Abkhazia: Russian or Georgian? I ARTE.tv Documentary

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@მანუელკარდენაშვილი
@მანუელკარდენაშვილი Жыл бұрын
Russian language, Russian money, Russian people, Russian soldiers, Russian pensions. What a vibrantly independent identity! But they love free Georgian healthcare and universities… such a sad situation!
@iurikashengelia5611
@iurikashengelia5611 Жыл бұрын
Ye❤ just bastards
@dylanmurphy9389
@dylanmurphy9389 Жыл бұрын
So Georgia offers free healthcare and then complains when they use it? Clearly just a way to coerce them to join Georgian society
@shukhmurzaeva_elena
@shukhmurzaeva_elena Жыл бұрын
Because it’s georgia and it is a beautiful place that now looks like garbage bc of russia
@nickchkheidze9189
@nickchkheidze9189 11 ай бұрын
They are proud beggers lols
@Applebutaphory11
@Applebutaphory11 10 ай бұрын
Exactly , their so called "inderpendence" is so funny, They have nothing by their own, no military, no currency, no economic, no medicine. Using Russian Ruble and rushing to Georgia to get medical care, living in the stolen houses from Georgians and after that consider themselves as "inderpendent". What a nonsense 😂
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 Жыл бұрын
"we don't depend on anybody" lol... yea what about Russia?
@Yu-hx5jo
@Yu-hx5jo Жыл бұрын
Just like Georgia that begs EU to take them in lol
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 Жыл бұрын
@@Yu-hx5joyou freely enter the EU at least... and you can even leave... meanwhile with russia they just come to annex you and you have to wait untill they periodicaly collapse to exit...
@diaxdiax
@diaxdiax Жыл бұрын
@@Yu-hx5jo EU is our place, russia is a terrorist state and we don't want them
@aperson6799
@aperson6799 Жыл бұрын
@@Yu-hx5jo With Russia constantly on their backs, Armenia and Azerbaijan fighting eachother, and still grappling with the effects of the 90’s and 2008 it would be stupid not to. Also, they were denied from NATO in 2008. It is the least the EU can do after they abandoned them. Relying on Russia however, as they *obviously* do, is a very bad omen. (Abkhazia is basically the same thing that happened in “South Ossetia” , Crimea, and now the rest of Ukraine. And it’s mind blowing how many people are oblivious).
@Yu-hx5jo
@Yu-hx5jo Жыл бұрын
@@aperson6799 You do know that just like Russia intimidates Georgia, the USA and the West at large also do same sht in Asia and Africa and South America. Georgia is not the only "innocent" country (that by the way participated in the illegal invasion of Iraq) that's why I have no feeling for Georgians losing their own territory when they themselves shamelessly support Western /and American Imperialism in other countries.
@kevinzhao5484
@kevinzhao5484 10 ай бұрын
Apsua is Apsua itself. Russia is a strategic ally to keep Abkhaz state in existence, but Russian Empire had committed unforgivable genocide against Abkhaz & Circassian people.
@papunajilavdari3072
@papunajilavdari3072 Жыл бұрын
1989 census Georgian population in Abkhazia: 239,872 Abkhaz population in Abkhazia: 93,267 War in 1992-1993 2011 census Georgian population: 46,347 Abkhaz population: 122,069 Any questions?
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
Грузины заселились в Абхазию только после депортации 80% Абхазов в Турцию, на их земли и в их дома. До этого Грузин здесь небыло.
@papunajilavdari3072
@papunajilavdari3072 Жыл бұрын
N1. There were georgians although they were not majority. Who were megrels then? N2. Georgians didn't kick abkhaz from there homes, it was russia which happens to be beloved partner of abkhazia today 🙃. There is plenty of evidence that georgian population in samurzakano, as well as georgian aristocracy was asking abkhaz to stay and not go to turkey because it was better to stay at home, even under russian occupation than under ottomans. N3. How the hell does what happened 150 years ago justify ethnic cleansing today? What a sick person should one be to believe that you can kick whole ethnicity out from their homes, because 150 years ago, when 80 of modern states didn't even exist, they were not majority. So native australians or native new Zealand's should ethnically cleans modern population of european descent?
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
​@@papunajilavdari3072 Во время войны России с Кавказом, Грузия являлось опорой России. Десятки Грузинских отрядов участвовали в войне против Горцев. Вот почему после войны было разрешено заселение Абхазии Грузинами. Грузинами во главе с Берия была также проведена репрессия против Абхазов в 34-52 годах 20 века. (Закрытие Абхазских школ, расстрелял этнических Абхазов, смена название городов, с Абхазского на Грузинский лад, и др.) В войне 92-93 годов также которая была начата напрямую Грузинами, был не что иное как геноцид Абхазов. 80% всех погибших солдат являются Абхазами. Сравни общее число Абхазов и Грузин. У кого больше потери??? И ты после всего этого хочешь сказать о потерях Грузин в войне 93 годов??В войне которую сами Грузины начали??? В войне которая является виновником только Грузия. Грузия является виновником геноцида Абхазов и Осетин. За всё это и должны отвечать Грузины.
@papunajilavdari3072
@papunajilavdari3072 Жыл бұрын
1. Georgian two kingdoms (Imereti and Kartl-Kakheti) were forcefully occupied by russian empire prior to their campaign against northern cuacasus. The reason why some (and very minor number) of georgians fought alongside russians against abkhaz uprising was that abkhaz allied with ottoman turkey, country that brutalized and enslaved western georgia for 3 hundred years. Even than, fighting against uprising doesn't meen kicking people from homes. Georgians had nothing to do with Russia forcing muslim population of abkhazia out of their land, we have ottoman documents in which part of muhajirs had georgian surnames and were designated as Lazi (because megrels and Laz have almost the same language. Most of the Georgians who settled in central abkhazia, were already living in samurzakano, which was itself part of abkhazia, plus, if you have any idea what feudal system means it should be clear thar nobody asked them weather they wanted or not to settle there, so what kind of gift are we even talking about. Russia needed christian population in abkhazia to protect their imperial interests. 2. One has to have nerve to say that psycho murderers like Beria and Stalin had anything to do with Georgia except for their birthplaces. Georgia was the last nation in the caucasus standing against bolsheviks while you're beloved Lakoba was leading russians in his motherland. Stalinist regime killed and sent to Siberia more Georgians than any other people in the south caucasus. It is a total madness to identify Georgian nation to Stalinist regime. Would you say that it was Georgia who won the World war 2? 3. Tengiz Kitovani who decided personally, against directives of Georgian officials, to march to abkhazia first started civil war in tbilisi and did exactly the same there what he was doing in Abkhazia. Both him and Mkhedrioni bandits were as hated by most of the Georgians as they were by abkhaz. Georgian population of Abkhazia had literally nothing to do with the starting of the war and they were totally unjustly punished by the abkhaz sadists, who now are recognized as national heroes in abkhazia. 4. Even if nothing i have written was true, it still doesn't justify the worst war crime which is ethnic cleansing, no matter how much you try. if Ukraine starts just massacring and forcing russian population from their homes, this will be a crime against humanity, no matter who started the actual conflict.
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
​​​@@papunajilavdari3072 Во первых не каких этнических чисток небыло, была война. В которой на прямую виновата Грузия. Ты тут назвала Берия Сталин Китовани мхидриони они все были Грузинами а не Узбеками, и они действовали не одни, потому что всё окружения у Берия Китовани были Грузины. Если в 40 годах города Абхазии переименовали на Грузинский лад, вы хотите сказать что это не было политика Грузин??? Почему переводили школы на Грузинский язык а не на Русский???? Это всё и есть геноцид Абхазов и Осетин. Ваша поколение за это сейчас расплачиваеться. Грузия как страна на Абхазию не имеет не каких прав юридических и уж тем более моральных. Грузия сейчас всего лишь инструмент Запада против России и всё. Взамен Грузия пытается скрыть свой преступление от мира и выставить себя жертвой. Недоразвитое общество.
@mishkalobjanidze-f8o
@mishkalobjanidze-f8o Жыл бұрын
how dare you to question that? 60 k georgians died defending and 400k were left without homes. that was a genocide of Georgian people
@sonofalbi9801
@sonofalbi9801 9 ай бұрын
Colonizers fleeing on their own volition is not a genocide. Ethnic cleansing may be applied, but the only genocide that happened in Abkhazia happened towards Abkhaz people in the 19th century.
@LordDirus007
@LordDirus007 6 ай бұрын
How about this, how about you simply join together and create an alliance. You are stronger together than apart. Kinda of dumb, cultures so similar fighting. Why?
@skeptravel
@skeptravel 6 ай бұрын
@@sonofalbi9801 And who exactly orchestrated the genocide of Abkhazians and Circassians in 19th century? Hint: some people from the north.
@sonofalbi9801
@sonofalbi9801 6 ай бұрын
@@skeptravel Who was allied with the people who organized the genocide, and who colonized the lands after the genocide?
@skeptravel
@skeptravel 6 ай бұрын
@@sonofalbi9801 Armenians. They were strong allies of Russia and participated in settling historical Caucasian lands when Muslims were sent to Ottoman Empire, including other parts of Georgia, like Samtskhe-Javakheti or Tao-Klarjeti. Armenians being Russian allies were one of the main reasons why Turks organized genocide against them at the end of the WW1. Btw small part of Abkhazian refugees was sheltered by Muslim Georgians in Adjara after their ship wrecked or something and couldn't continue the voyage. Their descendants still live there. Georgians revolted several times themselves against Russian rule between 1800 and 1860's don't blame Georgians with allying Russians, it's just hilarious, Georgians wouldn't even be 5% of the Army who fought against Caucasians. Likewise, some North Caucasians participated in putting down uprisings in other parts of Georgia but it doesn't mean, let's say Ingush people allied with Russians against Georgians. As for colonizing, the land was empty and better settle historical Georgian lands with Georgians from neighboring provinces than completely turn it into a Russian land like Ubykh or other Circassian lands. Greeks, Russians, Armenians and others migrated to Abkhazia and settled there, the territory was still controlled by the Russian empire and they had no privileges for Georgians whatsoever. It was just the case of the climate, Russians couldn't survive subtropical climate of Abkhazia while Georgians already living there and nearby could. As we mentioned Ubykhs, it's important to point out that Sochi was also historically part of Abkhazia but you don't seem to claim it today, I wonder why? On the other hand, Georgians fought fiercely with Abkhazians in 1918-21 against Russians to retain westernmost part of what is now Gagra and Pitsunda areas.
@karfomachet7265
@karfomachet7265 Жыл бұрын
today Abkhazia is ethnically mixed with the native Abkhaz & Armenians forming the majority with smaller Russian and Georgian groups . there used to be German & Estonian communities and a large Greek one to all so a few Jews . But that is mostly all gone now.
@arshamex7725
@arshamex7725 Жыл бұрын
the 25 years old girl speaks russian better than her own monther tongue then says that we are not russian, makes me laugh, not only she's definitely a lot more russian than abkhazian, she and their society in general have a russo-soviet mentality. they are literally many would call russia.
