179 dead in South Korean plane crash

[@BuddahHass2360]

The 2 that survived is going to have a hell of a story to tell..

[@Azkar-x4k]

also probably many powerful people dont want them to talk..keep an eye on them.

[@williamkreth]

And probably severe case of survivors guilt

[@First1ToComment]

Cabin crew followed the safety videos

[@BuddahHass2360]

My question is why is the a concrete wall at the end of the runway, out of all things to have at the end of the runway a concrete wall shouldn't be.

[@frontiermt]

It'll be lucky to get both survivors to talk it appears one of them won't be able too. Hope both make a full recovery but to survive something of that magnitude it's a miracle they survived that crash.

[@alexwattaul7237]

Why is there a wall 🧱 at the end of the runway?

[@cjhoward409]

Because people live on the other side. Many city airports have these. I remember seeing one all the time at an airport in Chicago. It’s a very congested area of homes and streets and businesses. Got to protect the general public from the rare occasion that you have a runaway out of control plane

[@tckm9674]

@@cjhoward409 I'm hearing other people say that there's just empty land behind the wall, and that those walls are typically designed to break apart to a certain extent to help slow planes in this type of situation down. The engineers that designed that thing are gonna be real silent when they get asked about it I'm sure. It took a tragedy like this to realize that there was essentially a death trap sitting at the end of their runway.

[@baltakatei]

Spikes were too expensive?

[@freewheeler1728]

That wall was at the BEGINNING of the runway, NOT the end of the runway - the plane landed in reverse direction, but it's obvious that they didn't quite figure out flight runway can't have specific direction in the time of emergency

[@shauryasingh4326]

​​@@freewheeler1728 speed of the plane was also a factor I remember same situation also happen in India, so pilot burn all the fuel and had emergency landing

[@Dev-op7kn]

The plane was completely intact after touch down, it was still protecting the passengers. It was that wall. Why’s there a wall at the end of the runway- they usually use chained link fences. People would’ve survived

[@thekoolster1014]

Not even. Most international airports are built in the heart of huge cities. Chances are, a chain link fence could’ve meant more lives lost. That plane was zooming. Any other structures on the other end of the runway beyond the fence would’ve been bulldozed.

[@trantho9891]

​@@thekoolster1014no building/house after the wall, it is still in the airport area, not in living areas.

[@freewheeler1728]

That wall was at the BEGINNING of the runway, NOT the end of the runway - the plane landed in reverse direction, but it's obvious that they didn't quite figure out flight runway can't have specific direction in the time of emergency

[@kristianawilson5996]

@@freewheeler1728 I think what's sad is that many international airports do not have it on either side, and the Korean government didn't use those examples to influence their own layout :(

[@anthonysaponaro6318]

They would have been OK if they landed the opposite direction but it looks like the engines disallowed taking the chance of another go around, so they needed to get it down going this direction, my questions are. Why was the jet not configured for landing in any way and why did they touch down damn near half way down the runway at that speed? The digital recording devices will /should tell most of n the answers

[@jacquelinemiguez1326]

They should investigate the AIRPORT NOT JUST THE AIRPLANE

[@rts9423]

check who was preparing s korea plane in bangkok thailand, are there russian nationals

[@rts9423]

Why landing gear was malfunctioning. Hardly because of birds

[@rts9423]

Maybe sabotage in Bangkok airport

[@speedofram1458]

@@rts9423Landing gear didn’t malfunction; it was crew incompetence. They were freaking out and forgot to deploy landing gear. They did use the flaps correctly. They most likely shutoff engine #1 midair which caused the plane to start going down. They turned it on after a while though. Why they didn’t land at Seoul is beyond me.

[@XwwXr]

​@@rts9423 blaming russia? 😂 Classic..

[@t3mp3redc60]

so sad that it took such a tragic accident for them to finally look at how bad the airport design was

[@eangelford7626]

My deepest sympathies to all the families and friends of the loved ones lost. Praying for the two others, a speedy recovery.

[@axlariete]

ILS protected - 1, People protected - 0.

[@PiNKUZi]

The fact that could’ve been avoided is beyond heartbreaking 😢

[@pushpathefire1377]

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[@deeptelstra7943]

A major question would also be that " Who filmed this specific plane entire landing and why exactly at this point in time and the recording was started well before the landing as well ? "

[@CaninesandFelines1326]

ppl who probably plane watch perhaps

[@michaelabreu700]

No conspiracy 😂 people watch/record planes all the time. Some even collect a bunch of toy planes like people do hotwheels

[@EL-BLANCPAIN]

This is not limited to Korea, but there are also a fair number of airplane enthusiasts in Taiwan, japan, and the United States, and I believe that they were not intentionally recording the accident, but were simply taking pictures of airplanes. As a result, a tragic incident was captured on camera. I think this could lead to PTSD for some of the people who filmed it.

