaudelewis9866 🤣🤣 😑😑 NO. especially the DANCING u said...?? U nuts..??? starting with Bad, his singing was lesser than the ones he did in Off the Wall and Thriller and started to have more of the shouting and grunting...and his dancing was mostly repeating his old stuff and that dreaded military-tinged cartoony street gang macho stuff that's NO WAY NEAR the stuff he did in Beat It. but, if THAT's what u like about Michael then...by all means. but to say Bad was his PEAK...lol don't be ridiculous. even the album sales went dipping way low compared to Thriller. it was downhill from Bad on.

[@marymoore5776]

​@@isuriadireja91MJ had alot of great music afterThriller, my opinion.

[@aaronolson5434]

I will he didnt come to Tacoma in 1988

[@levelimeade9613]

Shout out to my hometown Kansas City Missouri 💯🤙🏽..... That was dope they came to the town to do they first show...

[@KelleyNicholson]

When Michael went solo he started his tour KC I wish I wasn't a baby at the time 😢

[@alukuhito]

This tour was possibly the most hyped thing I can remember in my life. I'm sure it was really good, but they were making this out to be the biggest event ever.

[@jody8526937]

Yes.. I remember the overwhelming hype. This news piece was part of it all. This was the first tour that really put ticket prices out of the reach of paper route money for teenagers. People complained vehemently about price gouging to see a pop act. It was unheard of at the time. The tour was playing to half empty stadiums by the end. And in retrospect it’s basically forgotten and not the tour all future acts would be measured against.t

[@SupremeNerd]

They shouldn't have never got Don King involved in this tour

[@MsDisneylandlover]

Lol

[@fixitchic]

Wow $30 was expensive in 1984. Seems like pennies since tickets now cost hundreds or more than $1,000.

[@damienlomax1946]

Victory tour was ok but but triumph was the best tour out of them all victory bad dangerous and history

[@Wonderouz]

I really wish I knew why it wasn't the other way around

[@anthonyrobinson973]

​​​@@WonderouzBecause TRIUMPH was by far the best album the Jackson's ever produced..Keep in mind, I'm measuring this against the other Jackson's albums, now, if We measure their other albums against the average artist, there's not much comparison. Edit. The Jackson's is a group that crosses Generations,and, when someone is in the business that long, whatever generation you fit into, you will always think that was the best. But that just goes to show how **GREAT** they were. You can't speak of the Jackson's without, of course, speaking of Mike for he was the LEAD.

[@lennixjones]

bad, dangerous and history have nothing to do with the JACKSONS. that's just mikes tour, so you can't really compare them. even so, his worst history tour show is better than anything, respectfully

[@damienlomax1946]

@@lennixjones I know that more then anyone I am shock you know that also but Michael always inspired and base his solo tours on triumph tour

[@FroMarty]

@@lennixjonesthe lip lynchig outnumbered the amount of singing by History unfortunately

[@badtourerasalt]

Turns out there is a higher quality version of this I guess.

[@wilmmerwest3876]

Which I have been saying but nobody listen to me😢

[@badtourerasalt]

@@wilmmerwest3876 but this still ain't the best version, pretty sure Victorycampaign84 has a ai upscaled colorful version with the audio in HQ

[@Criscilla241]

Victory Tour stop in Toronto is here on KZbin

[@wilmmerwest3876]

@@Criscilla241 😂😂😂please go away

[@Phil-zd8tn]

Huh?

[@badtourerasalt]

Please tell me you have more reports of the concert in this quality, there is new footage from here, that's not in the full concert vhs tape.

[@eph_loves_80s74]

The channel is great

[@damienlomax1946]

You would have to contact the studios who have the report

[@eph_loves_80s74]

@@damienlomax1946 ABC merged with Disney, NBC and KNBC merged with NBCUniversal and Entertainment Tonight merged with CBS too

[@jamesway]

This critic at the end is full of it. Standard concert indeed. You can look back and see the media sharpening the knives for his coming fall.

[@raymondclarke9321]

Saw it at Franklin field in Philadelphia. Didn't come close to the triumph tour in Philly in 1981

[@reneishabrooks5187]

Boy is this an example of the mania and craziness from the media that they and Michael were subject too.

[@nickpmusic]

Who just fast forward for the concert bits

[@Yobbie72]

not me; I was interested in the discussion. But I'm smart.

[@_kim123]

After a little I bit I fast forwarded too. I don’t want to hear Teds interview. He was salty and being slick in way he didn’t have too.

