Abkhazia or Georgia? The effects of war: Tskaltubo, the city of refugees

[@KissFromTheWorld]

Abkhazia, officially the Republic of Abkhazia, is a de facto and partially recognised republic on the eastern coast of the Black Sea, south of the Greater Caucasus mountains, in north-western Georgia. Its capital is Sukhumi. The separatist Abkhazian polity, formally the Republic of Abkhazia, is recognised as a state by Russia, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Nauru and Syria. While Georgia lacks control over Abkhazia, the Georgian government and most United Nations member states legally consider Abkhazia part of Georgia, whose constitution designates the area as the Autonomous Republic of Abkhazia. In the title and subtitle of our reportage, we have used the word “refugee” instead of “Internally Displaced Person” (IDP) because the word refugee is more commonly known. Our reportage aims to bring attention to the effects of war, not political debates. With regards to this, we would like to make the following clarification: An Internally Displaced Person (IDP) is someone who is forced to flee his or her home but who remains within his or her country's borders. They are often referred to as refugees, although they do not fall within the legal definitions of a refugee. Whereas “refugee” has an authoritative definition under the 1951 Refugee Convention, there is no universal legal definition of Internally Displaced Persons (IDP); only a regional treaty for African countries (see Kampala Convention). However, a United Nations report, Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement, uses the definition: "Persons or groups of persons who have been forced or obliged to flee or to leave their homes or places of habitual residence, in particular as a result of or in order to avoid the effects of armed conflict, situations of generalized violence, violations of human rights or natural or human-made disasters, and who have not crossed an internationally recognized State border." We chose the title “Abkhazia or Georgia? The effects of war: Tskaltubo, the city of refugees” because we want to draw immediate attention to the cause of the war - i.e. “Abkhazia or Georgia?”, and its consequences - i.e. “The effects of war: Tskaltubo, the city of refugees”. There will always be people who believe that Abkhazia is in Georgia, just as there will always be people who believe that Abkhazia isn’t in Georgia, regardless of political treaty. The point of our reportage isn’t this, but rather to put the spotlight on what happened after the question “Abkhazia or Georgia?”.

[@user-we6hb1vi8l]

Abkhazia is Georgia

[@islamrisul9063]

Please anyone tel me what kind of this background music name???

[@GI--RA]

Abkhazia is de facto republic. Abkhazia iz GEORGIA AND OCCUPIED BY RUSSIAN,. Abkhazia Is not official republic

[@Unknown-wb5ou]

u dont need that much word abkhazia is georgia thats all

[@heyamabaza6235]

All are Big Lies

[@mihairusu6809]

Abkhazia is Georgia. GOD bless our brothers from Sakartvelo ! With respect from Romania.

[@giorgidoborjginidze3200]

thank you and love from georgia 🇬🇪 💕🇷🇴

[@heyamabaza6235]

Your informed with big wrongs

[@mocanucatalincristi136]

here is a message from a romanian to all georgians: Not only Abkhazia or Samachablo ARE GEORGIA, but also: Jiketi (cap. Sochi ), Taman Peninsula, Dvaleti (inside ,,N. Ossetia,,), North Svaneti - mount Elbrus, in georgian იალბუზი Ilabuzi Shoana Church, Cheghem svan tower, than we have N. Khevi Mokhevi (capital Chemi inside ,,N. Ossetia,,), North. Tusheti, North Khevsureti, Dido (South of Daghestan). These are UNDER RUSSIAN OCCUPATION, not just 20 % of Georgia... Russians gave these georgian territories to N. Caucasian so-called federal republics for conflict betwin caucasians. Under TURK OCCUPATION there are: Lazica (Tzannia+Trabzon+Samsun), Tao-Klarjeti near the Tigris river and Ararat m. (the georgian Capadochia). Under AZERI OCCUPATION: Hereti, South Kaheti (s. Davif Gareji), and Shirvani till Caucasian Sea. (of course a war betwin azeri and georgians is not a reality i suppose). Under ARMENIAN occupation: ABOTSI, and LORE-GUGARETI (Tashiri), lake Sevan included Gelakuni (გელაქუნი). So there are many georgian muslims that your gouvernment doesnt want to talk of... in Iran (5 million Feyredani georgian-iranian mixed people), In Turkey Chveneburi had arrived in Turkey basically in three waves of migration due to pogroms and what is now termed ethnic cleansing of Caucasians by the Russian Empire. They number even 3 million. Than you have the Laz wich some point to as high as 1.5 million. So your dispora is very high. Not just 5.2 million speak georgian, but around 12 million. GEORGIA MY MESSAGE TO YOU: RISE ! I know you just want only Abkhazia and Samachablo back, and thats it. They had autonomy at least under Georgia, now in Rusia they have nothing- all of North Kaucasus should break free, if Russia wants these 2 Abkhazia and S. Ossetia to be independent. Freedom for Chechnya, Daghestan, Ingushetia, Cechessia, Ossetia, and form a single North Caucasus Federational state. RUSSIA IS AN OCCUPANT. Moldova is Romania. Commun enemies of georgians and romanians ? Russia (politicians, not the people)

