The Body Destroying Effects Of Victorian Beauty | Hidden Killers | Absolute History

[@TheDavidsonary]

Lives in a world full of arsenic, boric acid and asbestos. *DIES BY EATING RAW RICE*

[@CreeketsCreek]

Lmaooo

[@brielleedwards8382]

Have you tried putting her in rice

[@sistersuperioraddie5547]

What's going on? tea that’s why we have stomach acid lmao

[@cemeterywhore]

**4-year-old me who swallowed a grain of rice by accident 👁️👄👁️**

[@olivlivlivliv]

Water Bottle I seriously can’t believe how incredibly stupid you are

[@kaylatolliver2292]

Now: Oh my gosh! why would they do that to themselves?! Also now: I'm too pale! Let me slip into this cancerous light coffin to tan my skin.

[@julijakeit]

a lot of make up products and even skin care products are dangerous too, perfume also. there are many things we don't know and don't care to know even.

[@atriyakoller136]

I never use those. I have been insulted and bullied for being pale/light-skinned, but I'm proud of it (not in a racist way - other people's skin colour doesn't matter). "Tan as much as you want, just leave me", I said.

[@Mro183]

Kayla Tolliver do people still do that? It’s illegal here in Australia! Although I’ve heard plenty of people have ones at home still ( illegally) I’ve no idea why people would intentionally do that knowing what we know!! Like anything I guess smoking etc..

[@Mro183]

Atriya Koller 2nd that ALL skin colour is beautiful and I love my pale skin now too! Thanks to twilight I just tell myself I must be a vampire 🧛‍♀️ lol 😂

[@atriyakoller136]

@@Mro183 haha, I had that time too after Twilight, and in fact when I go to the beach I joke that people could get blind because of my legs - they are legit white and reflective 😂 Also, to your answer to the original comment: I live in Russia and in most of our country it's super fashionable and you get looked down on if you don't tan (I don't even sunbathe on the beach, it's too boring). And these rooms with tanning beds are still in most beauty salons, although, thankfully, they aren't as heavily advertised as 10 years ago.

[@akbutler2007]

The organs being distorted only happened during tight lacing. The “normal” wear was no different than wearing a strapless bra and a tight dress today.

[@gusmonster59]

Or being pregnant. Good gods, EVERYTHING shifts when the baby gets big!

[@cameronwarmerdam4251]

Corsets are WAY more comfortable though and they actually supported you (I have a large bust so corsets are way better for me, idk which is better for a smaller bust)

[@thatoneweirdo3934]

Thank you! I was wondering when someone would tell people this!

[@innuwu152]

And, to fit with the sillouhette of the dress was achieved by making skirts bigger, or padding by the hips to make the waist look smaller.

[@mister-canada367]

Lol I'm wearing a corset right now!

[@dariamorgendorferbrown2762]

How disappointing, corsets aren’t killing machines just get one that fits you properly and don’t tight lace and your fine. And most women in the Victorian era looked down upon tight lacing. Corsets are just like bras today they’ll help with your back support and are needed for specific clothing. Edit: I wrote this as it makes it look like corsets are bad and the media also makes corsets look bad I’m just trying to inform people. In the video they didn’t make corsets look good, I’m not saying I’m a doctor or anything I’m just trying to inform since They got the women a corset and try it. They didn’t even put it on properly, and she got out of breath. There is more misinformation in the video and it just made corsets look bad. (Sorry for writing mistakes and if I worded some things wrong, I wrote this in a hurry)

[@_alex3985]

Yeah but anyone who tight laces their corset is an idiot and that’s their fault for buying a small corset.

[@_alex3985]

@MariaDreamed 这很酷 :3 they should know when to stop. Their body would start hurting or give some kind of emotion. Plus, the indents on the liver looked kind of fake. They were pushed in so much. So yeah it is their fault for lacing it too tightly. Their body gives them a signal, yet they deny It.

[@neon_pixell2079]

@@_alex3985 back then I don’t think they had the option to get ones that fit their body type because it was a time period where women had to fit this ideal person ,and if they didn’t fit it naturally they would force it therefore leading to issues with organs. Not to mention the corsets made in this day and age are made with safe materials that don’t cause pain because it’s the corset that has to fit the woman, not the woman to fit the corset like back then.

[@neon_pixell2079]

@@_alex3985 even now we still obsess over how we look in dangerous ways such as tanning beds and surgery such as BBL which can be dangerous as the fat which is moved has a risk of entering our arteries therefore making some people to die at the end of the surgery. Yes we know it’s stupid but Back then it was either fit that category or be an outcast. Not to mention they didn’t have the information we do today and to them having corsets made out of whalebone and steel was perfectly normal

[@_alex3985]

@@neon_pixell2079 it was still their choice to fit in or be a so called ‘outcast’

[@pahricstharr8375]

I’m as pale as a ghost, legally considered blind, my hairs a unruly mess, the Edwardian men would be falling over themselves

[@Phoenixx1127]

Don't forget that corset though

[@katekat6379]

Dude same🤣 and the fact that I have a tiny waist. Shit I guess I was born in the wrong time

[@three7446]

I wonder if my ancestors gave birth to a malshaped baby because they felt the pressure to look skinny and curvy

[@Morgan-pb5bj]

Me too! (Though I’m not full blind I’m near sighted) I laugh about it all the time 😂

[@scarletwitch4387]

I don't understand why Americans want Tan/Morena skin. Give me yours in exchange of mine now!

[@LPSmeow1989]

Most women did not tightlace their corsets and even when tightlacing became more common in the late 19th and early 20th century women didn’t do it everyday because it was inconvenient and they had work to do and a life to live and tightlaced corsets made it harder to do that. Corsets’ main function was more like bras and many historical examples of people talking about the health hazards of tightlaced corsets were by men who were against women’s suffrage and wanted to make women sound vain and stupid by saying that they were willing to break ribs or stop breathing in order to have a smaller waist. Although corsets did give the appearance of a more hourglass figure, they did not do so by harming women’s bodies.

[@illeatthat]

Amen 😇

[@abigailcampbell1530]

OMG THANK YOU!!! I’ve been waiting to see a comment like this👏🙏🏻😁

[@icescream9094]

THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT

[@doritocoolranch]

A BODDY LIKE AN HOURGLASSS HEEEEEE YAHHHHHH

[@shifa444]

THANK YOU

[@fatmanfatima1239]

Victorians women: we have the smallest waist Barbie: nope I have the smallest waist

[@sam5.183]

Victorian women just used padding to create the ilusion of a small waist. They had things to do, they coud'nt just tight lace their corsets 🤦‍♂️.

[@jrseahorse5886]

Ikr everytime I see a Barbie doll (usually not Barbie herself) having actual realistic proportions I’m like wow her waist is not small when it’s an actual proportion 😂 that’s so bad.

[@thebananaowenslippedon7095]

**barbie doll with a corset**- may I introduce myself?

[@GreatTasteMurder]

@@jrseahorse5886 ikr! I had a doll.. She isn't "thin" her arms has muscles and her waist is so perfect!

[@amys8012]

Winx: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@goosegirly6867]

Guys corsets weren’t deadly nearly every single woman of every class wore them so of course a few women went too far

[@mintiistrqwberri5483]

Wearing the wrong size and made it tight is dangerous Corsets aren't that bad

[@milevadodik2259]

@@mintiistrqwberri5483 yes yust if it is too smal

[@karmakaughtthekat]

Yes, the corset itself isn't deadly, it's how small or tight you decide to make it, tight lacing is completely different from corseting honestly

[@gone3211]

@@karmakaughtthekat plus if the corset was "breaked in" / "seasoned" properly. It matters exactly that it fits just right. :)

[@sarah-gg4ey]

Guys have corsets?

[@sc9835]

It’s so nice to see everyone calling bullshit on their statements about corsets.

[@randomvielleuse527]

Yes!

[@louisacapell]

For real!

[@GudetamaSit]

I don't think it was as inaccurate as everyone's said. The purpose of a corset was / is to support. They stated that specifically tight lacing was the harmful aspect ( and that only a minority did it ) which I'd assume to be accurate. Then again I'm no expert - can anyone clarify ? Pretty interesting subject.

[@sc9835]

Eve O'Grady Mashups although they do state that tight lacing was the more harmful yet less used way to wear a corset the way this video presents it gives the impression that it was something much more commonly worn for long periods of time. The demonstration they give is especially misleading as they tight lace her into an unseasoned corset without having any previous corset experience. It’s like saying that doing the splits is the direct cause of pulling your hamstring, and then having the demonstration be forcing someone who has never done a split in their life do a full one on their first try.

[@GudetamaSit]

@@sc9835 I get why everyone is so annoyed over it now haha! How it was framed and the physical re enacting does seem misleading now even if the information itself wasn't actually incorrect. Maybe it's due to the different perspectives / knowledge of the historian compared to the 'corset collector' , I can only speculate. Actual corset wearers seem to know a lot more than that woman at least !