[@blimy01maynard30]

There wasn't an Off the Wall tour but there were Destiny and Triumph tours. I think we understate how Mike never toured without his brothers. Probably should have been straight up with telling them this was his last tour with them. But I don't blame him for getting away from his dad. Joe was making horrible decisions. Teaming with Don King should greed and selfishness especially since those were Joe's boys.

[@mgardner70]

I saw the KC tour as a kid. It was amazing. Yes. I lived through the not so subtle racism.

[@chasugc3740]

Not so subtle is an understatement. They invited the former grand marshall of the KKK to speak at my school, CSUN, in 1987-88. I was there, attending the school. I remember it well. Rodney King beating in 1991. Those were horrible times for black people. Today we still have things like the black guy killed while jogging and the George Floyd situation. Being black in America...today and yesterday. And, if we say anything about it, we are still wrong, according to them. We have "Victim Mentality" according to them for even speaking on it. So, they put the guilt of their racial violence on us. The guilt should be on them, not us.

[@africkinamerican]

" Horrible times for black people"? That's a huge, sweeping generalization. Many black people were living good lives , enjoying upward mobility and not really even thinking about racism. Absolutely we had economic inequality and recessions and chronic unemployment for some. The ghetto had lots of problems. The drugs, the violence , the gangs, et cetera. I do believe this country's policies on drugs have been evil and hypocritical. But most of us, even then, did not live in the ghettos , were not involved in the drug economy or other illegal activity, and our lives were not this hellish existence -- just normal lives with normal problems , like our neighbors of all races. The Rodney King beating was horrible, but was big news because it was not an everyday thing. Today, you could almost count all the truly innocent (unarmed/not resisting) black people who are killed by police on two hands. While black on black killings is like the V ietnam War... no comparison. Focusing forever on racism blinds us to the problems we have to fix ourselves.

[@chasugc3740]

@africkinamerican You've been drinking too much of their Kool-Aid. If this country is so fair, why have we only had one black president and one black VP in the whole 400 plus year existence of this country? I also wouldn't say many, but a few. We have a few athletes, actors and musicians, but how about scholarly? We have proven that we are a talented people. See, I know why we had to create HBCU's. Without them, Kamala Harris wouldn't have her degree and likely wouldn't be VP. Yes, we deserve equal footing, and we've never received it. How do you make people work for free for over 250 years and never, ever compensate them? I won't even go into all the other atrocities inflicted on black people, even until today. I won't pretend like everything is rosy like some people. To do so, is a slap in the face of our struggle. See, I remember black Wallstreet and what we are capable of as a people, and I see the ghettos we have been thrown into and mocked for, while they burned down our models of success. Sure, there may be a few who escape injustice, but it isn't the norm. To pretend otherwise is a slap in the face to all the George Floyd's, Martin Luther King's, and Emmet Till's, who gave their lives for racial injustice. Don't be an Uncle Tom. Know thy history. Study it. "Sound Of The Police" is a good place to start. Our oppression is legendary, but no, it won't stop our greatness, just because we are dark skinned. No, that is what fueled our greatness, even while it was fueling the hate against us. We shall overcome.

[@shawnhunter7541]

And 30 dollars was expensive in 1984 when the average ticket was 6.50 and 7.50 the day of.

[@cool_cat007smoove3]

Naw.. $13 average on the high end $18

[@XP9724]

I wish the tour would've gotten properly released on DVD or digitally, they recorded the shows but never released them for people to buy

[@Anthony-in4ss]

They did this without social media 🤯

[@jenjay0167]

I’m guessing the “critic” lost his job after saying the concert wasn’t worth the price. 😂😂

[@charlesgreen7469]

I saw the Victory Tour in Jacksonville Florida in 1984

[@hutch1197]

All the problems this tour had were self-inflicted by Joseph Jackson and Don King, and their greed. Michael opposed the ticket system, and was furious with his father and brothers for how the fans were treated. The tour started losing money because there so many greedy people taking a piece of the pie. The brothers wouldn't even show up to the stadiums in the same car because they were all fighting. The only people stopping the Jacksons from success were the Jacksons themselves. Michael should have toured alone. Most of the songs they performed were his anyway.

[@aaronolson5434]

💩BIG EGOs!!!!💩

[@joshua2k526]

That's right

[@seanahmed9079]

This was the start of Michael Jackson's love story with "controversy"!!

[@darenross3337]

I was there August 1984 Pontiac,Michigan

[@sandramunoz425]

AWESOME VIDEO 📹 MR JACKIE JACKSON AND HANDSOME MAN 👨 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@msmagic1568]

18:07-18:42 he was trying to find the right words😂. His ex wife actually ran him down with the car after catching him with Paula Abdul.