[@prometheus5770]

Just Genatsvale (google this word) Romanian bro or sista. All the best to your great nation and country. Love your everything. Not only ours but all the east Europe's worst foreign enemy is Russia. So fuck Kremlin, their evil policy and hope for the better future. And we will fight so dedicated when needed as we have done for millenias, it was just this shithole horde that we couldn't beat but it will change

[@buenaventura538]

dobrudzha and bessarabia is romania

[@musashikuji6544]

This is a message from georgia thank you for your support 😭 GEORGIANS AND ROMANIANS ARE BROTHERS!!!!!

[@mocanucatalincristi136]

@@musashikuji6544 today i made khinkali and hatchapuri for all the people in the monastery were i live. I love Georgian food and this is how i understand to promote true values, not infused cultures of tribal apsuas or asets. I am a monk at a monastery in Transylvania. I will always pray for the unity of Georgia and Romania.

[@musashikuji6544]

Mocanu Catalin Cristi thank you!!!

[@lalitsharma740]

The most worst thing in world is loneliness.

[@lukec5957]

Abkhazia is Georgia ❤

[@lukec5957]

@@yoncornellybayondha3889 Abkhazia is Georgia.

[@lukec5957]

Why are you? What do you know about Georgia and about the history of Georgia?

[@lukec5957]

@UCqvoyegp4gbnOlWunT4HbHw In any case, you need more education, you are very blunt... sorry

[@leevancleef6200]

Abkhazia not Georgia

[@heyamabaza6235]

@@leevancleef6200❤❤❤❤❤❤😂 Abkhazia ❤❤❤❤❤👍

[@siddheshberde.5554]

It's Very Sad To see them All . Please Govt. should Pay attention For their food clothes and Proper House Also ...👍👍👍

[@vonguyen6822]

thank you for the video

[@user-fd6cg4cg6v]

Noo cuntry name georgia abkhazia georgia part

[@ajitsahni6834]

So sad 😭😭

[@awakbetul4078]

And this is the war result... What the hell, they think before war... Sad, very sad...

[@salomeal]

Abkhazeti IS Georgia. not "or" and "if"

[@mocanucatalincristi136]

here is a message from a romanian to all georgians: Not only Abkhazia or Samachablo ARE GEORGIA, but also: Jiketi (cap. Sochi ), Taman Peninsula, Dvaleti (inside ,,N. Ossetia,,), North Svaneti - mount Elbrus, in georgian იალბუზი Ilabuzi Shoana Church, Cheghem svan tower, than we have N. Khevi Mokhevi (capital Chemi inside ,,N. Ossetia,,), North. Tusheti, North Khevsureti, Dido (South of Daghestan). These are UNDER RUSSIAN OCCUPATION, not just 20 % of Georgia... Russians gave these georgian territories to N. Caucasian so-called federal republics for conflict betwin caucasians. Under TURK OCCUPATION there are: Lazica (Tzannia+Trabzon+Samsun), Tao-Klarjeti near the Tigris river and Ararat m. (the georgian Capadochia). Under AZERI OCCUPATION: Hereti, South Kaheti (s. Davif Gareji), and Shirvani till Caucasian Sea. (of course a war betwin azeri and georgians is not a reality i suppose). Under ARMENIAN occupation: ABOTSI, and LORE-GUGARETI (Tashiri), lake Sevan included Gelakuni (გელაქუნი). So there are many georgian muslims that your gouvernment doesnt want to talk of... in Iran (5 million Feyredani georgian-iranian mixed people), In Turkey Chveneburi had arrived in Turkey basically in three waves of migration due to pogroms and what is now termed ethnic cleansing of Caucasians by the Russian Empire. They number even 3 million. Than you have the Laz wich some point to as high as 1.5 million. So your dispora is very high. Not just 5.2 million speak georgian, but around 12 million. GEORGIA MY MESSAGE TO YOU: RISE ! I know you just want only Abkhazia and Samachablo back, and thats it. They had autonomy at least under Georgia, now in Rusia they have nothing- all of North Kaucasus should break free, if Russia wants these 2 Abkhazia and S. Ossetia to be independent. Freedom for Chechnya, Daghestan, Ingushetia, Cechessia, Ossetia, and form a single North Caucasus Federational state. RUSSIA IS AN OCCUPANT. Moldova is Romania. Commun enemies of georgians and romanians ? Russia (politicians, not the people)

[@georgiageorgia9128]

@@mocanucatalincristi136 iidziinaxui

[@Trendy-Trims]

@@georgiageorgia9128 წაიკითხე მაინც რას წერს.

