Absolute Best Upgrade for the Evolution Harley-Davidson

[@GixxerFoo]

What camshaft are you running in your Evo, are you still running the stock cam or have you already upgraded?

[@dukecraig2402]

Dyno results from different sources aren't worth comparing to each other, first thing is the same exact motorcycle on the same day with the same atmospheric conditions will give you entirely different results from different dyno's or even the same dyno with a different operator, you can even play around with the hold down straps and your numbers will change, I've seen tests done where they took a bike that measured 100 RWHP on a dyno and took it 1 mile down the road to another shop, running the same gas in the tank with the same atmospheric conditions it ran 86 RWHP, that's a 14% variation, not exactly definitive, dyno's aren't the etched in stone result's that people think they are. And when someone like Woods Brothers gives numbers for a cam they quite often use an engine that they've done other things like headwork on to make it appear that their "bolt in" cam is superior, you even mentioned that it has one of their own modified carbs on it, you can bet that's not the only thing they did. No one has some huge secret that nobody else has, whether it's in the bolt in class of cams or any of the other's that's designed to work with different levels of modified engine's no matter who makes it the result's are going to be right around the same, nobody has a magic wand. What's far more important is running a good exhaust, anyone who dump's thousands of dollar's into an engine and runs short straight pipes just blew it, a good exhaust is critical to getting the most out of what you're doing, "true duals" are a waste of money and are sold to people who assume that because back in the 70's taking a V8 automobile with a Y-pipe and catalytic converter and having a dual exhaust put on it made it run better then a dual exhaust must be better for everything, that simply isn't true. The cross over pipe in some stock Harley exhausts along with the "married" type used later is there for a reason, Harley knew exactly what they were doing when they designed it, slip on mufflers with the stock headpipe will run much better than wide open pipe's, the odd intake pulses from a 45° engine where both cylinders share a common intake are the reason for that. The best exhaust to run on any Harley except for the true XR style engine with it's design that has a separate carb on each cylinder is a 2 into 1, this is basically what the cross over pipe and married headpipe designs achieve, one cylinder's exhaust helps to scavenge the other cylinder and get the intake charge moving on the "dead" cylinder that has to wait for so many degrees rotation of the flywheels to start it's intake cycle. However some people don't want the look of a 2 into 1 exhaust on some models of bikes so the stock headpipe with slip on's come in a close 2nd, longer drag pipes with inserts like those made by Krome Werks (spelling?) are a decent exhaust to run for someone who want's the drag pipe look, but for God's sake NEVER run wide open pipes, they completely destroy mid range power and only add 1 or 2 HP more on the top end than a good exhaust that increases mid range by 20 to 25% over drag pipes in the mid range, and you have to go through your mid range to get to the top end so it doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on there. I've seen more people ruin thousands of dollar's worth of work by running drag pipes than I care to remember, I make it perfectly clear to someone that if they plan on running drag pipes I won't waste my time building an engine for them, it's just stupid.

[@jukeboxheros7021]

im going to go with the ev27 on my 98 fxstc with 17k miles on the clock. should I put adjustable pushrods and lifters aswell? thanks!

[@usavtwin2003]

Ev27 with a thunder header and s&s super e screaming beagle ignition module. Plugs say she’s happy. Great info thanks. Tom

[@dukecraig2402]

@@jukeboxheros7021 EV27's open and close the valves very quickly and as s result are hard on the valve train, years back Rivera Engineering offered a cam for Pan's and Shovel's that was like the EV 27 that brought on power low in the RPM range by operating and closing the valves quickly and gave a wide powerband like the EV27, they had to quit selling it because it was trashing the valve trains in engine's that were running them, so if you plan on running an EV27 plan on having valve train issues down the road that might include valve float at higher RPM's than a stock ignition's rev limiter will allow. The EV27 is a bolt in cam so no, you don't need adjustable pushrod's, they won't achieve anything except give you the ability to install the cam without having to disassemble the rocker boxes, to do that you have to cut the old one piece pushrod's out, NEVER cut them with an abrasive wheel if you do cut them out, the grit will get through everything, use a set of bolt cutters to cut them and make sure that the valve isn't on it's lobe on the cam when you cut that particular pushrod. As far as putting in replacement lifters it all depends on the condition that the stock one's are in, factory EVO hydraulic lifters are pretty good, I've heard it said that they should be replaced every so many miles but that simply isn't true, the best guide for replacing them is the amount of wear in the bore's of the tappet block's and the tappet bodies, buy yourself a 0 to 1" micrometer that measures down to .0001" (one ten thousands) and a set of small hole or telescoping gauges that are intended to be used in a hole that's the size of the bore in the tappet block, measure the diameter of each tappet and write them down on a piece of paper, then using the small hole or telescoping gauge and the micrometer measure the size of the bore of each one in the tappet block, then subtract the two measurements for each other and see if it fall's into the clearance spec given in the service manual, if it's close to the wear limit then you might want to consider replacing them but it's not necessary. What's of great importance is making sure the fit between the cam gear and the pinion drive gear is correct, a little too loose doesn't hurt a thing except it'll be a little noisy, but tight is practically a death sentence because it'll burn things up, also important is the end clearance, don't ever assume that the shim that's in the engine currently will be the correct one for a cam change, if you have a 6" vernier caliper you can measure the distance from the two shoulders on the cam that determine it's length between it's inner bearing surface and the bushing in the cam cover, if the length of the two are the same or the replacement cam is slightly shorter between those two shoulders you'll be ok AS LONG AS the current cam in it didn't have any end clearance issues, however the best way to check it and verify is to measure the end clearance with a feeler gauge with the lifter blocks out, there's tools that allow you to replace cam's in that style of bottom end without having to remove the tappet block's, if you go that route then you must measure the length of the replacement cam to be assured it'll have end play, no end play will tear things up, if in doubt the least bit then remove the tappet block's and using a feeler gauge verify that the cam end play is in spec, with the tappet block's out you can also check the gear sive without buy a micrometer that measures in that range and the special pins needed to measure the gear, also to properly install the tappet block's once they're out you need the special tool that threads into one of the 1/4" fastener hole's in place of one of the screw's to assure that the tappet rollers are running true on the lobe's, it's a hex drive screw with a long taper to properly align the tappet block's, otherwise it's like having a car's wheels out of alignment going down the road. Also pay close attention to the rotary breather valve end play and make sure it's in spec and that it's timed properly when installing the cam.

