Abstract Art Mistakes You're Probably Making

[@andreacermanskipainting]

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[@sceppie0712]

The background music is disrurbing.

[@tkmdesign]

thanks for the great video! one of my issue is composition and making paint marks that all don't look the same.

[@traysea1967]

Great presentation, thank you for sharing!

[@patticriss2238]

Long time quilter and local professional quilter. This is all new for me, so going from one medium to one of many has been eye opening. But overwhelming. I also did hair for 25 year. A special colorist when I retired to quilt. I get color, but I feel like I have so many choices and abstract art makez makes me feel emotional. I want to be more neutral but it’s not my natural or first love. New development. I feel out of my depth. Deep breath and try again, tmrw. I’ve made hundreds of quilts. Quilted even more, hand and machine, but I’ve managed two paintings and three broken gelli plates. Back to canvas and paper. Does real life chaos make us like this? Your art, most of it, moves me. Ty.

[@patticriss2238]

I refuse to be “artsy”. I want to understand how to convey all of this emotion. Uggghh.

[@fredericapereira1615]

Thank you Andrea. Very pinpointed. Very precise. I use old bank cards, I love to spread paint with them. AS for lhe collage I love to press with my hands.

[@ShannonGibsonArtDesigns]

As an artist myself, this video is very useful. One of my main suggestions to my viewers is to do a warm up and let go, because if you're too rigid and think to much, it will hinder your creative process/expression. Thank you for sharing!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Great tip! Thanks for your comment ;)

[@AndreaHaughian]

I love using wax paper, placing paint on paper, scribbling into paint with brush end or nail and placing it on your piece like a stamping effect. I got the idea from an abstract painter ‘the danish painter’ it’s become a favourite way to add texture and layers!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

These are great techniques! Thanks for sharing!

[@susanmillar6554]

Thanks Andrea, I've watched lots of KZbin programs on abstract painting, but you have a talent for breaking key elements down without sounding pedantic. I'm going to watch your long program and I'll be back.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks so much for saying that! I appreciate it ;)

[@Flatshader]

This is the best video I have heard about creating an abstract painting….will now watch your free one hr video. Thanks. 😊

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks so much for saying that! Hope you enjoy the more in-depth version of this video!

[@shirleysavage9858]

The palette knife and sponges are my favorite tools for acrylic. I also use sponges and paper towels when I am doing watercolor abstracts. I will pull out my color theory book and actually read it now. Thank you for a very informative video. I look forward to watching the training video.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

All great tools. You are welcome!

[@SevillaILove]

Ive been fan of abstract art with a desire to make my own. Some art talent here. My grandmother was a savant with art first time she picked up a brush. My mom created beautiful paintings. I did some above average 11 y/o Bob Ross art as a kid *lol* and actually, realistic sculpture comes naturally. Some art classes. Always wanted to make big canvas abstracts but worry about spending lots of $$ only to make mud. I believe it'll come intuitively as other art has to me. But I am going to take your generous offering and watch your other tutorials. Happy I found your channel! Thank you!! Excited to learn some basics before I waste too much on trial and error $$ lessons! I have always believed abstract was not "easy" like people imagine and takes much knowledge to create that mystery. Already formulating visions!! ❤

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I am so glad to hear this, and I am happy you are going to start creating your visions!

[@davecameron5355]

Thank you for sharing your expertise. I found the tips really interesting and helpful. Certainly intend to refer back to this to help develop my painting.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Glad it was helpful! You are welcome!

[@johnmock1008]

Some very good pointers Andrea

[@ShirleyLaseter]

Very helpful! I’m a novice watercolorist at 76. I have discovered most of your points along the way, but your emphasis is so helpful.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I'm so glad to hear that

[@kimberlybaughan4289]

My tools of choice to use for my abstract paintings are my hands and fingers, combs , cardboard, plastic bags ,a lot of kitchen utensils. Thank you for your time.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Love it! Combs are a good one ;)

[@redmoondesignbeth9119]

When I was very small I decided I was going to be a Grandma Moses and paint when I was Old. When I saw Easy Rider at 18 with my future husband I can remember thinking..."I'd rather be in NM than married". So here I am at 72 in Santa Fe as a hobby artist doing abstractions. Looking back I feel my "detour" adds to my need to create. :) I will look for your work as I gallery hop this summer. Thank You for this info.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I love this story! When I was just out of college a man told me about the "artist communes" in Santa Fe. So I thought to myself, "If I'm not happy in my life I'm going to move to Santa Fe and be an artist". And then about 10 years later I made the move! You are welcome!