[@shauryasingh4326]

Actually the person who recorded the video is a owner of a Shop near airport. He Said that he saw that a plan is landing reverse and there is many firebrigade at airport at that time. So that why he went to the rooftop of the shop and Film it. Note: this information is given by the korean media.

[@deeptelstra7943]

Understood, 1. if a plane enthusiast , he should possess many plane videos at the airport, if he films the plane rarely, then definitely the camera would never be steady like a seasoned Video Grapher. 2. If he is a shop owner, I believe its an awkward place for the shop to be, and there is no reason for him to be on top of the shop before the explosion, I did see his video where he explained that he had come to the upstairs after hearing or seeing the fire engines , then why did not he show up the fire engines as well in the video, he was so specific about the plane. I still see there is a dot missing.

[@reecom9884]

The jet was on final to land, when it suddenly declared a “May Day” and tried to do a go-round. After starting a mis-approach, the jet never gained enough altitude to re-enter the landing pattern. Unexpectedly, instead of doing a mis-approach and trying to land with the wind on the active runway, the jet did a 180° turn and landed wheels up without flaps, slats and with a tail wind.

[@ammadhassan79]

Pakistanis stands with you 🇵🇰. A very heartbreaking event . May Allah give patience to the families .

[@Ben-AnsonLim]

Saved by plane, killed by airport

[@relighg]

Did she say Boeing?? Not surprised

[@Dev-op7kn]

Nah. That plane was fully in tact on touch down. It’s the wall that fcked it up.

[@tral403Hrytw]

@@Dev-op7kn No the flaps didnt open and landing gear didnt work; Boeing needs to be put out of business.

[@buckeyestate5133]

​@tral403Hrytw I really think you should take a step back on this one and ask questions like how long has this plane been in service? What's its maintenance schedule like? Did pilots make errors like not use the flaps? There's a lot going on with this crash. I can't blame the manufacturer if the airline failed to maintain parts of the aircraft properly or pilots made errors.

[@tral403Hrytw]

@@buckeyestate5133 Give me a break; We know about 737 being death trap; and we are dealing with horror show. It will contiune to happen. Stop defending a criminal organization. This plane should be take off the market and banned.

[@realchimera99]

@@tral403Hrytwplease do not blame Boeing. Lots of things are wrong in this tragedy. The pilot landed in the middle of a runway in the opposite direction and hit the concrete wall, which is the beginning of that runway. Just wait to see more details from the investigation

[@deeptelstra7943]

The wall is in there because the plane was approved for a landing in the opposite direction , the approval was provided considering the landing gear opening.So the main question here to investigate is why the landing gear did not open. The only cause will be if both the engines failed, however there is still a backup control system to open the landing gear. There is some puzzle to be solved here. The black boxes will not reveal anything mostly but can provide some clue.

[@blakenunndrums]

Answer: Boeing...

[@KS0102]

Always, ALWAYS have a breakaway fence. Never unstall a wall for a barrier around a runway.

[@-2u2]

So sad that this happened. The unfortunate thing is the design of this airport, who would put a concert wall at the end of a runway... This is a fairly typical belly landing that everyone should have been able to walk away from, if it were not for the wall constructed directly at the end of the runway.

[@TropicsAndFood]

At least the anchor said the wall killed the passengers

[@cjhoward409]

No landing gear down. Full speed coming in “hot” !

[@LookingForLayRoblox]

My friend was on that plane! I haven’t heard from her since, I don’t know if she died or not.

[@jchambers2586]

They were so focused on a engine failure that they forgot to put the landing gear down how dumb can you be

[@dazzclazz2222]

Airports are supposed to be spacious enough for emergency landings!!! Takeoff operations can go wrong and need the required amount of terrain to land safely. That is why we take shuttles around the airport because the property is SUPPOSED to be massive!!!

[@RaySon-kc6wb]

What an idiot puts a fence at the end of the runway R.I.P!❤

[@anlangms4208]

Horrible . That pilot kept that nose up all the way down that runway only to slam into a wall. They could have all survived 😢

[@ShenghaoWang-xr6zu]

We also had a plane crash in China🇨🇳 in 2022. We feel your pain and extend our condolences to the families who lost their loved ones 💔. We want the truth to be revealed as soon as possible. Rest in peace, 7C2216.