[@jukeboxheros7021]

everything is stock, but the pipes and mikuni 42, thanks

[@robbyclark6915]

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[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you for supporting us! What you said is exactly the reason why I do this, I want to provide what I have learned over the years for free. No mechanic with a cigarette and a beer back in the day ever charged me for watching and asking questions. Unless it was my own bike 😄.

[@imskeptic1]

Back in the day, (2002),I put an Andrews EV 27 cam, Crane ignition, Pingle petcock, and Thunderheader exhaust on a freshly factory rebuilt '95 80 ci Dyna Low Rider. For me. absolutely perfect. Very satisfying. Would do it again exactly the same. Totally loved it.

[@porkchopspapi5757]

Factory rebuilt? HD does that?

[@USARAY1947]

Had an EV46 in my 1988 FXRP complete with cop fairing, seat, floorboards, Supertrapp 2>1 and S&S Shorty. It was a fast highway cruiser.

[@skippyyoung7872]

Upgrades on my 92 evo: Andrews ev27/490 lift cam, roller rocker arms, single fire ignition, S&S carb with Primo Rivera extened forward intake manifold, Vance & Hines duel exhaust.. 88,432 miles and still running strong..🤘

[@GixxerFoo]

Very nice! You've got all the goods in that motor!

[@Scott-rr7dy]

Amen.

[@isaacsheppard7624]

Don’t know if you’ll get this or not it’s been over a year since you posted this. But I wanted to thank you immensely, because I just ordered my wood W6 cam and all the lifters and junk I need to do the upgrade on my 80 in.³ 1996 FLSTC. And it’s because of you!

[@GixxerFoo]

I like to hear about it being done right with all the supporting parts! That's the way to do it and not have worry!

[@fxrjoe4894]

I am an evo rider. I'm riding a 94 FXR I have always had a fxr evolution.this is my 2nd one. I have all the bolt on crap and a hi proformance heads. Single fire ignition, thunder header exaust,cam and a youst tube in a stock cv carb. I can still chirp rear tire in 3 gear. I have had zero problems with power. This bike is fast. It's only got around 12,000 miles. It handles like a dream. People want to race and I suggest that we race to the coast. It's around an hour and a half ride. I have yet to loose. Evos are plenty fast for me. Only thing left to do is boar it out 5 over.it just has such low mileage I can't justify tearing it down. The only motor I like as much is the panhead. Honestly I have no desire to go any faster than the bike already goes. I may be a bit bias as this is my second FXR and I have had it for 17+years. I have been hit 2 times by teenagers on cell phones. No joke. I fixed everything but it's still been totaled 3 times. So in to a paugho frame with a 2 inch stretch and 2 degree rake. It used to be a cop bike. Even had speedo that said it was a cop bike. That was destroyed along with my foot by first teenager. I love my bike and I just can't bring myself to sell it and get a newer bike. I'm sure that there are other old guys that feel the same about there bikes. I have done so much to it and we have been down so many roads... it's like a good woman, once you find one hold on to her because they are a rare thing to find.as long as you care for her she will do anything for you. That's been my experience anyway. Thanks for letting me put in my 2cents. Really enjoy your channel. Very informative.

[@calvinhandley2373]

Andrews EV-27, Sifton 143, and the SE4 are exactly the same grind, if you actually look at the cam specs. Back in the 90's they were generally recognized as the best cam for an otherwise stock Evo, and they tended to be compatible with the stock crankcase breather system. Any other grind tended to give the owner a leg full of oil. Also the Torrington bearing is the older bearing design and the INA bearing was the newer ensign. It was put in by the factory in a misguided attempt to lower the bike's engine noise to comply with EPA standards. Refitting with the older Torrington bearing should be considered mandatory with any cam change.

[@markanderson5077]

Here's what I did to my '92 Low Rider for 80/80 hp & torque: Branch heads, EV-57 cam, SE manifold & air cleaner, SE push rods, V&H 2:1 Pro Pipe, Mikuni 45mm carb.

[@4446-b2g]

👌🏻

[@jeffreyjones3228]

H-D EVO, best motor the MoCo ever made. Just as explained in the video. Don't try to ask it to do to much, it'll last forever. The Andrews 27 or Crane 310, was always the cam of choice, for bolt-in power & torque.

[@maitlandslater4854]

1993 Fxdwg with Ev 27 Keith Black 9.5: 1 compression piston's , 42 mm screaming eagle flat slide Mikuni carbi and ceramic coated combustion chamber . engine at temp@ 150 deg c , Yeah !!! it surprises the twin cam riders. and puts a smile on my dial. It seems to be a good combo to ride .

[@BigRooster616]

I put the EV27 in every Evo I ever did and it was a do it all cam . Cant beat it IMHO

[@GixxerFoo]

Agreed, Harley left plenty of room in there for reasonable power.

[@ronniehdable]

Amen brother, single fire dyna, s&s carb pingel petcock.

[@whatyoumakeofit6635]

@@ronniehdable exacyly what I have on my 98 ultra.

