ABEC 11 107mm Wheels VS Evolve Boards 97mm wheels on GTR Bamboo review

[@luisseminario4790]

You are more informative than evolve staff vid’s. Thanks!!!

[@eboardlifestyle]

agreed

[@ryankelly6392]

I've been using the 107mm for two years now and probably cover 50 miles per week and the performance are still as good as when I frist got them, incase anyone is wondering how they hold up over time, visually not so good but that doesn't worry me

[@slh7808]

Have you changed them yet?

[@9baristaespresso]

This is so helpful, you're literally testing the wheels on the exact same road I commute to work on! Thanks for the video, just bought some 107s.

[@luciovincenzo]

Love how this review is in my home town, was worried about cambridge being rubbish for skating but he's using it around here so I'm glad

[@idontwannaidontwanna7307]

I'm really grateful to have found your channel. You seem to answer all of the questions I've got (with the categories you focus on). Great work...keep it up! Cheers!

[@krivo86]

Your reviews are some of the best out there! Excellenty presented and very detailed! Great job! However I'll have to disagree with you on the wheels :) At first the 107 really feel amazing, so smooth and feel as if they can absorb anything on it's path. However they have a few issues. 1) you cannot slide with them. 2) Due to its softness and bouncing they have a tenancy to throw you off when carving too hard or hitting a crack in the road at high speeds. (So many have reported this and I could feel why after some time riding them) Wheel preference is a very personal thing though and it depend on your riding style and terrain. For me the GTR 97's are a clear winner for to its versatility and feel, but both are fantastic wheels for what they offer though no doubt.

[@averageeskatereviews]

It’s for sure a case of riding style/preferences I enjoy the 107 but still see many benefits with 97

[@macewindex8410]

average eskate reviews that’s the beauty of longboards. There is no best load out. Everything from the deck to the wheels is personal preference.

[@matthewpletcher4452]

thanks for the great review. one critique-when using the brakes you are braking, not breaking which would imply something was going to break. I don't like anything to break especially when bombing along the road.

[@bigg7g]

In the short amount of time that I have begun researching electric skateboards I have come to realize that this gentleman‘s insights are definitely worth listening to. I have not yet obtained a board of my own but his opinions will inform that decision. I’m open to a hand me down board if you’re up to it 😆

[@Icaruj]

Your videos are the best out there on electricskate board topic. Keep them coming!

[@HowAboutNooooooooo]

Thx for the video mate! Helped me a lot. Just ordered the 107s. I wish they would be on sale in white. Love white wheels on my longboards.

[@chrispearce6555]

Great review, educated point of view and technical. Great to hear! Keep up the good work mate.

[@averageeskatereviews]

Big thanks Chris

[@MrPhillipsTheChangeAgent]

Good review. Looking forward to reviewing one of these boards.

[@ryannelson7967]

Legend! Defs gonna order the big boys with my 2 in 1 now

[@farkoffcnt]

Was these tests done with 32t gears for both wheels?

[@FaBi-xm8so]

I have the 107mm with 38T. Any experience on the range difference between 38T and 32T on these wheels?

[@davidwilson149]

I have a first generation with one motor. Do the 83-97-107 all interchange in street mode

[@phelpsyfps336]

Great video I bought my bamboo gtx in just the AT configuration and when these wheels were released a while ago I decided to buy a street conversion kit with the 107s and I was very impressed with how smooth they felt compared to my meepo board which had 90mm I think

[@flaberdoopin]

Great video as always. I’m gonna have to get a set of these 107s!

[@cmxxiv.xcix_]

110mm torque boards vs 107s?

[@BushmansAdventures]

Brilliant review! Very informative, thank you from BC CANADA 🤠

[@geoffnavolt1970]

Thinking on getting a miles board sex panther but a youtuber says its out dated. It has 2 1500w motors for 3000 total. I am looking at the evolve gtr carbon street with 6000w total. The literature says gtr gets 27 mph but the sex panther gets 30mph. Shouldn't the bigger motors go faster?

[@fazer12779]

6:00 Acceleration is restored if you change to a 38T sprocket. The standard 97mm wheels with GT mode is shockingly fast, so I actually prefer the 32T set up & 107mm wheels.

