Shaping a Hydraulic Rod Clevis Part 2

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Abom79

Abom79

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I continue getting the block shaped square, flat, and parallel on all sides. After checking the vise I realized that it was not trammed perfectly, so once I got it squared up, I continued on with the cuts getting the clevis shaped close to finish sizes.
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@jimmykelley9209
@jimmykelley9209 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, I know you said you were having a surgical procedure done and left it at that. I just wanted you to know that all your folowers appreciate you making content to post while you are recovering. I've watched just about every video you have posted. I can honestly say that I have learned something new from every video. I wish you well in your recovery and will keep you in my prayers. Machine on brother
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jimmy. I haven't had the procedure yet, that's on the 19'th. But I have been making content to share when I'm recovering afterwards. I'll be back this week for another SNS. Thanks for the well wishes!
@jwdickinson643
@jwdickinson643 Жыл бұрын
I’m watching this again in 2023 after you have opened your own new shop. You have DEFINITELY come a VERY long way on your professional journey, Adam. Hearty congratulations and the very best wishes for a long and happy future!
@73DiamondReo
@73DiamondReo 6 жыл бұрын
Subbed about a month ago and really enjoy your videos. I like that you show more than one way to skin a cat. I have a handful of old construction equipment and custom garden tractors that sometimes require custom parts. My machinist skills are minimal but I'm working on it and watching users like yourself are incredibly helpful
@dutchman56t
@dutchman56t 5 жыл бұрын
Adam, worked for my dad at his small job shop growing up and later took over the business when he retired. Most of our machines were, well, more used than yours but made a living at it! Lots of fun watching your channel and can almost smell the cutting oil ! Carry on the good work :)
@dave7144-j9e
@dave7144-j9e 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Thanks for bring back memories. I was a machinist for 31 years in the steel mills and the Air Force. I could smell the cutting oil watching your video:)
@LittleshopofFredrik
@LittleshopofFredrik 6 жыл бұрын
Adam, thanks for posting more videos of the shaper. Thanks to you i´ve cleaned up my shaper that´s been sitting for almost a year in the shop, getting more and more dirty. You really inspire me to learn more about shaping and do more jobs on the shaper. The work you do is both informative and fun to watch. Thanks for posting your awesome videos!
@onlooker251
@onlooker251 6 жыл бұрын
It’s wonderful to see this machine in action doing the job it’s intended for. It has a very ‘soothing’ motion and sound when it’s cutting. Interesting to actually see the effects on surface finish and tool build up with & without the cutting oil. I can I imagine the smell of the cutting oil - just as you say “it’s the smell of a workshop”! Look forward to watch the next video clip of this project. John🇬🇧
@ThomasEJensen_TEJ
@ThomasEJensen_TEJ 6 жыл бұрын
Someone immediately get Abby some "Eau du mashineshop" :-D Thanks for a great couple of episodes. always makes my Saturday brighter. ;-)
@josecunha731
@josecunha731 6 жыл бұрын
...that cutting oil smell brings back so many memories of my dad's shop, you're absolutely right.
@hnobleh
@hnobleh 6 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful machine., You did an expert job rebuilding it. The results speak for themselves!!!! I rebuilt my '50s drill press. It was old, oil was caked and the bearings totally worn out. Loved every minute of the job.
@DavidCookeZ80
@DavidCookeZ80 6 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories of being taught how to use a shaper as part of the engineering part of my electronics training. I was always impressed about how simply and effectively it could remove material with a hand-ground tool. Smoking slightly blued chips and that seemingly lazy motion saying I can do this all day. Nice to see one being used to make something useful. Thank you.
@coverfrequency2305
@coverfrequency2305 6 жыл бұрын
I have been binge watching your channel since a Canadian pointed me this way. Got my father hooked as well who just got a replacement clapper box for his shaper. I have learned so much in a short time watching your videos, and how to accomplish projects I have been blueprinting up, as well as how to set up video recording for my own channel. I'm really enjoying all the explanations of how and why you set things up.
