SNS 220: Shaping 28" Parallel Bars

Two pieces of 1" flame cut steel that I'm going to clean up in the shaper for a friend who wants to use them as parallels on his work bench. This is a great job for the shaper.
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[@ThisOldTony]

28" shaper cut blows my mind. those two "drops" from your work could be enough raw stock to tide me over for a year! grinder slo-mo was sick. great vid!

[@bekar_au]

The start of this video made me think of your video style TOT.. :) No head, just hands!

[@Abom79]

Thanks Tony! You should see all the heavy iron at work that gets tossed in the scrap bin.

[@dizzolve]

I love those shots where you mount the cam to the ram tool post

[@remcovanvliet3018]

The sheer brute force of that thing man.... Cutting that steel like it's a block of cheese... How something so brutally strong can be so precise keeps amazing me

[@tzxazrael]

speaking of "block of cheese"... lol those chips at 33:12 ... i just keep thinking "raclette cheese" (the fancy restaurant thing, where they bring half a wheel of cheese, torch the side, and then just scrape the hot melted cheese off onto your food)... that tool was definitely not cutting.. it was just squeezing those "chips" off lol.

[@kenhutchens513]

I'm glad you are doing so good and healing up and able to still edit and produce videos and it was super smart to keep some things is reserve. I can't wait till you are healed up fully and back to 100%. Best wishes Ken.

[@weird1600]

it is amazingly relaxing watching this machine.

[@richardj163]

I’m really enjoying your videos. It’s always a pleasure to look over the shoulder of a journeyman of another trade. Thank you for the time you put into this.

[@thegreatga]

I'm glad you purchased the shaper and took us for this wonderful ride. Most channels don't change much, or don't develop. This channel and your style has continued to improve and develop. So glad to see all this awesome work.

[@Abom79]

thegreatga Thank you!

[@colin1344]

The camera placement on the cutting head was great. Could watch that all day, keep up the quality work..

[@cgmiller82]

FYI, I absolutely love watching you set the piece and square it up. I know it's the tedious part for you, and you may think it's boring to watch, but that is where the magic is... anyone can turn a machine on... having the piece in the right place and setup perfect is where the skill is. Keep up the great work!!!

[@michaelpatrick6950]

As a chemical engineer who grew up working on a farm, I still love to see people doing precision work. Doesn't matter whether it's machining, pipe fitting, sheet metal or fabrication, if you have some of these skills, you can figure out how to do anything. I channeled my love of these things into woodworking. I'm a hybrid guy, power and hand tools, and not into fussy little bits. I try to watch these machinists do their magic as much as I can because I learn new setups and measurement techniques.

[@nicke1903]

Ahhh same thing,I've never been around a Machine like that,I've seen a few old Bridgeports but no machining experience what so ever but it's cool to watch

[@joshrobinson856]

Used a shaper in high school shop class to make a billet aluminum cribbage board. Must have been the first in a long time to use that shaper. All the grease was dried hard. Took me two days of servicing the machine to be able to use it. Could have easily done the operation on a mill but I just wanted to use the shaper. Took second in a state wide competition. 1st place was a grandfather clock made from brass and aluminum. He definitely earned his win.

[@danwesterberg3956]

I've been a machinist for over 30 years and never seen a shaper making chips before , there arent that many left out there, and most of those haven't worked in years......thanks

[@billqqq]

I learned to use a shaper in High School shop - a Steptoe-Western beast... 1974 or so. Fed my family as a machinist with what I learned there. Great work, and a lost art these days. Keep it alive!

[@RickRose]

Some of the best shaper footage I've seen--Really gives an appreciation for the capabilities of those old beasts. Thanks!

[@hootinouts]

Nice work Abom79. The last time I used a shaper was way back in 1979. The shaper was always one of my favorite machines and I always loved when I got the chance to use it. The shop I worked in had two shapers. One was a Steptoe and the other was a Gould & Eberhardt. The Gould & Eberhardt was customized with a manual transmission out of a truck for changing the speeds. It was a real novelty. I really miss working on machines like that but I believe that most shops have scrapped them. It so great to see a machinist such as yourself keeping his piece of history alive.

[@andrewterry8092]

Adam, I love the shaper videos, nice to see you put that old machine to work. I hope you are by now feeling better and recovering well.

[@scottbrown8142]

Enjoying my morning off with a cup of coffee and your videos, has the same feel as if you were just hanging out at you buddies house learning stuff.