[@nutella2025]

What a horrible way to see the end of the year

[@tanzi2405]

how does a bird strike cause the landing gear to not deploy??

[@AlexanderBansemer-PupGuru]

They choose to not deploy the landing gear. Landing gear creates less time in the air. The nose dips down. And the birds shut off the engines. It's safer to land without landing gear in certain cases when an engine fails. The wall killed them.

[@deathlarsen7502]

Bird strike my ass yeah right Bird strike broke the landing gear give me a break

[@sherbearpatson884]

What happened to the landing gear ?

[@mustafabaris9681]

This is most likely what happened : The pilots reported a bird strike back to the tower during their approach for lending . That bird strike caused significant damage to right engine. Technically the pilots could have landed the plane safely with just one engine but they panicked and accidentally turned off the other engine that was working just fine. At this point in time the aircraft became a glider. Note that planes are designed to glide in the air without falling down in case of an engine failure. At the point, the pilots made a decision to belly-land and INTENTIONALLY did not deploy the landing gear ( Planes are designed in such a way that even if the aircraft loses all engine power the pilots can still deploy the landing gear manually ) . In this case, however, the pilots intentionally chose NOT to deploy the landing gear and the flaps to gain more time for their landing ( At this point since they were gliding and going down fast, deploying the landing gear and the flaps would have lessened the time they had before reaching the airport ) so in order to gain more time to stay in the air they chose NOT to deploy the landing gear and the flops. However, there was one big obstacle in their way, the stupid concrete wall that was built at the end of the runway. Had the wall not been there most of the people, perhaps, all of the people would have survived as the end of the runway was just empty land.. It is heart-breaking and sad to know that all these 179 people died when they could have been saved .. My condolences to the families effected by this tragedy .. 🥲🥲

[@Azkar-x4k]

this is probably what happened..

[@Azkar-x4k]

(from account @Napouille a perspective that needs to be shared for understanding purposes): "I very humbly admit that I do not understand it from a technical point of view. I will go into a little detail to explain what bothers me in the sequence of events (at least what we know with all the usual precautions as of December 30, 2024). First of all, the ADS data from Flight radar leaves us on an approach to runway 01. Next element: this video of the aircraft flying over an unknown position and where we see engine 2 ingesting something and being seriously damaged. In this video we see an aircraft in clean configuration and with a nose-up attitude. It is difficult to know where it is but I suppose that it is a go-around after a problem during the initial approach to runway 01 (where FR24 had left us). Why did they go around? ATC had warned 2 minutes before the mayday of a high bird risk. We will know with the recordings. So birdstrike engine 2 during the go-around on runway 01, misdiagnosis in the panic and shutdown of engine 1 which was probably viable. We end up with an aircraft that only has the residual thrust of the damaged engine 2. Hence the 180 to come and land urgently against QFU… That's for the scenario. Then there is the operation of the 737 hydraulic system which does not explain the configuration of the aircraft as we see it (with difficulty) on the video. Normally there are 3 hydraulic systems: A, B and standby. System A is responsible among other things for the landing gear, a reverser and ground spoilers. B manages the high lift such as the flaps and the leading edge slats among a myriad of other systems. Systems A and B are pressurized and powered by two pumps each. An electric pump and a pump driven by the associated reactor (A-reactor 1 / B-reactor 2…. Logical!). It is this reactor pump that interests us here, we are talking about the engine motor driven pump (EMDP), it is mechanically linked to the reactor, we cannot stop it strictly speaking if the reactor is running, we can only cut off the hydraulic fluid supply. So if the reactor stops, we lose the EMDP and the power it provided to the hydraulic system A or B. But so what? There is still the electric pump! It is certainly 6 times less powerful but it alone allows all the hydraulic systems to be activated and operated, but at a lower speed. We can completely extend the landing gear if we have an engine 1 failure (responsible for system A and therefore the landing gear) thanks to the electric pump which continues to operate as long as it is supplied with electricity. Same for the flaps, it can be configured with the electric pump and even in the event of a total failure of the hydraulic system B thanks to the standby system. To reverse it straight it does not need to go into ground logic to deploy, it can be deployed manually by the pilot if the radio altimeter indicates being less than 10ft from the ground (to avoid ground effect, which I presume the pilots of this flight identified well). So it is really confusing, an engine failure or even the shutdown of both engines does not cause the total failure of the associated hydraulic systems which would prevent a landing configuration. We can imagine that the crew preferred not to configure the aircraft to preserve the altitude as much as possible for fear of not making the runway if they had released all the contrails or a combination of them (maybe just the landing gear and a few notches of flaps would have been enough). A lot of supposition but I share here my understanding of this machine and also my doubts. If anyone wants to add something or correct me, it is more than welcome! Very affected by this accident and this chaotic end of year for aviation, we must shed light on these events and have in our hearts the innocent and the missing colleagues 🕊"