[@phili-_-eagles9243]

Right hand to the man ev 27 4500-5000 rpm is like a damn power band lmao

[@eggheadrocks8224]

wow, the more of your videos on the EVO that I watch, I really want one bad. I am in my early 50's and remember my dad telling me never buy a car that doesn't have a 70's 350 small block, as they were infinitely rebuildable and easy to work on and run forever if you maintain them. The EVO sounds about the same, reliable, easy to work on, and lots of bolt on upgrades. you rock, thanks for all the great videos my friend.

[@Scott-rr7dy]

Get the Evo, Don't wait, Buy private party.All the good stuff will already be done.

[@hdrider201100]

I have an ev27 in my 88 flhtp with an s&s e model. It puts a smile on my face every time I ride it.

[@gregbrown3967]

98 custom softail, it came out of the dealership and was blah, changed the carb, cam, pipes and ignition and the bike woke up and still pulling strong for what it is. Changed all fluids regularly and have never had a problem besides the rear break cylinder which locked up my breaks while going up a mountain. Disconnected them and continued

[@seththomas9105]

Late to this party, but in 1998 I put a Andrews 23 in a 1993 Dyna. Cam, Mikuni carb and Vance and Hines Long Shot pipes. Everything else stock HD. Bike ran great and NO engine issues ever; and I rode it to Canada, Montana, Sturgis and all over the Midwest on trips and as a daily.

[@hackfabrication139]

EV27 cam, Ness air cleaner, Dyna ignition, street ported heads, and a ThunderHeader exhaust on my 1993 FLHS. Runs great. I'm the second engine (red) on the dyno sheet at 04.40 (he did the work back then), but I had SuperTrapp slipons with 16 disc each at that time. Last dyno was done a year ago at a different shop: 70/80 were the numbers then. Get's low 40 mpg on the interstate at a steady 70 mph. Mid to high 30's around town. Noticeable improvement in roll-on, and two up riding at interstate speeds. No more waiting to get past slow moving trucks/rv's.

[@richardmoglia3839]

EV27, S&S Super E, Slow Leak down lifters, Andrews push rods, Wiseco 10:5 Pistons, Crane Hi-4 IGN, Vance Hines 2 to 1 Pro pipe. Get 82hp with 90 torque. Comes on about1800 rpm and pulls to 6000 in first 4 gears. Just for fun {and hole shots) I put a 70 tooth pulley on it! That made it two revved up for cruising so added a 6 speed OD transmission (.86 top gear) to get my cruise back. Gets 46 mpg at 3000 rpm 82 mph. It's dependable, starts every time, never leaves me stranded. 44K miles since rebuild and still going strong.

[@larrys.3992]

My evo 80, I did a port & polish, screaming eagle bolt in hydraulic cam and SC ignition. Throw in 40mm cv carb with a drag specialties jet kit. S & S two into one exhaust. That dresser ran so good!

[@Shovel1978]

I had a Crane 296, Screaming Eagle ignition and a Thunderheader. Bike was fun to ride!

[@paulossiter]

I put a Crane 310 in mine many years ago. I think it's very similar to the Andrews EV27. Still running great at 98000miles.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome, those two cams are pretty close to each other.

[@mikebrown1741]

Great presentation. I'm running a EV27 in my old 96 bagger. New lifters, cam bearing upgrade, s&s steel breather gear, tuned carb. Yadda yadda runs strong. But what really makes a difference in my experience, was heads ported and polished and valve's 1.9 int. 1.63 ex. Run strong and has been very dependable.

[@GixxerFoo]

Right on! EV27 is a excellent Evo cam, it's been around a long time. Excellent power and very reliably too!

[@jimbrady3675]

My EV27 will be here Monday and I’ll install it sometime over the next couple months.

[@brucesyvertsen2147]

I ran an Andrews EV26, 42mm Mik, aftermarket exhaust, high flow air filter and 50 thou decked heads on my Evo Fatboy. Bike was a rocket. In a head to head race with a new (at the time) 103 Dyna, the 103 couldn't beat my bike. Needless to say, the Harley sales rep riding the 103 wasn't to happy with an old Evo easily keeping up with him (side by side, flat out). Especially as he had a pack of new HOG riders with him! 🙂 My Evo was rock solid reliable, never let me down

[@GixxerFoo]

Lol the 103 even with a exhaust, air cleaner and a good tune is well, a turd. A cammed Evo being fueled with decked heads literally is going to have 10 to 15 horsepower over the 103, the factory cams are weak.

[@brucesyvertsen2147]

@@GixxerFoo and the rider on my Evo (my sales guy) was 50-60Lbs heavier than the guy on the 103 🙂

[@spiderbrandt4066]

I run a Andrews EV46 and have done for 30 years or more a Quick Silver cab and Points and have around 85 hp and I have ridden about 280,000kl and 2 rebuilds , I'm smiling because I have photos ha ha , can you tell I'm old ?

[@4446-b2g]

thats awesome man! i have a similar setup in my fxr.. i just did my first rebuild👌🏻

[@Tacticald556]

Just got a 98 blown cam bearing… ultra any tips or upgrades while I got her apart? Appreciate any input thanks

[@adamgianetti6315]

Yup EV 46

[@glyde9826]

I used a EV27 with re-jetted carb, Vance And Hines straight shots and had 60 thousandth milled heads on my 1998 FXD. This was a really good combo for me.

[@GixxerFoo]

The V&H straight shots were the go to pipes!

[@davidhogan7008]

Literally just put some straight shots on my 04 sportster custom. Doing cams next year probably.

[@tankbulldogge8639]

I'm running an Andrews EV27 with an S&S carb set up & slip on pipes for the last 28 years on my 1990 FXRS-SP & it runs pretty good.

