Ableton's Secret New Sequencers

[@VentureNW]

The Rhythmic Steps device is really awesome for creating some very unique and evolving drums, on a drum rack

[@matttinklermusic]

100%!! I really like it 😁

[@thepatzer]

Nice demo. This is cool. Not quite Electron level but got a bit of that creative sequencing mojo. Something Ableton really needed.

[@matttinklermusic]

Agreed! Thanks for watching. :)

[@MrMarco33333]

Wow, these are awesome. I love tools like Step Sequencers.

[@matttinklermusic]

Yeah they're really fun to play with! 😁

[@SONWU]

Always great & informative videos here, thanks!

[@matttinklermusic]

Thank you for watching! :D

[@StevenNess]

If you were confused on why you didn't hear the open hi hat, it was because the closed hi hat was used for both 2:30

[@matttinklermusic]

That'd be why! It worked out anyway because I wanted to use the alt-feature. :)

[@Italliving]

Its already in live 12.1 just checked 🙂 , thanks for bringing this up

[@matttinklermusic]

You're welcome! These are some really cool devices.

[@Italliving]

@@matttinklermusic indeed , but just not 64 bars ... makes it still limited but you certainly can be very creative with them, always interesting to play with sequencers , the replace is actually very nice as before i needed to use a drum replacer or something similar

[@Sivart713]

Yup. I was like FINALLY. Was fun messing with them. Will tinker more with them later.

[@matttinklermusic]

They're very fun!

[@meskahmusic]

My god I've been waiting for this since 2009

[@matttinklermusic]

They are very cool!

[@directed6924]

Love your high energy levels in every video. What's the secret?

[@matttinklermusic]

Haha, thank you! Honestly, I really just love talking about this stuff, and that translates to my energy levels. 😁

[@ericschurig8683]

Very cool! and very helpful thnx! sooo many awesome devices😅

[@matttinklermusic]

You're very welcome!! Yeah these are some really nice additions! 😁

[@vxd]

hey so how did you do that ""vel > cutoff" mapping??

[@matttinklermusic]

I just had the velocity controlling the cutoff in Drift and then mapped a macro to the depth parameter of the modulation. :)

[@vxd]

@@matttinklermusic maybe you can make a short video on this as I have no idea how to do that, and Im a very experienced user of Ableton!

[@maykit]

Nice. Just wanred to say that quantizers often kill the sinister techno vibe.

[@Vindamato]

Is there a way to print the midi that's being generated? Or is the best way to route this out is to use the drum rack output routing?

[@matttinklermusic]

You could set up a MIDI track to receive the MIDI input from the track the sequencer is on, post FX, and record to that track. :)

[@barendtromp]

Hi Matt, how can I transfer the (midi) notes of the sequencers as midi notes to the session or arrangement screen? and can I start the sequencer at a certain point in the arrangement? hope you can answer that, thanks! great video

[@Italliving]

send it to another channel sir and record the midi

[@matttinklermusic]

Sending the MIDi to another track is the correct answer for recording! In order to start the sequencer at a certain point in the arrangement, I think there are some ways of manually triggering the different sequencers. I'll maybe try and get a proper video out about these sequencers at some point soon. :)

[@barendtromp]

@@matttinklermusic thanks Matt. Yes found out about recording the midi on another track. Thought there might be a way to drag the midi track from the sequencer to a track, like you can on some other plugins, but there isn’t.

[@matttinklermusic]

@barendtromp that would be a really awesome thing for them to implement! I think it might be a bit hard though because the sequencers can be quite probability-based, which means it would have to generate new MIDI every time you exported it.

[@Nomo_Popo]

EDIT: Ohhhh you have to download them at the beta forum, sorry if you said that in the vid I guess I wasn't paying attention I cannot freakin find these....are they in a pack or something? I'm in the newest 12.1b14 beta. Nice channel btw

[@matttinklermusic]

Yes, you have to download separately! Sorry if that wasn't clear, but I'm glad you figured it out. :)

[@medenine4828]

@@matttinklermusic I don't even see them in the Live 12 beta releases page, have they been taken down?

[@michelebernabei]

hey i have Love12 and m4l but i can't find Rhythmic Steps can you tell me where i can download it?

[@matttinklermusic]

Hey! The devices are currently only available in the beta program at the moment. :)

[@rareyman]

Isn’t Step Arp pretty much an update to the existing ARP M4L device?

[@christiankleine9551]

Yes 🙂

[@matttinklermusic]

Yeah it is! :)

[@CarlitoProductions]

Looks like they internalized Ned Rush's M4L device

[@matttinklermusic]

Not sure I'm familiar with that device! Would you be able to link it? :)

[@markszili2577]

Can these be used to send to hardware synths?

[@matttinklermusic]

Absolutely! Just put the 'External Instrument' device after the sequencer on a track and route that to your synth. ☺️

[@markszili2577]

@@matttinklermusic Awesome this will make a fine addition to my collection

[@montanamaxxamillion]

Can they be used with launchpad mk3?

[@matttinklermusic]

I don't think they will have any kind of deep integration with the launchpad unfortunately

[@alexkid1]

Can you recod the midi output?

[@matttinklermusic]

Yep! Just set up a new MIDI track and set its input to the track with the sequencer on it, and make sure it's Post FX. Then you can just record on the new MIDI track. :)

[@alexkid1]

@@matttinklermusic Thanks a bunch good sir! A real lifesaver!

