About RENDER ENGINES

[@AndreyLebrov]

Gentlemen, if you're asking about particular render engine, I think you missed the point of the video. Don't be rude to each other in the first place :) We are a brotherhood, haha :D I used Octane and Vray as two examples to explain the differences that are there in general between all the engines. I could as well name sample 1 - A and sample 2 - B. I didn't dive into details with particular engines and particular features they have. Vray for instance can be unbiased, Octane removes a lot of limits in it's V4 release, Redshift is an awesomeness for big productions, Arnold, Renderman, Cycles, EEVEE, iray, Corona, Mental Ray, C4D Physical, Mantra, Maxwell, etc etc etc. There are a lot of these comparisons which conceptually isn't a clever thing to do. FIND THE MOST CONVENIENT ENGINE FOR YOU (Workflow-wise) AND MASTER IT. I promise, it will be as powerful as the bloody Thor, as long as you're giving it your best treatment. Love you

[@Exodus199]

Hi Men, Can You try Blenders Eevee Render Engine or Cycles?

[@donaldclark5804]

Cycles is the best option between the 2 due to it being a path racing engine sure its slower but u need realism in a scene Eevee is more like unreal engine fast but not physically correct. @@Exodus199

[@bluekiwiconsuming4568]

@@Exodus199 what did he say about PARTICULAR RENDERENGINES?

[@alexanderconferno9467]

Donald Clark eevee uses pbr materials to render, why it is not physically correct in this case?

[@seer2203]

@@alexanderconferno9467 Horrible necro here, but Cycles raytraces light while EEVEE relies on more standard raster techniques. For example, in Cycles you can render a scene where an object is behind a wall but visible in a reflection. EEVEE cannot do this, as it only has screenspace reflections that depend on the reflected object being directly visible to the camera.

[@0815Snickersboy]

My PC laughed at me when I watched this. I think I'll go with eevee

[@pstw4890]

lol me too

[@alexandrianautocruiser8024]

Eevee is a beast, it gives us the chance to create something with actually really really good outcomes without needing to pay hundreds of dollars just to render with Octane or Cycles or whatever.. Eevee is a beast. Check out these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIS8ep-AZ7iDa7M kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWnEY4d4htFqjqc Just learn the basics of lighting and the technicalities related to Eevee and you will create spectacular stuff.

[@aidenfoxx5828]

If you are willing to try it. There are 2 render engines you can get for free for Blender. Those 2 being: LuxCore and Octane render. Yes. You can get octane for free for blender.

[@oliverdropcotutorials8127]

@@aidenfoxx5828 hello Cycles

[@iGameOvertv]

Octane has literally revolutionized my rendering in Cinema 4D. I used to render Physical and my time got cut from 20 minutes per frame to 30-40 seconds per frame.

[@Gromic2k]

...and 5 Cinema crashes

[@BrentLeBlancCG]

Andrey, I couldn't agree more. The artist is the key, not the tools. Great insights here, take note.

[@saisathya6274]

Man You're clarity and point in your talk makes me watch more of your videos, the better part is am learning a lot from you,Thumbs Up man!!! Keep sharing your experiences

[@marvluebke]

I'm glad I started with Vray, learned a lot. It's like using a camera in manual mode.. kind of. Don't stop making these! :)

[@AndreyLebrov]

Exactly! Thank you :)

[@aryaman3083]

Can you teach me how to use vray in c4d

[@yanis_s500]

Awesome! Finally somebody clears things out. People cry all the time about this topic, when actually the quality of work itself is the most important. Thank you!

[@Rockyhalder1]

Today I created a cube in c4d.

[@tony6795]

Today, I am that cube you created all grown up. Thank you, Papa Rocky!

[@sergeyfilin5204]

Nice work! Keep going!)))

[@whoisadeeb]

Please upload a tutorial about it. will help.

[@pavo4461]

@@tony6795 nice work! keep growing!)))

[@fouedbendaya5431]

Blender give you a cube for free xith default scene

[@chanruzzi]

It's rare to see impartiality shown with such confidence here on YT (or anywhere else). Less yet on such a polemic topic. You give us the impression of liking Octane Better from the beginning of your channel but still you were able to compare engines with a plain-simple-face impartiality. Congratulations, your channel is getting better every time I come back to check on it. Keep it up bro!