@malgorzataojoj4256
@malgorzataojoj4256 Жыл бұрын
@@arshamex7725 I'm not sure how do know you she better speaks Russian than Abkhazian. Also, the language you speak doesn't necessarily defines your nationality, especially if you leave in the shadow of a dominating empire and used to be a part of the Soviet Union. I bet lots of Kazakhs or other former Soviet republics speak perfect Russian, that doesn't make them Russians. Let her decide if she feels Russian or Abkhazian. You know, there are more and more people in the world that are bilingual. They speak two, some maybe more, languages on the level of its being their mother tongue. And again, there are Americans who speak only Spanish. So I'm not buying your way of thinking.
@DaTrainMan
@DaTrainMan 11 ай бұрын
as a georgian it makes me sad knowing a chunk of georgia got taken away by russia and disguised as an independent country same as south osseatia, simply looking at the map you can obviously tell both of them fit in like puzzle pieces. in different regions of georgia some have each of their own tongue but that dosent make them independent so i wish it comes back to us someday..
@giorgigio7651
@giorgigio7651 11 ай бұрын
Apkazia was and will be Georgian part.they Apsni and Russian occupied separatist troops.
@Zura_Lanch
@Zura_Lanch 9 ай бұрын
@@malgorzataojoj4256 that girl can speak any language she likes and can decide to be russian, Australian or even Vanuatuan )) but Abkhazia has always been and will be GEORGIA!
@nikala8506
@nikala8506 Жыл бұрын
GEORGIA
@gabrielchelidze118
@gabrielchelidze118 Жыл бұрын
abkhazia is georgia region
@Uramo_roz
@Uramo_roz Жыл бұрын
Вам в 2008 году объяснили чё почём, Саакашвили галстук съел в подтверждение.
@teo_iber
@teo_iber Жыл бұрын
​ @user-qu7yo4px3u რუსებს, ეხლა აგიხსნიან უკრაინელები და იქ მებრძოლი ქართველები, სადაა რუსების ადგილი. იქნებ თქვენი ტერიტორიაც ვერ დაიცვათ დაშლისგან
@gabrielchelidze118
@gabrielchelidze118 Жыл бұрын
@@Uramo_roz сколько свиней
@user-sj6og7wi2q
@user-sj6og7wi2q Жыл бұрын
@@Uramo_roz English?
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is it Abkhazia. Georgia is State of USA
@lcy5169
@lcy5169 2 ай бұрын
The world: Abkhazia belongs to Russia or Georgia? Abkhazia: NO
@Maradan-o9b
@Maradan-o9b Ай бұрын
АБХАЗИЯ ЕТО ГРУЗИЯ 🇬🇪
@iliajgenti2982
@iliajgenti2982 Жыл бұрын
that is beautifull land of georgia !
@The.andrwbrn
@The.andrwbrn Жыл бұрын
@@Black_berry894 georgia is older than soviet union💀
@_Sakartvelo_
@_Sakartvelo_ Жыл бұрын
@@Black_berry894 იოცნებეთ ღრუსებმა. იმდენად ცარიელი ქვეყანა გაქვთ რომ არც კულტურა გაგაჩნიათ არც გასტრონომია და მედვედევი უკვე ქართულ სამზარეულოსაც ითვისებს ტერიტორიებთან ერთად. როგირ ხართ ასეთი განუვითარებლები?!🤌
@againstviralmisinformation510
@againstviralmisinformation510 Жыл бұрын
Georgia is part of the Soviet Union
@BofansonDiZnats
@BofansonDiZnats Жыл бұрын
@@The.andrwbrnjust an ottoman pet, later Russian pet
@The.andrwbrn
@The.andrwbrn Жыл бұрын
@@BofansonDiZnats And we’re still standing after all those invasions, stay mad
@georgerukhadze9164
@georgerukhadze9164 Жыл бұрын
Life lesson: If Russian tells you something just reverse it to find out truth. Russians say Georgians made genocide for Abkhazians? there's countless pictures of shot Georgian non combatants in Abkhazia. But you will not find any mass shootings of Abkhazians. those who didn't leave were also shot. note that forcible removal of people from region by their ethnicity (300k Georgians left Abkhazia) is also genocide. Russians call Georgians fascists? Georgian Person (even if they have Russian passport) cannot enter Abkhazia (If their family name ends with "shvili", "dze", "iani"). Who discriminates people by their ethnicity? Fascists. Now that the whole world found out who Russia truly is, its only matter of time before Georgians will be able to return to their homes.
@vinesgg3578
@vinesgg3578 Жыл бұрын
And you forgot abouth the part where Georgian ethnonationalists basicly provoked the war by declaring that they are making georgian ethnostate and if you don like it - leave. They started an ethnic war and lost it. Abkhazian ethnonationslists just used a situation in their favor. Dosent justify ethnic cleansings though. Simple as it is.
@georgerukhadze9164
@georgerukhadze9164 Жыл бұрын
@@vinesgg3578 there is as much proof for that as for you not being a dumbass who falls for Russian propaganda.
@georgerukhadze9164
@georgerukhadze9164 Жыл бұрын
@@vinesgg3578 also there are more than abkhazians and georgians in Georgia including armenians and azeris. if that was true why was there no war between them too?
@vinesgg3578
@vinesgg3578 Жыл бұрын
​@@georgerukhadze9164 georgia quickly fell into chaos with its own civil war and conflict with osetians. Russians actualy evacuated president of georgia from Suhumi to prevent total anarchy. If not for russian intervention abkhaz would invade the core territories of georgia. Azeri and Armenian are expats in georgia they have their own ethnostates really near it, and abkhaz in their mind fought a war for their lands, forming their nation.
@georgerukhadze9164
@georgerukhadze9164 Жыл бұрын
@@vinesgg3578 "And you forgot abouth the part where Georgian ethnonationalists basicly provoked the war by declaring that they are making georgian ethnostate and if you don like it - leave" I need source for this
@lestatdelioncourt5550
@lestatdelioncourt5550 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia has always been a part of Georgia. Just look at any historical map. These people are delusional and believe the Russian propaganda. That's why only several countries like 'Nauru' recognize it as an independent nation. (These nations just get paid for recognizing 'countries' like Abkhazia)
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine was always part of Russia time for annexation
@ste9856
@ste9856 9 ай бұрын
Abkhazia is russia
@TamariKorakhashvili
@TamariKorakhashvili 7 ай бұрын
​@@ste9856No, Abkazia is and will always be Georgia! Look at Georgian maps, there is was and will be always Abkhazia! Abkazia is Georgia forever 🇬🇪❤🇬🇪❤
@TamariKorakhashvili
@TamariKorakhashvili 7 ай бұрын
@@ste9856 Russia just stole Abkhazia and Ossetia. Everyone know it, even Russians and people who were born in Abkhazia and Ossetia.
@eriknervik9003
@eriknervik9003 5 ай бұрын
Well obviously not “always” since Georgia has not controlled this territory for well over a century at least
@Hola-rx1jy
@Hola-rx1jy 11 ай бұрын
It’s basically a Georgian region controlled by Russia
@LordDirus007
@LordDirus007 6 ай бұрын
No it's own tribal region. However they share more in common with Georgia than they do with Russia
@LordDirus007
@LordDirus007 6 ай бұрын
Russia just learned how they could weaken Georgia through Dividing
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 Жыл бұрын
funny how Russia is the only european country that managed to keep its colonial empire, just by naming it USSR and then Russian "federation" instead of russian colonial empire... but it's always like this with Russia they are 100 years late compared to western europe... si yea time has come for them to learn the lessons of WWII and the decolonisation...100 years late.
@Yu-hx5jo
@Yu-hx5jo Жыл бұрын
And yet Russia is more of a peaceful force in the world than the Georgia that participated in the illegal invasion of Iraq alongside the USA. Honestly Georgia and Ukraine DESERVED for what they did.
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 Жыл бұрын
@@Yu-hx5jo lol you are a joke
@nino71
@nino71 Жыл бұрын
Maybe (!) you re right about Russia but how about France? How about the United Kingdom? The USA also rule an Empire....
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700
@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 Жыл бұрын
@@nino71 france and the uk lost their colonial empire after the second world war, just like any european country exepted for russia, who just renamed it ussr...russia is always 100 years in late.. they will learn in the coming few years what the other did learn at wwII. For the US i don't see them planting their flag on territories of other and calling it usa... they are a military and economic superpower and their behavior as some imperialistic traits, but they are not a colonial entity...
@nino71
@nino71 Жыл бұрын
@@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 whatever
@mariamivanidze9116
@mariamivanidze9116 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia and Samachablo are Georgian territories occupied by Russia!
@Black_berry894
@Black_berry894 Жыл бұрын
Georgia also called Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia) illegally break away from the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR).
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 Жыл бұрын
Russia should leave Abkhazia and allow them to be independent
@Black_berry894
@Black_berry894 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanII499 Abkhzians don't wants putin's army to leave. Because most of the Abkhzians beleve safe because of putin & his army.
@Black_berry894
@Black_berry894 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanII499 Abkhzian is already independent.
@_Sakartvelo_
@_Sakartvelo_ Жыл бұрын
@@Black_berry894 Safe 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Who is threatened with annexation today from RuZzia?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@janedoe3763
@janedoe3763 Жыл бұрын
It was russia who started this war and start genocide of georgian people and then russia "ended" the war, it's a same what's happening now in ukraine And what do you mean by "georgian can take advantage", it' same if you say the ukraine can take advantage and return crimea or dinbass region, abkhazia and samachablo (aka "south osetia") is georgia, and this people aren't abkhazians they called themselves that, they're aphsuas, stalin settled them there and after THEY took advantage and start separatists movement behind georgians back with help and provocation from russia so please check your facts before you make videos on sensetive topics like this
@GABROGAMES999
@GABROGAMES999 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is Georgia, more than 50 percent of population had to leave and only Russian loyal separatists and Russian troops were left
@AnalniyBandit
@AnalniyBandit Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is Abkhazia.
@zaza-bukulovi1968
@zaza-bukulovi1968 Жыл бұрын
@@AnalniyBandit Abkhazia was a part of Georgia almost 26 century what about you talking do you history?
@AnalniyBandit
@AnalniyBandit Жыл бұрын
@@zaza-bukulovi1968 so what, ukraine and belarus were part of Russia, but it don't change the fact that they can be independent, abkhazians choose to be independent.
@zaza-bukulovi1968
@zaza-bukulovi1968 Жыл бұрын
@@AnalniyBandit abkhazians came from Iran and we will give them land becouse they want independent? For what then give independent Ossetian who came in Georgia also give land for Armenians who living in Georgia give a land for azerbaijan people Turkish people Russians and more. Where is a logic? I know where is a logic more than your argument give independent Chechnya russians did it genocide against Chechen people without doubt more than 500.000 children and civilian dead look let's talk about ingushetia they killed this race also let's talk other north Caucasus countries why Russian did not give independent? Be loyal number one is loyality remember.
@GABROGAMES999
@GABROGAMES999 Жыл бұрын
@@AnalniyBandit Abkhazians can't choose anything, majority of Abkhazian population was forced to leave Abkhazia
@friendsplay4146
@friendsplay4146 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is Georgia
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 Жыл бұрын
Georgia is Abkhazia
@NiktheSl1ck
@NiktheSl1ck 2 ай бұрын
​@@RomanII499tf?