[@justastranger2063]

"she covered her face in poison" - we haven't gone too far from them ...

[@kendraharris3052]

Most makeup made now is vegan 🌱

[@guacamolly_]

@@kendraharris3052 vegan means that it contains no animal products. That doesn't make it safe. For example, the more problematic ingredients would be lead and tarc, or other harmful chemicals, which would be used in vegan products anyways. Using vegan products isn't any more healthy for us; it's just better for animals.

[@thetiredworm2100]

Kendra Harris What does that have to do with anything? Vegan doesn’t mean it doesn’t have cancerous ingredients in it.

[@wiktoriakos2597]

To be fair we don't get lead poising or cancers from the daily make up products so it's safe to say that we have gone far.

[@tugboatmedic]

Kendra Harris mercury and lead is vegan

[@anatoly86]

They hired that dude just to draw on him with markers

[@tomcline5631]

And he was shirtless in front of those two women,who I think are both pretty as hell. I'da been mortified! Then "GASP" SHE TOUCHED HIS NAKED PERSON!!!!!!

[@jrseahorse5886]

I was trying to figure out if they were actually drawing on a real person, how it looked like the marker was pressing on real skin I couldn’t tell because that would be wierd I would think just draw on a mannequin but I guess it’s also easier to clean that way

[@sasharohr1633]

Yup

[@amysmith9542]

Sasha Rohr yes

[@macgirl1234]

This was just an odd choice 😂I was like, why is he here??

[@mithramusic5909]

"Twenty-four inches!" "Twenty-four and three quarters." Dang, lady is brutal

[@Extra-thoughts]

Had to scroll through a bunch of corset arguing to find this. Glad someone else noticed it

[@freesundae5533]

Those pesky organs. Always getting in the way.

[@dianerose9378]

Your profile picture suits your comment 🤗

[@kaliah209]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Rikard_A]

It went extreme. But a corsette was created for support. But with time as with all things add meaning and layers of culture is added.

[@memorialled_zeppelin-warew1346]

Lol

[@ericawalsh6251]

Ya know corsets were made for people specifically for them, and they would slowly break in the corset. to be more comfy and modern people have done things like climb trees, do pushups, and lift weights right?

[@curlyyasmin181]

Pregnancy corset? Really? That scares me

[@tuvelat7302]

If you look at it again, it had additional grommets on the sides to accommodate the growing belly/baby. Tight lacing was very bad, but most women used corsets like we use bras and spanx today: to shape and support.

[@mykilpee]

What's great was she also said men were against it, and rightfully so. In today's world it's nice to hear something good about men.

[@curlyyasmin181]

Michael Pelz most of what women go through is brought upon themselves. Feminists just blame men because they have no logic to stand on.

[@PinoyAkoPh]

Curly Yasmin ???

[@louisacapell]

Oh good grief. Shes just perpetuating myths. Corseting wasn't anything like this. A pregnancy corset was like wearing a maternity belt today. It's for support. Almost none tight laced. And why is she talking about it taking HOURS to get into a corset??? It took minutes. This is a tissue of lies.

[@fulltimemonti]

The redheaded commentator is an amazing narrator.

[@BehindTheMoons]

She's amazing ! 💙

[@PU238Wave]

Yes,

[@gwenthomassss]

She's really pretty.

[@clarissamarsfiels7961]

I love her voice! I could listen to her 24/7. Really lovely lady

[@lisasmiles3318]

I strongly agree.

[@gone3211]

thumbnail: 'Killer Corsets' Fashion Historians and people with basic common sense of fashion history: *Are we a joke to you?*

[@ohhitsoral3444]

Hi are you army saw you pic of jimin i think

[@gone3211]

@@ohhitsoral3444 No I'm not. I can't handle ARMY's :,)

[@ohhitsoral3444]

Thats okay anyways hi😊

[@gone3211]

@@ohhitsoral3444 Yeah. Hi :D

[@abhachatterjee8296]

Exactly, it makes sense that people who have only heard about corsets through pop culture (where they are grossly misrepresented ) might think they were oppressive 'silent killers' but it is rather surprising that Dr Suzannah Lipscomb, who has done a substantial amount of historical research would think the same, even though they have been a staple piece in both men and women's wardrobes for several centuries.

[@avengedpeanut1339]

These illustrations of women wearing corsets looked like a photoshop job gone wrong.

[@ObsidianNightFury]

I have a bustier(kinda like a corset) but when I wore it, I never done it too tight.

[@notavailabletilltomorrow]

Actually they would paint these photos to make their waist even smaller.

[@glengraham7080]

I was just thinking that's exactly what they were and how depressing that we're still doing exactly the same thing today with photoshop as they were doing well over 100 years ago with illustration.

[@--Paws--]

@2manynegativewaves the video did point out that they were just illustrations and not to function as they were depicted. Yet as the historian mentioned also, the movement led to even more extreme measures beyond the illustration.

[@--Paws--]

I used to work on a publication that reprinted historical catalogs. The content shown here are accurate, it was amazing what items we have now had an antique equivalent.

[@iridescentaurora268]

Re: corsets. Your average lady of the era only laced their corset tight enough to fit and be secure. Most women did not tight-lace. I heard from another source that tight lacing was actually seen as shallow and frivolous in those days (kinda like How stuffing your bra is seen today, at least in the Midwest)

[@gelililili8852]

The historian specifically said it was a minority of women who tightlaced :) (Though they definitely could have emphasized that point more!) How interesting about the midwest...in southern California padded bras are still very much a thing & "stuffing" would never ever be practiced by an adult woman.

[@iridescentaurora268]

Angelina Rose Oh yeah, that’s what I meant. Padded bras are still common, but the act of stuffing is not (most of us around here leave that behind when they get into high school, if they even partook in the first place)

[@helloiamem]

Yes but it’s like waist trainers now. Most of us don’t wear them, but it’s still a big thing.

[@LacrimaPhoenix]

Plus what does it change about the breathtaking side effects shown by the moderator. She clearly was not tight laced and still couldn't function. It's not representative, but I reckon most women would react similarly to a (not tight laced) corset.

[@kimberleysmith818]

I guess most of this video is relating to British women which is maybe where there is a difference. I know Victorian women in the UK were laced tightly and they would Often faint.

[@clarehouston5360]

Corsets were actually rarely laced that tightly amongst women.

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

it was actually seen as something vain to do just like modern day face tuning of your body in pictures

[@dorisfromage2349]

Yet there's the evidence of that misshapen liver...

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

@@dorisfromage2349 our bodies are flexible, a pregnant woman will also have a drastic shift in her organs and she will be perfectly fine. besides, corsets were not worn like modern Spanks are. corsets served the purpose of what the bra does for us rn and they were there to support all the hoops and padding they might had under their clothes.

[@gay_3815]

You a time traveler?

[@knaesh]

@@gay_3815 no,, just examples

[@adelaide5657]

No one: Corner of the newspaper at 5:40: *body of a child found*

[@cryptid_scrinkle]

I am...concerned

[@karenarrowood6223]

👁️👄👁️

[@gabrielle3128]

I saw that to I was like so no one gonna talk about that👁️👄👁️

[@hannahbg1852]

WHAT THE FUCK-

[@iwillsueminyoongibecausehe8825]

oh wait- WHAT

[@yuckyyucky9734]

For a more historically accurate representation of the effects and use of corsets Karolina Zebrowksa here on KZbin has a lot of videos talking about the many misrepresentations of corsets and corset wearers specifically her video ‘ how Victorian men taught us to hate corsets’

[@katrinawagner6842]

Also Bernadette Banner, who is a dress historian and has some amazing videos on the true history of corsets.

[@sedona3663]

I was looking for this comment exactly

[@DannyJane.]

Thank you for the rational commentary on corsets. The misrepresentation here is awful, promulgating every long-busted myth about them. I'm a history re-enactor and I have worn corsets for as long as 18 hours in a day. When a corset fits correctly it's a remarkably comfortable garment. Nobody could get through the day if corsets had actually been worn as they are presented here. I have terrible issues with my spine. I found my custom-made corset to be a superb back support when I had to be on my feet for many hours, and that it assisted me in correct posture when sitting. Further, corsets were NOT worn to bed. A lady took it off, put on her night dress, and slept just as we do now. Nobody believed the drawings in advertisements any more than we believe the photoshopped images of models now.

[@elfenlied6925]

Both Bernadette and Karolina are absolute faves of mine!

[@pris1980]

Thank you. I tried to watch this, but had to stop as I couldn't hear what they said anymore because of my shouting. :P Made it halfway. Even museums show all the myths about corsets.

[@hugothepinkcat]

I love how she goes "ohhh shhhiii--" when the historian tells her about a product that made the cornea fall out. That was pretty much my reaction as well.

