ABRAHAM HICKS OCD

[@anonu4867]

I have OCD, and this makes total sense to me. I like washing my hands and having things a particular way. It's the people who tell me its inappropriate that increase the anxiety. Abraham helps to cope with panic attacks.

[@8016jman]

I struggle with OCD, and she has a good point in the sense of not trying to label the behavior as "bad" and push against it, because that just increases anxiety and makes it worse. The real problem though is the anxiety behind it which then leads to the thought and then the action, so the anxiety is really the core of the problem, not necessarily the behavior.

[@stupidflounders]

There are a few really really good points here. Society does work hard to make us scared, and then judge us for when we are scared. she is also right about the softening of the judgement - that's a very good first step. There needs to be a further discussion into the obsessive part of the illness - that's where the fear and anxiety lives. I think this chat combined with a discussion of fear will be an excellent way to start to understand OCD. People try to convince those with OCD their fear is irrational, and then judge the outwards reactions to the fears. Once people stop doing that to you, you can begin to find was to heal.

[@stillpointalchemy]

For a long time I thought my “OCD” was ruining my relationships.. but soon realized the toxic family dynamics caused my compulsive thoughts which lead to compulsive behaviors. You see I thought, and they gladly let me carry the burden, that I was the problem. It was their toxic judgmental attitude towards everything I did that kept me stuck. The minute I started cutting them out was the moment I recognized my “compulsive behavior” was based on the abuse I was sustaining from them all along. I guess my point is, trauma from toxic people will cause you to do things to keep yourself safe. In my case, my own family was who I was trying to save myself from. Trauma plays a huge part in this!! I am not saying it’s this way for everyone, but just sharing my experience with being labeled OCD. It’s been 5+ years for certain family members to not be in my life and 90% of my compulsive behaviors have disappeared and I feel “normal”. I still have a few triggers that can make me isolate myself but I can now tell myself I’m safe and can recognize the past from the present. What used to put me in bed for weeks now takes me a few hours to recover and back to normal. That’s even got better where episodes are less because I recognize the triggers are from the toxic behaviors of others and I get far away from them. Family trauma is what drove my OCD experience. Again, please don’t think I’m disrespectful of the serious mental illness this can be for some! It’s not easy.. I’m hoping sharing this side of it will help someone!! ❤

[@Zatazha]

Diverting OCD thoughts increases the OCD. People need to LOOK at their fears and anxiety in order to get rid of it. I like Hicks, but doing things just because it makes someone feel good, or only looking at the positive makes the negative stronger. It causes resistance. Resistance makes it come faster.

[@leahmay1506]

I don’t think Abraham advised to “divert” any thoughts, they suggested to soften them, which makes perfect sense, IMO of course. To each their own.

[@ronniec99]

I love Abraham and she had some interesting points here. Loved listening to this and I'll be listening to this again, such a fresh perspective! I do just want to say that as someone who has OCD, the compulsions (ritual) may feel good at that very moment but at the same time, it makes things worse later and makes you feel trapped. Justifies that there's even something to be afraid of and reinforces the belief that you can't trust yourself if something goes wrong.

[@merlepoodles]

I think the misconception here is that this is advice for people affected by OCD - while it is intended to help the folks that life, work, encounter or occasionally deal with people affected by OCD. I live with a young adult son who has severe thought OCD and the more I learn about the LoA, the only way to get beyond OCD is to change their thought patterns towards their rituals. LoA says that what you think about is what you draw to yourself, so thinking about >>having to do a ritual

[@metrognome2225]

I’ve been hospitalized a couple times due to how I perceive reality and I will admit the process that got me in there was my doing, but let me tell you, the atmosphere of the psych ward REALLY fucked me up for a long long long time. It’s like prison but worse because it’s not a prison for the body, it’s a prison for the mind. That feeling follows you after and makes you distrust your own guidance. But this video is 100% correct and aligns with what I’ve been feeling recently. People with mental disorders are simply condemned as weird for moving how they want to move, that’s it, case closed. Washing your hands a bunch is just a certain type of movement, just like pushing a cart of groceries, filing taxes, whatever. If someone wants to condemn you for the way you want to move, they have absolute NO RIGHT to do so. If someone puts you down for moving how you want to move, that is the ultimate tyranny conceivable, and honestly, fuck em. No one has any right to tell you what to do, and if you only realize that, it’s no longer the whole world after you, it’s one stupid fucker that can get lost. There is no “world” that is after you, only individuals who think they know some shit. When you deal with it at the individual level, there is absolutely no problem.