@kenhutchens513
@kenhutchens513 6 жыл бұрын
That is a beast of a machine. Large and in charge like Adam and I say that with respect not venom. Love your work sir, and your content. Please keep it coming.
@nathanscheele9197
@nathanscheele9197 6 жыл бұрын
Adam, thank you again for all that you do with your videos. I look forward to the new SNS every Saturday.
@Huskiedrive361
@Huskiedrive361 6 жыл бұрын
That shaper is awesome. Unbelievable how the old girl can plow metal ! And accurate too! Great job Adam!
@gaz2988
@gaz2988 6 жыл бұрын
When threading pipe we use cutting oil for the same reasons you have shown, it stops the chips damaging the thread and the dies.Keep up the good work,the shaper is working great.
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
Cutting oil for pipe and bolt threading is a must. I used to have an old Oster pipe threading machine.
@kmacksb
@kmacksb 4 жыл бұрын
I love watching it with the cutting oil smoke, honestly. It looks very primitive - like a steam engine, almost. That shaper is a thing of beauty, really.
@shortribslongbow5312
@shortribslongbow5312 6 жыл бұрын
That smoke is the perfume of a working mans shop and I like it!
@bjre.wa.8681
@bjre.wa.8681 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Well Put
@geoffreylee5199
@geoffreylee5199 6 жыл бұрын
The Zen of parts manufacturing. Good Teacher.
@broggyr
@broggyr 6 жыл бұрын
Been following your progress since you brought that shaper home. Must be an amazing feeling of accomplishment restoring that machine to full working order and actually using it for jobs.
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 6 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful machine. I have a 14" Elliott shaper and thought it was a beast until I saw this one! The best thing about a shaper is the sheer amount of metal it can remove. One job it is great for is cutting internal splines, it the greatest at doing this. I would not be without my one.
@bryanwyatt9829
@bryanwyatt9829 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos I'm always learning every time I watch. Keep up the great work keeping the old vintage machines alive.
@samc5898
@samc5898 6 жыл бұрын
Super interested in this job, I can't wait to see the finished product! I hope you're doing alright and getting better. Cheers!
@apollorobb
@apollorobb 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Great G&E Shaper videos.Hope your doing well .
@joopterwijn
@joopterwijn 6 жыл бұрын
It a real treat, seeing the old puppy do it’s work!
@masonzidar6073
@masonzidar6073 6 жыл бұрын
Adam? I'm a bit new to this whole commenting on KZbin, but here goes. So recently, just yesterday in fact, I ran a lathe and turned some aluminum end caps for some bolts. I don't recall the maker of the lathe, but I do know it was my first time and I'm an aspiring machinist who's quite like you in ways that your father is a machinist just like mine. All else I have to add is that I look up to you, all of your content is very informative/entertaining, and that I hope some day that I'll be just as good as you. Uprising machinist, Mason
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds great Mason! Hope you enjoyed for your dabbles into the Machining world. 👍🏻
@masonzidar6073
@masonzidar6073 6 жыл бұрын
It's been a treat seeing you respond. I hope everything goes well for you too!
@ron827
@ron827 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you are getting some good experience with your shaper. Planning ahead with your video uploads while you are recovering was extremely considerate on your part and thanks much. I hope your recovery is on schedule and your smiling face will soon be seen on some new videos. Good luck, hang in there and you will be happy with the results.
@JRD77VET
@JRD77VET 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your "aha" moments when you learn or figure something out.
@OrenReuven
@OrenReuven 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam Something you'll love very much Many years ago, there was a beautiful picture at TIME KIFE of a similar SHAPING machine Which put on the processed material a dollar coin! Thus demonstrate the power of the machine, at work, without the coin falling!