[@redmoondesignbeth9119]

@@andreacermanskipainting I've been in NM over 40 yr now. Second time in SF renting from Desi, Navajo/Laikota/15% Irish. Around the corner from The Pantry. It's an old neighborhood of people born here. I have a Secret Garden at the end of 4th. :)

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@redmoondesignbeth9119 I know exactly where it is! Good to see a local on my channel;)

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hey fellow Santa Fean, I wanted to invite you to my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@loisshukes8842]

My dream place

[@kasiako355]

Great tips, thank you! 💖

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks, and you're welcome!

[@M.Campbell]

Good video. It'll be news to many people that just because you paint in an abstract style that doesn't mean you get to ignore the things that make a realistic style painting good too. Balance, flow, focal points, color, composition and even perspective, are all things to keep in mind when you paint anything. I normally paint in a realistic, representational, style. Yet, when I wanted to understand what abstract art is about, I tried it. It gave me respect for the style, and respect for the accomplishments of good abstract artists. I believe that my exploration of abstract painting really helped my realistic art as well.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I couldn't agree with that more!

[@mariiris1403]

Please don't use background music. I just can't listen to this overloud of sounds.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks for the feedback. I will keep that in mind:)

[@karenann5090]

I’m with you!

[@Northumbergull]

Agreed. Good tips, but I struggled to hear the talk.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@Northumbergull ok thanks for the feedback.

[@RightofCenter]

Great help thanks for the video! I am painting an abstract lion today for the first time. All these tips are helping me

[@louisebendall2894]

Abstract work is a good way of relaxing and having a good laugh. The big mistake is thinking of selling. Forget it, just have fun. Make cheerful paper cards to send friends and cheer them up. We should all dance, sing and make marks, like our ancestors did.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Love this! Painting is so relaxing and gets us off of our devices. I totally celebrate this attitude!

[@lorieabraham272]

After taking quite a few classes on color theory, my last teacher recommended this book “ Color Choices by Stephen Quiller “ it brought it all home for me, the big aha moment… we already know so much, it’s that trying it all together… Thank you for reinforcing the Creative Journey is just that… push pull.. resistance / joy…

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I have that book! It was out of print for a while, so I'm glad you grabbed it. I visited his studio/gallery in Creede, CO last summer--I didn't even realize he lived there until I happened upon his space. Was great to see his work in person.

[@Freefolkcreate]

I love abstracting realistic forms, such as trees. I'm exploring all you are talking about here and it really makes it a journey, not just a destination. I think my biggest struggle is making up my mind when it comes to a composition. That takes time, practice, and study. Thank you for this 💖

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes it does! And sometimes I like to figure out the focal point as it emerges. In other words, I don't plan it from the beginning, but I see where the painting is going. Have fun on the journey!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hey @NarcArtTherapy, I wanted to invite you to my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@StephenHeigh]

I'm glad you said abstract painting is hard. I approach fine art painting of either realist work, impressionist or abstract painting from a designer's perspective. I was a professional graphic designer/illustrator for major companies in my design career of over forty years and I see everything in terms of effective composition and finished product. I was responsible for gaining multi-million-dollar contracts for companies I worked either fulltime or as a freelancer within design companies. I had to deliver at a high level. I also believe through much of my work in architectural and interior design renderings that I learned color well because I had to constantly match color selections and render surfaces in light and shadow. I'm sixty-three years old now and the one thing I know for sure is we are never done learning. It's a constant journey. I had success as a realist painter and was published in many books, magazines and so on in being there and done that. In recent years I started into abstract painting because I love the adventure and unpredictability of it which was somewhat by accident because of my varied interests in design. I'm a collector of vintage midcentury modern furnishings and grew up in household where my father was a design director for four major companies in his career. I was surrounded by that period my entire life and it just became part of me and a vocabulary. I started doing abstract paintings that were about color, composition and texture. I have found success in that as a painter. It feels good doing it and primarily at its core is design. I see equal value in all of it when it comes to how one approaches painting.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

What a great background to have for abstract painting! I think having a strong knowledge of these fundamentals is so important, and I bet your knowledge of architectural design adds a unique edge to your work. I agree that painting is a constant journey!

[@kymcrowart7876]

@@StephenHeigh this! Yes!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

:)

[@ECapitalE]

Your blouse is it's own work of art . Very pretty.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks!

[@vickim.851]

Value is right up there. As important as color or more so.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

YES! So many people just use mid-tones. Good add!

