“Absolute Entitled Pleasure” Cambridge University Students Storm Out Of Talk By Stonewall Founder

[@talktv]

Are these students right to protest or should they get involved in a debate?

[@imbonkers3629]

The left don’t debate facts hurt their feelings 🙈

[@richardlloyd2589]

They can’t handle the factual basis of a debate.

[@elainepirie4097]

They cannt debate, they just keep spouting the same nonsense, shouting people down, name calling etc.

[@mogznwaz]

It’s not protest, it’s attempting to stop others from speaking. 2 different things.

[@Docktavion]

They are worse then flat earthers when it comes to debating. At least the FEs keep trying new ideas to debunk the globe.

[@keithhiggins2237]

These students only believe in their right to free speech and nobody else is entitled to their own opinion.horrible human beings

[@kbeetles]

.... their right ofspeech? But they have nothing to say!

[@neilwiddison6529]

​@YourLawInMyHeart they do .bullshit

[@kurthartle5473]

You've hit the very big nail right on the head!!!😊

[@Neil-Aspinall]

This generation is like a house of cards that will come crashing down in a way they thought not possible soon enough.

[@stilllearning1160]

These tend to stand against misinformation and seek to cancel and if possible completely silence any opposing views.

[@artfuldodger9312]

I must confess that the current state of our universities and the type of graduates they produce is a cause for great concern. It has left me feeling apprehensive about the future of our nation.

[@stephenwilliams1269]

In my opinion your spot on with your comment. I think huge donations from dubious people who then influence universities curriculum is to blame as well.

[@rob103rl]

It's been going on for a few decades now, they're in the civil service/teaching/tutoring now....

[@Forthestate]

@@rob103rl Correct. It's called the long march through the institutions. Antonio Gramsci's phrase, I think.

[@stocko5448]

and i think you are being polite, i totally agree.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

They are the Republican lot .

[@rodneycooperLMSCoach]

The level of unprofessionalism and non democratic practice of the tutors and masters of Cambridge in not correcting the childish behaviour of their students is eye watering.

[@rodneycooperLMSCoach]

@@gena8823 The greatest concern for me is that to destroy a nation you first have to corrupt the universities and it looks like this is happening and the wicked politicians are ignoring or complicit in it.

[@dcollins4679]

​@@gena8823 To be honest this is a problem dyed in the wool. Parents and teachers encouraged to be child led. Parents parent your children. You aren't their mate, chum or bestie. You are the grown experienced adult get a bloody grip. Teachers need to go back to everyone facing the front and no ear buds/phones in and mobiles away.

[@biancawilloughby9980]

indeed send them to the workhouses and if they still rebel to the gallows.

[@lasttango7522]

​@@dcollins4679I will never be child led. My two know this and get the wrath of my tounge if they step out of line. My oldest is very bright and his 6th form teachers were suprised when I refused to support him going to Oxford Uni. I told him to get out into the world and learn about real life. I refused to pay for this wokery. He joined the navy doing really well. He knows if he spouts this crap. Both his dad and I would have more than hurty feelings for him.

[@missABR1]

@@dcollins4679 Spot on - I agree that the notion of "attachment parenting" has a lot to answer for. There is a period of time for the first few months / year of a babies life that they should, to some extent feel like the center of their parents world - however after this point it is the parents job to gradually introduce a child to reality so that a child can learn how to function in systems, be patient, think about the needs of others, appreciate the importance of rules and law etc. To my mind you have utterly failed as parents if, lets say, by ten you have not managed to instill this in your children.

[@anthonysutherland4108]

The "Age of Reason" is over. We now live in the "Age of Feelings".🇬🇧🇦🇺

[@Neil-Aspinall]

2 +2 = 4 but only if it feels correct.

[@joelhungerford8388]

2 + 2 = ummm (looks around to make sure the coast is clear) 2

[@peterpiper831]

Stone Age thinking. Stomp out when your feelings are hurt.

[@mikelloyd520]

We always did. That’s why we have wars and people follow the warmonger. Feelings. Never facts.

[@Missmambo12]

It’s not a lack of curiosity, it’s cultism.

[@ondolite3789]

Nope, it is a continuation of trad male hate of women.

[@EdMcF1]

Simple solution: If Unis can't ensure freedom of expression, no State funds at all and corporation tax levied as if it were a coporation for the whole year.