@leebarnhart9725
@leebarnhart9725 6 жыл бұрын
Those old shapers and planers were so cool. Wonder if anyone ever made a CNC shaper? That would be something to see. That old girl you got ahold of looks like it's in sweet condition for its age. Really, when you think about it, it's kinda like a controlled tool crash. " I love the smell of burning cutting oil in the morning, it smells like victory, solder."
@tonywildschutz1646
@tonywildschutz1646 6 жыл бұрын
i was a machine builder for over 30 yrs and used a shaper a little where i worked the man that trained me made his matched set of 4 inch v blocks on a shaper and they were almost perfect ,within half a thousands,.
@SteveSummers
@SteveSummers 6 жыл бұрын
Liked both these videos Adam. That clevis truing is perfect for the shaper.
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect gravy jobs for the shaper
@theshed8802
@theshed8802 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone that owns and uses a shaper will tell you that there are some jobs in the manual machining world that you just can't beat them for. I love using mine and on flame cut surfaces i think that they are the best
@SeptrothFFXI
@SeptrothFFXI 6 жыл бұрын
I could watch that shaper go all day!
@rodeo11
@rodeo11 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could add an Abom79 men’s cologne to your swag sales......Eau de Cutting Oil! 😂
@MrJugsstein
@MrJugsstein 6 жыл бұрын
Rod Dahl Only truble is it only attracts other machinists
@blakewerner4368
@blakewerner4368 6 жыл бұрын
years ago before i was married i met a gal one night and the reason she said she was attracted to me was i had the wonderful smell of cutting oil. ymmv of course.
@mikeludwig134
@mikeludwig134 6 жыл бұрын
Too cool I completely understand why you take the effort to explain why your using your shaper. The critics live in their self indulged little world. It easier to knock someone but not show your stuff. The shaper still has a place in today's world. You have given a good example with tooling cost. One off jobs are not always suited for fast and furious You are a mentor for many and your video's will live as long as the net exists for future reference to those that need information on how to do. _____=$÷÷+++
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson 6 жыл бұрын
My college machining project with a shaper was to make a pair of supposedly 'identical' dice, 3" square. I loved working with the shaper - like an old, steady donkey: effortless power, with never a second's complaint. Unfortunately my dice didn't come out too identical, because one of 'em had seven sides...
@moebius2k103
@moebius2k103 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the infrared heat signature of the various contact points on the job and the tool. Even just some readings with a laser temperature probe would be cool.
@chrischtea
@chrischtea 6 жыл бұрын
most likely hot. you mean?
@davidjack9217
@davidjack9217 6 жыл бұрын
Love watching Adam work, so precise. I am also a subscriber from across the pond. Great channel.
@machiningbasics1729
@machiningbasics1729 6 жыл бұрын
The museum shop smells like belt dressing and cutting oil! Nothing quite beats that smell! Great video !!
@chksix
@chksix 6 жыл бұрын
I have no interest in ever doing this kind of work but I thoroughly enjoy your videos.
@PeterWMeek
@PeterWMeek 6 жыл бұрын
Amen as to the smell of sulfurated cutting oil. It takes me back to the 1940s and '50s being taken to the shop by my grandfather (who taught me to love machining). Of course, shops full of oil smoke are no longer tolerated, but we lucky few with home shops still get a chance for a whiff of that smell.
@nosferatu49426
@nosferatu49426 6 жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting to take temp readings on something that size before you start and throughout the job to see how much heat the block of steel retains. Love that the shaper is working good for you. 😀
@ypop417
@ypop417 6 жыл бұрын
Love the smell of Cutting oil in the morning LOL
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 6 жыл бұрын
That oil sure makes it looks Tons better Adam .. ENJOYED .. !
@n.christopherperry8941
@n.christopherperry8941 6 жыл бұрын
That machine looks perfect! It looks to be in excellent shape.
@佰得機工-傳統車銑床
@佰得機工-傳統車銑床 6 жыл бұрын
N. Christopher Perry 懶教啦!他根本就是胡來
@Tangobaldy
@Tangobaldy 6 жыл бұрын
This machine deserves a new chip bucket. Tangobaldy can smell the smoke.