[@eboardlifestyle]

i was gonna say the SAME THING. i noticed it right away

[@jeffellingboe1437]

Do you get any overheating running the 32T setup?

[@jonassvensson1819]

I know you now like pneumatic wheels on you board now but do you feel the same about the 107s in terms of being the best street wheels? Compared to the Onsra 115 rubber wheels? Would really like to know.

[@RasmusNygaard89]

Thanks for the great videos focusing on the Evolve boards! Looking forward to seeing AT vs Streetwheels, as I am a bit conflicted as to which setup I want. Your videos really help to get more insight. By the way, no need to keep the videos under 20min as long as the content is of the same quality as your previous vids.

[@chluv1]

Great video! Curious but I have the 107’s on a GTR Carbon. 107 32T setting and I can’t get more than 21 mph out of the thing on flat smooth pavement. I weigh 170 lbs.

[@huizdeeze1075]

do you use 107 with 32 or 38 T gears

[@jake9854]

how 107 compare to 105 cloudwheel?

[@Esk8Tech]

Thanks for this review. I was very close to buying the 97mm but after this I'm definitely going with the 107mm. Did you have to use the 38T gear kit ?

[@ryanclawson7307]

Have you considered trying the AT 7" wheels for the GTR? I really enjoy your videos btw, they're immensely helpful in deciding which board to go with.

[@averageeskatereviews]

Making a video on that as we speak. It’s actually done but I’m filming in kenya and forgot my hard drive with the footage. It’s coming soon

[@ryanclawson7307]

@@averageeskatereviews Awesome, I can't wait to see it!

[@azeldok]

@@averageeskatereviews sorry for the question, but how much do you weigh?

[@DeansbuddyJesus]

Just about to buy one and this is exactly what I needed to see 😁👍

[@skylar3247]

The ride of the feel?

[@gregtesta8460]

For those of you guys running a 2in1 bamboo. So you guys find yourself really switching the wheels? I sort of leaning towards being a street board only.

[@leeroyfondamiere9533]

Can you do a comparison between the standard and travel battery on the evole skate board?

[@averageeskatereviews]

100% working on a fun video for this

[@jasonhushmonkey]

Stoke comes with the travel battery

[@rayl6970]

Can you put these on a boosted board?

[@jamiemuir1557]

I bought these and found they lead you into a false sense of security grip wise . If you are into heavy carving they will grip to a point but then suddenly give but not in a controlled way like my regular downhill board of other sk8’s . They are also heavy if that bothers you which it did me .Makes a already heavy board even heavier . The trouble is the sheer amount of pu around the centre core of the hub is always going to cause twisting and movement under load . In my opinion i think they are not worth the trade up . 97’s seem to be the best option but that’s based on my ride style (aggressive ) where as they might suit riders who like long distance commutes .

[@ObjectiveTruthIsReal]

I really enjoy your videos! Keep up the great work. I currently have the AT's on my GTR Bamboo. After this review, I need to really get a set of these! But I will wait for you to review the ATs and see if spending the money for the 107 are worth it.

[@commonalias]

very convincing, def ordering the big wheels - noob here - can someone tell me if these are universal for all brands like Wowgo or only4Evolve?

[@ivantenhave6131]

Sorry see this is quite an old post now, but are you changing the gears at the same time as the wheels? THink Evolve suggest the 38T gear with the 107mm wheels?

[@nickdriessen6159]

Do you know how they ride on a standard longboard? Does it for example slow down faster cause of the softness? Or does the size of the wheel compensate with the softness?

[@pete24p]

would these larger wheels work with the wowgo 3x belt drive board?

[@614CamStanley]

Just got the hadean how do I get the fastest top speed out of the board I hit about 22-24 mph I want to get to at least 28-30

[@614CamStanley]

And how will I get the best speed without putting to much ware on the mortar or battery

[@damonstoyvideos4435]

Abec 107 or cloudwheels?