[@doesntmatter3068]

I used to run several shapers @ a time back in the mid 80's. Hold +.002 -.000 cutting keyways. They did the job great. Nice looking machine ya got there. I actually miss those old machines! Wish I had a quarter for every keyway I cut. Thanks 4 sharing!

[@MrAlexthecrazy]

man... that is the most satisfying and relaxing machine ive ever seen

[@MaturePatriot]

Haven't run a large Shaper since 1970 HS Machine Shop Class. I like when you can take metal destined for recycle, and make a usable tool. So satisfying to watch that Big Dog eat. Hope your recover y is going well. Hope to see you up and around soon. Got you on my prayer list.

[@Abom79]

Thank you!

[@philbrennan3342]

Shaper machine is hypnotizing - could watch it cutting & improving surfaces all day - appears to be the perfect tool for the job.

[@davidangelico6951]

I have a small Logan shaper that I rebuilt and am learning to use primarily to develop my skill and to experience what the machinists before me had the skills to operate. It's a damn shame so many of these older machines of all sizes were scrapped when vertical mills proliferated industry. I learn from every video you publish. Your camera work is also exceptional.

[@davemanley8700]

Back in the 80's I ran a broach with a 6 foot cutter for doing internal key ways, two passes for a half by three eights key way, they don't make machines like they use to.

[@oldodger]

First time I see a shaper for metal ! Your videos bring me back to shop class 50 years ago ! Ended up an automobile / truck mechanic. I always liked "machine shop" in school !

[@anthonygonzales1222]

i'm 79and backwhen I was an apprentice machinist in the ca n making industry one of the first machines I used was a shaper.i never ran into one again. we used key stock to practice sharpening different toolbits. one time I needed a tool bit in ahurry and picked up apiece of practice key stock...….wow. I enjoy watching you machine.brings back happy memories. when machinists weremachinists not operators. thank you. gonzo

[@mythai9593]

Yeah, I started my apprenticeship in 1981 and was taught how to use a shaper in the training school but have never seen one in a workshop. Brings back good memories.

[@victoryfirst2878]

So nice to see someone use a shaper. A machine noted to produce really accurate cuts. I used to run a Cincinnati planer shaper. With a sixty foot table. Bet you never operated a machine like that fella. Keep up the great work too.

[@scumbag373]

Hi Adam I've watched your videos for a while now and I have to say that shaper is just poetry in motion it is awesome. Well done and good luck with your surgery

[@luketalkin5000]

There aren't that many machines left that can cut to that accuracy. Excellent job restoring the G&E, thank you for keeping the art or machining alive.

[@dougslaughter8393]

I appreciate you sharing your screwups. Allows me to learn at your mistakes instead of mine all the time. Thanks for being transparent.

[@johnnyciantar]

That's a beautiful shaper machine. I'm getting an old 10.5inch Douglas shaper in a few weeks time, I can't wait!

[@thepotterer3726]

Knowing the amount of work that you put in to get that shaper into the condition it is in, you must get a real sense of satisfaction with every chip that it throws.

[@rolans.2073]

Shaper cam, Indicator cam, grinder slo-mo! Great job on the parallels as well as the camera work there.

[@larrymoody9183]

the 0.0005" on the ends were from being unsupported on the ends. Ran machines like that for years (27 years machinist and tool and die maker). Great video great to see old iron still getting it done!

[@radicaicares]

That shaper is so satisfying to watch and I'm not even a machinist.

[@chieft3357]

That shaper seams to be working just fine after all the repair work you did to bring it back to life. I watched the video where you did the repairs. That was great to watch as well. I like it!

[@DavidVerch]

Watched this today and just want to say I and I think many others look to you as an expert. Very cool to see someone so many look up to be confident to admit that he is still learning and has more to learn. Thank you!

[@criqdekuyper9259]

I’m sure everyone here really appreciates the effort that goes into the making of these videos. I know I do. Keep up the great work!

[@lb10445]

That shaper gets kind of hypnotic to watch.

[@NutjobGTO]

The sound, even. It nearly sang me to sleep.

[@fluffyfloof9267]

That's a satisfying crunching noise …just plowing the stock away.

[@dangerdave616]

One of the most important tools a machinist can have is their hearing, the sounds of a decent cut and well running machine are a sign of a job going well.

[@Dr_Xyzt]

The shaper is such a sweet machine. It's like a carpenter with a hand-plane, except super-human.