[@juanserranos2006]

Every one of your videos are really an amazing amount of information for users at all the levels. And also, a lot of common sense. There still people in the industry who don't understand the importance of the physics at the moment of setting lights in a scene. And some of these colleagues think that the render engine will magically in one click make everything look realistic. Kudos for these video sir.

[@LFPAnimations]

Once again a fantastic video about a subject that is rarely covered in simple terms (usually long explanations of technical info). I personally use Redshift which I knew was a biased renderer but didn't really understand what that meant. Now I do so thanks!

[@OviGomy]

I'm using my own render engine(DirectX11 shaders hlsl and c++) and blender engine. It depends on what task I have to do and which engine leads fast to the best results. Great video.

[@locinolacolino1302]

Incredibly based, nice work.

[@Gireshahid33]

Agree with you, octane some so much time!! And it's really depends on you which render engine best for you!

[@user-fm1do5cz8t]

Your vids are on point and concise. You do really know the importance of a man's time. I love your vids.

[@tomhanhart5921]

Great presentation and answer on a question that is often asked by my students. Will add this channel in my recommended ressources 👍

[@SayedYasin]

You are such a chill dude and seems to know what you are talking about...so I subbed🙂👍

[@babysteps1]

I love Octane but I still do jam the physical renderer on occasion, which is exactly your point - the engine doesn't matter. That was a nice touch at the end - Renders done in Physical...

[@miguels008]

Thanks for the talk. My conclusion of this is: Try differents render programs, improve your work flow and use what you are more confortable

[@SnakebiteCortez]

You rock, brother. I'm about to dive into environments for a movie. And we're about to invest in a new rig and we've been talking render engines. You bring up important things to consider that I wasn't considering. Although I've worked in the business for 26 years I've only been working with 3D, Cinema 4D for 8 months. So your videos have been very very helpful. Gratitude. I'm hoping the rig we get will compensate for slower render times, we will be doing big city shots...pretty details concepts we're building...mixing kit bashing with original pieces on the sci fi flavor. So your point concerns me very much...however the convenience factor is big for me..I can do technical, but generally I'm a cave man who just wants to paint on the wall. hmmmm. so glad I accidentally came across this one. Thanks again.

[@AWViz]

Just came upon your channel and I genuinely enjoyed your outlook on this topic. I am an archviz illustrator and one thing that caught my attention were the times that you talked about vray exposing all the backend settings and octane doing it for you...I use a variety of software and it has always made me wonder why vray for sketchup is built to be much more accessible with everything from presets to just a cleaner more user friendly interface (kind of like how you are explaining octane), but vray for max still seems like they want it to be solely for hardcore veterans. I love vray for max, but being in the archviz world, I’ve found myself saving so much time just staying in sketchup, even for very large complex scenes. Taking it a bit further, you have other software like lumion that are really disrupting things and making archviz that much more accessible and faster to use leaving much more time for actual design and post production. Just made me think of this watching your video...keep up the great work my friend! +1subscriber!

[@DanijelTeofilovic]

Thanks bro! I love your energy! First time viewer... See you in the next one ;)

[@pixelasm]

I would also factor in popularity of that engine in a particular field (VFX, architecture, motion graphics etc) and software (#Max, #Maya, #C4D), like #Octane seems more popular in C4D motiongraphics whilst VRAY in 3ds Max Architecture also because the dev for the C4D Octane plugin is super fast and responsive.

[@ChenYuanxiLeon]

Well explained! The effort to setup the scene and time spent to trail & error should be considered as part of the rendering speed. You made a good point!

[@Mac_Daffy]

Out of core geometry is coming with Octane 4 this year. Experimental build is already out, rendering ludicrous complex scenes on GPUs. 👍

[@jeanderbar]

Yep. In one early Octane 4 test, OOC geometry scaled to 8x Volta GPUs + 150GB of scene geometry all in CPU RAM. Find out more: www.reddit.com/r/RenderToken/comments/85sa6t/otoy_just_announced_octane_4_heavy_with_ai/

[@MachineElf1111]

Thanks man, I love the way you make this voodoo make sense

[@RD-kw5op]

You should be a teacher! Best explanation video I've seen so far and... also always checking Vray, Redshift, Octane, Arnold and Corona, even Iray as GPU engine at some point was a potencial hehe. Nice to see that someone can explain all stuff behind composing like you. The main course is the time! The rest is to test it yourself to see that the truth came from more expirienced guys like yourself.