[@isabellenel6526]

Hi Andrea, thank you for this valuable information. I struggle with composition, but I keep trying.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You are welcome! Keep studying composition from artists you love, and try to incorporate those principles into your work. Just keep on keepin' on!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hey Isabelle, Since you like my instruction, I wanted to invite you to my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@lyndasilva8526]

Thank you Andrea! you are a great art teacher. My most challenging aspect of abstract painting is focal point.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes, that can be hard. Can you tell me more? Would love to help you!

[@lyndasilva8526]

Thank you, I tend to forget that there is supposed to be a focal point, sometimes I go into an overall pattern design. I think if I watch more of your videos I will get some new direction. I have an MFA in painting but none of my instructors were as clear as you in describing the approach to abstract painting. Also I did get to visit Santa Fe and I loved it ! felt sacred.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Wow, thanks for sharing that! It's on to have evenly spaced things in your painting so that they are all equally important. If that's your style go with it! I've seen many amazing paintings done that way. But if you want to break out, then maybe try rule of thirds and make the focal point big, bright, or contrasty compared to the rest.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I talk about focal point a whole lot in my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge that is happening next week, September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@MicheleEngel]

I'm self-taught, and I was having trouble with the concept of focal point at one point. I understood rule of thirds, but I still didn't understand HOW to make something the focal point other than placement. So I started looking at paintings with that exclusively in mind. When I saw a painting, I reminded myself just to mentally note what first caught my attention in it--and then look at the painting as a whole. That was my way of studying just that one element. It was quite helpful. But Ms. Cermanski is the first person I've ever heard spell out three specific methods to create a strong focal point. Truly a great teacher!❤

[@malikahealey8828]

Andrea, how wonderful to find you here. I rarely use a brush when I paint. Pallete knives, brayers, squeegees, plastic bags, crushed up paper, packing materials are my mainstay. I look forward to more of your videos. I can always learn more about composition. from Malika

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@malikahealey8828 and so good to see you on here too! I believe you were one of my very first students back in the day when I started the adult painting classes. Are you still doing mostly abstraction?

[@malikahealey8828]

@@andreacermanskipainting Only abstraction - went down the oil painting cold wax path for many years. Due to health concerns I am back to oil pastels but getting ready to try another wet medium with non toxic inks. Creativity never stops!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I hear you! I had to stop oil painting many years ago!

[@emmak8138]

I’m definitely struggling with colours and for me I would say I have a hard time toning the colours down in the right amount. How much white/black should I use etc and still get that feeling that I want from the painting. Guess studying colour theory is the way to go 🙈

[@Maranatha1927]

You're an excellent teacher!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks so much! Out of curiosity, what did you find most helpful?

[@SabinaGraf-cz2dm]

Very inspiring-very helpful! - very glad having found you! Will certainly make your course you mentioned! A propos other tools than brush: i use sponge, towel, spatula in every size, also kitchen tools.... 😊 sometimes news paper (stamp or/and remove color)....

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Awesome, thank you!

[@merrycmouse]

I struggle the most with composition and not so much color, but value contrasts

[@andreacermanskipainting]

What do you struggle with in value contrasts?

[@merrycmouse]

@@andreacermanskipainting , I find that I have a hard time pushing the dark and light contrast, everything seems to just wind up mid-tone. I also quilt and I'm able to do that with fabrics, but paint is a whole other thing. I just really struggle to not wind up with everything in the middle values.

[@merrycmouse]

Thinking about it a bit more, I think I struggle with placement, too. Not sure where to put the darks and lights.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

For you next painting I want you to pick three colors. Mix the first with mostly white paint, the second you can use as is, and the third mix a bit of black. So you should have one very light tint, one medium tone, and one dark. Then paint with those colors making sure you don't blend them too much. Let me know if that helps .

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Put the lights in your focal point areas, and the darks could be in your background.

[@ritzie3131]

I do not paint abstractly, although from time to time, I try it when I'm just "noodling around". I recently did one that I think came out very well. As you spoke here, I was looking at my painting to see if I made any of the mistakes you mention. I would attach a picture of it, but not sure how to do that. Anyway, I just signed up for your one-hour training. Always good to learn.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes, noodling around is a great way to start! And then it gets harder as you keep working, right, because you have to make sure it "works". Glad you are jumping on the training! Thanks for being here and your participation!