[@michaelwhinnery164]

I'm not a Machinist, will never be a Machinist. I have no interest in in ever becoming a Machinist.... But I love this chanel. And these videos

[@craigdavies4682]

Keeping the old ways alive Adam. You sir are rapidly becoming a living, breathing, walking history lesson for any would be engineer. Non of that CNC crap here.

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

Amazing the amount of materials that machine can remove in a pass. Great content 👍

[@tomweaver1850]

I never thought I’d hear steel referred to as ‘gummy’! These videos offer a pure, true look into the mind, skills and expertise of an exacting craftsman. I think that’s what appeals to me most.

[@DeadlinePhil]

I remember when I was starting as machinist I had a really hard time getting my head around the concept that steel is considered a soft material

[@hootinouts]

Believe it or not, this is not an uncommon expression among us machinists. Certain types of steel do not cut well. It has to do with their chemistry. I hated machining type 304 stainless. It machines like crap.

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

@@hootinouts also ... low-carbon steels are difficult to machine due to "gumminess" .. 🙄😒

[@vilsiran]

When you see a shaper removing one, two ,three inches of metal ( you had better have ear defenders on) you can really appreciate theses truly remarkable machines

[@edstuff1198]

I hope your recovery is going well. That was an excellent video, it was mesmerizing to watch that old shaper rip chunks of metal off of the parallels. I don't think you were close to the limits, the G&E didn't even break a sweat on that job. It is a testament to the people that deigned and built those heavy machines back in the day. Just a pencils and a drafting table, analog measuring tools and old fashioned machining, no CAD-CAM and CNC. If folks can't appreciate the beauty in that kind of work, on that kind of machine, then they need to go find some other porn.

[@robbenge9914]

Great to spend some time with you in the shop Adam ,those ride along shots were fantastic, something you would never experience usually. Thank you.

[@StevenAndrews]

Definitely a fan of the shaper cam

[@JamesSmith-lz1xu]

like the show ..i used to drive for a scrap merchant when nearly all were changing to cnc the amount of lathes millers shapers saws everything you could think of went for scrap .i had a fantastic workshop ! ! . all bought for scrap prices! ! . ,,even had a solar furnace.. ! those were the days ! carry on with the good work{.. using good but old machines that were built to last..}

[@Demonlord468]

15 almost 16 years as a fabricator and this is the first time i ever even heard of this machine let alone ever seen one.. Good shit.

[@Tsamokie]

You give away your youth. I had one in the shop where I worked in 1987, although I hardly used it.

[@everythingquads]

I've been in engineering for 30 years, and never come across this method of machining. Love to see the old skills in hand ground tools. Tool grinding is a dying art with modern carbide inserts.

[@lomsomesGarage]

I enjoy watching the shaper run hope you're doing well and a great viedo Happy Fourth

[@wk-nu3ri]

Hope your recovery doing good , thx for vid.

[@dougbush4170]

wk I second that.

[@ricko5123]

Shapers rule! Of course today with all the CNC Plasma and water jets out there they make cutting thick steel pretty damn accurate and fast. I remember my 1st plasmacam system when I bought it like 22 years I made so.much money off it and I was the only gig in town. Today, as I'm retired but still enjoy the old manual machines since I don't need to hurry out a job or production machining. I'll sit next to that shaper all damn day today...Great Vids and memories Adam....

[@victoryfirst2878]

Adam, I worked in a machine shop most of my life. This is what was always stated to me over and over again, "You can not check enough whether the bolts are tight for safety". Never forget this important fact. Good day too.

[@PetesNikon]

Nice camera angles, thank you. Those ride-along-with-the-tool were special.

[@MrBubbadon]

I have never seen a machine like that. Mesmerizing

[@thegoodearth7]

I *really* appreciate your videos. I came across your channel about two weeks ago and almost every time I have spare time to learn something on KZbin, I invariably end up watching one or more of your videos. The quality of the work you do in machining and fabrication is equaled only by the attention of detail you put into the video. How anyone could possibly hit a thumbs down on any of your videos is rather strange. I would say I was surprised, except that fallen human nature (jealousy, a sense of self-importance, insecurity [e.g., pride]) has been one thing that remains unchanged. Again, thank you for giving us a glimpse of such excellent work!