[@ARedMagicMarker]

Your pic sums it up perfectly. XD

[@emmavink]

The narrator is a very well established historian as well...

[@faerie5926]

I gotta admit that the corset part was inaccurate. If y'all want to know more about corsets I suggest watching Bernadette Banner's video on the subject. She sorta grew up in a more modern form of a corset to treat her scoliosis. Also, there are other videos on corsets from actual fashion historians/ historical costumers that know more on the subject. I know there's also a video of a lady who wore a corset for a week, but I forgot her name.

[@dumbgopher2817]

It was Morgan Donner

[@Ginger-hk1bq]

And there is also Karolina Żebrowska who did a video on corsets.

[@kyleepalmer8882]

The scoliosis corset is not a corset its a brace which does nothing like a corset

[@Ginger-hk1bq]

@@kyleepalmer8882 I believe it depends on who you are. I know there was someone who got an actual corset to help with their scoliosis. I just forgot who it was.

[@rebeccaamberwhitemoon6512]

@@kyleepalmer8882 her (Bernadette banner's) waist had to be reduced inorder for her scoliosis to not get as severe. Her video on corset myths is super informative

[@jkg251]

Me: * only two minutes into the video * Also me: * cringing at the historical inaccuracy * Corsets were not a form of oppression, they were underwear, a far superior form to what we have now. Why does this video do this, haven't we moved passed such errors?

[@mintiistrqwberri5483]

The comments section is so informative The video is too (corset part not included)

[@hairycheet0s863]

How are they superior to what we have now?

[@your_dad_on_vacation]

@@hairycheet0s863 well bras dig into your shoulders and ribs, corsets don't. They supported the weight of your clothes and chest, they also supported your back and fixed your posture.

[@hannahbg1852]

Oh my god same. I HATE DEMONIZATION OF THE VICTORIAN ERA! Please, I warn you all..Do not listen to channels like these. Please.

[@mintiistrqwberri5483]

@@your_dad_on_vacation Man, now I want corsets back Also it is dangerous if you wear a smaller size or lace it tight so uh yeah

[@mereditheyusten7732]

But let's take time to appreciate her blonde curly hair

[@tomcline5631]

Oh yes! Always!

[@georgiaandfreya9323]

I have blonde curly hair too ! It’s possibly more curly than hers 😉😂

[@tomcline5631]

@@georgiaandfreya9323 Groovy! You tall and long legged like her? Petite and sweet? Slightly fluffy,and cute as a button? Good for you! I have long kinda wavy hair and a big kinda ginger and silver beard. Take care of your hair!! It can go at any time!!!!! I'm bald except for three inch wide fringe that is down past my shoulders! Kinda trying to make up for the shiny top. I was just teasing by the way, I was always jealous of my brothers. They had wavy almost curly hair and mine was board straight. When it started falling out,it started to get wavy. To little to late,I always thought. Be safe and stay healthy and let your curls flow!!!!!

[@georgiaandfreya9323]

tom cline in a way yes but I’m probably not as tall 😂 thank you very much though and I do my very best to care for mine! It’s sad what happened to yours but I bet you still look amazing 😁 thank you again and I will, You stay safe too!!

[@tomcline5631]

@@georgiaandfreya9323 Sweet! I left amazing in the rear view a long time ago! It never bothered me loosing my hair. For a while I shaved my head,it was easier when I was a firefighter,but about 11 years ago I said the heck with it! Quit shaving,and cutting my hair. Now I look like a giant lumberjack. I'm 6 foot 7inches tall and about 300 lbs,so the pony tail,giant beard look fits. Have a great day/evening( depending on your time zone)!

[@jovanalevesque54]

the hat pin thing must have made them feel safe tho. Imagine getting stab by a pretty and stylish victorian/edwardian lady

[@blanca1.096]

Thats quite gay 🥺 I like it ✨

[@101Volts]

The second Wizard of Oz book (1902) has an army of 400 girls using knitting needles as weapons, against Emerald City, to take it over. There _was_ a man at the gate with a gun, but he foolishly admitted to the whole army that it either wasn't loaded or he didn't know if it would work. And thus, they raided the whole city, and the Scarecrow (who was king) had to leave.

[@oo-sg3lx]

[you pickpocket from a stylish and obviously rich lady] [a pin stabs into your brain and kills you almost instantly] [as you fade away she picks the pin up from out your skull and smoothly puts in back in her hat]

[@milenartmeire2588]

Yeah, I found that pretty badass

[@ChiChi-ll3jt]

I'm gay 😳💗

[@isabellalouise212]

While some women did tight lace, most women wore corsets as a supportive undergarment, the same way women today would wear a bra. I actually prefer my corset over my bra! They are nice because they use your whole torso for support rather than your shoulders the way a bra would. A good corset will be fit to your own body and worn so that it is snug but not uncomfortable. I wear mine all day in gowns and historical clothing and have never fainted or had problems breathing. This is true for my friends who also wear historical clothing!

[@erlineleady3995]

Hello, what period re-enacting do you do? I'm a civil war re-enactor and I agree with you when it comes to the corset. I just love my corset when I wear it. 💞💖

[@alinavaysfligel7249]

oh how fun!! i would love to be a re-enactor and wear those beautiful gowns and corsets. i would be totally fine with a peasant's outfit too, as they looked really pretty in their corsets and dresses as well. i have a corset that i bought at the Renaissance Fest, but it's one of those that goes over the top of the dress, has shoulder straps, and laces up in the front. i still love it though and found it to be quite comfortable. a little hot sometimes, but looked cute as hell and did wonders for my boobs!

[@wyntermackenzie4952]

AND, a corset is a very effective back brace! I wear the kind that go over clothing. They are made by Damsel in this Dress, and are slightly longer than many others - they extend about 3" below the waist, so I have a smooth line over the waist and hip. [My husband requested that I add "and attractive" between "smooth" and "line".] ;} p.s. and I'm 65.

[@isabellalouise212]

Erline Leady anywhere from 1860-1912 but I LOVE my civil war corset the s-bends are fine but I love the corsets in the mid/late 1800s

[@nch3203]

Isabella Louise Wearing corset regularly weaken your back muscles and your spine is more likely to collapse when you getting older. Please consider wearing it only once in a while. :)

[@kalinaphillips9779]

My great-grandmother was born in the 19th century and her youngest child (she had four) was born in 1915. When I asked her if she wore a corset during her pregnancies she exclaimed indignantly "Of cause! I just loosen it up a bit!".

[@cocoaorange1]

That does not sound comfortable.

[@jenniferlloyd9574]

​@@cocoaorange1 They had pregnancy corsets.

[@paul6925]

That liver in the jar... 😱.

[@TheSonWhoCums6669]

So cool isn’t it

[@fruitcake1513]

I thought it was bread

[@paul6925]

@@fruitcake1513 😂

[@makousan3570]

Willa Bukata preservation you dumbass? lmao

[@happybirthday2078]

Well, we at least can see where the ribs were.

[@Musicandlyrics2400]

I wonder what they’ll be talking about in 2119 that we do now for beauty

[@Katie-mw7pd]

Musicandlyrics2400 vampire facial, diet shakes, waist trainers, and shady lip injections.

[@redlady935]

@@Katie-mw7pd A lot of today's cosmetic procedures seem crazy. Botox is one of the most deadly poisons on the planet. If in 50 years time it becomes linked with Alzheimers or cancer people will think we were crazy for injecting it into our faces. Bum implants very dangerous with high death rate . We put acid on our faces to get better skin. It could all easily be in a program like this!

[@Charlotte-oe1us]

Lip fillers, laser hair removal, silicone contact lenses/implants, the possibilities are endless!

[@margaretfudge9985]

Helliott Helliott I'm honestly glad Botox has a legitimate, medical use. I hope it continues to work for your son.

[@LadyCoyKoi]

Thick caterpillar eyebrows, fake eyelashes, fake butt surgery, fake breasts surgery, fake lips surgery, extreme diets, extreme fashions, heavy make-up, child-labor, sex-trafficking, the list goes on and on.

[@AdelaideBeemanWhite]

I wear a corset, bustle pad, five floor length petticoats, a floor length skirt, and a historical bodice or shirtwaist every waking moment of every day. I dress in historically accurate 1890s clothing on a daily basis. I do this because I find this clothing, including my corset, to be significantly more comfortable than modern clothing. I am also quite healthy, and am able to be quite active in my corset. I have climbed mountains in 1890s clothing, and been perfectly fine. I have some videos about this on my channel if you are interested.

[@goodgirl5716]

Oh! I adore you! At least you're doing it in a healthy way!