[@infotreetv1379]

Hi there thanks , please make a video , why you have chosen cinema 4d , compare it with 3ds max and architectural as well , and what things are easy in cinema 4d compare to 3ds max

[@efiritamaradeinyefa1510]

Thanks for the video sir I have lots of stuffs to learn I'm learning 3d animation and visual effects and just started

[@maxi.designs]

I just go with Cycles Render xD

[@somerandomguy1373]

And you think cycles is a joke :/

[@fvs666]

octane is faster

[@jasonfanclub4267]

Cycles is good

[@jantoniolmartinez728]

I love your intro screen my friend specifically the sound. Could you please make a video about sound? I think it's an important part and nobody talks about it.

[@solomonwambugu3251]

great work and thanks for being resourceful..keep doing this you are a great work for interested peeps like myself.

[@Masoud_Amiri]

I use Arnold for Max and Maya, VRED Pro for NX, SW, SE, Inventor and Alias, Lumion for Revit.

[@weepingcypress]

08:02 I swear to god I got scared and thought someone is playing guitar behind my window.

[@MahdiDakhli]

I read your comment before the guitar starting to rumble and I fucking felt it. That was epic hahahahaha

[@Skyefaux]

same

[@ibrahimhijazi4964]

i felt that too hahahah

[@mkhvisuals]

i turned back twice

[@icepirate07]

@@mkhvisuals i wish i saw this 5 min before. Scared the living shit out of me!!!

[@-CQ]

Background Music ?

[@Salen0243]

You are Genius Lebrov, thanks very much.

[@harlangraves331]

The whole time I was watching this video, I was also looking at these glowing lights in these bottles in the background. And I was thinking where do you find these to buy? Then I opened the asset store ...and was like oh..... nice. Great work couldn't even tell the difference.

[@MauroSanna]

Great video Andrey, I loved it! Though I would like to point out few things: Octane can actually overcome the GPU memory limit, texture wise (textures are in fact the ones that are more memory hungry, not geometry), by using system memory when that happens (and loosing some of its speed of course) by switching "Out-of-core" on. So you don't really have that limitation, at least with textures. In the VFX industry, V-Ray is not always the first choice (for technical reasons that I am not going to explain here, for it would be too long of a comment). RenderMan is still the number one, followed by Arnold (which is faster than V-Ray and it's also physically correct). It all depends on what work field we are considering of course: like, for example, V-Ray is the "de facto" king of ArchViz (coupled with 3DS Max). C4D (native renderer or Octane) is the most used application in Motion Graphics, most of the times along with After Effects (although I consider Fusion to be way more powerful and fast). At the end of the day though, as you well pointed out, the user is the one who makes the difference.

[@AndreyLebrov]

Thanks for the addition mate. I didn’t want to dive deep into details. Octane for instance removed almost all limitations in V4, vray can be unbiased and so on. Technology is evolving so fast that yeah... artists are the ones who matters the most 👊🏻

[@MauroSanna]

Yeah, I got what you wanted to say in the video of course. That's why I loved its contents, because they reflect what I have always thought about the matter. Thanks for the great contents mate! Keep up the good work! ;-)

[@YellowDogltd]

jeffhaf1 totally nailed it sir. We would agree with your observation based on those we work with.

[@kyozon8925]

Another great video as always. I am still stuck with which application i should develop my expertise on [C4D or MAX/MAYA] and also stuck with which engine i should use [Arnold, V-Ray, ProRender]. But this video clarifies a lot, specially the ending. It really does not matter, all of the engines purposes are Rendering the final art. So i am going to try seeing what works best for me. Thanks!

[@kovago]

good video. i think you should check out redshift, because it is not limited to your vram. it can swap from ram just as vray or arnold does, but still as fast as octane. keep up the good work and thanks for your videos.

[@dustindupree1386]

Great video! I was just looking for information on this topic myself. Thanks for the insight!

[@JustAnotherBlackGuy]

Came across your channel not long ago, love it man!! Keep it up!!!