[@lamontbradford4630]

Jackie wasn’t there because his wife ran over him when she caught him at the drive in messing around with Paula Abdul.

[@Lightskin-i1k]

How do you know

[@tiffanylewis7633]

Michael didnt want too di the tour anyway ..his mother talked him into doing this tour ..because of his mother he decided too do it

[@bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746]

The concert was amazing me and some of our classmates slept outside so we can get our tickets outside the stadium

[@davidjefferson69]

I have and still feel bad for michael even today I never know all this was going on back then michael at the height of his music career was very much an anomaly this much popularity was not supposed to happy for a single performer he was just one person and he did not control the cost of tickets plus millions of ppl just wanted to see him then there was the rumors about his brothers and there alleged jealousy and money issues I thought he handled all this like a pro I'm a mj fine for life and I never believed the child cases that were charged against him this just shows you how humanity will still turn against you as soon as its convenient so sad

[@chevypreps6417]

The biggest mistake Micheal made was ruining his face with plastic surgery. He was much better looking Ala natural.

[@TheFame5000]

They make it seem as if the Taylor Swift ticket debacle is unprecedented, but this video is proof that it’s been happening for a long time.

[@jody8526937]

I would rather see The Jackson’s than a solo Michael show. There and is something special about a family act. Michael is debatable about the greatest performer however the Jackson are undoubtedly the greatest family act of all time.

[@JGMP2010]

Bullshit. Nothing to debate. They called him the king for a reason.

[@tur74d56]

To bad it never came to the UK , Even Michael said this

[@chasugc3740]

Yeah, but Michael went all over the world with his Bad tour, and his History tour.

[@Danny-sd5vm]

The mafia was still extremely strong in the music and concert industry in the early 80's. You better believe they all got their piece of the pie.

[@gregman05]

the more things change with ticket sales, the more they unfortunately stay the same

[@hatednyc]

When people watched the show with their eyes instead of through the screen of their phones.

[@oscarfairley6600]

It was a mess , remember it well. Don't know how my family manage to get tickets, but we did.

[@christaylor7916]

How was it a mess? I'm not disagreeing or anything. I'm just interested in your opinion

[@oscarfairley6600]

@christaylor7916 at first it was a lottery system, set up by Don King. Where you had to buy four tickets at $140. No choice of seating, or even a guarantee that you will get tickets. Your money would be refunded to you. That was hated by almost everyone. The media went nuts. Don King was fired , and the Jacksons drop that plan. It was so dislike Michael took a beating in the press. And this was months before the start of the tour. Michael had to have a press conference in which he announced that he going to donate his tour money to charity, all of it. Across the country different cities was trying make money off the tour in shady ways. This was the concert tour that changed how tours on done since.

[@bradgarnerjackson5channel897]

There tickets alot cheaper than the concert tickets today!!!

[@anthonylarthur7477]

For some reason looking at Jackie's interview with Ted, kinda' tells me that he's not an honest down to earth person but, that's just me.❤

[@kathie1499]

SRSLY!! You can’t get tickets for 1 person now for $120 for 4 ppl. How time flies. Would never fly today.

[@NYVoice]

Ticket sale controversy. Oh gee, where did we hear this recently?

[@mitchellbanks34]

You can just tell that The Jacksons were not that well equipped for dealing with tough interviewers. Not very articulate at all. When they weren’t talking about how “they do it for their fans”, and how they “had been performing for so many years that they feel most comfortable on stage” they didn’t know how to deal with difficult questions. It also proved that the brothers were being greedy. How does someone who is wealthy go on national television and say that $120 is not a lot of money? Terrible PR answer. It’s the reason Michael gave up all his earnings for that tour. It was damage control so he wouldn’t look like this greedy money grubber. With him being the frontman of The Jacksons, he was taking most of the heat.

[@OrdinaryG33K-SF]

4 tickets for $120? How prices for live concerts have changed (even adjusting for inflation)...

[@markr.devereux3385]

I remember the controversy about the ticket scalping and ripoffs and all the hype. The money men got into the mix. I thought the victory tour was over hyped.

[@kathythompson8642]

I seen the Jackson's in Philadelphia. The Spectrum. With all the controversy Mike donated all his earnings from victory to charity

[@areguapiri]

I "saw"...

[@kathythompson8642]

@@areguapiri sorry were not in grammar school. Screw off.

[@__ghostwolf__]

MJ should have just done a thriller tour