[@GixxerFoo]

That EV27 is one the best EVO cams out there!

[@jacobhendrickson8935]

Been a die hard crotch rocket guy all my life still am but recently picked up my first Harley. I immediately felt something and can’t put my finger on it, just fun to ride. I guess it’s the way the engine makes it’s power. Just really fun to cruise around on. 2011 fatboy with a 255 cam dyno tuned and feels great to me. But it’s the only Harley I’ve ever road. With that said I know what a fast bike feels like and my R1,R6,& vmax give me that. There is just something about the Harley that makes it fun to ride. The weight makes it feel so smooth and the torque moves it well. I wouldn’t change a thing.

[@GixxerFoo]

Same here! I was big sport bike guy for years, that's all I would ride. I finally rode a Harley and loved it, it really is the way they make power and put it to the ground. The cam and the dyno tune makes a huge difference on your bike with the power!

[@grantunderhill6451]

Love your channel.I Been riding and wrenching for 50 years and you teach me something new everyday.love tour delivery method

[@bobc8649]

In 96-97 ran a 91 Sturgis with Branch heads, Mikuni 42mm carb, Thunderheader, SE adjustable ignition, and EV59 cam. 84 hp. Fun bike !

[@TheLoneWolf_andCoyote]

i've had my 96 FXSTSB Since new I hopped it up back in 98' with a SE-4 cam and a screamin eagle intake and Mikuni hsr 45 carb, air cleaner with paucho drag pipes with a slide in baffles. That was kinda the normal thing back then but for a EVO it always performed well. I'm sure a good 2 into 1 would of run a little better but the drag pipes still look gangster on it.

[@Junior-fd8ux]

I hear ya on the pipes. Id like to try a Thunder 2 into 1 but love the look of my SE pipes.

[@b.chuchlucious5471]

New EV-23 in my '97 Road King. Torque band right where it needs to be on a heavy RK. James gaskets added and discovered it had screaming eagle pistons and ported/polished heads, added bonus! Low miles, ready to rock.

[@glenntaylor6201]

I've run a EV3 in my Dyna for the past 20 years and love it

[@GixxerFoo]

Andrews makes a dang nice cam and they work very very well for the Evo engines.

[@jeffhudson2346]

Adding a s&s lifter limiting kit and Rivera taper lite pushrods makes the cams in evo engines work like they should.

[@charliedee9276]

On my 98 Softail Custom an EV3 with Jims lifters woke it up. An Super E also helped. However the Softail is geared to the moon, fell on its face in 5th on the freeway. A Zippers chain conversion with a gearing change is what really complimented the cam and totally transformed the bike, also allowed a 140 rear tire to fit which looks MUCH better than the skinny stock tire.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome to hear, gear changes are so much cheaper and easier with the chain conversion. I never could get past those skinny rear tires Harley used to use, they look so much better with the bigger tire.

[@jamesstafford5564]

I run a 140 on my softail with a belt and no mods. Just an FYI.

[@knowbody9679]

Dude. I was thinking this. The highway gearing sucks on my fatboy. Needs more in fifth gear.

[@recipe1973]

And reliability I love my evo it’s never let me down (knock on wood) 118,000 miles I’ve put rings and trans bearings but I’ve always made it home

[@jonz5978]

I have run ev27. They work really well with wiseco 10:1 pistons and head work with roller rockers. 90hp + with good exhaust (pro pipe or thunder header) ....also upgrade that ignition 🤙

[@jonz5978]

Ps... modify stock cv carb. It is an excellent carb if u know what your doing.

[@josephtizol9695]

Loving these EVO videos and the Shovelhead video was a nice surprise. I’ve got a 93 FLHTP and I went with the EV-27 with S&S pushrods.. S&S steel breather gear... S&S lifters and upgraded Torrington B138 bearing....3 angle valve job..S&S super E and a Thunderheader. Bikes a lot of fun n rides great for what it is

[@murrelldooms7982]

I have been using Andrews cams for about 18 years Both of my evolution motors have them. Ev 23 and Ev 13 . Great for my bike's. Ev13 is a little bit noisy stepper ramps. EV23 comes in a little bit sooner really hard to tell to much different in them. Both are great cams

[@leewarry8641]

I rebuilt one of my evo I put a ev27 cam wisaco piston s&s lifters a Jim's 3 hole crank pin flowed heads & a thunder jet carb kit .it flew for a superglid. Plenty of pull & great fun .

[@JCcanU]

2010 I went with SE heads, EV 23 cam, Mikuni 42 carb, Kirker Pipes 3-1/2 Super Trapp thunder Dino was 98 HP , I was shooting for 100 hp . 98 is fine a 103 stock cant touch this .

[@williamhawkins7282]

EV 27, modified stock carb (polished slide, jets, etc.), indexed plugs, s&s air cleaner, stock wrapped dyna head pipes with my 7/8-2 inch stepped exhaust , 48 tooth rear sprocket, 5 speed close ratio, in a light weight rigid frame. FUN & QUICK!

[@MrBarman650]

In the mid '80s I put in an Andrews EV3. Boy what a difference! It's the cam the Evo should have had as stock in my humble opinion 😁

[@dukecraig2402]

Camp's like that are what Harley would have loved to put in from the factory but they have to deal with federal emissions standards.

[@bradleyyounger8499]

I had an ev13 in a road king.. perfect power in the usable rpm

[@charlesprice7608]

Chris Worthington ran a ev3 in my 1990 FXRS, went with a crane cam with less lift and more duration in my 94 FXLR, wasn’t even close, went back to the ev3. Super Trapp duals, couldn’t bring myself to run 2 into 1. Leaned out a Screaming Eagle carb, SE ignition module. Bikes would run and still pull 2up without having to downshift to get power. And still got 50mpg under normal riding. Man I wish they would bring bake the FXR’s best bike ever made IMHO.