[@paullegend6798]

It's really bad when your suggestion makes sense. Uni's have become utterly corrupted, far too many people in them exist to brainwash the next generation for the accumulation of power - to literally produce more people that think like you and agree with you, so your views eventually win out.

[@peterk2455]

They ARE a business. Any idea that they are not for profit is creative accounting.

[@englishciderlover7347]

Parliament doesn't care about people's right to freedom of speech, so no action will be taken against institutions that suppress freedom of speech.

[@cleopatra1633]

BBC comes to mind

[@123YMR]

Activists professors and senior lecturers are carefully chosen to indoctrinate the students.

[@rosshempsall1985]

How many "trans"people are there for goodness sake.I can't believe that they have such a hold on our society because of differing views.

[@Grenbestyie]

its a distraction from all the real issues we should be concerned about...like cost of living: food, housing, fuel.

[@rocky76dude7]

The worst ones are those who virtue signal on their behalf

[@enemde3025]

I just see it as the newest " fad" ! Something else will come along soon for them to turn their misguided attentions to.

[@Docktavion]

It’s the Marxist take over. Divide and conquer.

[@dragonfox2.058]

@@enemde3025 you are wrong it is the New Religion...KNEEL peasant!

[@seandelap8587]

Pathetic childish behaviour

[@englishciderlover7347]

Universities are merely adult day-care centres.

[@johnhamilton2213]

This is not a student thing. Just look at the way all the MPs got up and walked out of the House of Commons when Andrew Bridgen got up to talk. The people running our country set the standard, and that’s why the UK is rapidly becoming a third-world country.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Yes that was a disgrace, and by no means the first time that an empty chamber discussed some incredibly important national issue. On the other hand they had a full house when debating the MP second jobs and pay rises recently.

[@brianmays4366]

I agree to a certain extent but the problem is that we have a government pushing this Net Zero , Great Reset policy that will definitely make us a third world country in 10 years . This is self inflicted as we do not have a Conservative government and we keep voting them in thinking that they are.

[@TheSMR1969]

​​@@brianmays4366 tell me you don't know what third world mean without telling me. Also great reset policy was a WEF thing about economic recovery after pandemic.

[@brianmays4366]

@@TheSMR1969 Unfortunately for you I am from South Africa so I have a pretty good idea of what a third world country is like as I have seen first hand how a government can destroy an economy

[@TheSMR1969]

@@brianmays4366 lol, no, just no, it has absolutely nothing to do with anything you're saying. South Africa is developing country aswell not third world. Third world country means that it's a country that has little to no consumption of goods and is primarily a producer, poor African countries are third world because they are expolited by first world companies, such companies don't sell anything in those countries to those people, where as first world countries we are primarily consumers Countries like the US or Europe can't just become a third world country, because they're still countries that are primarily of consumption of goods.

[@danpatterson8009]

I think a lot of it has more to do with young people's desire to fit in than having political convictions. When pressed to explain their position or give examples, in interview after interview they simply parrot the slogans and labels they have heard others say. There's nothing else there.

[@stecaton1541]

Sad really ain’t it.

[@caroldonaldson5936]

Because victimhood is my right! This is why this debate cannot be won with any group - they want to guard their right to victimhood and that means casting the rest of us in the imaginary role of 'persecutors' - a no win situation!

[@mogznwaz]

That’s what Marxism does to your brain

[@outoforbit-]

Well said

[@dede4004]

Yes.....well said. Ignorance is the standard for today. The world is falling apart economically, and the monetary system is being destroyed, but NO......these youngsters are STUCK on "gender distraction subjects". The NWO/WEF ....CREATED THESE to keep people distracted from the REAL ISSUES of what they are doing to the world. And, people are FALLING for it. WAKE UP PEOPLE. The world is NOT about "trans lives" because even trans people have to WORK, BUY FOOD, AND EAT. LOOK AROUND AT THE REAL ISSUES of what's being done while THIS is going on around you. Then, work on the other stuff. But your LIVES are being destroyed while you're busy with this.

[@JenniBrown]

I also am classed as a "transphobe" and was almost excommunicated by the "Trans community" 15 years ago. The Reason? I am a trans-woman. I transitioned 25 years ago. For me it was an action of very last resort after every other possible course of help had been tried. My Crime? I refer to myself as a trans-woman, not a Woman. Although totally accepted in every female group and social organisation that I am associated with I am not accepted by the "trans-community" because I do not believe that a person with a penis should be allowed into a female private space such as a changing room. I'm sorry, transitioning should be the course of last resort for those DIAGNOSED with the medical condition of Gender Dysphoria and not something undertaken as a whim or form of recreation by those who have no interest in going through rigorous medical and psychiatric assessment.