[@drac1276]

Great vid as always. I'd be very interested in your thoughts on the TorqueBoard 110mm 74A wheels especially in comparison to the Abec 107s. Love your channel mate :)

[@MichaelHurdleStudio]

Well done bro. Love your videos. I'm really thinking about getting this board. Your videos are pushing me towards getting one. I need a change from the boosted boards.

[@genesisreset3947]

Great video...as a newbie am loving the info on electric skateboard 🛹Keep making more...

[@averageeskatereviews]

Big thank you :)

[@EliteZ619]

great review as always, thanks mate, I thought the torque would be negatively affected by the 107mm... but that's probably covered in acceleration :) Thanks always for your time Chris!

[@aleszverca]

Hey, is it possible to use standard ABEC core clone pulleys or are Evolve pulleys necessary for the F1 wheels?

[@honkskillet]

Will these fit on the Stoke?

[@MichaelWagner-z4k]

Thinking about getting the new series 2 gtr(1100 usd is reasonable imo) . Just hesitant because of the deck width I prefer a wider deck with my size 11 shoe. Paired with the new mad v2s the bamboo gtr would be both super comfy and retain that low flicky stable street wheel feel

[@1msdavid1]

Which gear will give you the best range with either the 97 or 107?

[@Scheltokeeper]

I really like the 97ers because IMO, it is the best compromise between speed, torque, comfort and range. Especially range!

[@orlandomarinjr]

Yes this

[@idontwannaidontwanna7307]

I forgot to ask. Re: acceleration with the 107's, which gear setup are you currently using?

[@averageeskatereviews]

32T but switching to 38T for a little test

[@nearheaven5311]

Very informative! Thanks for sharing this good info.

[@bobwyattfpv9847]

That’s it then. 107’s for me. Was thinking about getting the 97’s but seeing your review sealed it. 👍🏻✌🏻

[@averageeskatereviews]

Really glad I could help :)

[@slayyyy]

So, what do you think? How do they carve and handle compared to the 97s?

[@DiehoSRS]

do you know if i can use these wheels in a slick revolution board?

[@averageeskatereviews]

Yes you can

[@ericsoto1891]

Great review! I have the same exact setup as you. 100% agree that the 107's is the perfect match for the Evolve GTR. I got the red 107's from Metroboards website. They look SICK!!! So now, if you could get your hands on some 120mm foamies, that should be an interesting review. I have those as well. I can say that they are even softer and roll over just about anything without having to use pneumatics. The problem with them is the range. It suffers. I did hit 27mph with them though which is nice. I switched to the 38T gear to get me better range and that worked; however, my top speed dropped a lot. Was only able to achieve a 22mph top speed which sucks. I wish there was a happy medium with the 120 foamies as the feel even better than the 107's.

[@5r5d5c5v5g5t5f]

How much range were you getting with the 32t compared to the 38t? Also have foamies and was considering getting 38t gears.

[@whitneybobbitt3859]

When you increase to 107's, are there other parts you need to buy to accommodate the size change? If so what other parts and what are the details needed to purchase them?

[@87MockingOwl]

riding on rough roards would dictate to switch to 80 wheels for better experience? can someone give me a lil of explanation about it? the GTR is my first board sooo.....

[@KonstantinosMp]

AT wheels* (All-Terrain) :)

[@MrBlompod]

awesome review mate thanks, I'll get a set for my GTR

[@TheShazstar]

Great vid. Ive got 97s, 107s and the new foamies. The foamies have become my favourite wheel. You should check them out. Happy to let you try them for a vid

[@azeldok]

Hi, if it’s not difficult, answer, is the range greatly lost when changing from 107 wheels to 120? Sorry for my English))

[@iimaginedesign4217]

Can you please review the Evolve Stoke? You have the best eskate board reviews!! Very cerebral.

[@averageeskatereviews]

The board is on the way!

[@Bulletly]

R u using bigger gear like 38T or just 32 T for 107mm

[@gghdjekrkk7711]

He uses 32

[@averageeskatereviews]

32 indeed

[@TheMasterLunatic]

What would be the difference if you did change to a 38T? Better acceleration? I’m thinking of buying them but not sure if I want the gearing also..

[@ryanclawson7307]

Can you review the Wowgo 3X?

[@averageeskatereviews]

If Wowgo want to send us one.