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 2 ай бұрын
@@NiktheSl1ck Im being serious
@NiktheSl1ck
@NiktheSl1ck 2 ай бұрын
@@RomanII499 I'm sure not even abkhazians want georgia 🤣 plus poulation of abkhazia is like 300K-500K like MAX! and population of georgia is 3 million, so that physically wouldn't be possible
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 2 ай бұрын
@@NiktheSl1ck Russia will help
@Ukit50
@Ukit50 Жыл бұрын
The UN General Assembly at the 77th session for the 16th time adopted a resolution recognizing the right of all Georgian refugees and internally displaced persons (IDPs) to return to Abkhazia and Samachablo. The official title of the resolution is “The situation of internally displaced persons and refugees from Abkhazia, Georgia, and the Tskhinvali region/South Ossetia, Georgia”. The document was co-sponsored this year by 63 countries (last year - 61). This year, the document was supported by 100 countries - this is the largest support for Georgia since 2008, when the resolution was first submitted to the General Assembly. Azerbaijan and Türkiye also supported the resolution. Armenia did not take part in the voting this year either. For the 16th time, there is no support for Armenia in the UN for Georgian refugees! For many years, Yerevan has been “against” the return of Georgian refugees for many years. And, in fact, even today it maintains this position, continuing to support separatism, but does not vote in sync with the Russian Federation solely as part of the “change of ally” from Russia to the countries of the West. A total of 59 states abstained from voting for the resolution. Laos and Vietnam, who voted last year against the return of Georgian refugees, did not take part in the voting this year. Recall that in 2022, 95 countries supported the resolution, 12 were against, 56 abstained. Armenia did not vote. In previous years, the dynamics of voting was as follows: • In 2020, 84 countries supported the resolution, 13 were against, 78 abstained, Armenia did not vote; • In 2019, 79 countries supported the resolution, 15 opposed, and 57 abstained. Armenia - did not vote; • In 2018, 81 countries supported the resolution, 16 opposed, and 62 abstained. Armenia voted against the return of Georgian refugees, despite the fact that the current Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan had come to power in Yerevan by that time; • In 2017, 80 countries supported the resolution, 14 opposed, 61 abstained Armenia voted against; • In 2016, 76 countries voted in favor of the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees, 15 voted against, 64 abstained, Armenia voted against; • In 2015, 75 countries were in favor of the resolution, 16 were against, 78 abstained. Armenia voted against; • In 2014, 69 countries voted in favor of the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees, 13 countries voted against and 79 countries abstained. Armenia voted against; • In 2013, 62 countries voted in favor of the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees. 16 countries were against, 84 states abstained. Armenia voted against. • In 2012, 60 countries voted for the return of Georgian refugees. There were 15 states against and 82 abstentions. Armenia voted against. • In 2011, 57 countries supported the resolution, 13 countries opposed and 74 abstained. Armenia voted against. • In 2010, the resolution was supported by 50 countries, opposed by 17 countries; 86 States abstained. Armenia voted against. • In 2009, 48 countries voted in favor of the resolution, 19 voted against; abstained - 78; Armenia voted against. • In 2008, only 14 countries supported the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees (that year only to Abkhazia, since the vote was taken before the August 2008 conflict), 11 states voted against and 105 abstained. Armenia voted against.
@Lukejb2Butterworth
@Lukejb2Butterworth Жыл бұрын
the UN really has no legitimacy in these matters they are simply rubber stamping decisions made by those communist dictators when they invented the USSR and all its borders . just look at how the UN sold out the Indigenous Armenians in NK to the Azeris = total ethnically cleansed and what did the UN do ??? nothing good .
@Chegevara.1999
@Chegevara.1999 10 ай бұрын
i am georgian, and have armenian very good brothers but its fact they are slanders. not all is bad !
@NickAndriadze
@NickAndriadze 4 ай бұрын
As a Georgian myself, I absolutely get the Armenians. Russia is their only strong ally and if it didn't exist, Azerbaijan would have already completely destroyed it most likely. So they don't want to disturb the one nest that has proven very helpful to them. They're a small country and their vote wouldn't change much in the grand scheme anyways.
@robertrussell263
@robertrussell263 Жыл бұрын
Georgian. Slava Ukraina.
@Mr1234543211
@Mr1234543211 Жыл бұрын
FY
@Uramo_roz
@Uramo_roz Жыл бұрын
Жопа в сале
@2.7petabytes
@2.7petabytes Жыл бұрын
@@Mr1234543211 FY
@giorgikenkadze4309
@giorgikenkadze4309 Жыл бұрын
Georgia🇬🇪
@jupitermars9692
@jupitermars9692 Жыл бұрын
Abxazia is territory part of georgia. Sokumi is heart of georgia. ❤❤❤
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc Жыл бұрын
Do you want to get your ass beat again? 😁
@Black_berry894
@Black_berry894 Жыл бұрын
Then in that case Georgia is Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia) a Republic of the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR) HUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAA ❤❤❤❤ 💪💪💪💪💪.
@dabugg1290
@dabugg1290 Жыл бұрын
No ,abkhazia is an country ,is independent
@dabugg1290
@dabugg1290 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't understand
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 Жыл бұрын
Its independent
@MrDididevi
@MrDididevi Жыл бұрын
300 000 Georgians will be back to Abkhazia soon. Abkhazeti is a part of Georgia!
@againstviralmisinformation510
@againstviralmisinformation510 Жыл бұрын
Where is the evidence that 300k Georgians lived in Abkhazia right up to the civil war?
@K.K648
@K.K648 Жыл бұрын
​@@againstviralmisinformation510This happened 30 years ago, not 30 years of talent, many of them are only 40 years old
@againstviralmisinformation510
@againstviralmisinformation510 Жыл бұрын
@@K.K648 yea but it was not 300,000. The Georgian population was less than that
@reinavida5728
@reinavida5728 6 ай бұрын
@@K.K648 That's what Russians do - they evict hundreds of thousands of people from their homes, kill them, organize conflicts, and then wonder - why does everyone hate us?
@reinavida5728
@reinavida5728 6 ай бұрын
@@againstviralmisinformation510 Don't worry, Russians evicted 240,000 Crimean Tatars in 1944, but they multiplied in several decades and still managed to return to their homeland.
@jambuliphartenadze6885
@jambuliphartenadze6885 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia, this is Georgia, which was taken from us by Russia, and it will answer for it soon.
@nuclear_addict
@nuclear_addict Жыл бұрын
Georgia lost to Russia in 5 days hahahahahahahaha
@captainvato
@captainvato Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia it's Georgia 🇬🇪
@rockyj5047
@rockyj5047 9 күн бұрын
Russia: We'll protect you in exchange for your sovereignty. Wow Russia is so thoughtful and nice.
@bruh87877
@bruh87877 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly disingenuous video, completely emitting that those 200 K refugees were Georgian. And that 50K Georgians who live in Abkhazia live in terror, and under de facto Abkhazian law, they are not considered to be under the protection of civil and human law. They completely ignore that Abkhazian side violated a ceasefire on 3 separate occasions, most notably at Sokhumi, when Abkhazians attacked civilians. Or how about when only 15% of Abkhazian army was made up of Abkhaz. The rest were Russia or North Caucasian mercenaries. This video tries to portray Abkhazia as a victim who is caught between Georgia and Russia, but the reality is that Abkhazia ethnically cleansed 200 000 Georgian people from their historic homeland, massacred tens of thousands of innocents with the help of Russia, became a Russia vassal and continues its attempt to ethnically erase the remaining 50 000 Georgians. This video is awful, and I feel ashamed for whoever wrote this. because it has a very clear anti-Georgian bias and purpose scews facts to protect their agenda.
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
Не ври. 90% погибших были Абхазы, и Армия состояла на 80-90% из Абхазов. Смотри статистику.
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
И Грузины заселились в Абхазию только после депортации Абхазов в 19 веке в Турцию. В их дома и земли заселились Грузины. До этого Грузины не жили в Абхазии.
@bruh87877
@bruh87877 Жыл бұрын
@@AdamIPA Which statistic? Every single study done on the subject by independent non-biased obserbervers said that only 15% were actually Abkhaz. The rest were foreigners.
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
​@@bruh87877 Я приглашаю тебя в Абхазию, я тебя встречу и ты сам всё увидишь. В каждом Абхазском селе стоит памятник с именами погибших. И не нужно будет тебе больше не какую экспертизу, ты сам своими глазами увидишь.
@caralhoguy
@caralhoguy Жыл бұрын
@@AdamIPA ❤
@antheus76nla
@antheus76nla Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia belong to Georgia like Crimea belongs to Ukraine, Russia is a landgrabber that just wants to show its power that they can take everything they want.
@servicer6969
@servicer6969 10 ай бұрын
It's not the same. Crimea is not a de facto state, Abkhazia is. You clearly don't know what youre talking about. Average georgian education fr.
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax 9 ай бұрын
Crimea belongs to Ottoman Turkiye
@dimka9777
@dimka9777 4 ай бұрын
@@servicer6969 where are you from :D
@adavada5394
@adavada5394 2 ай бұрын
@@climate_anti-hoax tatárok éltek ott, tehát Mongolia..
@gogitakukava3800
@gogitakukava3800 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Abkhazia part of Georgia 🇬🇪
@Black_berry894
@Black_berry894 Жыл бұрын
Yes Georgia is Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia) a Republic of the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR) HUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAA ❤❤💪💪💪.
@eriknervik9003
@eriknervik9003 Жыл бұрын
No, it’s not. I know you have to hang on to this nonsense because your country got its ass kicked many times on this issue, but you’ll be happier when you accept reality
@gogitakukava3800
@gogitakukava3800 Жыл бұрын
@@Black_berry894 No comment, Abkhazia is Georgia 🇬🇪🇬🇪!!!!!!!!!!
@Black_berry894
@Black_berry894 Жыл бұрын
@@gogitakukava3800 Well in that case George is republic of the Soviet Union ( USSR) as Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia). HUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAA long live the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR).
@Black_berry894
@Black_berry894 Жыл бұрын
@@eriknervik9003Just like you & your nonsense I'm not happy to accept you reality.
@jelena7604
@jelena7604 Жыл бұрын
Many in Abkhazia want to have their cake and eat it too.
@dutch1047
@dutch1047 Жыл бұрын
Very unusual report about situation, and what about Georgians 10:36 who had to leave the region? 🙄🙄🙄
@Mr1234543211
@Mr1234543211 Жыл бұрын
240000 left Russians left the Georgian region too
@gigisonishvili7146
@gigisonishvili7146 Жыл бұрын
Russians don't care about Georgians, Abkhazians don't care about Georgian refugees too, for them we are colonizers and we deserved to be kicked out from really the land of our ancestors, now they decide without us where Abkhazia will be, of course with the help of Russia, that's why Russia is an occupier, it has troops on our internationally recognized territories and doesn't allow us to return.
@Mr1234543211
@Mr1234543211 Жыл бұрын
@@gigisonishvili7146 You just told us, if Georgians are not care, they have to be kicked out, Is it right? Your nationalism is your problem, why you started that war.