[@AnaMaria-ld8ht]

Very compassionate advice

[@Zatazha]

Abraham is in resistance to looking at negativity.

[@AwujoolaFadeke]

Phenomenal conversation. Thanks for allowing us to peek in. It's changing my life!

[@Tam438]

Best advice ever for ocd. Thank you Abraham, thank you, thank you, thank you

[@juliachristina1013]

I am the only one judging myself for my OCD behaviors because I don't seek help for it...but the problem is the contradiction in energy...I give myself relief by acting a compulsion out, but I also criticize myself for it.

[@trenpher3450]

I could never understand people forcing others to be what they think they should be.

[@2ciella]

Yes .... highly sensitive to VIBRATION !! Soften .... soften ..... soften .... lovely!! Thank you ~~~ Blessings to ALL !! Make peace with ALL behaviour ..... with ourselves and others .....

[@beforeourveryeyes]

Abraham is so smart. Thank you

[@MegaCookiemonster80]

This is the first time ive been putt off by abraham, she doesnt know it all, she doesnt know ocd

[@merrwebs]

Agree, this is the biggest nonsense I've heard them say about anything. We don't feel any better, the anxiety never goes away, that's why we keep doing the behavior!!! OCD is debilitating, all that hand washing, counting, checking takes most of your attention and energy. Do not agree with them at all on this one.

[@fyd.productions9157]

Yeah :(

[@andreaabbott3662]

Same. I have severe OCD... It sounds like she's referring to OCPD when she says, "I like to wash my hands BC of the soap"... It's kind of insulting and belittling to those that struggle

[@silencio1234]

This is a terrible clip and she doesn’t know about ocd if she thinks this is correct info. Ocd rituals do not provide relief and make things WORSE!!!

[@tylerelstrom]

Agreed! Wonder why your comment has the most engagement and doesn’t show up first? Only the ones in agreement come up first which makes me think they are burying it intentionally. 😢

[@Trekopolis]

How can you support a person who has OCD/Anxiety so badly that they can't even function? Like when someone has full-blown panic/crying episodes and at that point it's a challenge to get them out of it. All I've known to do is calmly talk to them while in my own positive vortex and hope that energy bounces over to them, but when a person is nearly impossible to control that's when it becomes alarming. I've had to hold a person who may be in danger of hurting themselves or others in a hug to try and calm them and boy, that's the extreme end of OCD. That's where saying things like "think positive thoughts" is not going to work. Anyone know what to do any better I'm all ears! :) Some people have anxiety and OCD so badly they require medication because none of the other therapies seem to work. Thanks for any ideas.

[@VB-hf1js]

I hate being highly sensitive. Its too hard to function in the world

[@MissyP166]

People with ocd carry out the compulsions so it feels just right' actually this fuels the ocd thoughts' . What all ocd suffers know is that if you have to learn to tolerate the level of anxiety until the anxiety (as it naturally does) goes down,.. then your see that there isnt actually anything to fear. Its called habituation! hard work for many ocd suffers, but you really have to avoid the complusions and get out the ocd trap..

[@veroneuwirth2568]

I ve been put down aswell by this video. On one hand Abraham says how understands we are sensitive on the other.. Abraham creates anxiety in this women ( the one asking question) Abraham didnt let her talk, didnt let her express, just constantly jumping to the question and interrupting, If Abraham Hicks is so powerful where is the patience,? Why constantly raicing voice and overriding others ? Because what she has to say is more important than us ? This is not wisdom. This is controling ego. Im sensitive to that.

[@Dan-op8fc]