[@ouldeminou]

you're making VFX seems Less complicated for me.. thank you Andrey

[@DebeshRajkarnikar]

thank you .... exactly what i was looking for .... Please keep helping us to grow !! Cheers !! Peace !!

[@rmgraphicbyravot]

I want to rander no background in V ray but I don’t know how to Unseen by camera in V ray Environment . Can you show me how to rander it . because I want to import it to my video.

[@sirjcurry2182]

You are amazing. And awesome set you're in. Magic

[@carlosguimaraes7202]

This is the best channel ever. Thank you Andrey :-)

[@abdulrahmanalghamdi9735]

like before watching 😍 thank you very much for this video I'm now comfortable to use any engine

[@mdtanvirahmedsagor6146]

i always watch your video sir . love them. it helps me to do CG and now im quite noticeable to my frinds

[@facu_eze_peralta]

Nice video! I really love the way that you explain! Its so clear!

[@yacinejulian6678]

At first I didn't think that this video will be helpful, but it turns to be very helpful.

[@no_damage]

I love this guy!!!

[@jovand6606]

People don't talk about flexibility enough and how well some of the plug-in engines integrate in to production program. Most of the time i just use C4D's physical renderer because its easier to set up materials and compositing rules since im used to C4D's existing UI. For C4D as far as i know Armold is most integrated one

[@ulysse6916]

Give a try to Pro Render in C4D it's pretty good for WIP renders

[@skrohit7816]

Beautifully explained

[@Djoshua1000]

воооо, начинать путь в этой сфере надо с разбора этих моментов)) спасибо за инфу.

[@ameet21]

I love Vray and recently I started to work on Corona... Corona render for c4d also beautiful engine.

[@summoneer8993]

Спасибо Андрей за просвещение! :)

[@Time191231]

truly wisdom! nice as always, thank you so much!

[@we10onten79]

Hi andrey, Do you know boss i really love you, you made my life and give a reason to go on CG & VFX

[@ToniLeirvikLarsen]

This may seem of topic, but the surround effect on your background music is insane when I use a headset!

[@n.eahmed8832]

YOUR RIGHT THE ENGINES DOESN'T MATTER ITS US WE SHOULD LOOK CAREFULLY AND GATHER THE PROGRAMS THAT WE SEE IT SUITS US GPU OR CPU BOTH ARE THE SAME (FOR MY OPINION)SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WE ALL GOOD BY LEARNING THANK YOU ANDREY

[@xevious2501]

Just one note.. Octane does have Out of core vram option. For what lack of vram your video card may have Octane can utilize your computers on board memory. eliminating the issue with a graphics card lack of vram. The only drawback is the reduced rendering speed due to the transferring of data between motherboard and gfx-card. That function has been in octane for years, originally only supporting scene textures, but now (version 4.0) supporting Geometry and AI light data, meaning your covered, but most people dont really think about it. Regardless most new graphic cards (rtx) comes with at least 12gb vram, up to 64. RTX is the way to go.

[@YAKUILLASIN]

So no one is going to talk about those poor faeries trying to escape those glass containers on the shelf? Your vids are cool!

[@DazarArts]

Insane Video Andrey

[@sergiointerior]

yes i did a lot architectural and interior visuals with octane standalone because of it simplicity and speed. i descovered and started using it from the 1st alpha vesion. for the exterior scene its just enough DL kernel, i did all animation project during 24h. really cool engine , just for interiors i now use corona, its also simple and realistic than vray. vray was unreliable that time when i chosen octane. that time mental ray was more realistic and even now it is.

[@kukri52231]

Just discovered your channel. I really love your voice and accent lol

[@george.exe_stopped_working]

whats the intro song? i did some research but all i couldnt find anything other than "awakened forest" but i cant find a video on youtube

[@mecamon]

Really cool. I do architecture visualization in Vray and C4D, but i few weeks ago i did an interior scene with a GPU render (nothing very complex) and worked well. Gotta try an exterior scene and verify your point. Thanks for the information

[@DanielGreen0]

Love the channel, learning a lot.

[@duttasanjiv]

Hi bro, just curious what were those tiny fire fly like things to the right side? Some sort of digital showpiece?