@GABROGAMES999
@GABROGAMES999 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr1234543211 Nobody forced Russians to leave Georgia, Today thousands of Russians run from Russia in Georgia and live there, while Georgians can't enter Abkhazia or Russia
@Mr1234543211
@Mr1234543211 Жыл бұрын
@@GABROGAMES999 You did not forced, but told You gonna kill them, and forced that region to the body brotherhood war, and now you are telling us you did nothing. Russian tourists, who came to Georgia are political tourists
@Ukit50
@Ukit50 Жыл бұрын
Refugees from Abkhazia: Armenia stabbed Georgia in the back In Tbilisi, IDPs from Abkhazia held a protest action in front of the Armenian embassy. The protesters expressed their protest against the obstacles caused by Armenia to the citizens of Georgia, who wish to return to their native lands, which are currently under occupation. Indeed, Armenia is making an invaluable contribution to the continuation of the occupation by voting against the territorial integrity of Georgia in international organizations again and again. Thus, in early June, Armenia for the tenth time said no to the return of Georgian refugees to the occupied territories of Abkhazia and the Tskhinvali region. The point is not only that this country itself is an aggressor and currently holds twenty percent of the territories of neighboring Azerbaijan under occupation. Voting "for", Yerevan would automatically vote against its own crimes. In addition, Yerevan will not dare to vote against Russia. Yourself is more expensive. But that's not all. There are also more weighty and promising goals that force Yerevan to substitute its neighbors. The fact is that the Armenians shamelessly and openly lay claim to Abkhazia. Separatism in this region of Georgia is beneficial to the Armenians, who are gradually increasing their presence in this territory and occupying the houses of the expelled Georgians. Moreover, local Armenians are pursuing a policy against the return of the region to Georgia, as well as loudly declaring their "historical rights" to these lands. And they do not just declare, but take certain actions for this in their own style, inherent in Armenian nationalism. As the "Kavkaz Plus" newspaper notes, in Abkhazia, the greatest cruelties against the civilian Georgian population were distinguished by Armenian militants - especially from the battalion named after. Bagramyan. More than 300,000 Georgian refugees left Abkhazia just to save themselves from the atrocities of the Armenian "Christian brothers". Many, unfortunately, did not manage to escape - they were killed or tortured by representatives of the "ancient" and "long-suffering people." It should be noted that Armenia is a country that is always ready to stick a knife in the back of any of its neighbors or allies. Armenians do not know what friendship, good neighborliness and partnership are, seeing in each of these concepts only a way to snatch something and intrigue against someone. In words, being a friend of Georgia, Armenia in deeds constantly trips up its neighbor. And although nothing depends on her vote in the UN, in Georgia they clearly see who is a true friend and who is a turncoat. It is clear that having the above two "weighty" reasons not to vote for the Georgian resolutions, Armenia will not go for it. Otherwise, she will have to admit the fact of her own occupation of the Azerbaijani territories. But you could have abstained, right? So Yerevan found itself in a trap, which he lovingly and carefully built for himself. Armenians staged a separatist farce in Abkhazia Although it is believed that a separatist will always understand a separatist, but when Armenian nationalists are involved, the rules change. Curious news was spread by KavkazPlus the other day. In unrecognized Abkhazia, a scandal erupted over a video that appeared on the Internet, in which an Armenian teenager happily tramples the flag of this separatist entity. In this case, we are not talking about protecting the attribute of the so-called "statehood" of the separatist entity. In no case. This is a meaningless rag, no more legitimate than a rag in the form of the Armenian flag bitten off from the end, called the "NKR flag". It is interesting not that the Armenian defiled the Abkhaz attribute, but what followed. It's just a theater, not even a theater - a farce. According to the Georgian edition, a scandal erupted. The Armenian community of Abkhazia tried to present the case in such a way that it was about one "renegade", and all of them, they say, are very fond of the Abkhazians and "tremblingly" refer to the symbol of this separatist sub-state, under which they fought together with the Abkhazians against Georgia. Meetings were held in all Armenian schools. That Armenian was found (it was 15-year-old Hrachya Sarukhanyan) and forced on his knees to ask for forgiveness for his act. His father, Ashot Sarukhanyan, also asked for forgiveness for his son: “I spoke with him, with my son ... And before that, of course, we talked ... I say: “Now I have to go out before the people and say a word for you. What did you - if you were there - say to them? He says, "Father, I would kneel." I can't justify it. Many people sitting here know me, they know my family. My own brother shed blood just like you. I apologize on behalf of my entire family, on behalf of my son. If you can, forgive him," Ashot Sarukhanyan said. In general, the Armenians were seriously alarmed and were clearly afraid that this incident would make the Abkhazians think about what the Armenian community of Abkhazia is like, having seized the entire economy in the separatist territory into their own hands, and what can be expected from the Armenians in principle. Therefore, they acted out theatricality with "indignant renegades" and "apologies." At the same time, the separatist media tried to "silence" the scandal - which is not surprising - almost all of them depend on Armenian funding. Well, for the time being, it is apparently not profitable for the Armenians to openly quarrel with the Abkhazians, writes KavkazPlus. Analyzing the situation, the publication notes that the Armenian apologized even so theatrically, most likely, not only out of fear, but also under pressure from his community and the Armenian lobby, which today does not benefit from setting the Abkhaz ethnos against itself ahead of time. So far, Abkhazia is not completely under the control of the Armenians in all areas. But the fact that a teenager has such an attitude towards the Abkhazian separatist symbols speaks of how adult Armenians really relate to the Abkhazians. It's just that adults hold back their emotions and do not show their deep contempt for the Abkhaz separatist symbols and disdain for the Abkhaz themselves. And the teenager took and showed what his relatives and friends were talking about ... The experience of history shows that it is very close from desecration of symbols to ethnic cleansing and genocide. Recall that the Armenian terrorists are very fond of trampling on the Azerbaijani flag. They love and loved to pose against the backdrop of the desecrated symbols of the Azerbaijani state. This has already resulted in the loss of territories for the Azerbaijani people, the killing of thousands of Azerbaijanis and the expulsion of over 1 million people from the occupied Karabakh and over 200 thousand from the Republic of Armenia. It is naive to think that at a critical moment the Armenian terrorists will behave more generously towards the Abkhazians. Moreover, they almost openly claim their lands, emphasizes KavkazPlus. The ingratitude of our neighbors is well known. And Armenian nationalists usually respond to a good attitude with terror and meanness. It just so happened. Recall that at the end of last year, the Armenians began to talk openly about the annexation of Abkhazia to Armenia. So far, however, at an unofficial level, in social networks. However, statements like "Abkhazia is an Armenian land", "we won this war" speak for themselves. This is a serious signal, because the Armenians today are the second largest ethnic group in the separatist entity, and in the once allied resorts of Sukhumi and Gagra, of course, they make up the vast majority. Still would. It is quite expected that the appetites of the Armenians increased sharply after this territory was temporarily not controlled by Tbilisi. So a separatist will not always understand a separatist. And it is no coincidence that the members of the so-called "parliament" of Abkhazia responded very specifically to the calls of their Armenian colleagues to assist in the opening of the railway: first you recognize the "independence" of Abkhazia, and then we'll talk ... Needless to say, this is exactly the condition that Yerevan will not be able to fulfill in any way.
@Cancalılardan
@Cancalılardan Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone saw the true faces of Armenians. Do we have to get hurt to be fair? Westerners are very hypocritical. When I tell them the truth, they keep lying. Armenians do not have a state. They occupied Turkish lands together with the Russians. Likewise, they expanded this occupation. Eventually this came to an end. Now it is time to enter Irevan and let the Turks return. Armenians united with the Russians, expelled the people from the regions they occupied and settled in their places. Just like in Armenia. Circassia, Abkhazia, Meskhetian and Karabakh are the invaders. And I hope that one day the native Turks will return to the Meskhetian(Ahıska-Ahılkelek) region.
@giorgilatsabidze7505
@giorgilatsabidze7505 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia and samachablo are GEORGIA 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪 .
@againstviralmisinformation510
@againstviralmisinformation510 Жыл бұрын
Georgia is still USSR
@alienapks
@alienapks 8 ай бұрын
🤍❤️🤍❤️🤍🦾
@reinavida5728
@reinavida5728 6 ай бұрын
@@againstviralmisinformation510 USSR fell apart because your moron Gorbachev tried to break the republics apart and caused ethnic conflicts. Now you know what might happen after trying to downsize Ukraine.
@ika8711
@ika8711 Жыл бұрын
Abxazia is Georgia 🇬🇪
@ruslanmaminaishvili2680
@ruslanmaminaishvili2680 11 ай бұрын
afkhazia, georgia !!! 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
@Mrbarentsberg
@Mrbarentsberg 10 ай бұрын
Your from abkasia
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
Забавно,одна наша марионетка обсуждает являеются ли земли другой нашей марионетки по праву из
@kenwood2682
@kenwood2682 Ай бұрын
Abkhazia wants to be independent from US occupied Georgia
@teo_iber
@teo_iber Жыл бұрын
And why is it that so-called "independent people" have russian passports and speak russian. Abkhazians go to Georgia for medical treatment, why? Whatever russia touches with his bloody hand everything is rotting. That's what happened to these people (and not only them).
@rosarichter408
@rosarichter408 Жыл бұрын
Because with the help of Georgia, it is impossible for all citizens of Abkhazia to travel, study in other countries. They blocked the exit to the world, the lag of their opinion in the UN. How many more times will Georgians give the example of "we treat Abkhazians"? Disgusting, if you're so disgusted with it, forgive the government to close the border completely, don't blame people for just wanting to survive
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 Жыл бұрын
They aren't recognized country so they need Russian passports for travel and they learn Russian for business.
@teo_iber
@teo_iber Жыл бұрын
​ @RomanII499 Oh, that's why they support russia's invasion of Ukraine 🤡
@lukakurshubadze4319
@lukakurshubadze4319 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia was and always will be Georgia!!🇬🇪🇬🇪❤️❤️
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
Поезжай посмотри ;)
@eurovanya
@eurovanya Жыл бұрын
We’re independent but use russian money, russian army, russian pensions, russian language, russian tourists. So much for independence!
@giorgigio7651
@giorgigio7651 11 ай бұрын
Apkazia is the Georgian part.
@berdiaberidze2787
@berdiaberidze2787 10 ай бұрын
Abkhazia is part of Georgia, why you don't mention that these abandoned buildings belong to ethnical Georgians, they were dislocated after ethical cleaning.
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
Ну так поезжай посмотри какая там Грузия
@dakedakinson64
@dakedakinson64 5 ай бұрын
Abkhazia belongs only to Abkhaz people.
@vonyalkin
@vonyalkin 5 ай бұрын
well, did you know that during Stalin, he made georgians move to abkhazia and forbid apsuas to speak their language and forced them to learn and speak georgian+ Russian? Ethnical cleaning and genocide are never good, but apsuas deserve to be seen and independent.