Yup, agree with most people, this video doesn't address the issue and ultimately gives a no-good advice. OCD is a problem and no sufferer wants to make piece with it, it's exhausting. It causes more resistance than you can find relief from. It ruins your life - we know it, so advice needs to be a bit more "hard core". If you tried Abraham's advice to use your Emotional Guidance System, like with everything else, to address your OCD, then you find that you feel bad about doing the ritual, you also feel bad about not doing the ritual, you also feel bad about thinking what to do. All of those are a bundle of thoughts of resistance that altogether should just be thrown away. All that matters is that you feel good, so make a choice, any choice, and recognise that it doesn't actually matter which choice you've made, as long as you feel good, then you will feel good in that moment of recognition. So: don't do the ritual, accept that as the decision that you've made, and then stand in the present moment and realise that as long as you feel good right now, nothing else matters, you will then have implicitly accepted your choice of not performing the ritual. In fact, as long as you feel good, nothing wrong can come to you, so whether it is an OCD you're struggling or an indecision, just remember, if you don't feel good, then you override whatever it is that you're thinking and reset to feeling good: that recognition should be enough as a thought to get you feeling better - you can instead choose another better-feeling thought. Simplifying it further: don't think what makes you feel bad and be absolutely brutal with yourself - cut out the thoughts the second you become aware of your negative feelings, PERIOD. This is usually an instantaneous action - a decision made to let go is implicit there, but you can be more aware of it and recognise that you have indeed made a decision to let go. You recognise that as long as you feel good, nothing else matters - an implicit fact here is that it doesn't matter which decision you've made, or you can be explicit and recognise that you feel good about the decision. When you get flowing, you will not even think about what is a decision, you will just do whatever and have a mindset of "as long as I feel good, nothing else matters", so you will just make a choice and have a laugh about the fact that it doesn't matter because you're feeling GOOD and nothing can possibly go wrong. Feel good now, and if you don't, stop your thoughts, don't hesitate, within minutes you will be in the so called "Vortex", i.e. you will be bending reality and making it what you want by being happy with whatever you do. This has always been the main advice, and I keep getting back to this simple fundamental idea. Just say, 1-2-3 and follow your feelings! you will beat your OCD.

[@vegemate639]

This is lovely. But What about OCD alcoholics, other addicts? Further can you elaborate on "these people are sensitive to vibrations"?

[@JAVowles]

I am amused at the reactions here. Either take Abraham's advise or don't. It doesn't matter. But I don't think it's bad advise. I have what may be termed a minor case of OCD. I learned to hide it. It was a useful thing while I was working in the technical field. I believed I had to get it right each time. Now that I am retired, it is not so useful. Society is a cruel judge of what "normal" behavior is anyway. I have seen lives ruined by them taking a hard line toward this often debilitating condition. People who endure and accept their judgement as being "abnormal" are often shunned by society for just being different. Maybe the time has come to take a softer approach toward it. What can it hurt?

[@AwujoolaFadeke]

That was so good. So absolutely good!

[@moulahrouge8025]

Unless and until u are having ocd u won't be getting to understand to the deepest what Abe is telling us here.. It's easy to wrap up words when you aren't aching, trembling and moaning inside... Abe knows how to soothe first on this terrible feeling. Then only after that in which anyone with ocd can have the chance of having the feeling of relief and healing...

[@quantum12b]

Nice one ;0) Thanks for posting :0)

[@paulswebdiscounts]

Astounding!

[@KM-wv2og]

Abraham doesn't understand OCD at all.... which actually makes me doubt Abraham. OCD sufferers get extremely agitated, not just by the intrusive thoughts but by the fact that they HAVE to follow up with ritual. So just telling a germ-phobic that it's great they've found a coping mechanism is NOT the answer.... because the coping mechanism itself is excruciating for them and therefore continues their lack of coping.

[@persevere6326]

Kea Michelle Let’s face it..... her advice is bull shit

[@desertdweller9255]

Exactly! My husband has severe ocd and the feeling of needing to do the ritual is what breaks him down. He doesn't want to do it. He wants to be free from the act not engage in it more. I think she was referring to softening the negative views around it though. When you label something as bad then it becomes harder to release it. What works for my love is thanking the OCD for what it's trying to teach him. Leaning into it amd not pulling away seems to be key.

[@msmrreckoning]

TY!

[@AmirEmira]

And when conditions are right I feel ok, but it has to be like I want it to be, otherwise I feel bad.It is NOT what they are trying to teach, and now they say it is GOOD that Itry to minimize my anxiety by trying to mae the world around me fit ME otherwise I feel bad, and now that is a GOOD thing??? This time is the first time I am starting to doubt, because this is the worst bullshit I have heard

[@StripedBlowse]

it's just the women didn't explain it well and abraham misunderstood it

[@michaeljohnson2922]

OCD isn’t something you “have”. It’s something you practice because you haven’t found a solution to a issue.

[@Trekopolis]

Exactly. It's a conditioned practice to a fear a consequence if the practice is not achieved. The challenge is getting the person to face the fear and exposure is one way while keeping the person calm and helping them get through the challenge. It takes a lifetime to train your mind to think a certain way so curing OCD overnight isn't logical. It may take many years.