[@joshuaking2171]

So the trans community are homophobic as well.

[@lsd8497]

There is no such thing as gender dysphoria. There are no psychiatric or associated diseases manifesting ONLY in one or two countries on the planet and it's not by accident those countries are the one who've lost compass in pretty much every respect.

[@catspeakegroove]

You are very brave

[@annpolese3160]

You are one of a few. I commend you for just trying to live your life as best you can. Isnt that what we are all trying to do? To be respectful of another's right to just be and not to endanger another in the process? Smile and make the real transphobes wonder...

[@lsd8497]

I'm absolutely stunned to hear about this "gender dysphoria" thing. Same with "born homosexual". My apparently never answered question is WHY these two things NEVER happen in democracies with traditional and religious values? On purpose, I haven't mentioned countries like Saudi Arabia for obvious reasons. Don't get me wrong ; we're far from each other and I can't be bother by you in any way. I'm not trying to offend you but I simply cannot understand !

[@redmondial]

It used to be Stonewall telling us what to believe now it’s there turn to be told what to believe! And so it goes on and on 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@AA-yc8yr]

When did Stonewall tell anyone what to believe? You must be mistaken them for the Church (anyone of the them).

[@aucourant9998]

@redmondial Absolutely right. The fascist Stonewall movement is now getting a taste of their own medicine.

[@cb465]

They have almost infiltrated every institution including the Army and Navy (see this weeks news), pushing their agenda, their terminology, their language, literally telling people what to think , no choice given unless you want to be stigmatised. WHEN you ask? All the time! @@AA-yc8yr

[@davetdowell]

That's very good Julia, getting the man who introduced intolerance of the speech of others and the right to stand in judgement of the speech of others and then public denounciaton of the speaker, to now complaing that he got what he wanted and he doesn't like it.

[@mgoode180566]

Stonewall have integrated themselves into establishments and have input into policy, well documented to be on the inside of our police service

[@jamesg4347]

The left always eats its own. From the French revolution onwards.

[@tonyhoban6600]

Be careful what you wish for , it may come true .

[@jimmystokoe6917]

Stonewall got to much say Nice easy ride from JHB

[@AA-yc8yr]

That's factually untrue. given as Simon co-founded Stonewall with the purpose of achieving equality under the law for gay people - and he explained how that was achieved. He hasn't been part of Stonewall for a longwhile, so any misgivings you may have about how Stonewall has been operating in recent times cannot be levied at him.

[@Templeborough]

If somebody wants a "safe space" they aren't a fit person to benefit from a university education and any institution prepared to offer such an environment isn't a university. Good night Cambridge!

[@marcl3763]

this 'safe space' BS all came from American universities; same with pulling down statues, BLM, cancel culture, rewriting history, etc etc. etc. if you want to know where all this going look at America( the centre of the Universe for Talktv and stations like them!)

[@stilllearning1160]

Apparently Confucious said that he would never seek to educate people of weak or deficient character.

[@markaurelius61]

Exactly. At university you are meant to be an adult, and able to face the real world and the cutting edge. It has lost the bigger purpose if is reduced to being a "safe-space" for privileged ideas.

[@markbolton7431]

At school (40+ years ago) we had debates in our classes. On contentious/serious matters. Our teachers set the motion AND decided who would argue for and against. It made us look at both sides of an issue. Sadly now lackingk

[@englishciderlover7347]

I left school in 1980. Back then, they tried to teach us how to think, not what to 'think'.

[@Signals927]

Most activists cannot debate because they do not listen or not prepared to listen to the other persons views.

[@thefuturist8864]

Activists, almost by definition, believe that action rather than debate is the way to make whatever changes they consider to be necessary. I think part of the problem is our expectation that such a person would be open to debate in the first place. Universities should probably make it clear that while they permit activism and protest on their campuses, they ultimately have to make decisions with the general student population in mind.

[@markaurelius61]

It's the Dunning Kruger effect applied to public policy

[@Intheuk]

Because they lose the debate on facts and science every single time.

[@63mckenzie]

This is the consequence of kids getting their own way. They turn into adults who can't deal with the real world.

[@Neil-Aspinall]

There is a lot of truth in what you say EP.