[@lawrencescales9864]

Thank u I studied textiles and these corset myths bug me to no end. It takes all agency from historical women and acts like femininity made them weak, and only be dressing in a more ‘relaxed’ way as men did did they suddenly become ‘free’ (to the modern viewer at least, who may not know men’s clothing could also include shape wear...) I feel like it ignores so much complexity, cultural overlap in men’s and women’s clothing and other pressing social issues or practical issues that maybe lead women to dress a certain way, and people to encourage or discourage that mode of dress. It’s just reductionist, and relegates women’s issues down to a clothing symbol inside of something like lack of legal rights.

[@AdelaideBeemanWhite]

Lawrence Scales - Preach!

[@gusmonster59]

Yuppers. I have done full on 1870's with the huge rounded bustles and all the proper underpinnings. I can do almost anything in those gowns - except sit against the back of a chair **L**. These types of highly incorrect videos make me so angry because they do not teach, they perpetuate rumor.

[@switchiller]

How fascinating! Just subscribed!

[@confusioncentral7331]

I honestly find it hilarious that these fashion historians are talking about how "CorSEts ARe dEaDLy!" while just ordinary people like my self, with only a small interest and limited knowledge on historical fashion, are just like "But they're not though, are they."

[@juliasleeman3660]

I think it’s becuase at this time thye took it too far and laced the corsets up too tight

[@rosie288]

Did you watch the video? They wore these 24/7 and weren’t a size 0.

[@tommatsuda3642]

Are u a blink?

[@a_randomperson9318]

So some women wearing corsets that crushed their organs weren't deadly? Omg I never knew

[@confusioncentral7331]

@@a_randomperson9318 What I meant in my comment is that women didn't tight lace their corsets (but some probably did of course). Sorry if I didn't explain my point very well.

[@breannahale6123]

For her never wearing a corset, that corset was laced waaayyyy too tight on her, not to mention that corset wasnt seasoned either.

[@brettcooper3893]

Breanna Hale nobody cares.

[@NoName-xc1ru]

I care, what does seasoned mean in a corset?

[@gracevp5425]

@@NoName-xc1ru Seasoning takes time. It comes with wearing the corset over time, and it conforming to the individual's body better. Where she's doing the stretches and wearing it, you can see where the bottom of the corset sticking out. That's from it being new.

[@rachelroosa2971]

Exactly, that's why she was having trouble breathing. Usually it's not as brutal.

[@rachelroosa2971]

@@electricspider2267 hahaha 😂

[@StarOnTheWater]

Ob corsets: Most, if not all, of the photographs depicting women with shockingly small waists were edited. There was no photoshop back then but they had other techniques. Tightlacing was dangerous but it was frowned upon by most parts of society or at least out of reach for practical reasons if you were a working women (including housework).

[@NoName-xc1ru]

Nari Shemintarc true! They would wear light clothes with a black background and the areas around the waist was painted black like the background, making the waist look smaller!

[@mook_butt8037]

People also forget that the hips and bust widths (both in images and in reality) were exaggerated to emphasize the tiny waist.

[@doctergoogle]

You see how in a lot of the old Victorian photos they are in front of a pretty blank backdrop, they actually just took a pen to it and coloured in the waist part. The earliest photoshopping.

[@nishthajain2793]

Karolina zebrowaska has a video on it

[@CassidyStarke]

How can none of you see that they’re NOT photo’s. Like the women said in the video they’re just illustrations because no women can look like that. Pay attention before you make a comment please.

[@milessharman8518]

🤦‍♀️ they do realise that a corset would have been made to fit properly and wasn't actually uncomfortable because it was meant to fit their bodies. (But obviously some would tye them too tight making it bad for them)

[@yep6431]

🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

men were the ones who started this whole lie of corsets being bad for you

[@milessharman8518]

@@sunmiswashingmachine yeah

[@dylannoneyabiz2426]

I think they do realise, considering that the whole thing is about TIGHT-LACING of the corsets, made possible by the metal holes so the fabric wouldn't rip, and that they specifically mention several times that these issues were brought about by tight lacing. The bit when she tries on the corset is a bit dumb though- like obvs she's gonna find it weird if she's not used to it or it's not made for her.

[@pauledchampion]

I actually used to wear a corset when I was young. It was quite comfortable, to the point where I forgot I was wearing it, until it was time to take it off.

[@accuright3016]

How did it feel when u had removed it? Was it normal?

[@lilylime77]

@@accuright3016 I can't talk about the experience of @Cleddyf but as a person with scoliosis, I can tell you that when I remove it (for shower or for doing any physical activity that requires back bending) I feel less pressure in my tummy, and my breath is different, but I feel like my back is not holding itself idk, it feels way too loose. I prefer when I wear a corset cuz it relieves my back pain, but the bad thing about it is that it weakens your muscles if you wear it for too much time unu, that's why I try to do exercise regularly, cuz I have to wear it at least 21 hours.

[@accuright3016]

@@lilylime77 actually i have a scholosis brace..40 degree i also agree with you. I just wanted to know how does it feel to take corset of since it put pressure at one area, scholosis brace put pressure at many area so yea, thankyou by the way! Im small so i cannot wear a corset even tho i like the shape of the corset, it gives a disney princess vibes.😌☺️🙎‍♀️

[@youarenowblocked8367]

Corsets rlly weren’t that bad, they were needed for support, barley anyone tight laced them at all and they were used like a bra. Also, most corsets were tailor-made, so trying on just any corset is of course going to be uncomfortable because it wasn’t made for you.

[@youarenowblocked8367]

Crisader Rose was it tailor made for u, and was it made of good quality fabric and materials?

[@hannahm4903]

I am planning on making my own some day. I can't wait to try it! I HATE bras and am hopeing a corset is better.😅

[@youarenowblocked8367]

Hannah M I want one tooooo but I have no talent w a sewing machine lol

[@hannahm4903]

You can always learn! 😁

[@youarenowblocked8367]

Hannah M I had textile lessons and sewed my finger lmfao I have no hope but honestly imma just save money till I can afford to have one made :)

[@ideoformsun5806]

Hat pins sounded useful for more than just hats. They called them deadly sins for a reason. There is a fine line between attractive good personal hygiene and obsessive vanity.

[@dakotah9636]

“Spending hours in the morning getting into a corset...” I wonder what kind of corset these people were wearing. I just timed myself getting into my corset and lacing it up (just a basic split busk corset that has back lacing) and it took me 1 minute 30 seconds.

[@LittleImpaler]

If you're not use to it. It takes longer. This is like saying someone who wrapped a sari in 1 minutes vs to someone who isn't use to it.

[@dakotah9636]

LittleImpaler True, but my point is that Victorians were used to putting on corsets as they were their bras essentially. They were certainly more used to putting on a corset than I am as I only really wear one every once in awhile. This video is idiotic and I was only pointing out a single idiotic thing they said.

[@LittleImpaler]

@@dakotah9636 It's not stupid. They kept saying a tight corset. That's the problem a tight corset.

[@dakotah9636]

LittleImpaler perhaps idiotic is not precisely what I meant. I meant that the information is presented in such a way as to seem idiotic to me. Their approach to proving how awful corsets are was incredibly unconvincing (that woman was suffering from anxiety at the mere mention of wearing a corset and it seemed like she was freaking herself out about it). The experiment would have been more informational if they took someone who was accustomed to wearing a corset occasionally and didn’t seem anxious about it. The whole video seems rather melodramatic when I would have preferred it to be simply factual. No need for doomsday music as enough people survived the Victorian era to keep the world very well populated. All the problematic products mentioned laid the foundation for laws being passed that tried to protect people from substances or things that were harmful to their health. It still happens today. How often do you see class action lawsuits against companies regarding their product? Things are recalled all the time (prescription drugs, baby equipment, specific parts of cars, food, etc.). It’s really not uncommon at all. I thought it was funny how they talked of all these “killers” when I don’t really feel like we’ve come very far as a society. Do we really imagine that we don’t still have similar issues with things today? Do we imagine we’ve discovered the ultimate in health, wellness, beauty, and safety? Is it really better that we drill for fossil fuel to make plastic and turn that into cloth and wear that around rather than fur? Are women today really not damaging their health and bodies by wearing heels and bras and putting who-knows-what on their skin? Not to mention the food issues we have. Do we really imagine that eating Cheetos and drinking soda is okay because the chemicals in them have been approved? (Before anyone makes the argument that they don’t consume such garbage I will also make the argument that not all women wore poisonous cosmetics or used poisonous things in the Victorian era.) As the video currently stands it just feels like more of a “Wow, people were so terrible and dumb back then. Aren’t we glad we’re so advanced now!” which doesn’t ring true to me as there are plenty of practices that I view as abhorrent that society deems to be perfectly acceptable. I very much suspect that future generations will look back at us and be astonished at our ignorance and stupidity.