[@johanandersson3952]

Great review! Would you think the Abec 11 97 mm with the same softness also work better on rough roads than the Evolve 97s? Thanks

[@averageeskatereviews]

Thank you! Personally, I would always go with the biggest wheel for the most comfortable ride.

[@feggelindh7584]

Abec 97 74a are same feel better in some ways i feel . Both are great wheels and you should have both in your setup ... I have done over 20000 km on my 97 they just last super quality Evolve wheels are waist of time ...

[@chefbgordon8892]

I went from 70mm on my landyatchz to 90mm and oh boy do I love them way better

[@chocolatepuddingpant]

Do the 107s, come with belt covers? Or is that sold separately?

[@mickithappen7844]

Chris, great review. My question to you... how was your experience after a couple hundred kilometres. Have the 107 wheels cracked or falling apart at the sides?

[@Trubyd44]

So, I'm confused now, which do you prefer and run on your Bamboo now? The 107s or the AT wheels? (The comparison video I thought you said AT, but here you say 107)

[@averageeskatereviews]

On both my GTR’s I have AT. Carbon is running 7” bamboo is running 6”

[@neilroberts8112]

Would you consider doing a review on cloud wheels?

[@averageeskatereviews]

I would for sure.

[@a.e.r.r.o.c]

i weigh about 129 pounds and 5'6. how fast do you think im going?

[@RUS38]

Acceleration doesn’t bother me at all. Honestly in 5 years of riding only a few times I switched to GT mode on my carbon. Fast mode on ABEC 11 is quick enough for me. Great review!

[@lestatdelioncourt3406]

What about the weight? How are 107 compared to the 97? I have got a GTX, which is already not light like a feather, you know... :) Thanks for the review!

[@averageeskatereviews]

I'll check and get back to you.

[@slayyyy]

@@averageeskatereviews Take your time.

[@relleeee1305]

@@slayyyy its been a year, he hasnt gotten back to you :"(

[@slayyyy]

@@relleeee1305 I've attempted suicide twice, and I wasn't even the one with the original question.

[@relleeee1305]

@@slayyyy oh... and ooops...

[@bob_8062]

Hey Chris! Love ya videos and the style u carving. Also big oppp to the camera man ! Noice footage

[@SteveWellsNZ]

What’s the intro music?

[@bob_8062]

Foamies vs 107. There is something you could chceck out Chris. I ride the AT's and thr 107 abecs. Love both of em! I still have an issue with the 107's though. I could compare them to a ride with a porsche. They have perfect grip! Unless them kill you. It happend to me several times when i was feeling confi, that i run over a small peice of stone on the street and it was just like someone would pull the carpet. The thing is, the 107 are flat, where the foamies are a bit curved and i persume that could mild that effect where its super grip or u end up down on the street. Im asking you because i see that you are pushing it with the carving also to the limit and would like to hear your opinion. Thanks a milion and greetings from swiss.

[@kemckelv]

Since I have the tb110 74a I guess there is no point in trying the abec 107s

[@andrewmurphy7799]

Hi Chris Great review on the 6" V 7" AT Wheels as well as the 97mm V 107mm. I current have a GT Carbon 2in1 that I have had since 2015, just replaced the battery, however couldn't get the proper battery from evolve, so they have sent a 7AH battery that still works although does not last as long as the original battery did. I am purchasing a new GTR Carbon and trying to order it with 6" wheels and 47 tooth drive as well as the 107mm wheels. Just to let you know that your advertised discount code does not work and is NOT recognised by Evolve Australia ??

[@rajivravio]

Nice review. Interesting you mention the larger wheels are slower to accelerate. I’m not sure how evolve calculates speed but it’s very likely the larger wheels offset the speedo given the increased wheel diameter. Did it feel slower? On the same end, the top speed might actually be faster than the 28/29 you saw as well.

[@SirJer]

Great review! I know it's been over a year... have you tried out the 107mm cloud wheels? How do think they compare to the ABEC 11 107s?

[@SuperHotBM]

Don't forget about the AEboard honeycomb wheels.

[@TheZephyr6]

Breaking?