[@heyamabaza6235]

@@mocanucatalincristi136why not MOSCW tooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤮

[@envercelik8733]

Abhazya abazalarin 👍💪👊

[@heyamabaza6235]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@MariaHelena-pb1rt]

Cristo abençoe todos...refugiados....eles nao pediram pra sair de suas czas....as guerras sao terriveis....O HOMEM FAZENDO SEU PROPIO MAL CONTRA SEUS IRMAOS.....TRISTE❤

[@seilett]

Qualche anno fa, quando andai per la prima volta in Georgia, passai una notte a Tskaltubo in un grande albergo sovietico ricostruito. Quindi ero a poca distanza da qesta gente che invece passa la vita intera in questi poveri appartamenti spesso in cattive condizioni, dopo avere subito le conseguenze dell'odio, della violenza e della ricerca del profitto. La vita sa essere grottesca e terribile. Chi può aiuti le sue vittime.

[@shavlegigogishvili4804]

როგორ დავიჯერო აფსუებო და ოსებო, რომ ბედნიერები ხართ. დამოუკიდებელ სახელმწიფოში, კარის მეზობელი მოკალი სახლი დაუწვი. მოიხმეთ თქვენნაირი ტურები და ტრაკით შეფიცეთ ერთგულება დიად იმპერიალისტურ კომუნისტური დროშის ქვეშ , მონღულური თესლითი ნაძერწი რუსული ჩექმა ჩამოცმული სამოვარზე . ამაზე გაცვალეთ საქართველო ?!! ისენი მოსულიყვნენ სტუმრად, რატო აჩუქეთ და ვისი აჩუქეთ . მინდვრის თაგვებიდან პადვლის ვირთხებად გადაიქეცით. კიდევ გაქვთ შანსი აფსუებად და ოსებად იცხოვროთ საქრთველოში ქართველის გვერდით. დიდება საქართველოს . აფხაზეთი და სამაჩაბლო საქართველოა. 🇬🇪.

[@moneyswagluigi8413]

ramdeni welia ertad vcxovrobt da araperi omi da ambavi ar yopila exla ra autydat damoukidebloba, jobia qartvelebtan ertad icxovron gachirvebashi mainc ar iqnebian. afxaztan milaparakia da meubneboda qartvelebi wyvitavdneno afxazebso mara eg tyuilia, ro gvdomoda amowyveta dges erti apsua ar iqneboda darchenili, afxazeti saqartveloa

[@heyamabaza6235]

In your DREAS only Abkhazia IS Abkhazia❤️👍

[@davidbedia722]

ABKHAZIA IS GEORGIAN NAME AND IT IS PART OF GEORGIA

[@mocanucatalincristi136]

haha i like the russian logo. Thumbs up

[@georgiageorgia9128]

@@mocanucatalincristi136 pppashol naxui

[@heyamabaza6235]

No no no …never. again Mr dreamer abkhazia for ever freeee

[@vzroslilomi8372]

Abkhazia is Georgia 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪

[@heyamabaza6235]

NEVER 👻

[@giorgigiorgi9804]

ღმერთმა გაანათოს ცვენი გმირები ვინ სისოცხე შეცირა სამშობლოსათვის სულ ია ვარდს ეხაროტ მაგათ საფლავზე ჩვენ გვახსოვს ჩვენი გმირები

[@Disciple1963]

All this happened because of georgians. They started this war. Abkhazia were occupied by georgians during stalin and beria's time. Search in youtube - senaki 28 oktober- and watch what georgian troops did with their georgian-megrelian in october 1993 when they left Abkhazia.

[@heyamabaza6235]

That is great answer for every one thank you ❤❤❤❤❤

[@envercelik8733]

Pandaria 💪👊

[@chingiz71]

What the f...ck does it mean "Ablhazia OR Georgia"? Abkhazia IS Georgia!

[@HighHeelsQueen]

Possession is 90% of the law.

[@burakbabaa4112]

YAŞASIN BAĞIMSIZ ABHAZYA

[@heyamabaza6235]

❤❤❤❤

[@dafteverton7218]

Sad :(

[@zviaditsirekidze2484]

Georgia 🇬🇪

[@user-gy8gc2ft5p]

Жалко их.😪

[@merchantfarhan6869]

In this world peoples are fighting for relegions nationality and all but here look at the life of these peoples nobody is there to think or help these peoples there is no humanity left alot of prayers from me for these peoples from india...

[@heyamabaza6235]

😭😭😭😭

[@matemikadze4134]

🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪😥

[@heyamabaza6235]

👹

[@kvtre666]

Ofcourse abkhazia was more damaged because war was on the abkhazian lands

[@heyamabaza6235]

Very true great point❤❤❤ abkazia ❤️❤️❤️❤️👍

[@indignorhousepublishing4134]

WTF. All this destruction because of who begot who?