[@mickekling]

It looks like they weren’t added to the public 12.1 update 😕

[@matttinklermusic]

They were actually! They come with Suite as a pack that you can download from the browser. :)

[@mickekling]

@@matttinklermusic Ahhh, thank you 😃

[@TheGoldenWreath]

Can you access those sequencers from the push standalone ? I hate laptops. But push 3 standalone seems powerful but very boring.

[@matttinklermusic]

You should be able to but I can't speak to how good the integration is as I haven't tried these with Push 3 yet. If you're on the fence about a Push 3, there is always the controller version that you can later upgrade to standalone. :)

[@inveruriedruglegend1550]

No you can’t.

[@vxd]

Also, does anyone know what "condition" actually does??

[@matttinklermusic]

It's a bit hard to explain, but it basically sets whether or not that step will play a sound every certain number of loops. For example, if it's set to 2, that step will only play every 2 loops. If it's set to 3, it'll only play every 3 loops. With negative values, that step WONT play every certain number of loops, but will play the others.

[@vxd]

@@matttinklermusic makes sense but not sure the use case for this??

[@morizanova]

MAX4 Live version of audio modern Riffer ?

[@matttinklermusic]

In a way I guess, yeah!

[@minhthanhnguyen8239]

Why isn't it showing up on my 12.1.1 ?

[@matttinklermusic]

You need to download the 'Sequencers' pack from the 'Packs' section in the browser. :)

[@dman030]

These are very creative. Not a big sequencer fan, but am checking these out. Thanks. :-)

[@matttinklermusic]

Definitely worth checking out, they can be used in some pretty creative ways for sure. :)

[@joemurphy8972]

Can't seem to find these in 12.1b10

[@joemurphy8972]

nvm, found the link

[@matttinklermusic]

Perfect!

[@realplu]

Seems other would benefit from such knowledge ​@@matttinklermusic

[@RTH1122]

@@joemurphy8972 Where?

[@mthomas1091]

Anyone know why the Live 12 Betas seem to kill my Control Surface Scripts (at least ClyphX Pro)? Is it a “beta thing”? Or is ClyphX Pro about to die?

[@matttinklermusic]

I have no idea, sorry! I don't personally use ClyphX Pro. I'd potentially reach out to either Ableton Support or ClyphX support (or both) and ask.

[@Nomo_Popo]

Either it has to be updated or support might have to be dropped because the developer eventually got hired by ableton awhile ago (though maybe on a contractual basis) On the isotonik page for Clyphx Pro it says 12.1 not supported :/

[@littlemateyfilmsltd]

Plays well @ .75 speed. Covers what the new sequencers/ buttons can do, but not really much application to music. Telling us that you don''t know stuff is not interesting.

[@matttinklermusic]

Thanks for watching! This video was purely a first impressions, definitely not intended as a tutorial. Regardless, I'm glad it was still useful for you even a little. :)

[@davidbyourplanb]

Great idea to group Rhythmic Steps into an effects rack to cover all 16 notes/pads!

[@matttinklermusic]

Glad you thought so! :D

[@subzonepen]

So... a flock of seagulls?

[@matttinklermusic]

Yes, they were very audible to me during filming 😂

[@iqnill]

Someone got a copy of Bitwig...

[@matttinklermusic]

I downloaded the trial. Still haven't decided whether or not to purchase it yet. :)

[@iqnill]

@@matttinklermusic :) I actually meant whoever wrote those sequencers and mainly the arp, it's slowly getting there.

[@matttinklermusic]

Ah I get you! :)

[@iqnill]

@@matttinklermusic Anyway, do yourself a favour and have deep dive into Bitwig. I've always been a BT user and had to get Live for a few projects, it feels like getting out of a comfy bus and following a donkey through a muddy bog ;)

[@Artek604]

They're not "secret" - they're in beta testing for release together with 12.1

[@matttinklermusic]

To be fair, they were put into the beta without much info surrounding them and have to be downloaded manually, so I thought that using the word 'secret' was fair. I also liked the alliteration. 😂

[@Artek604]

@@matttinklermusic Yeah, I see your point. I had lots of fun with them, hope 12.1 is out soon. Oh, and subscribed - you've a fun channel :)

[@alb_reuel]

when is 12.1 out? i'm so hyped with beta

[@johnqpublic4662]

@@matttinklermusicThey’re secret to me. I don’t have 12.1 Beta, and Ableton won’t say when it will release.

[@PhilBeatz1]

@@Artek604when do you think it’ll come out

[@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69]

These are pretty much the same free sequencers you can find for M4L devices. Nothing new here or even cool.

[@matttinklermusic]

They are basically updates to existing sequencer devices across various different packs for sure, but I think that the way they're packaged up and function is actually pretty cool! It doesn't need to be new and innovative for it to be fun and cool, but if you don't like them then that's totally fine too! :)

[@bboymac84]

Why should a basic sequencer be a “secret!? That’s just dumb and weird. This is stock in FL🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@PLASKmusic]

These sequencers are all still in beta as far as I’m aware. You can download and install them as devices to use in Live 12.1 beta as of the time this video came out. I’m guessing once Live 12.1 goes public, they will either be a part of the core library, or maybe released as part of a separate Live Pack.

[@bboymac84]

@@PLASKmusic wow a sequencer in 2024 a beta!? C’mon Ableton!! Step up!!

[@Mopark25]

Because not every DAW is sequencer based

[@matttinklermusic]

It's just a new tool that they've been working on, and because it needs testing it's been put in the beta program. :)

[@bboymac84]

@@matttinklermusic dope but Ableton should have this by default like other DAWS