@waynep343
@waynep343 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for adjusting the slide so it does not go behind the V shaped wicks exposing the ways to contamination. are you thinking about upgrading to a diamond hone or getting a flat diamond disc to mount next to a grinding wheel so you can easily diamond sharpen the big tools.. or mount a diamond lapping disc on something like an automotive hub and bearing assembly to allow you to spin it somehow without any run out. perhaps with a right angle gear motor driving thru the middle of the hub..
@davidkilkelly1520
@davidkilkelly1520 6 жыл бұрын
If you are concerned about the smoke and want to improve the ventilation around your machine, try using your fume extraction system to draw away the fumes. You could even get away with an extension tube so you don't need to move the machine. Alternatively, use a fan blowing out a doorway to create a vacuum in the shop to draw the fumes out and fresh air in. You might need to open or close some windows to get a suitable airflow path but you should have less wind noise around the microphone of the camera.
@friedrichuckhauff7046
@friedrichuckhauff7046 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I bet he hadn't thought of that!
@whitehoose
@whitehoose 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at the finish you can see the difference oil makes, and also the difference LOTS of oil made when you started bending your elbow ;) - still it seems to me the bulk of the oil is rolled up with the chip and thrown on the floor. The oil that looks to be doing the work is the stuff that cascades down from the uncut plane down the newly cut edge and gets caught in the backstroke of the bit and gets smeared up on the backstroke. Obviously a white water setup following the cutting edge is best but I wonder what happens if once you have a lip you concentrate making a pool of oil on the newly finished surface that should "wick" more of the oil into the interface of the cutting shear point. Possibly using the lower middle area of the stroke will get a good spread but I think it needs a bit of experimentation. It's sort of what seems to be happening once you got some serious amounts of oiling going on the heat should thin the oil which will then "follow" the cutting edge like a big pen but at the mo the blade is only spreading the spill from the waste. I can see it - just hope I'm saying it right. Another option would be to have a drip oiler fixed to the arm so oil drips onto and down the blade directly into the cut. Maybe over egging the job and I imagine it was tried and rejected 100 years ago - just shooting the breeze.
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe a coolmist unit would be most useful aimed from behind the tool at the leading edge of the cut? Spraying the air/coolant right up the tool relief angles puts it as close as possible to the cutting edge, and ensures there's something on the fresh cut metal for the backstroke.
@jackofalltrades8353
@jackofalltrades8353 6 жыл бұрын
When in trade school used to over oil the shaper project for PLENTY of smoke to hide the weed smell :)
@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper
@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam, You really like that machine.
@Panzax1
@Panzax1 6 жыл бұрын
The time saving when cutting it the long side vs the short side must come from the time not in-the-cut: It is the same distance cutting air before and after the cut on each stroke, but much fewer strokes to complete the cut. So less time cutting air. On top of that the tool probably lasts longer because of fewer times entering and leaving the cut. Especially here that you have got the flame-cut and mill-scale. Great video !
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
All good point, and all mentioned in the books.
@erikdevaney4781
@erikdevaney4781 6 жыл бұрын
@7:27 those chips are ridonkulous! yes now I c what u r talking about the chip welding its self onto the tool. its not falling off and the back stroke with the clapper knocking it off
@ArcAiN6
@ArcAiN6 6 жыл бұрын
As always, love the videos Adam, Hope everything is going well, and wish a speedy recovery.
@jrand2631
@jrand2631 6 жыл бұрын
I really like seeing the shaper working - it's kinda therapeutic. lol
@lodgecav490
@lodgecav490 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see the shaper get some action, it looks to be performing well after your efforts. I have just dusted off my old hand operated 'Robblak' shaper, it is very old but still works and has just one advantage over your G&E...I can hang it on the wall when I am done with it! Great work Adam, looking forward to more, and hope all is well with you & yours.