[@enolp]

@@dakotah9636 exactly my thoughts

[@smokugoku]

Literally everyone who has watched one (1) video about the history of corseting knows most if not all corsets were fairly normal and comfortable to wear, if it felt tight or restricting that was because they weren't tailored correctly. Bug it's not something like feet-binding that actually had to deal with the oppression of women, even men wore corsets and they were very common. That tight, stiff, unbreathable corset you see in movies is just Hollywood being Hollywood :/ Unfortunately actors and actresses like to also dramaticize the idea of corset wearing as well (cough cough beauty and the beast remake cough) which is just dissapointing. To spread misinformation about such a commonly worn thing for no reason is upsetting but yeet savage dab lit

[@luciakasasova4789]

I feel like 100 years later there will be a historian talking about fillers and botox and plastic operations. Why we dont learn. Historia est Magistra Vitae.

[@ilahildasissac1943]

True.

[@SM-qv2om]

They'll be saying the same things about bras in 100 years as we are about corsets

[@ebunolaakinbiyi4020]

Exactly.

[@mistheesinghal4964]

Yeah!

[@curlyyasmin181]

Bald blind burnt and scarred. Every woman’s dream

[@THETalesFromTheAbyss]

Just the way I like them

[@justastrider3252]

@@THETalesFromTheAbyss hol up

[@anatoly86]

@@THETalesFromTheAbyss your name makes your comment 😂

[@grammarpolice2714]

@FootBob Excuse me what?

[@trinathompson5656]

More like nightmare

[@blehblehblehdracula]

It would’ve been amazing to have the emphasis on TIGHT LACING was the issue, not the corset in general as a rule. Corsets were not health hazards. Women were used to using them, so they would’ve been in significantly better shape than yourself.

[@kcblack3810]

I have asthma and I wear a corset and I have no trouble breathing when wearing a corset you breath differently you do take as many deep breaths as you do smaller breathes more often

[@StarWarsThrowbacks]

But you didn’t live in the victorian era

[@outoforder8791]

@@StarWarsThrowbacks Victorian corsets are considered to be superior to most modern ones. Especially when made to measure.

[@lilylime77]

same lol, I've been wearing my corset for 3 years because of my scoliosis. Even though I do breathe differently, it's not that big of a deal lol, I just breathe less with my stomach and more with my diaphragm.

[@maryjoyspohrer256]

THAT is the bit of information that I was looking for! As an asthmatic, I was wondering if it would even be possible for me to try to get one properly fitted for me at all.

[@jammie7822]

"You were regarded as a loose woman if you didn't wear your corset" MY STARS 😱 Not a Loose Woman™️--!

[@alinavaysfligel7249]

Jamie the shame! can you imagine??

[@kaylawuvscookies]

Those are the ones to keep your eye out for.

[@andyrevan]

Then I want to be as loose as a bat

[@eduardotorres7645]

they were regarded as loose women, by other women. similar today how girls slut shame. crab mentality

[@Abznth]

don't say my stars

[@wistaire]

"spending hours in the morning getting into my corset-" Spoilers, if it takes you hours- you're doing it wrong lol. Can we get some of the wonderful ladies from the historical costuming community in here? Lots of myths and exaggeration in this video...

[@aboutfeddy]

YES! Agree!!!

[@swilson5320]

I don’t know who to believe tbh

[@yiyoink]

Like anything these days, I'm sure many people did not know how to fit into a corset. Of course not everyone in Victorian times wore a tight corset, and they were probably the ones using them correctly. It's society that dictates what is right and wrong...

[@melissarosson9983]

They definitely laced her too tight and/or put her in a drastically ill fitted corset for her to have that reaction. I’ve worn corsets for theatre for years while I sing and dance and NEVER felt like I was about to pass out. In fact I have better breath support when I wear it rather than without. Think about all the opera singers out there, it takes a LOT of breath to hit high notes (I know because I’m a true soprano) if their breathing was as restricted as they are trying to have you believe then there’s no way that you would have any Sopranos in opera.

[@melissarosson9983]

Not only that, they had so much padding to fake curves as well. So if you pad out your hips and bust a ton then any waist is going to look small. It’s all about perspective.

[@dumbtm2140]

The reason she’s is lightheaded is because 1. Not trained enough for wearing a corset. 2. Corsets are specially made for the wearer. Edit: umm.. ppls are arguing in the comment about this, and Yes, corsets do restrain SOME breathing. But not all the time, it really only matters of the type of “corset” or garnet that works similar to one, and how tight they lace it. To popular belief, that corsets are just death machines made to kill slowly, No, they are not, they are a garment wore from the “teen”- 00’s to today, and if worn correctly and was tailored to the person. And you understand how to wear one, it wont be that much of a problem to breath. Yeah sure there’s cases of people fainting, scrambled organs, and dying from them, BUT that’s very rare to happen. They only happen if your not wearing the garment right, and not taking it off after 8+ hours of wearing it, this also goes for a lot of things in this time too. Also, sometimes its not even from the corset, it could be from using products, eating a lot while in it, not having a good breathing technique, there are a lot of variables with wearing them. Just be repaired and educated to wear one. I hope this clears some things... Edit2: also, with Breathing tactics and techniques, like everything else you have to know how to breath in a corset or, anything tightfitting. This is not news to most, but in any sports, singing, or just anything that’s includes tight big breaths of breathing. You have to train, or practice for it. I’m not a dress historian, or a breathing coach, this should just be basic knowledge to many. No duh 🙄, they take some breathing away but not most, some tight lacets are at like 80% compacity in their lungs/stomach, they can still breath enough to live throughout the day and life. It.not.that.hard. And PLEASE DONT LACE YOUR !FIRST! TIME TRYING A CORSET TIGHTLY OMMG!! PLS DONT. It’s not going to end well, your going to mess up yourself if you do. Along with Halloween coming, please for the love of gød DONT TIGHT LACE ON YOUR FIRST TRY!!?! And don’t fight with each other, debating I get it, but don’t bash other ppls. It rude, y’a know.

[@theereriotaku1790]

@@savannah7683 only if not fitted and gotten used to correctly

[@zexycakes]

@@savannah7683 do you...do you breathe using your stomach? I breathe easier in a corset than without -- when you're wearing one that's fitted correctly it actually supports the diaphragm very nicely.

[@raenia3655]

JCanaan Draws! Breathing with your stomach is actually the right way, it gets more oxygen in the lungs and it’s the first thing you learn when you become an athlete. 😐

[@zexycakes]

@@raenia3655 weird bc as a singer I was taught to breathe from the diaphragm. Regardless, corsets when worn properly don't really impede breathing

[@raenia3655]

@@zexycakes Although singing and althetics are two different things with different methods-

[@agagugu550]

the way they're trying to convince us that corsets were a killing device by drawn pictures. DRAWN. PICTURES.

[@tinymax1549]

Theres a difference between tight lacing and a normal corset fit...

[@ms_it_is]

Like a _big_ difference

[@AlicePDaly]

And they made this clear. They specifically said tight lacing, that it was unusual and that her test was not tightlaced

[@yelloworange3125]

@@AlicePDaly her test was, and you can tell because it “squeezed the air out of her lungs” corsets don’t do that

[@AlicePDaly]

@@yelloworange3125 you have to train to get real tight lacing. Her test was tight, corsets are tight to give a strong support. That doesn't mean "tight lacing"

[@yelloworange3125]

@@AlicePDaly I wear corsets. No matter if it’s the first time wearing it or the last, you never feel it “take the air out” of you

[@lississeoh6949]

How can you get corsets so wrong? I recommend watching Bernadette Banner's and Karkona Zebrowska's Videos on corsets if you want to know the truth. What was depicted in this video is just what oppressing men of the Victorian era wanted us to think about corsets.

[@alexandrakate04]

Lol, i said the same thing

[@orchidsarepretty1422]

Thank you! There are so many bs comments here it’s absurd

[@cbld3012]

You watch Karkona Zebrowska’s to

[@adriannadaigle3123]

Yes!!! Thank you, these people in this vid did little or no research at all

[@emmavink]

You are all hilarious. These are all renowned academics and historians. They work with existing, peer reviewed data. They very clearly say that a minority of people tight-laced. Get over yourselves ffs 🤦‍♀️

[@kizzy2874]

so Elizabeth fainting in pirates of the Caribbean was quite accurate lol.

[@danynes4710]

Kiera M. Smith pretty accurate too. I hate it when women in movies faint with the hand on their forehead and they daintily fall over. Elizabeth’s fainting was actually fairly accurate.

[@flibbertygibbet]

Except Pirates of the Caribbean was set in the early 1700s when the corset was different. It was a very different shape to the Victorian corset. There's a pretty good Wikipedia article on the history of the corset and in it you will see the difference. In the video above they are talking about the corset from the late 1800's at the 3:13 mark, the narrator says "In the 1860's and 70's, corsetry became increasingly extreme." So that is the period they are talking about. I've worn corsets from both periods and I have to say I find the earlier corset to be more comfortable and easier to move in. Both types are about shaping the body to an ideal but I'll take the ideal of the 1700 and early 1800s over the Victorian Ideal

[@danynes4710]

flibbertygibbet that’s pretty cool. Thanks for the information.