[@SuperDMK123]

abraham didnt understand

[@theTOOLshed1]

This is terrible advice to give someone with OCD... The point of treatment is to help decrease the need for the complusive behaviours. It's not about policing someone's desire to wash their hands when their "desire" (ritual) to (of) washing their hands has already become absolutely debilitating. How is that debilitating compulsion of "cleanliness" an example of someone "moving into the vortex"? I'll tell you: It's not. The body's naturally equipped to deal with germs with our immune system and telling a person THAT would be more helpful than saying, "Oh, you need to wash your hands every two minutes? That's fine! It's really my problem to think that's a problem." Just. No.

[@msmrreckoning]

it's about their own expression and yours yah know, Abraham Hicks is saying accept them & be nonjudgemental, with unconditional love, & you will reflect that to any one with or without "ocd", you will help others you will Serve your God-self & God in this year of 2014, God does say this year is a year of service, to yourself & others I'm from His home, & we all have our unique connection with God btw ;D

[@BrandiD05]

Wow! Excellent!

[@AmirEmira]

Some parts were helpful, but mostly not. I am highly dissapointed, what does Abraham think, that ritually doing something makes us feel better?It does not, the rituals, or the things that MUST be done in order for us NOT to feel bad, iis the exact opposite of what Abraham is teaching. I for instanse get very angry if something smells bad, I yell and cry, I have OCD and am highely sensitive for light, smell, sound, touch..

[@tanjasbuecherlaube]

No IT IS NOT a good Thing!!! It is horrible, devastating!!! (I suffer from OCD and i mean: SUFFER!!!!)

[@MissyP166]

I'm not sure she gets it.. But interesting.

[@marcelaortiz9230]

😔

[@SongofBeauty]

Love! :D

[@StripedBlowse]

but abraham is really smart!

[@SongofBeauty]

Live

[@forfunsabaidee]

I think this is not helpfull... What about people who cut/scar themselves to find relief? Or what about people who masturbate in public to find relief? Hicks says => "If it makes you feel good, good for you!" She says: "Don't care what society thinks about it, because society is the problem, not you" "Problem solved" No, the problem is not solved, because the person is still suffering, and their behaviour is the alarm sign for it. I agree a person should never be judged, but ... when suffering (OC thoughts in this case), he should be helped, not affirmed. OCD behavior is a relief... okay, it may be temporarily helpfull for a person to COPE with anxiety. But it doesn't mean it removes the SOURCE of the anxiety, it doesn't remove the suffering. I understand the need of "acceptance", but it doesn't mean you could not offer a solution to someone who is suffering. You could offer help by learning OCD'ers the techniques to stop suffering. "Offering a solution" does not mean "forcing" nor "judging". Yes indeed, it's helpfull to get into their vibrational state, so they feel that you feel them, before offering a solution. But their behaviour should not be affirmed, because it shall not change their suffering. If they have someone who teaches them to frequently monitor their thoughts, learn them that they have the power to direct thoughts instead of being directed by them, learn them the techniques to get in a state of "not-thinking", then the root of their problems will disappear, and that's much more helpfull. But it's not helpfull to say to an OCD'er: "the things you do are okay... good for you!", because it's not. You know, even if OCD'ers find temporary relief in their behaviour, they still have a root state of suffering and they would rather not have resort to this behaviour. So if you're saying "it's ok, you just keep on doing that", it's not helpfull at all because then you will make their conviction that "their behaviour is the only solution" even bigger (and thus the cause, the suffering will remain untouched). If you support their behaviour as "the solution" then it will make it even harder for them to be open to new ideas or solutions, which was already hard for them because of their obsessive compulsive thinking. Au contraire: i don't advocate saying to them "what you are doing is wrong", because that's judging and counterproductive. Instead you should say "try doing this or seeing it like that and see how that makes you feel". Give them tools to work with, and let them know they are free to use or not use whatever they want. I think Hicks has mistakenly transformed the idea of "not judging" into "affirming" in this case. She focused too much on the acceptance part and too little on the solution part... Acceptance is not everything, it's only step 1. If people only accept what is, then they would never engage in helping others who may be suffering. I think Eckhart Tolle's teachings are way more sane, because they put you in a root thoughtless state to start from. He's teaches you to monitor your thoughts and check which ones are helpfull. But Abraham's teachings come down to: "do whatever makes you feel good", which can be a bad thing if your thoughts are not helpfull to you like "i feel good when i take drugs, so taking drugs is good for me"