[@TheZephyr6]

Grate review tho

[@AdrianBoisclair]

This is a great review. Fucking bad ass 107s sound LIT. It's true that you may lose torque, and acceleration but it probably makes up for in top speed. I definitely want to try these babies out.

[@davidkelly7196]

I bought these about a year ago, kept on chunking them, but they are nice wheels

[@mentuemhet]

wheels shouldn't cost so much. my 83 mm wheels cost me $26. top named manufacturers are screwing people over. their excuse is something like: "are wheels are fine balanced."

[@punjab1captain]

You know 107mm is like more than double the mass off 83mm wheels? Plus the amount or urethane is probably 3-5× as much because the core is still the same size?

[@Blandy001]

😩 i can’t decide to get caguama or 107 with my new 2-1 setup getting some 97 stone ground with them as well cause they are on sale but yeah decisions decisions

[@esk8unity]

i sold my 107s a month ago. but now im gettin another set lol

[@KalJoao]

Just subscribed, love your content! Can you do a review of the AT wheels at some point as well please? My commute is tons of gravel and pot holes, ouch!

[@hpgurgel]

Great info, thanks heaps.

[@mrmonday42]

97mm GTR wheels are the best street wheel on the market right now IMO. The compound grips really well without feeling too floaty, they are a lot lighter than the 107mm, and of course, they have better torque, acceleration, and range. To me the 107mm don't really feel like longboard wheels anymore, they don't have the same feel.

[@Mattymoneyboy276]

use 40t gearing and you'll think twice about torque

[@2dthoughts]

I’ve got several different sets of street wheels but nearly 2000 miles on my all terrain setup without swapping. Third set of tires but belts are still my originals and still look great Streets in my area suck

[@Omnitrio1]

with the GTR?

[@silvercrypto4284]

Great review 🙏

[@ryannelson7967]

Other things I have heard about the 107s is they wear or chunk faster. Obviously you havent experienced any of this yet? Also another factor to consider is sliding but maybe you arent big into that so it doesnt affect you. Generally you cant slide big soft wheels as easily :) great vid tho

[@averageeskatereviews]

Not into sliding yet but as my confidence improves, I will be :)

[@draketheman75]

Is your exway x1 pro riot review coming soon?

[@averageeskatereviews]

I would LOVE to make that video but we have 3 broken exway boards.

[@tdubz350]

Was watching your timed acceleration portion and noticed you hit 20mph in 5 seconds. My meepo v3 hits 19mph in 4 seconds!! I guess these meepos are some fast hub motor boards then? Obviously the gtr has many other pros to its design just pointing that out..

[@gghdjekrkk7711]

Because he didn't putthe max settings on the app, you can make it faster off the line

[@averageeskatereviews]

Correct

[@averageeskatereviews]

I could increase the acceleration speed with upgrading the teeth or using the app but prefer not to.

[@TATA64600]

Love this channel, it's really helpful, and footage are awesome ! Quick question, as a first purchase, first experience with e skate, but with long experience with longboard carving and sliding, would you consider start with street wheels first or AT wheels, mostly for leisure right now on roads in small town. Thanks

[@averageeskatereviews]

Difficult to say man. AT have almost endless grip carving especially in the heat of summer BUT nothing makes me happier than making a board go sideways right now 🤣😂😂 depends on your needs my guy

[@TATA64600]

@@averageeskatereviews thanks for your reply .. excuse my English but why do you mean by sideways ? 😅

[@orlandomarinjr]

Wow I lost a lot of range switching to 107m :( I am on GTX. Evolve support also said I would loose 5 miles....

[@Omnitrio1]

Yeah I am.on gtr and lost alot of range. It's a bigger heavier wheel of course you will lose range compared to 97s he was not accurate with information there.

[@garethsamuel3737]

Thanks for the insight.

[@pmacnz]

Dude you MUST try AT wheels on streets and tar. It's amazing. Eats the road. Great ride so good. Has to be tried

[@warlockboyburns]

For braking to a stop I always jump off the board anyway.

[@adamwang1731]

Do a review on wowgo 2s

[@pmacnz]

Ps I like your video style. Keep it up mate from new Zealand