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 6 жыл бұрын
Back when your hand powered shaper was the bee's knees, who was buying them? Gunsmiths? Watchmakers? Millwrights?
@patricksullivan9951
@patricksullivan9951 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, while watching the last episode I was wondering about the part running true, nice catch. It's looking good.
@gregg4164
@gregg4164 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing like the smell of hot metal.
@TheRooster1122
@TheRooster1122 6 жыл бұрын
Man now this was really cool! Wow did that mill ever Hog off the steel very cool!! Waiting for the next episode! 👍🏼👍🏼
@gibbsey9579
@gibbsey9579 6 жыл бұрын
Send me some of those chips Adam...I reckon I could put 'em in my little lathe and make something.
@sliderinc1
@sliderinc1 4 жыл бұрын
Defiantly one of my favorite machines.
@glennfelpel9785
@glennfelpel9785 6 жыл бұрын
I still really enjoy the shaper work, Thank you
@erikdevaney4781
@erikdevaney4781 6 жыл бұрын
hey Adam, just want you to know when I discovered youtube.com you were my first subscription. I have always love the manual machinist art verses the cad/cam cnc style. I would love to know someone like you to just let me help in a shop or a business just to learn what I have watched you do. I'm sure someone in my community has a mill and/or lathe that's prob. sitting around getting dusty so I'm gonna get on craigslist and try to find someone. THANX FOR ALL YOU DO MAN AND YES I GOT YOUR SHIRTS TOO
@xl000
@xl000 6 жыл бұрын
a bromance just started..
@jerrycoleman2610
@jerrycoleman2610 6 жыл бұрын
Adam, Beautiful piece of work thanks for sharing your video.!.!.!.
@ericrichards5862
@ericrichards5862 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, The motion of that shaper is a lot like my hydraulic surface grinder.
@jmcenterprises9591
@jmcenterprises9591 6 жыл бұрын
Good vid, I like the smell of cutting oil too.
@mikecabe6127
@mikecabe6127 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Adam!!!!
@southern207hobbies
@southern207hobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Watching the 1st part reminds me of how a steam locomotive cross head is shaped ps abom79 check out what union Pacific railroad is restoring for next years big 250 a up 4-8-8-4 big boy its truly abom size
@TagMan0131
@TagMan0131 6 жыл бұрын
I bet big chips like that would make some beautiful damascus.
@waynep343
@waynep343 6 жыл бұрын
just had a thought.. next time a Large bore cylinder comes thru.. that is going to scrap after duplication.. i would think that lobbing off a 2 or 3 foot section of rod and cylinder might make an interesting build for your shop. you never know when you are going to need.. 50 or more tons of abom custom port a power ram cylinder to knock things loose..
@tutekohe1361
@tutekohe1361 6 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of machine oil in the morning. Smells like... victory!
@loczaczix
@loczaczix 5 жыл бұрын
Do you sell the chips form a shaper?
@pacokelly5536
@pacokelly5536 6 жыл бұрын
I have learned a great deal from the way you explain what you are doing as you are doing it thank yo
@bigbird2100
@bigbird2100 6 жыл бұрын
Some shaping guys make their own cutting fluid compound great vid
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, Schedule Abom Chips, Finest Kind!
@jmew1922
@jmew1922 6 жыл бұрын
altering your rake angle helps with finish on a shaper tho it depends on the steel you are using, some tool steels need no rake at all. I grew up with the smell, its in my blood
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
It’s the learning process of what works best that I’m going through. 👍🏻
@mikemaxwell3005
@mikemaxwell3005 6 жыл бұрын
Cutting oil smoke is the smell of money too lol.
@gentharris
@gentharris 6 жыл бұрын
Why are you using the parallels? Seems you would have a better grip pm the part without them?
@keithhansen3963
@keithhansen3963 6 жыл бұрын
Adam, what about applying your Noga mist to the cutting tip. Wonder if it could/would help?
@lourias
@lourias 5 жыл бұрын
I love the curls of those chips! It would be cool if some artist/hobbyist would create something nifty with those larger chips.