[@emilygreen6159]

On top of that, even in the 1860's tight lacing wasn't concidered a healthy thing to do. It was very rare to see someone with such a small waist and infact you can see where photos have been ultered. check out Bernidette Banners video and Karolina Zebrowska's videos.

[@Meggsie]

Objection: Suzannah's test corset was not as tight as Victorian- they only did enough to show the negative effects without putting her at unnecessary risk.

[@arielgalles2107]

Victorian: Oh no! I died from putting poison on my face Millennial: Oh no! I got melanoma from a tanning bed

[@SuperWhatapain]

Very accurate!

[@iwillsueminyoongibecausehe8825]

the only truth in this video some make up is actually poisonous.

[@maryjoyspohrer256]

It's always something!

[@solomonrivers4204]

“I can see why they did it. My waist is 24 inches!” “....24 3/4...”

[@josy6364]

If I calculated correctly my normal waist is 23 Inches It is about 60 cm without wearing a corset or anything just my normal waist measurements.

[@mimiisabooknerd]

Lol she was basically like NOT SO FAST

[@samanthamari3376]

That women had or ready have a thin waist lol🤔

[@gay_3815]

I died at that pert idek why

[@ericamaese5340]

That corset lady is that one person who always needs to be right... Even if it's only by 3/4s of an inch

[@moonkitty5274]

Corsets were very rarely killers; of course, when it came to tight lacing, it was very dangerous to the woman's health, however, this practice was very rare and only found really among the higher classes who didn't have to work. Most corsets were and are designed to be quite comfortable because it was more practical for when a woman was working or taking part in a lot of activities. Corsets helped to support the chest and hips under the mass of clothes and before bras were invented and also helped with posture- they were slightly cinched in at the waste, beauty standards at the time, but not nearly as drastic as you see in films and televisions (and probably this documentary- lower classed woman would have got nothing done in the corset she was wearing). Corsets killing women, while slightly true with tight lacing, is a complete myth.

[@freya_the_rat6555]

Are they aware of the fact that the women were drawn thinner in magazines or paintings to appear prettier?

[@creepydude94]

the specialists are like "tight-lacing was actually really rare tho" yet this entire time the show is going AND THUS CORSETS WERE DANGEROUS!! Some people wear gogo heels and may have broken ankles because of it, doesn't mean you need to dedicate an entire segment to the risk caused by mordern shoes.

[@savannah7683]

Omg get off of this video ur a boy

[@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto]

@@savannah7683 but boys wore corsets or rather stays but that's beside the point

[@SM-qv2om]

@@savannah7683 so? they're not wrong, and besides men wore corsets too

[@CassidyStarke]

The video was ONLY about the women that did it to the extreme. They’re not saying every corset every is gonna kill you.

[@ummfulann]

Corsets then waist trainers now 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@RizzlessN]

They aint that bad none of em fit me

[@yandoomybabe2789]

That beauty ideal has come back but now it's updated 😂

[@kates3853]

Thought the same damn thing

[@Sapphificationable]

But we have a choice of what to wear at least

[@jimmywoo7875]

@Jessica Geary Big Mac

[@emilyanderson6123]

Corsets were like bras. I hate how this video seems to make out all corset wearers to be tight lacing (only a minority did). Corsets on the most part don’t affect your breath support as long as you’re wearing them properly and have the right size. As long as you’re not running marathons, you should be fine.

[@rayjeancampbell3276]

The video is speaking about people in that time, and what they are saying is true, the corset thing to them was no joke, I think that is just us nowadays don't really care about the corset wearing so much. We have other ways to look good🤷

[@yorukaadams940]

Ofc corsets were no joke, you relied on them to support all the layers of clothing you wore. Take Emma Watson, whose dress in Beauty and the Beast was utterly disappointing because the lack of a corset meant she couldn't wear a decent ballgown (then again, the term "corset" here is a lil broad).

[@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto]

On that note, while I didn't attempt to run a marathon or anything, I was capable of lifting two children above my head at once (30 kg) while wearing fully boned 1630s stays with ease - it was actually easier to do. Corsets were no joke, as they were a great form of breast support. majority of the "small waists" was actually achieved by padding. Upper class people like Sissi were a rarity, and despite her insane tightlacing she was able to do a LOT of stuff like riding ect.

[@ilahildasissac1943]

The same with girdles, you have to wear the right size.

[@devyanibirbaliseswagatam1279]

Bras are also uncomfortable dude

[@berrii4702]

Victorians: *wears 5 undergarments before getting into the outer layer* Gen z ppl who are too lazy to put their underwear on : 👁👄👁

[@fiamumuser]

OH GOD XD

[@devyanibirbaliseswagatam1279]

🤣🤣🤣

[@izzygrace1040]

WHY IS THAT SO ACCURATE!

[@beomgyusparrot6023]

Oof this is so true 🤣😂

[@leahsuzaine5001]

So true😂😂😂

[@LadyBirdieBop]

I’m literally two minutes into this video and already I’m seeing the typical “corsets are dangerous and confining!!” drivel. If that’s not what you’re trying to say (and therefore speak truthfully about corsets...which it appears you are not doing), then kindly do some research.

[@bry-ony]

Their talking about the ones in the victorian times stop being so radgy lmaooo

[@rebeccaamberwhitemoon6512]

@@bry-ony please go take a look at Bernadette banner or Morgan donner or any of the historical costume/dress community here on KZbin

[@jenana6882]

@@bry-ony corsets haven’t changed at all though😂

[@AA-hy6nb]

@tzukinohime3 Your behaviour is both rude&ignorant. The host of this program is a respected academic&historian. She has done more serious research for this program, than you have done in your entire life. How can you judge a program after - your own words - "two minutes" watching? And not only this highly respected historian carried her own comprehensive research,- there are several doctors in this program, who prove with the help of medical equipment, how bad the corsets are, even when they are not too small and not tightly laced. Go back to the classroom!

[@mad4hats797]

They literally said what caused the issue was because it didn’t stop women from tightening it too much. It has no metal bar.

[@thespia]

I love corsets. They make the period clothing look and feel right. When they fit properly, they are wonderful. None of this "cages" nonsense.

[@thinmints4life]

THANK YOU

[@rmrsgirl]

No wonder the anniversary or birthday gift in the ‘50’s by men to women were always household appliances!!! “Yes, dear, I prefer you LIVE while taking care of us.”

[@sammi_wammy]

As a girl, this makes me really uncomfortable.

[@chaotic-goodartistry3903]

Should only make you feel uncomfortable if you plan on wearing ill-fitting corsets much too tight for practical use. Tightlacing wasn’t even seen as a favorable thing, they viewed it like how many women who get lip fillers or Botox are seen nowadays, excessive.

[@breeinatree4811]

This video is total BS. I wear a corset and find it very comfortable. Many women are going back to wearing corsets once they try a properly fitted one. It sure beats the heck out of a bra.

[@06lilweezy1991]

I feel like I can’t breathe just watching this 😅

[@atmywhitson]

Same here! 😳

[@nataliaaacolt1697]

ikrr

[@batoulassad6273]

I was holding my breath and I exhaled when I saw your comment lol.

[@celiwhaaat6285]

This wasn’t a good representation of the use of corsets actually.. if you want to know more check out videos by Karolina Zebrowska or Bernadette Banner who are dress historians and wear vintage clothing including corsets..

[@petabrodie9050]

Omg I felt the same feeling!

[@lindsaywendl7878]

Corsets only cause problems when u tight lace not many people had waists as tiny as they are in the pictures most women only used it for support

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

also they would paint over the pictures to make their waist seem smaller if you zoom in you can see the messy paint work

[@CassidyStarke]

Those obviously aren pictures they’re illustrations. She even said that they did that because no women could look like that in real life.

[@m.ccheddarbox874]

Omg.. You already have trouble breathing when you're pregnant and add one on top of that.. Crazy. I will never complain about my bra again.

[@YourGraceMyLady]

M.C CheddarBox right? This is almost painful to watch.

[@gothicavictoria1341]

Corsets were never nearly as uncomfortable as Hollywood makes them out to be. Corsets were tightened to a fairly comfortable level and tight-lacing was rare, often seen as vain and frivolous. The tiny waists seen in pictures is often an illusion. Large skirts, ballooning sleeves, and extremely decorative necklines made the waist look smaller. Corsets were worn by pretty much every woman of the period, even the working class. From the 1860's and onwards through to the 1900's, women were included in sports like biking, hiking, tennis, swimming, and croquet, that doesn't even include the manual and factory labor performed by the majority of women of the day. Corsets were built to support the body and the dress; they were not torture devices. They only seem painful because most women living in the 21st century are used to loose-fitting clothing. Corseting is comfortable once you get used to it.