[@user-sz9vu3jd4rET]

I like to do a abstract painting , its nice to see it. Thank you.🎉🎉

[@andreacermanskipainting]

My pleasure 😊

[@MagneticOriginals]

I studied color theory years ago, but still use it every time I create. I do get into a meditative state and listen to music I love when I create. I use dozens of colors in my paintings. I paint with a shish kebab skewer and a chopstick. I paint primarily abstract expressions on magnetic vinyl. In 28 years of painting I’ve sold thousands of pieces. I still haven’t found other artists using my media in a similar fashion.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@MagneticOriginals That's awesome! Would love to see your work!

[@k8marlowe]

Great tips! Composition has been my biggest challenge, as I studied color theory while becoming a hairstylist years ago. Looking forward to learning more from you. Thanks so much!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@k8marlowe you are very welcome! I have a blog post called "composition is king.@ that might be helpful. Want me to link it here for you?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hey @k8marlowe, I wanted to invite you to my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@k8marlowe]

@@andreacermanskipainting Great! Thanks so much!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Sure thing!

[@boyfmbalcatta]

Just started, mud is my colour (🤣), i am an old man trying to have fun and learn. Some tools I use are a bottle wash brush, skewer stick, cotton buds. My biggest issue with abstract work is clarity of idea and how to express it. I understand it comes with practice and visualising! Thought/idea from mind to surface as intended is a goal. A work/s in progress.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@boyfmbalcatta A skewer stick is a great idea!

[@GeometryMatters]

LOL!😂 "Mud" can be beautiful, too! If it is intentional. Just the right shade of "mud"... There's textural mud, a wash of mud, a bit of mud marks, impasto mud...I am channeling my inner "Forrest Gump" (only not shrimp, but mud).

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@GeometryMatters Totally! I love the neutrals and semi-neutrals!

[@ElizabethHernandez-jj8on]

Keep painting, old man boy!!!!! Mud by Polly Chase Boyden Mud is very nice to feel All squishy-squash between the toes! I'd rather wade in wiggly mud Than smell a yellow rose. Nobody else but the rosebush knows How nice mud feels Between the toes.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Love this poem!

[@74the_magpie]

Great video, do you have classes for adults in your town? Composition is trippy, you answered my question.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes it is! And yes I do.

[@LSinclair]

You have a great channel! Just found you with this in my feed. I love your art, so rich and beautiful.. was just looking over some of your videos on your page. You’re going to be very informational for me i can tell. Thank you for being here!!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thank YOU for your comment and sharing that with me. I am very happy you are on my channel. I love teaching, so much more to come!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Since you love the channel, you might want to consider my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@nancymorgan5596]

Excellent information

[@pepperandthelittles5648]

We also need to put in the time. You will learn by just doing, everyday. Also, push ourselves past our comfort zone on a regular basis. Try as many things as possible. Finally, sometimes you need to paint over things you like because it doesn’t work. Trust your instincts.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I 100% agree! I paint over things A LOT! It's almost part of my process now. Continuing to paint is important, and also trying to change up what you do as we sometimes get stuck in a rut:)

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Based on your comment about following your instincts, I think you might enjoy my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@AudessaSiccardi]

Well done video! Good speed and valuable info. You had me for the entire 11+ minutes 😅 l also enjoyed the subtle background music.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks! So glad to hear that!

[@kaseyp2988]

I feel like I've heard all this advise before and I "think" I've adhered to it but my paintings are still "not there yet". They're getting better though... albeit slowly... thank you! I will try the one hour video...

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I'm so glad to hear that this was helpful!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@elsagrace3893 Whatcha talkin' about, Willis? I think you got confused and posted this comment on the wrong video, because I didn't say anything of the sort. lol.

[@SMessai]

Thank you for this video. Hit on key struggles that i have had ❤❤❤

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You're welcome, hope it helps!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Since you liked this video, I wanted to invite you to my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@ilikecontent2327]

Interesting tips. I don't share my work except to my local art mentors that are old pros at this. I am developing a unique style(I have always been a bit off beat) and I don't want it to all of a sudden start showing up on a You Tube program or on online art for sale. 😂 I don't remember ever having a problem creating art out of my imagination. I think it is fun! But I do concentrate on a focal point and having balance in my art. Lead the eye to where you want it to go... 😉 Colors! I love them! Layers? Yes please! 😊 And when I am not sure if it is done? I ask our 23 year old Son with the critical eye and if he says STOP! I listen. Then I step away for a few days and see if I am happy with the piece. Been doing art since I was a child. Work and life got in the way of focus in my art so here over the last few years I started back up b a little. Abstracts I first started doing in the last few m I months. I find them easier then realism. 🤷‍♀️

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Wonderful! It's nice you have someone who has a strong, critical eye. I think stopping way before you think it's done is also a good practice. And I like to hang it on the wall for a bit so I can see it in different light, etc. Have fun!