@Bowtie41
@Bowtie41 5 жыл бұрын
like the macaroni pictures from camp,lol....
@Adrianyoutubing
@Adrianyoutubing 5 жыл бұрын
Mail armour?
@bhartwigutube
@bhartwigutube 6 жыл бұрын
What do you think about using a spray bottle with soluble oil to prevent chip welding and add in some cooling for the HSS bit Adam?
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer the oil method myself
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 6 жыл бұрын
i wonder if a solid lubricant would work well on a shaper. my idea is just rubbing paraffin wax on the work piece or melting candlewax on it. the wax will melt as it contacts the hot cutter and/or chip, but wax is more thermally stable than most oils and I bet it won't smoke.
@N1RKW
@N1RKW 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed about the smell of cutting oil.
@SkyHeroII
@SkyHeroII 3 жыл бұрын
The chips produced by the shaper in this video series probably have more mass than my semi-chinese mini lathe.
@pjmiller5338
@pjmiller5338 6 жыл бұрын
Got to keep that traditional smell
@boaterbil
@boaterbil 6 жыл бұрын
Hope all is well with you Adam
@lindenhoch8396
@lindenhoch8396 Жыл бұрын
I've seen other, smaller, shaping machines where the clapper lifts up by itself, not dragging itself over the work. What's to say about the difference, is it simply a design choice or perhaps a technical matter.
@Rhin0Neil
@Rhin0Neil 6 жыл бұрын
Is there an insert for the shaper like the ones you use in the lathe or would they break?
@anthonysarantis7650
@anthonysarantis7650 6 жыл бұрын
No they dont I use them all the time.Also I use allmost the lathe toolholders
@wires2115
@wires2115 5 жыл бұрын
wow, takes me back 30 odd years this machine, finish chisel +_ 1/2 round nose steep angle, with .2mm clearance on drag end, makes for a strong tool that lasts with acceptable finish, oh edit, rough cut used to be like a ruff cut tool for lathe, but with less free angles, hopes it help
@finnsailing69
@finnsailing69 6 жыл бұрын
you should make a collaboration with slo-mo guys about shaper and cutting with it :) it would be nice too 500 000frames/second shots when the shaper is making chips
@plnmech
@plnmech 6 жыл бұрын
Could you use flood or mist cooling?
@martineastburn3679
@martineastburn3679 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of the ice cold air guns that use an air hose to make hot and cold and you blow cold on the lathe / shaper to cool the tool and work.
@pilgrimm23
@pilgrimm23 6 жыл бұрын
Watching that shaper is beauty
@Gkuljian
@Gkuljian 6 жыл бұрын
I like old school. Just got a 3 inch shell endmill for a 1 1/4" arbor in the mail today.
@davidrichards5594
@davidrichards5594 6 жыл бұрын
Adam: You got it working great, good demo....Dave
@gcflower99
@gcflower99 2 жыл бұрын
Great old school methods and explanation. And just like Duvall loves "the smell of napalm in the morning", you love that cutting oil smell. Beautiful view of the day out over that great big driveway you poured!
@johnbonner922
@johnbonner922 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work Adam! Would love to see work like this in person here in the DFW area. As if someone is still doing this other than a few. :o)
@tribsat100
@tribsat100 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam hope youre doin well big man, kindest regards from across the pond. Stuart
@blbrookscom
@blbrookscom 6 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts about using something like the noga mini cool. Or perhaps a drip feed oil system to the tool head for oiling and cooling?
@Abom79
@Abom79 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had thoughts of both systems.
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 6 жыл бұрын
Just put in a chimney to share the aroma of manly work with the neighborhood. Might inspire them!
@Elwould23
@Elwould23 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the more liberal and appropriate use of cutting oil. The way you were using it was ineffective. Life is a journey and we learn best by making mistakes. Love seeing you play with your new toy, becoming more comfortable and proficient with it.
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