[@susanmarch1661]

Yes I've been saying this for years. And no discipline at school

[@63mckenzie]

@@susanmarch1661 The most spoilt kids always turn into the most selfish.

[@SpudBaker]

Welcome to the world of diversity and the law of unintended consequences

[@James-sj7pl]

Diversity is a curse on this country!

[@AA-yc8yr]

What, all diversity? No to women? Or Northerners because of their accent? Or anyone foreign born? Or anyone who happens to be gay?

[@unam6024]

I think its 'inclusion' that's the curse, not everyone should be included in everything, its madness.

[@Stopcolonizinglebanon]

I'd agree that "diversity and equity experts" like Simon are a curse on the country.

[@lsd8497]

​@@AA-yc8yrNo one "happens to be gay".

[@AA-yc8yr]

@@lsd8497 Just 'cause you happen to be illiterate doesn't mean some people don't happen to be gay.

[@johni5355]

Misogyny hasn't died. It's just rebooted itself under a different brand name.

[@debjane7]

🎯

[@metgirl5429]

Well said 🕊

[@domenicodiniro413]

Misogyny + homophobia = trans

[@markaurelius61]

"misogyny", a term that is normally used when a woman doesn't feel flattered.

[@Intheuk]

Agreed this is about mens power over women - we must never again assume our equal rights are won forever which in certain western countries we have done thinking the job was done. It never will be. Men - who still control the world - will always have an innate desire to control women. Women offer balance, nurture, thought and care. Misogyny is worse today than it was 25 years ago. This is about removing women from their equal right to participate in society at all levels. It is orchestrated at the highest levels by politics and multinational business. We should be very concerned.

[@susanross1651]

My feelings are that if university students don’t start behaving like students & have some respect for others, then they should be thrown out of their university & any loans they’ve had demanded back immediately.

[@markaurelius61]

A measure like that should shut down their self-satisfied activism pretty quickly.

[@telwood15]

Many of them are spoilt brats who sadly lack direction.

[@flabbybum9562]

All these older wokes, beginning to reap what they've sowed. No student should have the right to shut down dabate, and should be asked to pack up and leave, for even trying to.

[@xx3920]

I'm afraid that as far as i can see, Simon helped to make the monster, he needs to be just as busy about defeating it!

[@davidbrattain1446]

Socialism always consumes itself.

[@richardlewis7498]

it always breaks down into factions and every faction is correct and then they start eating themselves its fun to watch

[@Si_Mondo]

​@@richardlewis7498Exactly what happened in Italy in the 1920s and 30s 😂

[@TheSimCaptain]

It's the equivalent of children putting their hands over their ears and shouting "WAH WAH WAH" to drown out everyone else.

[@TagusMan]

Woke irony. The guy who's part of the problem cries when the problem turns on him. Frankenstein strikes again.

[@scolexuk]

You obviously don't know anything about Simon Fanshawe.

[@outoforbit-]

Just about sums it up. Couldn't see beyond a yard in front of him either.

[@christinavosilla]

He isn’t part of the organization anymore. Gender ghouls took over once the gay movement was achieved. There’s a reason LGB Alliance was formed

[@markellis796]

Its the same when you have a different opinion on climate change, you are instantly called a denier and not allowed to have an opinion that differs from their own.

[@AA-yc8yr]

Having an opinion doesn't make you right. The climate change debate has long since been lost by those of opinions like yours, because you have no evidence to back your opinons up. And yet, any scientist worth their competence would still engage you in a conversation and debate your opinion that there isn't a climate change,. You may be called a 'climate change denier' by people who, just like you, think that opinions are facts and hence make them right. You're wrong about that too.

[@markellis796]

@@AA-yc8yr Thank you for proving my point "an opinion doesn't make you right". I never claimed to be climate denier, just someone with different opinion, if we all had the same opinion what would be the point in universities having speakers all of whom with the same opinion on very topic? how dull the world would be, bit like yourself.

[@Neil-Aspinall]

Mark are you suggesting there could be another opinion on Man Made Climate Change???

[@markellis796]

@@Neil-Aspinall I am suggesting that storming out of a debate and dismissing anyone with a different opinion to your own is the problem, it's something that has crept into our Universities and culture which is both destructive and toxic to the whole idea of free speech.

[@Neil-Aspinall]

@@markellis796 Calm down fella, I was being sarcastic.