[@cjhoward409]

But what is on the other side of that concrete wall ? Many homes ? I’m guessing it’s a highly populated area. I’ve seen concrete walls at the end of runways where there’s hundreds of homes. So… having that wall there probably saved 500 people.

[@realchimera99]

It is almost a suicide mission to choose emergency landing without landing gear on a runway where there is a concrete wall instead of a fence which is more common border for the airport

[@tomhasyourlocatenow]

@@cjhoward409Pfft… no it’s not. Search internet before comment lol.

[@Becka-n1e]

The people in the back of the plane weren’t able to survive ?

[@darthv.g235]

Sadly no, but for two flight attendants seating in the back , facing rearwards

[@LAddjfg938]

2 people survived

[@2drunksracing]

How does a plane strike prevent landing gear and reverse thrustino? Nose was still high going down runway, indicating full thrust. Plus there are no lowerd flaps. This was more of a captain suicide.

[@meesh1002]

It’s a number of things, not just one. You first see an error as they slowly started to descend. There was a stall in the left engine (seen on camera) by possible bird. That has nothing to do with the hydraulic landing gear though. Instead of the pilots staying in air to assess the situation, they decided to just bypass it and land. The localizer antenna placement is a major no no in the states for that reason that took place in the crash. When you fly in different countries, that’s the risk you take. There are less regulations than in the states

[@JohnOneal-q2d]

Them are two blessed people man prolly will cry like mad crazy i know inwould

[@stratocasterblue]

So if you look close at the video where the white smoke is, When the plane struck the birds you can see on the left of the white puff a smaller darker cloud and hydraulic fluid is dark, When the plane hit the birds they bent or broke a blade causing a metal piece to fly around inside and cut a hydraulic line and all hydraulic pressure was bled off, That explains the small dark cloud of liquid and with an open circuit none of the pumps will work they just dump fluid on the engine and no pressure for anything. That is also why no flaps, No air brakes but the 737 can still control rudder, Elevators and ailerons with backup cables so they were able to land with control but without flaps your stall speed would be much higher explaining the high speed landing and it explains why they would choose a belly landing knowing they would stop faster skidding on the fuselage and engines rather than not having hydraulic brakes on rolling wheels so they opted not to deploy gear manually and might have even thought that dirt embankment for holding up fiberglass antennas would help safely slow them how would they know it was loaded with 2 foot thick concrete

[@edwardibuan4037]

What to that plane?

[@Legion-p6y]

They built a wall at the end of the runway? Stupid is as stupid does

[@banggoman7371]

Because they know the plane wont stop anytime soon..

[@GavinPatterson-w1p]

...similar to the "Truck Run Away Lane" why don't airports have a landing strip made out of mud?? A clay lane for run away planes??? just thinking out loud. Condolences to the families.

[@briang8002]

Very sad and my condolences to the family and friends who passed away. Did the wall survive? The same type of plane hit the Twin Towers in NYC and the plane fuel melted many many floors of cement and steel beams.

[@banggoman7371]

The queztion is why belly landing?

[@Certifiedgoofyman]

That is crazy.. maybe

[@Peter-sj3ln]

Any info on the birds.? We must think of them too

[@deep1978]

Cant the passengers paraglide or something out from air when it caught fire on air

[@geofffulton9476]

Great landing by the pilot. Upon touch down the plan is totally out of their control. I'm sure the Voice Recorder will state the pilots last words "Is that a F*&%ing Wall!!!!" The survival rate would of been much much higher if the wall was not there.

[@banggoman7371]

Even worse imo..

[@Buttercup-sippy]

BOEING itself is controversial af

[@VinceBlack536]

I guess in a year I’ll see this on mayday

[@gretelgrant-gomez5379]

Looks like lot belly landing since 2011

[@ecmccarthy1945]

Boeing 737 ?

[@ToliveisChristPhilippians121]

So so sad. ❤ My prayers go out to those who lost precious loved ones. Sorry for your loss. God cares. 기도할께요.^^ 힘네세요.