[@brianpanco8325]

that is the way they made both the breach and the breach bock for all the battleships of the us navy each was a one off nothing was interchangeable great work your granddad is happy

[@ArcAiN6]

As usual, great quality video, content, and very educational.. Enjoyable as always Adam, get well soon man.

[@davevogel9847]

Hiya Adam. I love watching that big shaper run! when you show it, show full cuts.. we will enjoy watching the whole thing. I have a smaller shaper (12" Whipp with 14" max cut" and I love running that as well. On your shear tool increase the shear/helix angle even more. Try running a 30 degree angle from parallel to ram travel. More shear angle gives me the finest finish I can get. Of course, with that shear the least stepover feed is needed for the finest finish, along with a light finish cut depth. Thanks again for the great videos!

[@hakont.4960]

It's actually quite soothing to watch the shaper work, it's such a gentle machine compared to a high speed CNC router.

[@Michael2112]

Amongst many other things, the videogrophy was amazing.

[@robertburns2415]

I ran a shaper for 2 years exclusively and I learned negative rake tools were hard on the machine. They push the clapper box against the hing pin not against the back of the ram. Notice the chips how they are welded together. The bouncing of the tool can be clearly seen in the results of the first finish. As soon as you changed to a positive rake all that went away. Secondly hot roll loves surface feet. The faster the better, I've found. So get a piece of hot roll and increase the surface feet per minute at least 2-3 times using the very same tooling. I think you'll find surface finish much improved.

[@notsofresh8563]

On a 24 " stroke, at triple the speed he is going to need to bolt that machine down. While playing around in an earlier video, he got that g&e hopping pretty good. It moved noticeably across the floor with every stroke.

[@Abom79]

Robert Burns I have tested some of the higher stroke speeds and especially at those Kong’s stokes I do not like the way that ram hammers back and forth. The higher surface speed would help but I don’t want to push it that hard. I’m learning that the positive rake tools are working better for low carbon steel.

[@jerrycoleman2610]

Adam, as always an Absolutely Awesome video enjoyed all of it thanks for sharing this video have a great day.!.!.!.

[@AlwaysSunnyintheShop]

Nice work and filming, as usual Adam. Glad to see this finally- you teased a while back. ---Aaron

[@Gary.7920]

Adam, Hope your recovery is going well. All the best to you and Abby. Gary 75-Year-Old Home-Shop-Machinist in Northwest Arkansas

[@ront8270]

Man the last time I used a shaper was when I was working on the Stanley tape rule die in 1985

[@sethbracken]

Slo-mo spark cam was awesome.

[@johndonlan5956]

Adam, you might be able to improve the finish on the cut if you ground a small radius on the corner of the cutter..... Rather than have a sharp point. Also I think you mentioned at this material is HRS. Hot rolled steel, in my experience, is a very gummy material...... It's hard to get a good shiney finish on it.

[@davidmotoman4956]

Iam amazed at how the Shaper Just tears off metal with such precision. Its Orsome Thanks again for your videos Adam

[@timothyduzenski1386]

When i was an apprentice i ran a shaper. Great machine. It really connects you with all the machinist that went before. We used shapers for hogging out castings. You can take some big cuts. I just love shapers.

[@anthonyvancampen6729]

6:00 Early 4th of July fireworks - looking at it with the right squint and you can see the number 4.

[@jimmydiresta]

Dam that’s satisfying to watch. I’d love to hear that monster tear up steel all day

[@jonahbrame7874]

I had seen an old shaper sitting in the back of my HS machine shop and I could not figure how it worked. It makes total sense now. Hopefully We can get that thing running one day just for the hell of it.

[@Marcywm42]

This really shows off the shaper. I have enjoyed every episode. Thanks Adam.

[@Dug6666666]

I would have thought I would have something better to do than watch someone else's machine outside work hours, but na. It hit 46.3c here in Adelaide that's 115 f , (one of our machines cooked a spindle) so I happy now to sit back with a cold drink and watch someone else working. :)

[@roleic7246]

Mr. Pete made at least one video testing a shear tool for the lathe on different materials. Among them mild steel which did not give good results neither. In another video, I think, he tested the tool on lead flywheels for model steam engines. That worked surprisingly well on this super gummy material.

[@roleic7246]

if Adam does not find them in reasonable time how could the rest of us? If you try dozens of geometries, cutting materials and tuen dozens of bars to chips probably you will finally find your speeds and feeds. But is that practical to do at home?

[@DGA2000]

Seeing that shaper in action is a thing of beauty.