[@militarymodellerpaul5932]

Most students do not want to learn, debating is part of their university’s education.

[@stocko5448]

because they have already been indoctrinated by their far left wing tutors.

[@andyb7963]

Thats just it though, they don't want to debate anything

[@marcl3763]

most degrees are totally watered down and not worth the paper they are printed on!

[@Sr68720]

Sometimes you need to just ignore people.

[@dragonfox2.058]

can't ignore this or you'll wake up enslaved

[@apebass2215]

Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.

[@clionamoore8365]

Wow, I didn’t hear ANY accountability. Stonewall have been one of the biggest organisations responsible for this; and still are

[@andrewfoster4359]

quite - self awareness lacking or what!!

[@cocksure8430]

Hes the founder of 'inclusion' ffs !!!

[@hazelpollittside6344]

I won't be shut down! Just because people don't agree on issues and have different opinions doesn't mean they are to be cancelled or called phobics!

[@malcolmharfitt4032]

The trouble is most young adults are infants at heart and will never mature. Especially those that pose as University students.

[@siobhankelly7451]

Imagine being the parents of these uni brats

[@m.p.7075]

I imagine they are equally insufferable. The students didn't materialise from a vacuum.

[@xx3920]

Its likely that it's the parents who are to blame! You never see any of them step forward and take responsibility for their offspring out of pure shame. They're probably very proud of their ridiculous children.

[@joycemanning1254]

You get what you raise Too bad for these enabling parents

[@timmarsh2882]

LGB Community gave the trans the platform to start with now there turning g on them too.

[@DavesGarden1714]

I can't believe what's happening in our country

[@marcl3763]

believe it. look to American woke culture if you want to know what the next thing is as we seem to follow everything they do(BLM, pulling down statues, safe spaces, cancel culture, trans story time for kids; rewriting history/ books/ films, etc, etc, etc).

[@sueedwards9334]

Trans is now a religion and this man is a huge part of what exists now. I’m surprised that Julia didn’t work this out. He sounds ‘reasonable’ but Stonewall has promoted the trans faith to the whole of society. He can hardly claim to be the innocent one and blame the students just for having swallowed what Stonewall say!

[@AztlanOz]

I thought he was a founder pre present days but had not been apart of the movement into present day gender dysphoria rebranding & TQ+ extremism, I do know in Britain & else where former ‘Gay Liberation’ & Homosexual rights activists have come out of ‘retirement’ (so to speak) and started LGB Alliance as a measure to combat TQ+ extremism and to separate issues pertinent to the LGB majority from the auspices of unelected non representative leadership with in the now defunct TQ+ held hostage former bloated ACRONYM

[@thedativecase9733]

You reap what you sow. It amuses me when these people get bitten by the monster they have helped to foster.

[@graceb3934]

Stonewall's original purpose was world's apart from what it has become, so its likely Simon does not or never has agreed with the current transideology 🤷‍♀️

[@lydiamalone1859]

I think it's hilarious! They are eating their own.

[@christinavosilla]

On the contrary LGB Alliance was founded years back because the gays are already separating themselves. Lol

[@Isclachau]

Help organisations ‘diversify their talent’ and make loads of money 💰 Seriously, the point of University is to take open minds and close them.

[@AA-yc8yr]

Says someone who has no clue of the point of the university.

[@Jukilady]

Privileged kids with no job and nothing better to so imo

[@justsomeguy5063]

Universities are a Total waste of time these days most of these young people leave Uni twice as stupid as when they started send your kids to college to learn a trade.

[@AA-yc8yr]

Yeah, let's not have any doctors or scientists or engineers. Just tradesmen should suffice, apparently. Like in the olden days, go to a smith to have your tooth taken out and to the local healer for a surgery. Spouting ridiculous nonsense based on no experience of learning that engages the intellect (much as there is of it in your case) - seemingly of any kind, let alone learning in tertiary education - would highly likely be the result of sending 'your kids to college to learn a trade'.

[@honeybunch6473]

As an older learner i was astounded by categories for financial assistance. There is a category for "economically disadvantaged" and another for "black students". Why on earth should they distinguish based on race??? No black child going to university today has not had equal access to resources. I can understand disabilities such as adhd, and such like but these minorities are over represented imo

[@luckystarship2275]

I wish JHB would stop interrupting her guests. She seems to think that Simon Fanshawe was invited on to listen to her.

[@noahwail2444]

Facism is ok when we do it!