[@ititheocon]

That danm bird

[@eosantigen]

For some extremely weird reason, I get a feeling that all of those recent plane incidents are somehow related to the Doors that the Pope had opened in Rome . (Everyone is free to prove it but for some dark reason it can not be proved 😉)

[@Beltway]

What doors lol

[@yumbie2003]

Can someone tell why there isn't a stopping net at the end of runways like the one in the 40 some yrs old movie. BTW anyone remember that movie please let me know. 🙏

[@thomas.maryland6902]

യഥാർത്ഥ്യത്തിൽ ലാൻഡിംഗ് സമയത്ത് പുറകിലത്തെ വീല് കാണാമായിരുന്നു. പിന്നീട് അത് അകത്തേക്ക് വലിഞ്ഞു എന്ന് തോന്നുന്നു. ലോക്ക ഗ് സിസ്റ്റം ഫെയിലിയർ ആയി കാണും

[@molly7735]

Boeing 737

[@ppppapy]

of course it's a Boeing

[@tomcruise11880]

Curious about if there is any “popped- up checklist for single (left engine) engine go around procedure for Boeing 737- 800” (the aircraft model in this crash) If the aircrafts were smart enough, they might save people’s life, ensuring safer trips for everybody. For those who sacrificed in this crash, please R.I.P. 🙏

[@cloakofanonymity]

Sure are a lot of NTSB people on here. Must have the week off for New Years.

[@cjhoward409]

We do.

[@rosex3271]

Hold accountable and responsible Boeing manufacture for risking and harming innocent lives‼️ 😢😭😰😱

[@UT48D]

Yes, totally they need to hold Boeing accountable for that concrete wall. People like you disgust me!

[@90swerethebest10]

Who built the concrete wall at the end of the runway? Those passengers would still be alive.

[@cjhoward409]

@@90swerethebest10no. And anyone living on the other side would’ve died too. That’s why there’s a wall there. To stop an out of control plane from slamming into a neighborhood

[@PPTendor]

@@UT48D people like YOU make me feel embarrassed

[@rosex3271]

@@UT48D 😂🤣 People like you need to think before you "disgust" yourself‼️ 😂🤣 Why now a days Boeing planes have more problems, crashes, fires, broken, and killings of all⁉️ What happened to the plane's landing gears⁉️ Why didn't they deployed⁉️ Why didn't the plane slowed down when landing⁉️ If the plane didn't go straight into the concrete wall when it was at the end of run way then do you expect it to slammed into thousands of people at the airport, into a crowded neighborhood, or what⁉️ 🤔🙄🤷🤦🙅🤢🤮🤬😰😱

[@yuxuanzheng9750]

We are at the tail end of 2024, this is no longer acceptable…

[@hermonogbamichael8599]

Ban boing 737

[@YoussefMosaad-wr1rr]

Omg

[@lauverr3808]

🥺🥺🥺

[@Stellalalal]

The thing is it might not actually be birds- it could be bird-shaped drones sent from North Korea. Right now, South Korea is in a state of anarchy (since the president was impeached a couple of weeks ago.) When the conservative president, who was pro-American, was impeached, a law was also passed to convert this awful airport into an international airport. What's even more suspicious is that the accident happened exactly 21 days after the law was passed. Doesn't that raise questions? I don't understand why a solid concrete localizer was placed at the runway, why anti-American, pro-China progressive politicians pushed for this airport to become international, why only one bird alert officer was on duty, or why the Air Traffic Controller directed the pilot to land in the opposite direction despite knowing about the concrete localizer. Isn't this all too suspicious? But they overlooked that Boeing is the manufacturer of the aircraft. If they (politicians and medias) insist that the cause of the accident was an airframe defect, Boeing won't just sit quietly- they will bring everything to light.

[@irenegea7644]

Boeing is often crash compare to Airbus. What happen Boeing?

[@tral403Hrytw]

Boeing is a criminal organization! Again 737 crash; flaps didnt open and nor did the landing gear.

[@naka-YAYA-plaza]

pilot error. don't even try to blame the Boeing

[@jimmyb6842]

Sum Ting Wong, Fri Ling Lo, Ho Lee Fook

[@cjhoward409]

Wingtoolo, bangdingow

[@JapanJzGTE]

im pretty sure that a pilot have no choice way to go died =/ sorry to heard about this happened . hurting my feel ever i seen this

[@valerymonneron9357]

Boeing is in serious trouble , a Dutch airplane KLM has similar problem …engine blowing up . kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4PPiGV4rdSLjqMsi=Fha8kV3jZCcb76rW