[@GixxerFoo]

The FXR was a hell of a bike, they would sell a ton of them if they brought it back.

[@montana1636]

My ole man still runs an SE57 w a mikuni SE carb, VH Longstraightshots, adjustable pushrods, and a Dyna200i programmable ignition, with a tweak to the VOES switch adjuster, and he keeps up with big dog S&S 124" 120hp sidewinder, and some customUltima S&S 130" 125hp(?) Elbruto, and a Screaming Eagle/CVO Breakout with a few Grand worth of work done from the dealership 2014-16? Whatever size an SE CVO V-TWIN on a breakout, each bike was over 150 pounds lighter than his, each operator was about 40 pounds lighter, he was loaded with ammo from a gun show filling the saddlebags, and 2up, me on the Lepera, they took off line they were in a drag race, without warning, he just notched it into cog #2 when he just rolled on the grip a bit, he wasn't full throttle or stretching the gears out, just a couple steps above normal cruising acceleration, and rode right up between them let off and then twisted it up at over a buck, he skinned a layer of rubber off, before they caught up, (to be fair he is a former AMA CCS and WERA Road Racer, Drag Race fanatic, and igrudge match money winner, has a talent and knack for going faster than other bikes of the same class or above, tesrs em up on the strip, on dirt, Sand, Up hills, in snow or on Ice, during freezing rain and snow mixed in the NC Mountains (well he was probably the only knuckledragging nut in the entire state out riding a motorcycle on the treacherous roads, much less a Patriot Red Pearl Super Blingy Chromed out customized Fatboy with 20" apehangers wearing a half lid, on frozen ice covered roads with fresh snow or in some spots quickly freezing rain (near the towns) and not pushy footing around, he was getting looks of wide eyed disbelief from NC State Troopers, with chains on their tires, and old-school seasoned Bikers in pickuptrucks alike, but when he took off, and was all business, (I could tell his ass was locked to the seat like a pit bull, but only when he'd catch a red traffic light.) They were in full blown "Holy Shit Are You Seeing This !?" Mode, I have the video up from right before it started accumulating, Anyway his 80" Evo is about 98-110 hp calculated byv the gross weight, and 1/8mile Speed n ET don't ask speed, all he remembered was the time, and I forget 1/8 mile stuff

[@michaelmorgan5714]

All this information was worth listening to. I've never owned an evo but I like what you're saying about them. I've owned 2 Pan heads, one shovel and a gold wing.Now I still have a 2003 v-rod a 65 Pan on a rigid frame and a 07 Sportster for the wife. I'm 68 and expect to not buy another bike wile I'm still able to ride well. I have been looking at the used Victories as of late because of seeing a cut away motor and loving the design. The only thing I noticed was the first graph did not have the RPM (lower border) and was not visible so I had to guess. P.S. My 84 year old father in law owns a Yamaha FJR 1300 he hasn't ridden in 3 years. I might borrow that if I find time to drain the old fuel and clean it up. Mike from Maryland

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you for checking out the video! My dad is 76 and he rides a NightRod Special, he hasn't slowed down much. Sounds like you have a nice garage full of bikes!

[@michaelmorgan5714]

@@GixxerFoo The Pan Head lives in the living room. Now that we don't have grand kids living with us This winter I plan on putting a 2004 deuce front end on it this winter. There's nothing like a disc front brake!!!

[@texasaggie8449]

I had an Andrews EV23 in my ‘94 FXDWG. Loved it combined with my Python III exhaust.

[@GixxerFoo]

Nice! I bet it had some damn nice lope with that cam and exhaust!

[@CarlGraber-kt7ps]

I put in an Andrew's 23 in our 94 Ultra.😊! The torque improvement is phenomenal! Fifth gear at 15 rpm, the wife on the back, it pulls away faultless.

[@pedrotaylor440]

I'd really like to hear what you have to say about the EV46 and how it compares to an EV27 I have a 98 fatboy with step tuned Hooker headers, crane Hi4E ignition, a 42ml mikuni, and an EV46. A comparison against an EV 27 for example on paper would very interesting. Cheers.

[@boost7983]

I ran a Wood cam/ w6, expensive, but good. After some mods ended with the w8,H. Still an 80" motor. Murdered tires, chains, sprockets, wheels, and clutches Was loads of fun, but too much maintenance. He makes good cams. I would recommend keeping it closer to stock. Good Lord, just noticed this post is 2, count ' em, TWO years old...

[@ranchodeluxe1]

Ev27 is great up to about 82 hp. In my current street ride. It's limit is 80 hp. I've built a lot of them up to about 93 hp. It takes expert headwork, 1.940 intake and I used the Headquarters number 23 and 26. Both took headwork. Spring spacing, valve to valve, TDC lift, etc. We broke triple digits with the HQ 26 and a maximum effort race engine. It was pretty lame on the street, but really cooked in the old AMRA m/FL class.

[@pb68slab18]

The Andrews EV-27 is the same cam HD sells in it's stage 2 EFI kit. I removed the Magnetti-Spaghetti fuel injection from my '97 RK and replaced it with a Dyno-jetted Keihin CV-40 , Dyna 2000i ignition , V&H Tru-Duals w/fishtails and the EV-27 cam with Jims lifters. Runs nice and smooth with noticeably more power.

[@GixxerFoo]

That was a good move in my opinion, the old Mag EFI can be finicky.

[@jazzsounds8159]

Can I use the EV27 on a 96 Electra Glide Classic with Magnetti?