[@kingstumble]

University students---don't you just love 'em. Proud to say I wasn't clever enough to go.

[@jackhewitt600]

The key thing about debate is there is often no clear right or wrong. Both sides have their good and bad points and you should listen to both sides and form an opinion based on which one you agree the most with. You cant just silence because you dont like their views. Encouraging debate is healthy and we should hear each side and what they have to say.

[@apebass2215]

There's a very clear right and wrong in "debating" whether men can be women and women can be men. It's like debating whether the Earth can be flat.

[@artj2657]

I am SO concerned about this intolerance. It’s not only universities but colleges and schools too! I think the Education Minister MUST step in to sort this mess out.

[@alexanderjohns1588]

Not being prepared to listen is the pathetic position of the feeble minded.

[@Captain_Scarlet_SIG]

Usually the people that want to close down a discussion or argument know they don’t have a valid point of view with any credibility behind it and would rather close it down than participate, it’s classic behaviour of someone who doesn’t give a damn about anyone but themselves and how the world should revolve about them.

[@adrianthomas1473]

Stonewall does not like losing the moral high ground

[@BassistPaul]

Mmm - I'd really love to say that whatever idealogy that the lovely Mr Fanshawe has been eschewing for the last 20 years or so hasn't come back to bite hie on the arse. But...

[@keithianlocke]

You don't discover " A truth " through knowledge. You discover " The truth ".

[@stub1256]

If these are our brightest and best then god help us.

[@tonyhoban6600]

Think they are working as plumbers and electricians, you have to be actually intelligent to do that . Going to university is now for gormless lazy spoilt brats who have never been told NO . Useless parenting .

[@BeasantN]

They should change the name to Commiebridge and have done with it. But the warning that seems to be kept quiet as Oxford isn't much better are these are the students that will staff a large proportion of the Civil service and political parties. If you think it's bad now just wait a decade or so. George Orwell's vision will be reality.

[@Parawingdelta2]

When did the core function of a university become revolved around trans and diversity? Does it build better bridges, design faster aircraft, develop safer heart surgery?

[@angelanicholson951]

Return to classic education.

[@andypearson2571]

No debate or argument allowed, cultural marxism in action !!!. Can we get the grown ups [ like Simon } back in the room please

[@michaelrawson6261]

What an intelligent and eloquent man. But this is the problem with left wing students, "dont know, dont want know, and dont want to listen!!"

[@philipprice171]

and don't know what they are talking about.

[@skulptor]

He is an awful promoter of diversity hiring and woke.

[@IanDarley]

They're clearly far far from the brightest.

[@shedactivist]

Why don't we have any Trans speakers giving talks. No-one would walk out of that because you'd have to show up first and who in their right mind would do that?

[@angusgow1887]

This is the result of what happen when you challenge the core beliefs of those that are in a cult

[@tmahe28]

It’s rather ironic that stonewall are now the mainstream being shouted down by the fringe

[@jamespaton3853]

Tony Blair wanted everyone to attend University. Today, anybody can. The Humanities courses are bulging. Wacky ideas direct from the Frankfurt School .

[@youtubeyoutube936]

Agree with both but how did this station cover Tommy Robinson and the contempt of court allegation and moving goalposts to convict him and imprison him? Nothing to see. Or Julian Assange in prison?

[@duncansmith7562]

it is how totalitarianism works. fear that the other side might say something that makes sense = panic and urge to shut up the speaker that might make sense.

[@dave9102]

This man is on the same side of the aisle as those who refused to debate immigration in 2009/2010 under Gordon Brown. Its easy calling for civil debate when you are attacked but you sowed the seeds of activism many years before 2009. We have a lack of structure, control and authority in this country. We expect nothing from everyone and moan when our public services are in disarray.

[@stevenwarner9035]

Honestly if someone isn't prepared to have their views challenged in debate they shouldn't be at university and should be kicked out as they are taking the place of someone who is willing to throw themselves into the work and have their viewpoints challenged

[@rolandfry5688]

When I was at university they were called cross dressers

[@celtspeaksgoth7251]

Now they're even more cross

[@andrewhughes8687]

those who do not learn from history are cursed to repeat it

[@FriendofBill-2005]

This is what happens when we tell students they must always feel safe, and that their feelings are facts. A person with a healthy ego can hear something that challenges them, (which doesn't feel safe), and still be curious to learn more because they are more interested in learning than on always being "affirmed" 24/7. We have trained them to be weak, which means they will always be terrified.