[@GD15555]

Please make a video how to create fake volumetric lights in octane. Their medium is noisy and does not give good volumetric spot lights. Thanks.

[@retroafro1]

best render engine for a concept artist who do environment concept art - i have Arnold, octane and keyshot - keyshot is my go to as its very easy, i just feel the realism is limited on environments

[@MsXtremeCamper]

Very helpful video, a lot of information i haven't found before, especially biased and unbiased! Btw i find those three magic glasses on the right very distracting, they are fancy, but i can't listen to you anymore:)

[@raphaelbird1423]

Love the way you explained it at the end there about the driver thing :p

[@pierre.colourist]

The driver is the one who is important.That is very true.

[@risnandarmultimedia5296]

learned a lot bout octane and vray in this , i think i gonna use workbench engine in blender, 2 seconds render, amazingly fast

[@rocknrollseth]

I got your point. Very clear, thank you!

[@zerrowolf6747]

The products / tech always change, there real question people should ask is what tool will get the job done the most efficiently. I don't hate my hammer cause it cant saw, it just does a certain job better.

[@GamingLikeAPro]

Intro Music Name ?

[@tonestarrstudio]

Thanks, Andrey good stuff, that works for me...

[@Mridul1752]

Great Video , Thanks Andrey :)

[@nixambros.1075]

Great job for render knowledge.

[@quefreen]

Sound is too loud. For non native English people it gets more difficult. Thanks. Your work is amazing.

[@Khameesrahbani]

man thank you a lot . but can you make another video clarifying openCL and cuda difference and which renderer supports AMD

[@Kosari4242]

You are REAL man.

[@Madsterforever]

I'm interested for Renderman coming for Blender.

[@XxamorOo]

Btw redshift is taking the nation by Storm

[@charliecluthers3738]

if I could know everything this dude knows I would be set for life

[@JackieSmalls]

A good bit or perspective. Thank you. "Everything is Biassed" is a good point. We deal with a bunch of contradictions, and the realest fake is certainly one of them. I don't know where I heard it, but I always liked the phrase, "Go for verisimilitude, not veracity." On another, absolutely unrelated note: I really dig those "firefly" bottles you have to the right of you on the book case. Where did you get those?

[@butterbean_01]

You just gain a new sub!!

[@suhazVlog]

There is no CUDA device which is supported by Octane Render... why is

[@jameswilkinson150]

In my 20+ years of CGI, personally I tend to favour modellers and renderers that are more straight forward. I often find some software ends up with just too many settings taking too much time to setup which is why I love Octane now.

[@xpez9694]

2021 - this paradigm of simplicity has rang true as all the renderers have taken away all of those intricate settings going for a more streamlined ease of use. Leaving it up to the internal smart engine to automatically adjust the scene to achieve the most efficient results..

[@fably100]

As always short accurate and interesting.

[@skrotov]

Hello and thank you Andrey =) it would be amazing if you will shoot an issue about new octane 4 and more great if you face it with the redshift =) I think there are lot people which can't shoose between these two guys =) Hive a nice day.

[@pansitostyle]

Lights make so much reality if u use this well. I really preffer V-ray i use Vray for sketchup & 3ds max but i can use another Render and test Nice chaquet Thanks

[@ChaosOver]

For most users the engine doesnt matter cause their projects are not complex enough. They wont even use scripting for rendering, like editing Arnolds .ass files. If stuff like injections (so called in IFD and RIB) is not exposed through a GUI they will never use such mechanics. The Renderer that offers the most is RenderMan. RenderMan combines biased and unbiased rendering and you can choose between different integrators to use unidirectional or bidirectional pathtracing. #RenderMan

[@viciousvndta]

If having a Quadro with 32GDDR5 or now even 96GDDR6 you are not limited to the amount of Video ram anymore. Of Course if you can afford one(4.000€ to 20.000€)

[@abdoabdoo3621]

I love your work too mush and i hope if you tell us about modeling in cinema 4d

[@alxklgn364]

All production render engines are biased ;) You are right about the settings accessible to the user. Будь здоров.

[@JoysticksJournalsPodcast]

What about unreal engine I’m using it for render and have to say is better little better the v-ray

[@koki123]

what are those light jars in your shelf? how do they work?

[@kendarr]

Its cg bud