@NiktheSl1ck
@NiktheSl1ck 2 ай бұрын
​@@vonyalkin with that logic, why won't we make megrelians independent as well? Even svans because both of them have their own language/dialect and live in the same country, but they identify themselves as Georgians
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax Жыл бұрын
Not Russian and Not Georgian. Abkhazia is Apsny, a native peoples of the Caucasus since time immemorial; Abkhazian language and culture is unique and occurs nowhere else in the world, except for diasporas.
@David-iz3ni
@David-iz3ni 11 ай бұрын
Sadly that identity might come to an end as Abkhazia in the near future is gonna get fully annexed by Russia and assimilated
@ShtoraMorkn1121
@ShtoraMorkn1121 10 ай бұрын
It is absolutely true that they have their own ethnos, however, as for Abkhazia, it always belonged to the Kingdom of Georgia, what is more, there lived Georgians, whose name was Abkhazians (like Georgians living in other parts: Imeretianss, Magrelians, Svans, etc.) Apsuas lived together with Abkhazians (Georgians), They were never in the majority. Their massive settlement was started by the bastard Russian Empire, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia wanted to somehow maintain power in the South Caucasus, guess what happened? They used the Apsuas for that, who are in the minority, to start riots As if the Georgians were oppressing them and they succeeded. Today, the Apsu of North Caucasian origin call themselves Abkhazians and think that the territory is theirs.this is true,Everything else is a fairy tale invented by Russia.
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax 10 ай бұрын
@@ShtoraMorkn1121 Apsny is indigenous just like Armenia has been indigenous to the Caucasus since time immemorial. These peoples have existed there even before the establishment of Russia for thousands of years. Abkhazia is a distinct nation from Georgia as Armenia is from Azerbaijian. The people of Apsny have the right to sovereignty under the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
@Stranger21300
@Stranger21300 10 ай бұрын
FALSE Abkhazians are part of kartvelian tribes ( Svan, Mingrellian, etc...) They just have different language,
@ShtoraMorkn1121
@ShtoraMorkn1121 10 ай бұрын
@@Stranger21300 Dude you didn't understand what I wrote, I also say that the Georgians who lived there were called Abkhazians, but today those who live there are taking our territory from us, they call themselves Abkhazians, they are not Abkhazians, they are people of northern descent(adyghea)who with the help of Russians drove out the real Abkhazians (Georgians) from there.
@georgerake5821
@georgerake5821 Жыл бұрын
What really happened was that Majority of the population of Abkhazia were Georgians forming over 45% in 1989 and basically same as Russians(14%), Abkhazians(17%) and Armenians(14%) combined, but after the war and Genocide of Georgians by those 3 groups, Georgians who survived had to leave their homes and spread across rest of the Georgian regions. Currently Abkhazia might be occupied but not for a long. Economy of Abkhazia is Scrambled, life is shit there and people are basically starving. Even though things they did, Georgia still provides most of the electricity they use in their country and also Universal free public Healthcare of Georgia is still used by people living in Abkhazia and no one knows why Georgian government is not cutting all those benefits which should be provided to only Georgian taxpayers and not fucking orcas and murderers. As I said, not much is left for them, Georgian military is getting stronger day by day, Economy is rising, while Russia is going to collapse in the war with Ukraine and then we will take a Revenge.
@cripnessful
@cripnessful Жыл бұрын
In historical context, it is essential to acknowledge that the individuals currently claiming to be Abkhazians are, in fact, Apsua people. This distinction stems from their migration to Georgia from the North Caucasus, an event known as "The Great Descent of the Mountain." The impetus for this migration was the Mongolians' arrival from the northeast. It is worth noting that a complete assimilation of the Abkhaz and Apsua people never occurred due to notable cultural differences. Remarkably, accounts by Georgian historians from the 15th and 16th centuries shed light on the repercussions of this cultural divide. These historical records attest that valuable treasures and Christian icons, highly significant at the time, were transferred to other regions. The reason behind this relocation was the divergence in religious beliefs and cultural practices between the Apsua people (who had already emerged as a distinct group) and the local Georgians. Supporting this notion, merchants utilizing maps from Venice during the same period consistently depict the city of Akua (known as Sukhumi in the Apsua language) situated on the northern side of the Caucasus Mountains, rather than its actual geographic location. This peculiarity can be attributed to the fact that the Apsua people referred to their capital city in the North Caucasus as Akua during that era. As a historian, it is crucial to analyze these historical accounts and artifacts, considering their historical context and the cultural dynamics of the time. Such examination allows for a deeper understanding of the complex interplay between the Apsua, and Georgian communities, shedding light on the historical trajectories and cultural identities of these groups.
@adamalikhan1357
@adamalikhan1357 Жыл бұрын
Ain't Georgian Russian
@ha8er463
@ha8er463 Жыл бұрын
Historian from kfc? Abkhaz is abaz (abazgia) ,they were even mentioned as pagans who worship trees by antique historian. Abazgs and apsils are our ancestors, stop spreading fake “history”. Even Georgian historians are not supporting this nonsense
@noahcaucasus
@noahcaucasus Жыл бұрын
​@@adamalikhan1357No.
@rusudanlavasulava5138
@rusudanlavasulava5138 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Unfortunately, I don't think Apsuas (present day "Abkhazians") are aware of their own history... Frankly, I think it is time they return to the North Caucasus
@iosifpeikrishvili172
@iosifpeikrishvili172 Жыл бұрын
Georgian of course 🇬🇪💪🤝 ❤
@_Sakartvelo_
@_Sakartvelo_ Жыл бұрын
0:31 in you dreams. Which independent country is governed by another state, which independent country has another country's currency? Russia even controls your breathing. 4:06 this and many destroyed buildings are proof of the Russian occupation. Abkhazia is Georgia!!
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 Жыл бұрын
Russia should leave and Georgia should stop claiming Abkhazia. Its not Russia or Georgia, its Abkhazia
@_Sakartvelo_
@_Sakartvelo_ Жыл бұрын
@@RomanII499 რომან, ერთი მაგალითი მითხარი, რაში მდგომარეობს აფხაზეთის დამოუკიდებლობა და სახელმწიფოებრიობა?! 1992-1993, 2008 წლების ომი რუსეთს იმისთვის არ დაუწყია, რომ შენ თავისუფალი იყო. აფხაზეთი და სამაჩაბლო ოკუპირებულია ღრუსეთის მიერ. მთელი ამდენი წელი კიდე ვერ მიხვდით, რომ თქვენი “გადამრჩენელი” სურვილებს არ გისრულებთ?! მეტიც, დღეს ანექსიით გემუქრებათ. სამწუხაროდ, თქვენს ოცნებებსა და რეალობას შორის დიდი სხვაობაა და მუდამ ასე იქნება ღრუსულ ოკუპაციაში 🤷‍♀️
@annats4439
@annats4439 Жыл бұрын
Such a great time to make proRussian content 👍🏻 great job.
@marrieshautidze9
@marrieshautidze9 Жыл бұрын
top notch sarcasm👌
@nuclear_addict
@nuclear_addict Жыл бұрын
Slava Rossii and I’m not being sarcastic.
@annats4439
@annats4439 Жыл бұрын
@@nuclear_addict lol, thanks for clarifying 😂 as if anyone cares
@legendking_0
@legendking_0 7 ай бұрын
Abkhazia fake Abkhazia is Georgia Sakartvelo From Azerbaijan Stop Seperatsm 🇦🇿❤️‍🔥🇬🇪
@helenhelen928
@helenhelen928 Жыл бұрын
Of course Abkhazia is a Georgia!!!🇬🇪 Russia is an OCCUPIER
@againstviralmisinformation510
@againstviralmisinformation510 Жыл бұрын
You want to occupy Abkhazia. Abkhazians don’t want you there
@takogogokhia2625
@takogogokhia2625 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is Georgia -land of Kolkheti🇬🇪 Sokhumi-Dioskuria !🇬🇪
5 ай бұрын
World: pick among your two genociders Abkhaz: none
@lukagogsadze4837
@lukagogsadze4837 Жыл бұрын
this video is making the georgians look like the antagonists lmao.u said that the georgians were trying to impose authority in abhkazia.and the burning of that building marked a victory for the abhkazians.georgians were rightfully taking their lands back from separatists[planted by russia].and look at this thing now.the soviet union in almost every country created these autonomus republics in order if the soviet union collapses these countrys would have a hard time having authority in those regions.the same is happening in ukraine with donbass and lukhansk georgia with abhkazia and south ossetia.azerbaijan with nagorno karabakh tajikistan and kyrgistan.and even russia has some of these like chechnya and others.
@datob1489
@datob1489 Жыл бұрын
Of course, Abkhazia is part of Georgia
@eriknervik9003
@eriknervik9003 Жыл бұрын
You’re about 30 years too late for this nonsense
@Тувинец-ы5ц
@Тувинец-ы5ц Жыл бұрын
Don't live in your dreams. Now Abkhazia is independent land. People of Abkhazia want to be free from Georgia, they won in Georgia-Abkhazia conflict.
@datob1489
@datob1489 Жыл бұрын
@@Тувинец-ы5ц don’t believe at the Russians, look at the world maps, Abkhazia is part of Georgia 🇬🇪
@gameover-cw7rz
@gameover-cw7rz Жыл бұрын
​@@Тувинец-ы5цyou are Putin's puppet 😂😂
@nuclear_addict
@nuclear_addict Жыл бұрын
@@gameover-cw7rzyou are NATO’s fucktoy make sure you do what NATO tells you to or else they’ll bring “democracy” to you 🤡 🤣
@alpennys
@alpennys Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is not russia, Abkhazia is not Georgia. Abkhazia is Abkhazia.
@sonofalbi9801
@sonofalbi9801 9 ай бұрын
Are you the Circassian mod on AskCaucasus? Thank you for helping keep that sub sane.
@LordDirus007
@LordDirus007 6 ай бұрын
Abkhazia and Georgia really don't understand what happened. You understand that Russia divided you to weaken the other right? For thousands years you respected each other. Until the fall of the Soviet and the rise of Russia did all of a sudden a problem occurs
@filipsykora9506
@filipsykora9506 5 ай бұрын
You are probably not Abkhazian or Georgian I assume. I think you cannot clam that they don't understand their own conflict. Yes, they did live together for a long time, but they lived most of that time under someone. Romans, Greeks, Turks, Persians, Mongols, Russians. That gave them a common enemy and before 19th century nationalism wasn't really a prevalent. In 20th century it kicked in, and let just say that Georgians didn't treat Abkhazians realy well. It got even worse when miltary junta took over Georgia after SSSR. War then starte and they did a lot of bad thing to one another. So that is my summarized opinion. You are right that Russia is using this conflict for it's own goals, but they did not created it.
@fabianalvarez8908
@fabianalvarez8908 5 ай бұрын
Abkhazia and South Ossetia are part of Georgia, period.
@kaladze93
@kaladze93 Жыл бұрын
the poor russian guy stressed out by "the situation" who has to take a vacation to get to relax and forget it....That was really heartbreaking, I feel so sorry for him, I hope he'll be able to find peace at last. Like, find peace. For good.