[@JohnDoe-vw4zf]

@Emily Barclay I'm sorry but explain how they are different now?

[@orchidsarepretty1422]

M P corsets aren’t awful!! Honestly I give up with this comment section and all the bs myths

[@marissajones2945]

But the bra industry is a mess too! I hate bra’s!

[@jelliebean770]

notice how all the experts say “tight corset” or “tight laced corset”. the reason that the host is having trouble breathing while “not even being tight laced” is because this corset hasn’t been made for her body type or measurements. when i wear my victorian era style corset, i can breathe like i normally would even while running up steep hills. it’s all about the fit and the lacing.

[@MDaggatt]

my favorite part is where they have the corset expert show them the corsets but don't actually let her talk about corsets and instead have historians who have never researched corsets before now lie about what they were like :/

[@AshleesBathroom]

I wear corsets, just not too tight. Tight enough that it wont slip off, but loose enough that I can breathe and I'm not in pain. It helps with my bad back, posture, and anxiety. It kinda feels like I'm being hugged. But corsets are not for everyone.

[@simonmorris3964]

Modern day hidden killers would be ex husband or ex partner anytime after she tells him it’s over but before the property settlement.

[@mykilpee]

I've got some exes like that, 5 drinks later and her trying to settle things by cussing me out and calling me names I'm ok. What's funny is I want someone between us not her...

[@limebean]

No one: Actresses putting on corsets: I actually died

[@Anntrix]

"And they had to resurrect me" xD

[@lexiehuselton1145]

I love wearing a corset but then I've never done tight lacing. A well fitted corset gives support and form and should never cause a shortness of breath of be painful. It's true now as then. Not that many right laced.

[@theendisnearhd8045]

Actually, getting ready back then was faster than we think , also women chose to where corsets because it was fashionable and worked as a bra , men where the ones that fabricated the whole anticorset movement because the industry was supported and actually ruled by women

[@candycane1921]

Makeup is still the same.....you can’t trust manufacturers. Waist trainers are less extreme, but still being used. There’s still a lot of pressure on women!

[@annika4942]

Women are incredibly lazy these days. You really can't say that. How many women do we do walking around in pajamas and shorts? They care very little of themselves

[@candycane1921]

I'm referring to toxic chemicals that are still being used in a large amount of beauty products. I see beautifully dressed women all the time...... I disagree with you on that one.

[@bruh-mb1rd]

@@annika4942 wearing comfortable clothes makes you lazy? ok

[@annika4942]

@@bruh-mb1rd dresses and skirts are extraordinarily comfortable.

[@cllk115]

@@annika4942 Not when you live in a wet, cold and windy country, I'll put on my dress only to have it fly up when a gust of wind comes round, not practical for everyone.

[@FrauMase]

I wear a corset everyday. I clean house and play with my kids! My corset fits me properly!!!!

[@a.w.3772]

Just curious: why? How's a corset beneficial to you?

[@maryjoyspohrer256]

@Katie Leon That's what I've heard. It seems to me that it's the gals that went too far and laced them too tight, or in the worst cases, had ribs removed to lace them tighter, are the ones that got into trouble.

[@lawrencescales9864]

NOOOO. No. Okay. This is bullshit, sorry. Corsets did not get that small, and policing women for making (successful) corset selling businesses with peusdo science crap was a solid way for a mostly male dominated industrial society to tamp out female business owners. Acting like corsets are deadly and anti female is just... ugh, it plays right into that. It ignores a much more interesting and complicated history and ignores a lot of women in fashion of the time. The tight lacing scenes in movies are made up, most people did NOT tight lace, and working women worn corsets because /it was underwear/ you wore above a chemise and other layers. While plenty of studio photos show people with tiny teeny waists- street photos show a different story. These unedited (yes, people edited photos back then... how do you think we got photoshop, they manipulated, airbrushed and painted on photos back then, including giving women tiny waists) show women with pretty normal body proportions walking down the street. I studied textiles and work in history. This shit infuriated me to no end. It’s historically inaccurate and paints women in history with broad strokes. Corsets went out of style (gradually) because the profile of clothing changed to suit new trends and lifestyles. Fashion became younger and more commercial. Corsets where tailored incredibly well, not to be painful, and worn with lots of padding, cages, etc to make the waist look smaller and smoother. The clothing was more restrictive and was heavy, but it wasn’t killing people. If it did working class women would not be wearing them, and they wouldn’t have lasted so long with little issue to “suddenly” be killing women. A lot of bullshit hurt women in history. This was not one of them.

[@lauradubosque9269]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@CassidyStarke]

@@E.Gabora-rg8ge Wearing them too tight obviously, that was the point of the whole video🤦🏽‍♀️. Man ya’ll are so slow.

[@sumitgarai8538]

@@E.Gabora-rg8ge Not everyone had the privilege of having an extremely well made and fitting corset. What they most probably had to wear was mass produced corsets which were ill fitting and injurious to health ...

[@sumitgarai8538]

@@E.Gabora-rg8ge I see, thanks for the insight ... so there people who either wore very well made corsets or didn't wear any? I was also curious about the practice of tight-lacing. Was that not common? From what I've read, I gathered that it was pretty common for parents to force their adolescent kids to extremely tight-lace it and even wear to sleep in some cases ...

[@carmencunningham8467]

@Korah Stoddard just relax dude

[@opnwndo]

Green dye was made with arsenic for the wall paper, it gave off toxic gas

[@OfftheWallTales]

There is an older video about the hazards in the Victorian home that explained this really well, including how green dye was used in a lot more than wall paper (such as furniture), and how it affected people. EDIT: Watching this, I'm realizing this is actually created from old clips. So if you watch older episodes, you'll probably see some of these repeated.

[@Saucyakld]

Scary! Like putting lead powder on your face

[@aurabenton4030]

You would never lace down 4 inches your first time! You season your corset which basically molds your corset to your body on top of it being a custom made corset. A brand new corset has to be seasoned 3-4 hours over a period of weeks to be able to wear it for longer periods. It’s like breaking in your shoes. Even then, you don’t tight lace in the Victorian era. I am able to workout in my corset and it helps retain a straight posture so I don’t throw my back out.

[@beautynova28]

Lol that corset was way too small for her, that’s why the announcer couldn’t breathe. Now go watch @KarolinaZebrowska to actually learn about historic corsets.

[@k.morningstar7983]

she also wore it over clothing while, i believe, she was also wearing a bra

[@staceyme1480]

And now do the tests on a woman who's used to wearing a tailored corset as the women were back then. Stop scaring people from corset wearing. There is far more historical evidence of how good and comfortable they actually are. And plenty of youtube vids of people wearing them for a longer period of time.

[@Fiz4028]

It’s the corsets back then not now, you really didn’t get the point of the video they even gave tips if you’d like to wear corsets.

[@rayjeancampbell3276]

Yup, this is just about people's toxic views of beauty back then and what they had to do to be beautiful, ion think they're tryna scare people from wearing corsets tho

[@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto]

@@Fiz4028 but... historical corsets are perfectly chill? actually better than modern ones in many ways

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

@@rayjeancampbell3276 I saw one on Amazon where it smelled like chemicals and gave people really REALLY bad rashes for several days! I'd imagine the most expensive ones are better.

[@CassidyStarke]

@@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto NOT if you wear them as tight as some of the women back then did.

[@shadow_knight_2245]

I have a friend who needed a plastic corset for 5 years because of scoliosis and shes fine. Not to mention if you really look at a Victorian corset they already had the hour gals shape and you padded the bust and hips for more shape and to help with the illusion of a tiny waist. edit: if this sounds hateful/mean, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to sound that way

[@luante1246]

The Victorians had like corsets made out of bones and they would have had to tie it really tight the corsets nower days I think corsets are a little bit more safe they were used to help but it still wasn't safe the corset your friend had probably is ten right size but the corsets the Victorians wore might of been small

[@shadow_knight_2245]

Tight lacing was just as shocking as it is now if u look at any Victorian corset the shape is built in to the corset so you just had to pad the bust and hips for extra shape

[@kittylikes7972]

The liver with the rib print 😤

[@alicekara4662]

One thing that they forgot to mention was that tight lacing was VERY, VERY RARE. There aren’t many cases of it, ever. While dying from corsetry is possible, it’s very rare. The only reasons it was so talked about was 1. Because it surprised most people, seeing as they knew about the repercusiones, and 2. When women started fitting for the right to vote, some men resorted to shaming them for wearing corsets (it was a woman owned industry) to belittle them.

[@avourrito1819]

The corset collector actually said it. She said "Tight-lacing was a minority of people did back then" but of course they emphasize it being a majority instead

[@CassidyStarke]

@@avourrito1819 No they empathize it because that was the point of the video. The show why some women did it and what the effects on the body were.

[@meRguitarLUVR]

Anyone else loving the jewelry she is wearing at 14:20??