[@pb68slab18]

The stage 2 kit included the cam, bigger injectors, air cleaner and a download cartridge. Harley dealers won't even look at a bike with M-M injection now. I have the injectors and a bunch of M-M stuff for sale, including a never used Power Commander tuning kit.@@jazzsounds8159

[@lloydbealer7556]

2 very nice cams for the evil or the Andrew's 46 and the stock L Cam from Harley 500" of lift on the intake and the exhaust

[@danielbates4137]

My 98 evo roadking I did Andrew ev27 cam,wiseco forged pistons, bored cylinders 5thousands,s&s adjustable push rods,s&s lifter ,ported heads,metal breather valve, cobra 2 into 1 exhaust, cobra fi2000 tuner,power house ignition kit,BDL extra plate clutch and Arlene ness big sucker. Needless to say she runs like a scalded dog. Oh and has 75000 miles on him👍. Keep them evos alive folks

[@GixxerFoo]

Right on! You got a nice build done right!

[@rdboston7866]

My 2017 sportster 48, coming back from Daytona the other night. I was running with some sport bike 600. I was running around the 138mph.

[@GixxerFoo]

My wife has 2017 48 and it will absolutely walk off and leave my 2016 Sportster Custom. I know it's a lighter bike but it's got some serious power compared to the 2016 model.

[@g.g.6362]

EV27, adjustable pushrods, mallory ignition,dyna coil and leads, carb/air filter mods, pipes... Big gains, for little money. 60 thou skim and valve job/blending next, for mid 80s Hp. Neat video 👍🏻

[@xlr8r3VA]

Now that I got my Evo, I revisited this video. I like the Wood cams, but I don't like having to go through a distributor. One line of cams you left out was the Comp Cams VThunder series. If you are into cars, you know that more people run Comp cams than anything else. They created a Harley line and even expanded their famous Extreme Energy series to the Harley Evo cams. I am personally looking at the EVL-5005. It requires a spring change, but I want beehives anyway. Keep up the great content!

[@rdbjr52]

My 99 Heritage had an ev13 cam and new S&S lifters installed. I changed the cam bearings to Torrington’s. Used stock pushrods also. Don’t care for adjustables. It ran really well for my riding style.

[@danielhildebrand6892]

Doing a EVL-5005 Cam, CP 9.75:1 pistons and new ignition on mine. Going to be a long 5-6 weeks waiting for the machine work to be done.

[@ozziejim8472]

97 WG Ev23, Mikuni, pipes. Happy days!

[@take5th]

I bought a new XL1200S in 1998. Billed as the ‘performance’ version (two plugs/cyl, extra front disc, maybe a tad mor compression) Thought I could spice it up, above and beyond the initial torque grunt. Pipes, jets, filter, host tube. Killed the torque, didn’t add much on top. Actually, still makes power when rev limiter kicks in, at 5500!!! One available for 6300 rpm available, was, but expensive. i gave up. Found out how much Harley’s are different from modern engines, dirt bike engines, etc. I was completely ignorant going in. No youtube in 1998…hard to get info like you can today. Regardless, the bike looks fantastic. Still have that ‘98, still runs great 8000 miles. Still For Sale.

[@patrat6072]

My 88 fxstc moves with no issues. I have a w6 cam, mikuni42 carb, s&s lifters, ultima ignition, and adjustable pushrods. Top end is all stock but it goes great. For bolt on stuff it's way different than it was when I got it. Anybody looking for a cam if you can't decide just go w6 it was well worth it.

[@GixxerFoo]

Good cam in an Evo makes a world of difference over stock!

[@darrinwestphal4250]

You forgot the Andrew's ev3 cam or ev46...

[@stevemason2939]

I put a 13 n my softtail Got an ultima 6 speed n a Makuni 42 VnH long shots Got great torque n top end Avrage 50 plus mpg Can use 6 gear from 50 up Some had put a 38 Got around 30 mpg And couldnt ust the 6 speed till 80 mph Im happy with the 13

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome! Those 6 speeds make a huge difference!

[@paulgrenier6773]

I own 2 Evos, my favorite is a 1989 FXSTS punched out to a 3 5/8 bore and screamin eagle heads. I run a V-Thunder 5030 cam and that thing rocks. Much better "pull" than an EV-27 I previously had....Just an FYI. Appreciate your videos.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, I appreciate it! That 5030 is a lot more aggressive than the EV27, but that bore really gives that cam you have now some room to breathe!

[@williamquire2115]

Really glad to here you talk about a decent harley for a change

[@nunyabidniz2868]

If you've got a CA-spec evo, you're going to be ECSTATIC w/ a cam upgrade!

[@jorgejanephotography58]

Does the wood knight prowler w6 fit in a 1994 evo heritage soft tail

[@Pork-Chopper]

Look at V-Thunder cams. Excellent cams with soft opening n closing ramps for engine longevity. I ran an Andrews EV-27 and after about 25,000 miles it beat up my cam n one of the lifters to where the tiny needle bearings were coming off the lifter roller. The EV27's fast opening n closing ramps are too aggressive n beat up on your valve train. Eventually damage will occur. That's why I went with Comp Cams V-Thunder series cams because they were specifically designed to be easy on the valve train to increase engine longevity. As far as power n torque, I have no complaints, they do their job well, have a real smooth idle n give you that low po-ta-to, po-ta-to idle that you want to hear. They are awesome cams. You really don't need anything higher than a 520 lift cam with a decent duration to produce good power n work easy on your valve train. Anything higher n the engine fights itself to produce power working against those heavy 200+lb valve spring rates. Something to think about. Live Free Ride Hard

[@numbskullsknuckleheheads7636]

I'd need taller valve springs? (For sure,but what else do I gotta do for a .595" cam? I had a 96" 4x4 s&s sidewinder evo in a bar hopper,that thing had balls!