@ratikonjaria7648
@ratikonjaria7648 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is Georgia. There will be no peace, nor war over until Russia and Russian-backed separatists leave our country. Ask the Karabakh separatists how those deals with Russia end. I recall fellow Abkhaz citizens of Georgia who were misled by these forces of evil to come to their minds because Georgia will restore its territorial unity and sovereignty eventually, one way or another.
@againstviralmisinformation510
@againstviralmisinformation510 Жыл бұрын
You sound like Putin
@limberplatalopez2676
@limberplatalopez2676 11 ай бұрын
😂
@gegeshidze
@gegeshidze 10 ай бұрын
სადამდე დავეცით ძმებო, ქართველებო და "აფხაზებო", არაფრით არ მესმის, არ მჯერა და ვერ წარმოვიდგენ რო თქვენს გულში ისე არ დევს საქართველოს სიყვარული როგორც ჩემში აფხაზეთის, ათასჯერ მიფიქრია ძილისწინ, რო ერთდღეს ყველა მოვიყრიდით თავს ჩვენს საერთო მიწაზე, ერთმანეთს გულში ჩავიკრავთ და გადავაყრით მიწას სამწუხარო წარსულს, აგვრია ბიჭებო რუსებმა და არც თქვენ ხართ დამოუკიდებლები და არც მე არ მინდა ისე მოვკვდე რო - ერთიანად და ძმებად არ ვიწოდებოდეთ... " ო, აფხაზეთო, ამორძალი ხარ, მკერდ მოჭრილი უსაქართველოდ..." და რო იცოდეთ ძმებო, სანამ დავითი ქუთაისში დადგამდა სამეფო ტახტს, მეათე საუკუნეში, ბაგრატ მესამემდეც და მერეც ერთიანი საქართველოს "დედაქალაქი" ტახტი სოხუმში, აფხაზეთში იდგა...მტრობა ადვილია ბიჭებო, ვაჟკაცობა გვმართებს, მოკვლა კიარაა რთული და არასწორი ცხოვრება, სიმართლისთვის თვალებში ჩახედვა და შეცდომების პატიება, შერიგება და ძმობაა ვაჟკაცობა, ამის გარეშე ნული ვართ ჩვენც და თქვენც...🤍😔 გეხუტუნეთ ყველას ვინც იგივეს განიცდით რასაც მე, შემოგევლეთ ქუთაისიდან სუყველას ბიჭებოც და გოგოებოც... ერთი ვართ რამდენიც არ უნდა უკუღმა გასწავლონ, რამდენი პროპაგანდაც არ უნდა გაწვეთონ გულში ჩაიხედეთ გულში❤❤🙌
@K.K648
@K.K648 6 ай бұрын
ვის ელაპარაკები? შეაყარე კედელს ცერცვი
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
Будет забавно взглянуть на вашу попытку отбить у нас эти территории
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc Жыл бұрын
Glory to Abkhazia.
@ლეიმურაზილემურიკო
@ლეიმურაზილემურიკო Жыл бұрын
glory to Ukraine and Georgia. Abkhazia ant south Ossetia is Georgia
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc Жыл бұрын
@@ლეიმურაზილემურიკო ok
@margian1919
@margian1919 3 ай бұрын
this separatist flag will soon be thrown back ;)
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc 3 ай бұрын
@@margian1919 Try.
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc
@AkhrikArdzinba-pt4wc 3 ай бұрын
@@margian1919 Good luck Gaynashvili. Be careful though.
@MultiKm1
@MultiKm1 4 ай бұрын
Georgia shouldn't try to get Abkhazia back. The Abkhazians chose Russia. Whether that works out and they're as happy as they say there are.....well, they made their choice.
@НаТе-э2р
@НаТе-э2р 3 ай бұрын
Они убьют друг друга, там героцид был. Они воют веками.
@juradavitaia4457
@juradavitaia4457 Ай бұрын
😂funny
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is not Georgia. Georgia is state of USA.
@Oyeah12
@Oyeah12 Жыл бұрын
how's that? Georgia is much older than the American state.
@mrnoname4033
@mrnoname4033 5 ай бұрын
Abkhazia belongs to Georgia
@НаТе-э2р
@НаТе-э2р 3 ай бұрын
Они хотят быть самостоятельными без россии и грузии.
@angeurbain6129
@angeurbain6129 Жыл бұрын
The commentator is wrong at the end when he says that Russia could annex Abkazia. It is not making sense because Russia already have the control of the place and everybody seems to be happy in Abkazia about the present situation. Abkazia need a big brother. There is no way out bout that. The video says nothing about the political tension in Georgia wich can have an effect over Abkazia.
@kaladze93
@kaladze93 Жыл бұрын
if these people seemed happy to you, we have a very different idea of what happiness is
@angeurbain6129
@angeurbain6129 Жыл бұрын
So go for it: what do you mean exctaly ?@@kaladze93
@giorgi326
@giorgi326 Ай бұрын
If apkhazians are happy why do they come to georgia for medical treatment or for georgian passport?
@angeurbain6129
@angeurbain6129 Ай бұрын
@@giorgi326 One thing doesn't go against the orher. There was a war and after that people still have relations with each others
@giorgi326
@giorgi326 Ай бұрын
@@angeurbain6129 i have family in apkhazia and they live very poorly because they are isolated from the world. One day apkhazia will unite with georgia again 🇬🇪
@levanlomia9046
@levanlomia9046 4 ай бұрын
Abkhazia is part of Georgia. After soviet union collapsed, Russian backed armed minorities took control of Georgian territory and froze conflict. This is so sad to see how bad Abkhazian people are lied, they are just loosing generations for nothing
@НаТе-э2р
@НаТе-э2р 3 ай бұрын
Они вступили в россию раньше грузии. Они не хотят быть и в россии и в грузии. Они хотят жить сами.
@Misserbi
@Misserbi Жыл бұрын
If Abkhazia and South Ossetia are being protected by Russia is it possible Russia is using the territories to ensure their business in Ukraine is completed? That land claims are to secure interests and not protect lives?
@_Sakartvelo_
@_Sakartvelo_ Жыл бұрын
სამაჩაბლოა ეგ😉
@perperius4714
@perperius4714 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is unrelated to Ukraine war.
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax Жыл бұрын
Unrelated. Abkhazians regained their independence in 1993 from USSR and Georgia. Stalin/Dzugazhvili the Georgian Soviet dictator made them part of Georgia.
@Misserbi
@Misserbi 7 ай бұрын
Joseph Stalin was a hand picked pawn. Anyone from the Caucasus thrusted into Kremlin business is begging not to be murdered. It happens to every leader in Russia who did not play the game of the fox. Foxes are clever and only want rabbits. They also hide in holes.
@Ukit50
@Ukit50 Жыл бұрын
Lulling the patriots of Georgia, some Armenian figures recently justify the anti-Georgian actions of their fellow tribesmen by the fact that "Armenians are different." They say that the Armenian extremists of Abkhazia, who created the battalion named after Baghramyan, who killed and expelled the Georgian population, are “other” Armenians, not connected with the Armenians of Tbilisi and Samtskhe-Javakheti. But the "Javakh Armenians" (meaning extremists) are great "friends of Georgia", despite the obvious separatist and anti-Georgian sentiments. Like other separatists, they are “Artsakh”, whom, they say, the Georgians should help and “protect from genocide”. However, the facts testify otherwise - the policy of the Armenian nationalists in different parts of not only Georgia, but throughout the globe is fully coordinated and coordinated from the same centers. And their main goal is to “cleanse” the territories that Armenian nationalists liked from people of non-Armenian origin. In relation to the Georgian territories, the Armenian extremists of Abkhazia and Samtskhe-Javakheti initially acted in complete coordination. Moreover, it was the Armenian nationalists in Abkhazia who were the first to create illegal armed formations in order to prevent the “decrease in the share of Armenians” in Samtskhe-Javakheti by returning the indigenous population, including Muslim Georgians, to their homes. This is evidenced by the recently published memoirs of the famous Russian pro-Armenian journalist and writer Valeria Olyunina. She published on the Proza.Ru website her autobiographical story, dedicated specifically to the Abkhazian Armenians and their participation in the war against Georgia, “The Third Bullet. An episode of the Georgian-Abkhazian war" (proza.ru/2023/05/16/1140). There is a very interesting episode: “... There were two large and equally influential communities in Abkhazia, which, to put it mildly, did not quite get along with each other. "Krunk" in Sukhumi, under the leadership of Vladislav Ardzinba's associate Albert Topolyan, was an authoritarian politicized structure. And the Gagrinskaya "Mashtots" under the leadership of Arsen Chakryan is more democratic and independent. Albert Topolyan continuously tried to crush the Gagrinskys under his "Krunk". This was both before the war and during the war. Despite the fact that the battalion was created by the efforts of Albert Topolyan, the influence of the Mashtots functionaries in it was very strong. In fact, the battalion became the armed force of the Gagra district community. Mashtots activists tried their hand a couple of years before the war, of course, also under tragic circumstances. There was a well-known episode in the history of the USSR, when Meskhetian Turks returned to Georgia from exile. They went through the Krasnodar Territory and Abkhazia. Here, on the border with Abkhazia, they were met by the armed Armenians of "Mashtots". The Turks then didn’t even go to Georgia, despite the arrival of units of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs…” This passage completely exposes, firstly, the lie of the Armenian nationalists that, they say, the Abkhazian Armenian terrorist groups at first “did not even think” to participate in the separatist war, but then allegedly “forced” to join it, solely because of those who had in relation to Armenians "atrocities" of the Georgian army and armed formations. In reality, the Armenian nationalists created their illegal armed formations in Abkhazia, on the territory of Georgia long before the start of the separatist war. And even "competed" with each other in the dominance of these illegal paramilitaries in the region. The Armenian gangs "Krunk" (in fact, a branch of the separatist Karabakh "Krunk") and "Mashtots" in Abkhazia were armed even before the Abkhazian separatists themselves began to arm themselves. And the Abkhazians, drugged by separatism, began to arm themselves precisely under the influence and according to the Armenian plans of inciting separatist conflicts, by analogy with the “Artsakh” one. In addition, it should be taken into account that the Meskhetians themselves are an ethnic group of mixed Georgian-Turkic origin. Many Meskhetians are aware of their Georgian roots, consider themselves Muslim Georgians, and are no different from other Muslim Georgians, the Adjarians. It was these Meskhetians (who are aware of their Georgian origin) who first of all wanted to return to Georgia after the tragic events in Fergana. The Georgian authorities then, despite the hysterical cries of the Armenian nationalists about the "Turkish threat", met them halfway, met and helped them settle in their native land, which the repatriates considered an integral part of United Georgia (unlike the Armenian nationalists, who consider Samtskhe-Javakheti "primordially Armenian "Javakhkom"). Obviously, it is not up to the Armenian nationalists to decide who lives on Georgian soil and who does not! In the case of the Meskhetian Turks, this issue can concern only the Georgian and Turkish peoples. What right do Armenian nationalists have to dispose of foreign land when they themselves settled on this land during the years of the Russian Empire, and in the case of Javakheti, where Muslim Georgians expelled by Russian colonialists to Turkey used to live? Also, from the above passage from the story of Valeria Olyunina, it is clear that even then the USSR authorities patronized the Armenian nationalists. And instead of disarming illegal armed extremist formations that violate the rights of Soviet citizens to free movement across the territory of the USSR, they did not even allow parts of the internal troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs to disarm the presumptuous Armenian nationalists.