[@TheRattyBiker]

Again I ask why the trans are banded together with the L+G community? Direct conflict of interests...

[@bridiesmith5110]

They need to be kicked off their courses. They are not their to learn.

[@jimduncan2164]

Fine, don't listen, just as long as you don't stop others from listening.

[@andyiswonderful]

I find it funny that Stonewall is being criticized by trans activists. The Frankenstein monster that Stonewall itself created is attacking its master.

[@hotdog1214]

Yes quite, I was thinking the same thing. 😁😁

[@tonymercer7759]

The really worrying thing is that these students, if they graduate and obtain a postion of some significance in society, will be passing laws, enforcing laws and generally exercising power over our lives...

[@mre7550]

Stonewall have stuff to answer for, the alphabet people thing has gone way too far.

[@speedo1664]

The problem is they aren’t prepared to listen or except other peoples opinion, they are blind to everyone else’s opinion.

[@johnristheanswer]

* accept

[@robkeeleycomposer]

Two of my very favourite people.

[@petegarnett7731]

If you disagree with someone you should take this opportunity to discuss why and present your facts. If you believe you are right, you should be trying to persuade them of their errors. That is debate, that is learning. That is what universities are for. There are several criticisms of Stonewall here, so why did the students not take the opportunity to bring them up with Fanshawe in the discussion after his talk? You can then ignore him in your private life if you still disagree.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

They should be shown the door at University. Don't put up with them acting like children.

[@thruppenybit]

Stonewall getting a taste of the shite they usually agree with.

[@kehindehassan8668]

"How do we change this?" The same way we created it!!! We terrace our steps!!!

[@Crouchy232323]

People should be free to speak and free to walk out. Simple

[@rodneymarsden3003]

Biology seems problematic nowadays.

[@melrussell9821]

if you do not listen you do not learn, if you cannot learn you should not be in a place of learning.

[@orpheus5995]

There doesn't seem to be a trans right debate, seemingly no one is allowed to talk about it!

[@cath3638]

Simon Fanshawe is SO right - that's what we used to DO at uni - DISCUSSION we used to call it. And when someone was giving a lecture you let the person have their say, and then, horror upon horror, you asked questions and talked about it. It is so depressing that universities have come to this.

[@celtspeaksgoth7251]

Not in engineering. we calculated and built stuff. If it didn't work we would troubleshoot. We didn't flounce off just because the circuitry demanded DC not AC

[@donaldlococo954]

Universities have suicided themselves. We should move on to replace them with a new level of formal discourse that revives the spirit of logos. The post-modernists destroyed the very ground they stand on.

[@sideshow101101]

I went to university to expand my mind, debate and challenge my beliefs, and learn new things... none of these things seem to be acceptable in modern universities. At school you learn by rote and don't question it, at university you learn to think for yourself and question everything. Why is questioning something now unacceptable, let alone debating it.

[@AndyJarman]

The kids are scared. Scared people cling to certainties for security and lash out at anything that threatens their certainties.

[@crabby7668]

Trouble is none of these certainties are certain. In fact the complete opposite in the trans/gender fluid dogma. If their dogma certainties was based on actual logical fact, then you might have a point. However it is based on pure fantasy that next to no one believes (I strongly doubt whether even the so called allies actually believe it) and thus is not going to help them by hanging on to it. It will only get worse with time as they experience the problems associated with such a nonsensical basis for their cult.

[@JonathanChaseHypnotist]

"Most people" don't want to discuss these ideals. They want to discuss the prices in Tescos, their football teams, gardening, tv soaps and entertainment programs, holidays. 'MOST' people in Britain are white heterosexual and "trebly" normal.

[@marcopalazzo9349]

I mean they have the freedom to walkout and not have critical thinking, there lose.

[@julieclonan2427]

Avoidance is Cowardice.

[@annpolese3160]

Time to start restricting who gets to go to uni.

[@rabburns1382]

BRING BACK NATIONAL SERVICE.........

[@ronp5615]

Expel them.

[@angryb0b-f7n]

'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it' - Evelyn Beatrice Hall 1906.

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

JHB…..please note that “The university of Cambridge “ is Not the same as Cambridge University……

[@PilgrimMission]

How can the gay rights establishment argue with the next generation of sexual rights activists who are following their example ? (Not that I agree with either) It all started with feminism, it's a natural progression. What comes next is even more worrying.