[@Pork-Chopper]

@@numbskullsknuckleheheads7636 A 595 cam is to big. Yeah, not necessarily taller, but stronger valve springs. This alone will overstress the valve train causing premature wear, n sooner or later damage. That big cam will also require cutting down the valve guide to allow for the added lift so the bottom of the top spring collar n keepers won't hit the top of the valve guide when the valve is opening the valve. It also needs to be cut down enough to allow to install valve guide seals or your engine will burn n smoke oil. By cutting down the valve guide, you are also reducing the length of the valve guide decreasing the amount of support the valve guide gives the valve stem, in essence making it weaker. The movement of the valve will eventually start wallowing out the top of the valve guide. That's why keeping an engine close to stock specs with the biggest "bolt in" cam works best for engine longevity. And you don't necessarily need a higher lift, you just need a moderate lift with a "longer duration" to keep the valve "open longer". You can also machine the heads to accept larger valves (tulips) to minimize the lift of the cam, because a longer duration achieves the same thing with alot less stress n friction on the valve train which equals Horsepower. You may have to figure out which duration cam will work best with the piston stroke to maximize your "swept volume", ie, how much air n fuel the piston will suck in... High compression is not necessarily needed either, unless you're planning on having high octane fuel on hand all the time. 9:1 compression is good for the standard 91-93 octane that's available at the pump. Any higher compression n your engine will run like shit. Your call..

[@jeridross2265]

Adjustable pushrods eliminate the need to remove the rocker arms. Otherwise the fuel tank, rocker boxes and rocker arms need to be removed to access the pushrods to unload the lifters.

[@davidkris]

I just bought a '96 Wide Glide and it has no history. Will the cam have markings that will tell me if it's stock? Love your channel and informative no bullshit approach! Thanks for any suggestions you have.

[@davidfaria6194]

I have the 27 in mine, I love it it’s got great torque throughout but of course I haven’t tried a 23

[@GixxerFoo]

27 is the go to Evo cam!

[@pyromedichd1]

I've been running an Andrews EV46. I don't know if they still make it or not.

[@wendyvic4046]

I run that also. That is a GOOD cam with a higher comptession ratio.

[@andresinnett4319]

I've just taken ownership of a 1986 softail , it is supposed to have had.ev27 cam , also an ss e series carb I've ridden about 300 k in one trip and it needs rings , but it is still fastenough to kill me 😂

[@numbskullsknuckleheheads7636]

This here '95 fxd got a ev 27 n a dyna sumtin ignition,and it's tired. Just ordered cylinders, gonna bore em to the smallest oversize bore w wiseco forged dome top pistons😍 and was looking at wood w6h, I mean I kinda wanna wake her up (10.5:1 from 8.5:1),probly johnson hylifts(?). Like whatever those parts together can do,I'm probly stoked on.

[@jeremyankney1733]

I was reading the spec's on the bottom of the dyno sheet. Cam's are the same. Cylinder heads are different.

[@antonkravchenko1622]

Bought my FXD with S&S 502 cam, was running like a raped ape but the valvetain was rattling as a bucket of nails and was eating lifters for breakfast. Swapped 502 for EV27 and perhaps lost some peak power and torque but it has a really broad power and torque range, valvetain is really as quiet as if it had a stock cam and as a bonus it now has a slightly quieter but throatier exhaust note. Very happy with the result

[@jimmyp6443]

I better get with the times still running a stock 74 inch 64 pan

[@GixxerFoo]

Ehhhh getting with the times is overrated, that pan you can rebuild on a dirt floor of a barn or the side the road. The newer the motor the more special tools and tighter tolerances to deal with.

[@Scott-rr7dy]

Hey, I got a 94 dyna, wanna trade?

[@jamesblack5370]

I believe the evo was the step above the shovel. I love the shovel's thump. The Evolution engine is a longer lasting in stock form engine than it's predecessor. Basically a longer running engine than the Shovel. However the '84 shovel was close .

[@simonshovelhead4667]

Thanks for this video...so much information...have a W6 in my shovelhead.. Now I want one for my fatboy..has Arlen Ness big air plus exhaust...EV27..But it's a boring cam for me...woods are pullers all the way through..again thanks for this ..confirmation its a drop in cam..

[@rarebreed9208]

You have a good channel and you seem to be very knowlegeable. I'm not into racing or a bunch of facts and figures, but I've got a '97 Wideglide that walks away from twin cams and will cruise at 80mph all day long, with 41,000 on the odometer. I bought it second hand 5 years ago and it sounds like a stock motor and has no engine noise.

[@GixxerFoo]

If it's rolling away from twin cam bikes it might be a cammed EVO. Evo's makes some big torque with the right cam in them.

[@richardhuber9997]

Love Woods cams. I have had my evo since 85 and have put a few cam changes always using Andrew's cam until a friend talked me into trying the Woods . As far as I'm concerned it pulls a lot harder than any of the Andrew's cams I tried. If you want to build a stronger engine with head work and card and such I went to the Woods w6h and Woods carb. Pulls like a mfr. At about 110 I ran out of guts and the old girl was still pulling hard.

[@garystratton4125]

Good Job on the cams and graphs. Told the complete story,

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! I always say numbers and graphs are great, but that butt in the seat feel is what it's all about.

[@madeinmaine6816]

I love my 96 road king, Was injected now has super e s& s carb,ev 27 cam s&s Reed breather, Screaming Eagle heads, Keith black Flat top pistons. S&S rods, Vance and hines two into one pipe, Roller rockers, Thunder v push rods So not much further, I can go. Oh, yeah, much bigger intake. That is portmatched, that wasn't real easy. It goes great.It's been dependable and it's got that awesome Evo noise lol Not much further. I can go guys. And stay dependable. 84Hp 92t Also a compu- fire ignition Torrington berring upgrade

[@ethanhelmers4490]

Spec wise the 88-91 HD stock cam is almost identical to the EV23.