[@Mro183]

I love the historian with the red/ginger hair! Her voice and just whole demeanour is so enchanting and mysterious! Love our presenter always too argh best series!!

[@kelsanthemum]

What's with the title of this video referencing Bridgerton? In the Regency era women wouldn't even be wearing corsets... they'd be wearing stays.

[@ingridaguero6460]

I used to work at Amazon and I would work in a corset. It did wonders for my poster and muscles that were throbbing after the day. when I wasn't wearing the corset my back hurt, legs, and shoulders would hurt for days. I even got a sore something somewhere on my ribs. but on the days where I did wear the corset, my back aches were less, my shoulders would only hurt for 2 hours, and my legs, well they hurt no matter what. So I don't know what kind of corset she was wearing, but the one I wore didn't hinder my breathing or anything.

[@Just.a.person59]

Ummmmm, All of the examples you are provided are of woman who were woman wealthy. It was pretty common for woman to pad their busts and hips to give the appearance of being corseted. People need to remember that most woman worked “not at a desk” couldn’t be corseted so tight. The problems of being wealthy.

[@Just.a.person59]

April M I agree, the problems they have they largely create for them selfs. Whether it’s white skin “by any means” like lead white, arsenic green, red mercury, or ridiculous body shapes “very relevant today”. Their problems are largely created by them selfs. They are the architects of their own undoing and we’re stupid enough to follow.

[@user-ix1mi3ji6l]

YES! Not to mention that some of the actual pictures from the edwardian era are ''edited'' with the help of something like a black dress over a white background, editing the actual photo was easy. Now, it's true that tight corsetting was a thing, but it was mainly reserved for special occasions, not for everyday wear. I would actually wear a corset made after the pattern of a victorian era corset, not necessarily for the waistline it offers, but for support and good posture, especially since I find myself sitting with a bad posture even as I write this reply =)) When you take all this into consideration, they weren't nearly as bad as they make it look, but I guess it's all exaggerated for the purposes of this specific video.

[@shuepsx652]

It is said that only a minority of women did tight lacing

[@jimmywoo7875]

@April M can i have some money?

[@jayamilapersson4030]

That fact that the extreme versions of allterations of the body are only seen in ppl with money, Plastic surgery and other operations/ injections cost a lot.

[@Nanalikeschips]

I feel like the Corset Thing was Just like *If* I was used to wearing leggings and all the sudden I move on to Jeans....I would not be...Comfortable....i think that they simply got more and more comfortable while wearing these each day of their lives..... Although YES, corsets are Way more dangerous than jeans....idk why I compared the two... Edit: lmao Corsets are not dangerous (the more you know)

[@thinmints4life]

yup corsets aren't dangerous unless you wear it and it doesn't fit you or if you tight lace it

[@mintiistrqwberri5483]

Agree

[@emilinebelle7811]

Omg the liver! Eek! No wonder women are portrayed as faint in older films! Their organs are being crushed!

[@kyliepechler]

They also believe that a lot of early term miscarriages were the result of wearing corsets before they knew for sure that they were pregnant.

[@salemwitchchild]

Your organs are designed to move. It's no more movement than what happens during pregnancy.

[@emilinebelle7811]

Salem WitchChild I feel like my body choosing to make room and my choice to crush it are mildly different. Love your profile name! )O(

[@salemwitchchild]

@@emilinebelle7811 Thanks. It's really not different. Your organs are coated with interstitial fluid. This allows them to slide against each other without friction.

[@emilinebelle7811]

Salem WitchChild well I’m not a doctor. I just don’t know if it’s the same thing. ‘Specially if it’s true that girls were made to start wearing them during puberty. Just dunno.

[@ellentaulbut9474]

Another problem with this video is that they have renamed it so it includes "in the bridgerton era". No. Just no. Bridgerton is set in 1813, they were not wearing hour glass corsets. They would be wearing transitional stays/corsets that had no need to be tightlaced because the silhouete of the time (the empire waist) came just under the breasts far from the natural waist.

[@aubreytalley650]

Literally that made me so mad

[@mariahzeh9405]

I mean I’d rather a corset over underwire bras. Mostly bc of the chemise underneath it. Side note: Bernadette Banner has down a video about how she grew up in a corset bc of a curved spine. It’s super informative.

[@velvetandverain]

Love her channel!

[@CailinRuaAnChead]

In winter I wear a tank top under my bra and a sweater over that. It's so so so much more comfortable with a layer of soft fabric between my skin and the stabby bra

[@mariahzeh9405]

CailínRua I bet. Sometimes I’ll fold whatever shirt I’m wearing under my bra and it makes such a difference

[@CailinRuaAnChead]

@@mariahzeh9405 it really does. I used to wear corsets too and they're super comfortable if they're laced properly (they do hurt if they're laced up to be too tight /too loose though)

[@mariahzeh9405]

CailínRua I haven’t been able to try a corset but yeah. Tight lacing wasn’t ever actually popular. Especially for the working clasd

[@MistressKarma6969]

Guess they would just call me a loose woman😂😂 screw that

[@theresapickett2178]

😂😂😂😂

[@Crab_Shanty]

By jove, the poor woman's in hysterics!

[@savannah7683]

I havnt worn a bra in like a month lmfao

[@workadayadventures]

I used to wear a Real steel boned Corset every day to work, that my husband would tight lace for me. Moved 49lb batteries around all day, up and down ladders, installing vehicle parts... And yet I never once had the slightest trouble breathing 🙄

[@annekearns9123]

Why’d u wear it? Do u also wear a bra? Maybe when I’m older I might wear one but only if it’s comfy. Hoensty I don’t like the hourglass shape cause it doesn’t look balance but if it’s comfy I would wear it

[@sam5.183]

@@annekearns9123 corsets are for suport of the bust, so of you wear a good corset you don't need a bra

[@OfficialLuni]

Video: *starts* People who actually know how corsets work: could you be more wrong?

[@MissMaria1988]

Our English born queen Maud in the modern time in norway is known for her very small waistline. She used this too. The corsets now are very different. For health benefits, even some are used for handicapped people with feks scoliosis.

[@alexielshadowangel]

Honestly, corsets are NOT supposed to be uncomfortable! You're actually NOT supposed to lace them that tightly! The majority of women at the time had a 2-4 inch gap in the laces. Any who laced them this fucking tight as seen were a minority. I honestly think she was wearing it WRONG. It was not designed for her, the lacing was too tight, OF COURSE she suffered ill effects! I've worn a steel-boned corset while at a medieval/fantasy/renaissance faire. I had also used lock-lacing, NOT tight-lacing. I wore it for SEVERAL hours, around 6-7 ish, was doing A LOT of walking around. I did NOT feel out of breath one bit, no more than I would power walking without a corset. In fact, it actually felt GOOD to wear one! It fit me properly, helped support my back and posture, the snug pressure was nice too, and for those with bigger busts, they can support you in a way no modern bra does! Now what I HAVE noticed with corsets and who finds them uncomfortable and who doesn't... SKINNY PEOPLE ALWAYS SEEM TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM!!! Seriously. "curvy" "plus-sized" people who have double digit sizing seem to enjoy corsets! I'm a 2XL on average, and have a friend in a larger size and we found corsets to be VERY comfortable and made us feel really pretty! However, girls who are single digit sizes/XS find them to be uncomfortable. My theory is that fat is more malleable/squishy compared to your internal organs and the corset compresses the fat instead. I dunno, just a pattern I've noticed with corsets. Bigger, curvy, fat girls not only look AMAZING in them, but FEEL good too. Skinny girls, not so much.

[@dontletthemtakeourmaymays4690]

MaximalBlaze well skinnier girls don’t have the fat protection around their bones and organs. Which have maybe 3 inches of fat protecting them.

[@miriambucholtz9315]

And I thought bras with underwires were bad...

[@stefanaurora4958]

They are :). I gave up on them and use sport bras now. It's not fair to look perfect for a man with the cost of your self esteem and of your health or worse, of your life ...!

[@miriambucholtz9315]

@@stefanaurora4958 Fortunately, I think manufacturers are getting the message because I've seen more of a selection of bras without underwires lately. I don't dress for anyone other than myself.

[@kalilili]

underwires dont hurt if you use the right size cup and back size

[@miriambucholtz9315]

@@kalilili They do when the bra gets old and the wires bend. And if you don't have the money to keep buying new bras, that's what happens. Better to avoid wires in the first place.

[@robinfantley6782]

Miriam Bucholtz right

[@isabelladavis1913]

I swear to god if another person comments “the corset part is just incorrect” I’m going to go mad,they are looking at the more historic point of view when it came to the illustration of the corset

[@alliefry1924]

Imagine someday we are gonna be like the Victorian people to people in the future

[@quiverr5449]

"the stained their skin dark in a coffin shaped structure called the tanning bed, some people would even get skin cancer from it but people still kept doing it, *risking their lives* "