[@swarfrat311]

Adam, Thanks for the great video! For me, there's something hypnotic about watching your shaper run. I could watch it for hours. Thanks again! Hope your recovery is going well! Have a good one! Dave

[@johnthompson6656]

That machine harkens back to the movies of steam ship engines starting up. Impressive.

[@BiddieTube]

At 8:40 The night man left them loose ;)

[@andrewallen2999]

I f'n love this channel. It's akin to these ASMR videos that my daughters are all aflutter about. I put it on in the background and it makes my own shoptime that much better. Thanks Abom79.

[@georgianbents]

Always loved the shaper. Such a beast of a machine.

[@JohnJaggerJack]

I'd really love to see the inner working of this machine. Great video, learned something new today.

[@immasurvivor]

Jason of Fireball Tool has a video where he shows the inside of his shaper. Just search Fireball Tool shaper and it should pop up.

[@mikeykany1973]

Nice work and great to see old machines being used. The deviation when you ran the clock over it on the surface table may have been caused by the stock faces not being parallel. Thus transferring that error to the machined faces. I remember these old shapers when I first started engineering college during 1989 They were slow but at the time more accurate for squareness and parallelism than a milling machine.

[@mikebarton3218]

Adam, great video.. Thanks. I hope you are well. Best regards. Mike

[@fordguy8792]

Absolutely amazing to watch a tool actually being made. Art, pure and simple and a skill I wish I had a tiny bit of.

[@batmatt4686]

I have no clue why this was in my recommended but this is super cool

[@keithwelton]

Flame cut surfaces produce a hard layer that wears HSS tools heavily just as the surface of hot rolled steel does.

[@JesusvonNazaret]

I really enjoy these shaper videos. It's a great machine.

[@PeterWMeek]

I think that of all the angles, I like the ride-the-ram shots best. That's some mighty nice shapin'.

[@hawkman302]

That is an awesome piece of machinery.

[@carlhooker6442]

so who watches 30 some minutes of a shaper cutting chips, over and over and over. 355,136 plus one more looks like to me. I love watching this tool, don't ask me why

[@steam1100dan]

I love your work! It’s great to see old machines still doing the business. Both informative and great film work👍

[@pentachronic]

Adam, love your videos and they are very educational. What’s great is that you commented that you are learning too which shows how good you are. You’re always willing to accept your deficiencies and improve upon them. I’d be interested if you could tell us how you setup the shaper (ways, levelling, maintenance) as well as introduce us to it workings since a lot of us have never seen a machine like this and it’s hella cool. Would also be interested in how you setup the tools and why you choose certain profiles/angles etc. Thanks for sharing.

[@ryewhiskeyblues]

I remember when I was first learning the trade, as I was training on a shaper, my boss told me, "You can make anything on a shaper... except money."

[@MicrophonicFool]

It would be obvious to the other machinists in here, but would be very interested in a video some day around how you clean up from heavy lathe or milling jobs and what you do at the home shop with all the chips... Also curious about how the coolant is collected and/or recycled.

[@Skydmig]

I think this could make a great video (series). It would be educational too.

[@Abom79]

Honestly I just clean up as I work, brushing the chips off into a chip pan after each cutting session and dumping them in the trash can. Sometimes I unload the lathes and take that can to work and dump into the metal recycling container. I’ll keep it in mind for future video to share.

[@MicrophonicFool]

Most of the home machine shops I have witnessed do not appear to clean up much at all, so there was never any point asking them about it. (These are garage/home hobbyists who don't make their living at it)

[@williamsquires3070]

MicrophonicFool - Yes, me too. 😎

[@Skydmig]

I guess I didn't read the comment from MicrophonicFool correctly. What I meant was, that it would be great to see heavy machine restoration/checkup - Like what to look for in getting a second hand lathe and how to restore it. Might be too offtopic for your channel (being mostly about working with the equipment), but assuming that most people who watch these videos aren't professionals, a lot of people would be interested in something like this (getting started as a hobbyist etc., equipment to get etc.).

[@johnarrington6292]

That .00005 over 28" on the second parallel is confirmation that you did a killer job on the overhaul. Hope you found some good stuff to binge watch as you recover!!

[@MrCrystalcranium]

That machine is an absolute beast. What a fantastic piece of old school machinery! It's the George Foreman of the shaping world!! Despite making "knarley" chips that first hogging cut was so impressive.