[@mikegoodrich7292]

Dave Mackie DM500, ‘95 Road King 80” Evo

[@tompeppint.v.3803]

I've used several of those cams but 2 stick out to me, the ev 27 and 23, I ran them both and really never could tell much of a difference honestly, my favorite though was a .530 lift cam that was bolt in by crane. Hands down my all time favorite bolt In cam

[@timmyo571]

I just put in andrews 27 cam with S&S super e carb and electronic ignition. Wow what a difference.

[@timmyo571]

Great channel !!!

[@Scott-rr7dy]

Gixxer, My 94 fxdwg, has a andrews ev27 I'm the 3rd owner, and so I've been told by the HD dealer, I'm 155 pound rider, and this bike pulls hard all the way to redline, which i never pin my needle on .

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome! That EV27 is my favorite EVO cam all day every day!

[@theslowride66]

1992 FLHTC Fully Dressed ,88 S&S ,S&S Shorty E with a 74 jet , 6.5 Hg VOES, Daytona Twin Tech MSD ignition, Power House 500 Performer cam, S&S Hyd Lifters, Baker 6SP OD(.086) Thunder Header, I've ridden more than a few stock 80" & mine just feels like its more than twice the power. My Buddies with their Twin Cam in Stage 2 & dyno tuned ,their jaws slack & eyes open wide when I pour it on & "Grampa's Bagger" leaves them behind (plus I ride like a wild Animal). Them with their "more Cubes & power/torque" are like WTF you got in there? "just a square Evo" but I've been trying to get more out of the top end "Highway speed , 6th speed ( in OD)low end torque( low RPM 2,000) for the Over Drive, with out Detonation .The EV23 couldn't pull it took it out. I like the idea of that woods cam, I would like to know more . From First to 5th it Spools up like a beast & you better be on open road to run it thru the gears but the OD still seems a bit wimpy to me. what do you think?

[@sandragibbs3934]

When I had my evo I went with the 27.

[@leonardstanford1877]

Red shift 576 here big balves ported heads high lift springs 10 to 1 pistons .040 mls head gasket E carb thunderheader 2000 i ignition

[@joellpz08]

Hello Gixxer, I'm looking to buy an EVO motorcycle, to get that beautyful potato sound, and make some upgrades to the motor for better perfomance. However, i'm worried that if I install perfomance cams and a jet kit, I might lose that icónic potato sound. For me, the clássic sound is more important that the perfomance. What do You think? Regards from México

[@GixxerFoo]

Actually a performance cam is going to really give it some slope and make it even better than the stock cam. Not to mention a performance cam will really give it a nice bump!

[@69Busa08Nova]

Ev13 in my 97 RK. I bought the bike and it already had it so I can’t say what it felt like before. However, in realistic riding, my buddies don’t pull away from me too bad until we hit 90+ (on the track of course). No idea what cam my 96 wide glide has but it pulls really good (for an Evo), that one has Screamin Eagle heads and idk what else though, I just bought that one a few months ago and no need to pull it down.

[@RollingRigTraction]

I'd love to see how any of the Lunati cams do for the EVO 80

[@jlbsparks299]

While the Wood cam is impressive I'll stick with the EV 27 since that's what I already have. Good presentation.

[@GixxerFoo]

EV 27 has been one of Andrews best selling cams of all time and for good reason!

[@losteroni]

I've got a Crane 70004-B and I believe it's a stock profile . Let me tell you though between that cam and the S&S Super E carb when I crack that throttle it gets on down the road !

[@GixxerFoo]

Evo's with a little power put in them are blast to ride!

[@pippins7138]

Always love the info on the videos I know my Evo has had work don’t know what came they put in but I know she pulls great 2 up.

[@GixxerFoo]

If it's running great let it be, day comes to do a little work the mystery will be solved.

[@kennethwise7108]

I have an EV23 in my Evo, love it.

[@skippynj1979]

old SE-1 bolt in can on my evo with a ported poloished carb and intake manifold from dale at killer motorcycle.. stock headers and slightly baffled mufflers.. lots of fun.. great sound and plenty of go for the FXSTS bar hope she is

[@oldfilthynorseman4603]

Ev27 fits my Softail perfect.

[@GixxerFoo]

That is Andrews most popular Evo cam and for good reason!

[@oldfilthynorseman4603]

@@GixxerFoo only trouble I have is a little jerky off throttle in slow slowdowns, like coasting third gear down towards traffic stop. S&S Super E with thunderjet, jetted to .68 and .295. I'm thinking of trying .66 and .28. Headgasket .030.....

[@uncountedvoter9449]

Woods w6h at 10.5 to 1 . 106tq and 100hp

[@brucewilliamson7199]

I have a Woods W6H planned for my 95 Fatboy. I have Super Sport heads and pistons with stock displacement and 10.1 compression going on it too. Did you have any modifications to get the W6H to fit, like case clearance? Also is it noisy? Thanks

[@uncountedvoter9449]

@@brucewilliamson7199 Yes, you will need to grind a small amount of material around the inner cam bearing but that was on an 80in not a 95. Also, make sure your piston "squish" numbers are nice and tight. this will help with fuel mixture and combat "ping". I was able to push my compression up to 10.5: 1 with this setup with no problems and it's been over 6 years. If you build that 95" you are going to have a monster!

[@robfiumara7935]

I feel like it would be helpful if you mentioned what other work the engines had along with the cam.