@alonelymockbird3899
@alonelymockbird3899 Жыл бұрын
Adjarans are muslim georgians but meshketians are not
@basharalhashimi6187
@basharalhashimi6187 Жыл бұрын
If anyone can tell me something about the colleges that teaches( literature ,fine arts, languages, medicine, islamic religion),mosques, churches, synagogues, airports, resturants, Hospitals, diamond mines, tv channels, hotels, football stadiums, newspapers and magazines, tv series, theatre, cinema, broadcast, climate, nature, native dialects, common food, folk clothes and music in Abkhazia or any other country in the world or any information in any field of knowledge or any thing in life I will be very happy and not forget his favor and ask him not to be late because I still wait
@imtiazakand3174
@imtiazakand3174 Жыл бұрын
Russia wants abkhazia like belarus, keeping control but no annexation
@MWENDA-vv5im
@MWENDA-vv5im Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is independent. It belongs to neither Russia nor Georgia.
@georgia8789
@georgia8789 Жыл бұрын
But its still basically russia😂 abkahazia is georgia so stfu
@MWENDA-vv5im
@MWENDA-vv5im Жыл бұрын
@@georgia8789 Abkhazia is a sovereign state. Deal with it.
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 Жыл бұрын
no it belongs to UN
@lestatdelioncourt5550
@lestatdelioncourt5550 Жыл бұрын
Lol, 'independent', only recognized by several countries like Nauru who get paid money for recognizing countries 🤣🤣
@Bln-f9u
@Bln-f9u Жыл бұрын
Abkhazian nationalism can be easily summarised by being Russia's b*tch
@ЛеонК-е9ъ
@ЛеонК-е9ъ Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is Abkhazia!
@ЛютикБлять-л9н
@ЛютикБлять-л9н 2 ай бұрын
I have been to Abkhazia and I will say this, let the Abkhazians decide for themselves how they want to live.
@shoich7620
@shoich7620 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video , I just wanted to say to all the people who is reading comments ,that Abkhazia is Abkhazia ,y’all can’t accept our history from our side( if you can’t do it ,go and read the history of our brothers -circassians ),you saying that a lot of Georgian lived in that place , they called Abkhazians “their brother” but then the war started they were killing “their brothers and sisters”,y’all saying that Russian supported Abkhazia ,but don’t wanna say that firstly they supported Georgians by guns and so on. All the Georgians that left Abkhazia crying about their old houses, and a lot of Abkhazians crying because of their dead sons and daughters, do you feel the differences? Nobody want war , in 2024 people still can’t accept that both side don’t like each other, even if Georgians “like us” they like us not as Abkhazians,but as Georgia citizens
@bekalabadze1336
@bekalabadze1336 Жыл бұрын
Also one saddest thing, 25 years old abkhaz girl counting flags of the countries which recognized ‘’independence’’ of the region. You can simply feel what is separatism and from where it has been started. To the Armenians who support this illegal activity of Russia in georgian territory: we remember your biggest role to stole these lands, thieves will be punished sooner or later ❤
@perperius4714
@perperius4714 Жыл бұрын
Armenia?
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax 10 ай бұрын
Vori Zakon. Most of the Armenians are in America. Come to Glendale.
@helenhelen928
@helenhelen928 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia part of Georgia! 🇬🇪
@againstviralmisinformation510
@againstviralmisinformation510 Жыл бұрын
No
@plsegott
@plsegott Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is abkhaz, neither russian or georgian.
@kobansuslu211
@kobansuslu211 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia belongs to Abkhazians and Circassians they had shed enough blood by the Russians many years ago also there's a genocide that the Russians have not accepted in the year 1864 is very unsettling, they forcefully pushed us out from our motherlands and integrated wealthy elite Russians into the area. there are many stories from our elders about people fleeing the terror and starvation many people died on the boats that where headed to Turkey, they say they river ran red that day, bodies washed up on the shores of the Black coast As a descendent of the Trisba Abkhaz tribe I will never forget and continue our traditions into further generations by educating as much one can about our culture. long live ABKHAZIA
@Nn1k_kkaaa
@Nn1k_kkaaa Жыл бұрын
Just Give us the Historical evidences 🤣 No one mentioned Abkhazia as a Circassian or Independent state untill 20-21th Century, even Abkhazian Kingdom was Georgian origin with fully Georgian Culture, Architecture and everything💋🙋🏼‍♂️
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax 10 ай бұрын
Iosif Stalin, Georgian, forced Abkhazia SSR into Georgia SSR. Apsny has been there way before the Russian and Roman empires existed.@@Nn1k_kkaaa
@pragueexpat5106
@pragueexpat5106 Жыл бұрын
Just ask yourselves: Does the name "Abkhazia" sounds like a Russian word?
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax 10 ай бұрын
It's "Apsny." The people as fierce as lions.
@JonnyTheRevelator
@JonnyTheRevelator 6 ай бұрын
As Georgian I really feel sad that for more than 30 years Abkhazia is on a stand still, I feel for the residents I really do. Please understand one thing, we do not want and never wanted bloodshed, I believe one day we can sit down Georgians and Abkhazians without Russia and come to terms how to move on with our lives together just like we have done it for centuries.
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
Будет интересно взглянуть на то,как вы собираетесь отбить у нас эти территории
@JonnyTheRevelator
@JonnyTheRevelator 6 ай бұрын
@@maniac7979 If you are Russian I have nothing to say to you, that is not your territory it never was, if you are Abkhazian read my comment once again, I never said we are going to take it from you by any force, we need to come to terms like civilised people, noone in Georgia wants another war, we consider you our brothers even if we had our differences in the past.
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
​@@JonnyTheRevelatorда я русский,и я не знал что Абхазия не входила в состав СССР и российской империи, удивительно чему вас в школе учат,хотя это не так важно,гораздо важнее чьи эти территории сейчас,и они принадлежат России,хотя формально нет,но фактически именно Москва контролирует Абхазию,от экономики и армии,до пропаганды и культуры,и вопрос времени когда Россия официально присоеденит эти земли,вы и сами понимаете что время не на вашей стороне,чем больше пройдет лет,тем сильнее будет разрыв,а когда Россия аннексирует эти земли шансов у вас уже не будет,запад рано или поздно пойдет на восстановление отношений,слишком Россия важна,в отличии от Грузии которая де факто и так подчиняется России,помогает обходить санкции,арестовывает тех кто едет воевать за Украину,копирует законы России типо закона об иностранных агентах,хотя справедливости ради,у вас был шанс вернуть потерянные территории аналогично Аджарии,на с приходом Саакашвили и попыткой вернуть их силой вы навсегда из потеряли,а мы приобрели,и да я был в Абхазии,прекрасная природа,и люди вас там совсем не ждут
@JonnyTheRevelator
@JonnyTheRevelator 6 ай бұрын
@@maniac7979 and you need new lands why? You have half of the globe and you do not know what to do with it. Abhkazia was georgia long before Russian emipre was expanded on south caucasus, why you do not take into account that period? why history begins when you take some land by force? if so half of your territories belong to Golden horde as well as Georgia it was under Mongolian rule for 200 years. Borders do not change when territoru is annexed. But I understand this is history your midget tells you, you have to believe. Btw what current Abkhazians think about your theory that it is Russia? I agree with every word you say about your intentions, we knew it long time ago that you do not care about small ethnic groups like you say, all you care is expansion. Although I really do not understand why the f*ck you want to restore empire? Why cannot you live in peace with your neighbours?
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
@@JonnyTheRevelator мы лишь берём то что может принадлежать нам,и легко интегрируется,то что было до,сейчас не имеет никакого значения,в мире действует право сильного,хочет Израиль Голанские высоты,значит забирает их,хочет США вторгнутся в Ирак вторгается,хочет Россия взять земли берет,да многие наши земли принадлежали ранее Монголии,пусть она их возьмёт если сможет,но естественно она ничтожна,и нет мы не хотим восстановить империю,мы берём территории с преимущественно русскоязычным населением,или близких к нему,например Азербайджан нам не нужен,как и большая часть центральной Азии,только то что легко интегрировать,и имеет значения, отношения с соседями либо уважают либо боятся,мы современем подружимся с соседями,но только на наших условиях,другого выбора у наших соседей просто нет,ну и да,мнение абхазцев никто спрашивать не будет,но если уж на то пошло,то они выберут Россию а не Грузию,это точно
@Jildafilm
@Jildafilm Жыл бұрын
Почитай историю милое дитя , может потом изменишь своё мнение . А я скажу коротко если бы не " ГРУЗИН СТАЛИН " то вымерли бы уже давным давно
@Ellis-zr1qd
@Ellis-zr1qd Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is neither Georgian or Russian Abkhazia is Abkhazia
@juradavitaia4457
@juradavitaia4457 Ай бұрын
Stop being dlusional you will never be a country
@attilaturan3831
@attilaturan3831 Жыл бұрын
Only moskov is russian others wont be their..
@maomao8739
@maomao8739 Жыл бұрын
GREAT INFO
@elsevarmammadli3593
@elsevarmammadli3593 18 күн бұрын
It’s so sad that both Azerbaijan and Georgia suffered from the same problem, however Georgia never supported Azerbaijan in the Karabakh conflict against Armenia although Azerbaijan have always been there for Georgia. But it’s okay we solved the Karabakh conflict by liberating it from Armenian occupation but ooonat Georgia. So sad.
@tommy-ho1iu
@tommy-ho1iu Жыл бұрын
Please also talk about Circassia.
@artetvdocumentary
@artetvdocumentary Жыл бұрын
We have forwarded your suggestion to our editorial team.
@tommy-ho1iu
@tommy-ho1iu Жыл бұрын
@@artetvdocumentary I am a Circassian in diaspora, thanks a lot for your efforts!
@Footballlover-p1k
@Footballlover-p1k Жыл бұрын
Afxazua gorgia🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
@NickAndriadze
@NickAndriadze 4 ай бұрын
Definitely wouldn't've expected to ever see radical Abkhazian propaganda in the mainstream, the fact that these people really think the way the do and percieve themselves as benevolent and valiant freedom fighters after their history of separatism, fascism and unnessecary bloodshed is truly insane. I'm all for listening to the other side of different conflicts and understanding their point, but this _REALLY_ is not it... But with all that said, I love Abkhazia, I really do. It's one of the most beautiful and diverse parts of already very beautiful Georgia, with many geological records such as two deepest caverns in the world, shortest river, strongest underground water streams, etc. And the fact that the Soviet Union's heritage has been partially preserved is very nice. It has unfortunately vanished in most of Georgia, with statues, mosaics, bas-reliefs & other Soviet architecture destroyed/abandoned.