[@envercelik8733]

Es lebe Abchasien 💪👊

[@androtchitchinadze3450]

Which side?

[@heyamabaza6235]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@heyamabaza6235]

@@androtchitchinadze3450all sides😂😂😂😂

[@GunzBlazing445]

Came after bald and bankrupt vlog

[@monmarajan4611]

Same!

[@havenmirabella3003]

This is so sad. Nationalism kills.

[@JP-nk9md]

ur mom kills

[@prometheus5770]

Kremlin kills

[@kvtre666]

Virginity kills

[@HighHeelsQueen]

Some people for 26 years after the war did absolutely nothing to improve their life conditions. Unbelievable!! Of course they live miserably. A period of 26 years is 1/3 to 1/2 of lifetime. As Abkhazians obviously do not want to belong to Georgia, the best solution to the people of both sides is to recognize reality and continue with life. It is time to live in present, not in past.

[@alexander7178]

🖕

[@khatu444]

PRESENTLY there are more than 200,000 IDPs, like people in these videos, who are not allowed to go back to their homes. Georgia will not recognize any statehood interests of regime that was built on ethnic cleansing and genocide of quarter of million people. Especially when such attitudes persist. Where ethnic Georgians living in Abkhazia face daily humiliations, harassment, and threat to their lives and ethnically cleansed IDPs are denied right to come back to their homes. When de facto government agrees to let Georgians go back to their homes, only then can there can be any talk about future and solution on statehood. Until then, Abkhazia stands as one of the last surviving examples of apartheid regime, where racism and ethnic hatred drives the day. However, realistically, this will never happen and the entire discussion is irrelevant. There is no such thing as de facto leadership at all. Only a bunch of KGB goons and Russian interest peddlers that do not give a flying fuck about human rights or interest of Georgian and Abkhazian people. BTW, my husband has Abkhaz Origins.

[@heyamabaza6235]

Just be resinabl. Why don’t you mention how the Gorgian did when they occupied Abkazia (they forbid the Abkhazian from speaking their language

[@annatascha3979]

"Russian and separatists played football with the head of Georgian?" Oioi.. we all know this. History must be told in the truth. Total truth. But if it invite hatred for people who's life present/future. Then it's better that history doesn't have to be told ever. Use sentences that don't invite hatred.

[@akuladream6431]

Yes this sentence was only for propaganda.

[@annatascha3979]

@@akuladream6431 media's always like this. Propagandas Is they money source.

[@androtchitchinadze3450]

@@akuladream6431 There isn't any propaganda. You just refuse to accept the truth

[@envercelik8733]

Free abkhazia, Abchasien gehört Abchasien, Yasasin abazalar ve cerkezler enver pandaria

[@demeare-_-3360]

Free Kurdistan

[@heyamabaza6235]

👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@cra8553]

ვაჟა ტაბატაძე ჩემი მოგვარეა :(

[@niko-ls5wo]

abkhazia is lnd of Geogia. we show separatist

[@heyamabaza6235]

In your dreams O N L Y

[@qwertz6502]

Georgian propaganda

[@rusudanlavasulava5138]

go fuck yourself. and before you do, look into a history book. ignorant fucker

[@flaer8724]

brainless

[@ambytf]

lmao

[@heyamabaza6235]

Exactly true

[@heyamabaza6235]

True

[@lintangkamila9408]

Tak ada yg didapat dari peperangan kecuali penderitaan,kehancuran & kesedihan.

[@aleexaleex]

Georgia is Abkhazia!

[@CrazyBRT]

wait what? 😐

[@heyamabaza6235]

Then why we call it (( Abkhazia)) hahahah🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@heyamabaza6235]

Big Lies😤👎🏻

[@KissFromTheWorld]

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. It's clear from your comment that you have strong feelings about the content of the documentary. Our goal with this project was to present the complex and often painful history of the Abkhaz-Georgian conflict through the personal stories of those who lived through it. The documentary is based on extensive research, firsthand accounts, and verified historical records to ensure an accurate portrayal of events. However, we understand that perspectives on historical events can vary significantly, and we respect that different people may have different interpretations and experiences. If you have specific points or evidence that you believe contradict the information presented, we would be very interested in hearing them. Constructive criticism helps us improve our work and ensures a more comprehensive understanding of such a complex issue. Please feel free to share your insights or any additional information you believe is important. Our intention is not to perpetuate division, but rather to shed light on the human impact of conflict and to promote understanding and empathy across different viewpoints. We hope that, despite your disagreement with some aspects of the documentary, you can appreciate the effort to document and share the experiences of those affected by the war. Thank you again for your engagement, and we look forward to a more detailed discussion. Cheers, Domenico and Giulia