@Ukit50
@Ukit50 Жыл бұрын
On June 5, 2023, the following announcement was circulated on Armenian social networks: “The Armenian community in Georgia informs that tomorrow, June 6, at 16:00, a rally in support of Artsakh will be held near the Armenian embassy at 4 Tetelashvili Street. 06/06/16:00. For information, about 4.5% of the total population of Georgia are Armenians. This is approximately 160 thousand people. The extremist "Armenian Community of Georgia" again, violating the legislation of Georgia and inciting ethnic hatred, promotes separatism in Tbilisi. In the capital of the country affected by separatism and lost because of it 20% of the territory and tens of thousands of lives. There is no doubt that during their action, Armenian nationalists will once again talk about allegedly “120 thousand Armenians of Artsakh”. In reality, there are much fewer Armenians left in Azerbaijani Karabakh. There are not even 30,000 in Karabakh, and these 30,000 are in favor of separating Karabakh from Azerbaijan. Those. does this automatically mean that 160,000 Armenians in Georgia may also demand separation of the territory from Georgia? It is difficult to imagine what kind of chaos the Caucasus can expect. After all, “according to the logical desire” of the Armenian separatists, this means that they have the right to demand this wherever they want, contrary to common sense and international law. Any propaganda of separatism on the territory of Georgia is in itself a threat to Georgian statehood, since the baton of separatism of the last century and the propaganda of separatism and terrorism are purposefully passed on to a new generation of possible future separatists! Especially if one takes into account the separatist sentiments among Armenians in the Georgian region of Samtskhe-Javakheti. Georgian historians have repeatedly noted in their national works and articles how, on the eve of the collapse of the USSR, at the congress of the Dashnaks, the “Jvakhk” direction of Armenian aggression and separatism lost only one vote to the “Artsakhkom”. Which eventually resulted in a bloody war, the occupation of the Azerbaijani Karabakh and the expulsion of over 1 million Azerbaijanis from there. In Georgia, no one will forget those separate projects that were programmed and activated by the Kremlin and the Armenian lobby in Abkhazia and Samachablo. With their separatist propaganda, they deliberately sowed enmity between the Georgians and their fraternal Abkhaz and Ossetian peoples. During the war in Abkhazia, the same Armenian separatist fighters who fought in Karabakh against Azerbaijan fought and carried out ethnic cleansing against the peaceful Georgian population. And it turns out that today Georgia tolerates the propaganda of separatism, which led to the tragedy of Abkhazia and Samachablo? Separatism is openly promoted in the capital of the country, which has lost tens of thousands of lives because of the separatists, including because of the Armenian militants! In the capital of the country, where over 300,000 refugees from Abkhazia still cannot return to their homes due to separatism. It is the organization promoting separatism that advocates the separation of Samtskhe-Javakheti from Georgia and the illegal appropriation of Georgian shrines by Armenians! How is this even possible!? Moreover, the separatists of "Artsakh", who are going to be protected in the center, were the first to recognize the so-called. independence of the separatist regimes in Sukhumi and Tskhinvali. The propaganda machine of separatism and extremism by the "Armenian community of Georgia" must be stopped. In Georgia, all peoples, all ethnic groups can and will coexist in peace and harmony, and this is facilitated by the Georgian Constitution of the country. The Armenian people must step back and tear off the ideology of the “sacrificial people”, from the extremist elements and propagandists of separatism once and for all in the Caucasus.
@ha8er463
@ha8er463 Жыл бұрын
What is the title of the video ?
@vanateli
@vanateli 2 ай бұрын
Abkhazia is and always will be Georgia ! It’s temporary occupied by the Russians, but no Georgian will allow Abkhazian independence, as it has always been part of Georgia since the history is written
@РусланЗаурбеков-з6е
@РусланЗаурбеков-з6е 9 ай бұрын
That's really funny how narrator manages to pronounce some "soki" for Sochi -- and this is even after Sochi Olympics!!! )))
@Lonely_AsteroidBelt16
@Lonely_AsteroidBelt16 Жыл бұрын
What,what,what why does it say Русская?
@ladogeradze4318
@ladogeradze4318 5 ай бұрын
Apkhazia is Georgia ! We will back soon❤ don’t worry please my Apkhazian sister and brother. Just relax😊
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
80% of Abkhazians in the 19th century were deported to Turkey by the Russian Empire. Georgians were settled in empty houses and on lands. That is why there were more Georgians in the 20th century than Abkhazians. Before the deportation of the Abkhazians, Georgians did not live in Abkhazia.
@georgian929
@georgian929 Жыл бұрын
That's the lie Russia wants you to believe. Sanigs and Missimians were Georgian tribes that were native to modern day Abkhazian territory.
@AdamIPA
@AdamIPA Жыл бұрын
@@georgian929 Саниг-Санба(Сандрипш), Мисимиан-Маршан. Это Абхазские племена, все ученные говорят это именно так. Грузинские племена не жили в Абхазии некогда.
@georgian929
@georgian929 Жыл бұрын
@@AdamIPA 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
@_Sakartvelo_
@_Sakartvelo_ Жыл бұрын
@@AdamIPA And why was the spoken and church language Georgian in the territory of Abkhazia? The Apsu people, who settled on the territory of Georgia after the persecution of Russia, we Georgians even called you Abkhazians, you were Muslims. And Abkhazians were and are Georgians, that's why there were always churches with Georgian inscriptions in this territory and there were never mosques.
@_Sakartvelo_
@_Sakartvelo_ Жыл бұрын
In 1801, the Kingdom of Kartl-Kakheti was annexed by the Russian Empire. This led to the annexation of other parts of Georgia to Russia. Russian troops invaded Abkhazia in 1810 and captured the city of Sukhumi. After the Russian army established full control over the adjacent territories of Abkhazia, a decision was made in St. Petersburg to abolish the Abkhazian sovereignty. The last chief, Mikheil Sharvashidze, was arrested and exiled to Russia, and direct Russian rule was introduced in Abkhazia. (in 1864). The Abkhazian people resisted the establishment of the Russian colonial regime. Large-scale armed uprisings took place in 1821-1827, 1840-1842, 1866, 1877. The bloody suppression of the rebellion was accompanied by the forced migration of Abkhazians to the Ottoman Empire. After the defeat of the Caucasian mountain peoples in 1864, the Russian government began to implement the previously developed plan - to expel the mountain people from their native lands, especially from the eastern shores of the Black Sea. At that time, about 700 thousand Circassians, Ubykhs, Abkhazians, Chechens, Dagestanis and other mountain people were forced to move to Ottomans. After the Abkhaz rebellion of 1877, the Russian authorities decided to punish the Abkhazians and officially declared the entire Abkhazian population guilty. Their rights were significantly restricted, Abkhazians were forbidden to live in a large part of the territory of Abkhazia, in particular, in the seaside, in the Maghamltian zone and in the vicinity of Sukhumi, 25 kilometers from the city. The status of guilty population was removed from the Abkhaz people only in 1907. The Russian government resettled colonists - Russians, Greeks, Armenians - in the vacated territories of Abkhazia, so that a population loyal to the government would appear here. In order to limit Georgian cultural influence in Abkhazia, the Russian administration decided to create an Abkhazian alphabet based on Russian graphics, which should facilitate the Russification of Abkhazians in the future. This is how the first Abkhazian alphabet was created in 1862, which was subsequently changed several times. In 1928-1938, Latinized script was used, in 1938-1954, the alphabet created on the basis of Georgian graphics was used, since 1954, the alphabet developed on the basis of Russian graphics has been used. It is the same even now, Russia is chasing everything Abkhazian from this territory, and you call them friends. At this time you are occupied by Russia, this is called a brainwashed society, just like the Russians themselves, thinking people are not needed by this evil empire. Spreading Russian lies will not bring you freedom and will not change the real history of Georgia.
@LukaMamukelashvili
@LukaMamukelashvili Жыл бұрын
Look at the environment.. they chose Russia over us for this? this place still looks like it's stuck in 1990s.. what Freedom are they talking about when they're COMPLETELY dependent on Russia? this is so ironic it's sad.
@ha8er463
@ha8er463 Жыл бұрын
We never chose Russia , and never will. We demand independence
@LukaMamukelashvili
@LukaMamukelashvili Жыл бұрын
@@ha8er463 Please, you think Russia will ever allow that? Even our independence is hanging by the thread, half our government is on Russian payroll, Russian forces could march in any day they wished, they have them stationed right at the border. They're toying with us, and unfortunately you're the bait. You're not even important enough for them to invest and make Abkhazia a beautiful blooming region that it could be today. Look at how they built up Sochi, why is Sokhumi still in such a state today?
@ha8er463
@ha8er463 Жыл бұрын
@@LukaMamukelashvili Sochi is an ugly shithole, sukhum seaside is way better , architecture style here is ageing like fine wine, and Sochi is tasteless bunch of buildings. And I think that you are overrating Russian abilities ,we demand independence, unlike Ossetians we don’t want to be annexed by Russia.
@RomanII499
@RomanII499 Жыл бұрын
Abkhazia is independent not Russia
@Amanbiswas_2003.
@Amanbiswas_2003. 8 ай бұрын
8:29 according to her every state/province/Oblasts/ any other administrative divisions must be a separate country which has its own culture or language, like as she mentioned Abkazia has its own culture and language that's why it must be separate country. According to her concept countries like mine Republic of India(Bharat) which has states, some states have similar culture and language and some are different from each other, so states which has its own culture and language must be an independent country. In the same way Russia consists of many Republics which is completely different from russian culture and language like for example Republic of Yakutia, Keralia Oblast, etc. Above mentioned must be independent according to her consists, russia must give independence to them. She and the peoples of Abkazia(who supports independence)deserve all those things like as she mentioned 'neither going to Russia nor west', no recognition.
@dzhigit
@dzhigit Жыл бұрын
Neither, obviously. Abkhazia should be an independent country, free from interference from both Russia and Georgia.
@Amerikka
@Amerikka 6 ай бұрын
You should not have titled like that!!!! No question asked. Amkhazia is GEORGIA 🇬🇪 , always has been and will be!!!
@NuestroPana_Miguel
@NuestroPana_Miguel 11 ай бұрын
Abkhazia i georgia somos un pais inkreible. gente de abkhazia son mi sangre , mi corazon . Mi dolor . Mi alma. Abkhazia es mi casa . Es mi tiera
@climate_anti-hoax
@climate_anti-hoax 10 ай бұрын
Hasta la victoria, hermano! Siempre!
@sonofalbi9801
@sonofalbi9801 9 ай бұрын
Shvili is an Eastern Georgian surname ending. You are most likely a colonizer or a descendant of one, not a native Abkhaz person.
@maniac7979
@maniac7979 6 ай бұрын
Автомат в руки и вперёд
@AndroZaza-dj2hf
@AndroZaza-dj2hf 2 ай бұрын
The Abkhazian nation never existed historically. Abkhazia was the name of western Georgia and Abkhazians were western Georgians. So the Abkhazian nation was the same as the Western Georgian nation, while the old, Christian, Georgian Abkhazians no longer exist today. However, the name Abkhaz today is incorrectly used in connection with the Apsua tribe. Apsua, or Apsarni, is a North Caucasian, Adyghe tribe.
@Backhurtsbad
@Backhurtsbad Жыл бұрын
Annex of this region by the Russians and acknowledging the Abkhaz people in there, while investing a lot of money for tourists from all over would make a lot of sense woudnt it ? ? Its no like they re not being held alive by the russian while we speak.
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