[@chardesostoa1983]

Thank you for this clear and insightful video!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You are very welcome!

[@linteresa35]

So helpful! Thank you I’ve subscribed 😊

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I'm so glad to hear that!

[@daudyusof5605]

Thank you very much for the generous tips

[@andreacermanskipainting]

My pleasure!

[@gillianperrett]

5 problems: mindset, colour, focal point, tools, layering... this sounds very useful.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Perfect! Glad you think so ;)

[@sphinxtheeminx]

I know the popular view of Picasso is that he was an innate genius but his father was a painter and renowned art teacher who taught his son how to paint from his earliest years. His father was also a curator at the local museum where Pablo would have seen many of the ethnographic objects he turned into Cubism. That said, I don't know where he got his misogyny from.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

This is all very true for Picasso. There's a great book I read many years ago about him, Martha Graham, and others who showed themselves to be prodigies at a young age. Yes, the misogyny was a real issue!

[@dianebassett1930]

@@andreacermanskipaintingdo you remember the name of that book?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes! Thanks for reminding me. It's "Creating Minds: An Anatomy of Creativity Seen Through the Lives of Freud, Einstein, Picasso, Stravinksy, Eliot, Graham, and Gandhi". It's old, from 1993, but amazing. It's on Amazon! a.co/d/a83o3XP

[@dottieeischen5001]

Thank you Andrea!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You are welcome!

[@nancymorgan5596]

Excellent advice.you really nailed it.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks so much for saying that! I'm passionate about the topic:)

[@RosssRoyce]

Such wonderful advises and the painting behind you so wrong 😝: having the biggest contrast et bottom right edge, having colors of equally rich chroma saturation everywhere, the choice of colors themselves….. But the one from the poster about the course is wonderful, including the brushstrokes and shades of grey as background to reacher spots.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You are only seeing a small section of both of those paintings. Glad you like the "advice."

[@RosssRoyce]

@@andreacermanskipainting ALL of the advises I like! About the painting: if it’s a portion only then I can’t have a full impression… It’s colors reminded me of what I used to do. Then one day I examined lots of Monet paintings and discovered that they were all nuances of grey with only the key spot having saturated pure colors. In my “mind” they were all so wonderful color wise that I put mostly pure colors and thought I’m going in that direction (but was producing sweet syrup 😝)……. Good luck

[@kaseyp2988]

I actually love the painting behind her! My number one rule is "if it works, then all other rules don't matter" No painitng is "wrong", it just doesn't work for you...

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@kaseyp2988 I agree:) Thanks.

[@deborahbuchanan3238]

To create any art takes courage and that includes non-abstract. To me, Kandinsky excluded of course, a lot of abstract work appears decorative and meaningless ( a mismash of shapes and colours). Also many people who take it up cannot draw or paint impactful images and start doing abstracts as an escape. You also said abstract art is harder which I don’t agree with. Let’s all just do what we want and enjoy the process💕

[@christopheralcantara4378]

Thank you, Good Advice.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You're welcome!

[@tonkamohr]

Thank you very much. Video is super!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Glad you liked it!

[@mariliaferraz9070]

Thank you.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You're welcome!

[@artist_work]

It's very difficult for me to start painting unless i am fully confident i can get through it. I keep looking at different tutorials before I begin.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hmm...how about you just give it a go. You may just keep making excuses and never start. You might find this tutorial helpful:kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZaTaH5mpM9pj68&lc=UgyL1HuNpiXtAt57VYN4AaABAg

[@gavinyates9189]

I always got the highest of scores in our class. But when I started my abstract journey it was the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life. To find my own voice style and technique was very difficult.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks for sharing. I totally understand that. When I go back to doing landscapes, I remember how much easier it is for me to have everything laid out already. For me it's nice to go back-and-forth between abstraction and representational . How about you? Are you doing all abstraction now?

[@gavinyates9189]

I have started geometric hard edged compositions and I have enjoyed it very much. It was different for me

[@gavinyates9189]

With layers less is more more or less. It's mainly knowing when to say when time and time again.

[@elisabethrice-taqieddin6361]

I have difficulty in knowing when to stop a painting. Is it intuitive?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Part intuitive and part knowing when you have achieved a balance of sorts. With abstraction, it's harder to know. One thing you can do is flip the painting in different directions and if the piece seems relatively balanced and works well in those directions, it's likely done. Over time you do develop knowing the "when it's done" muscle:)

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hey Elisabeth, Since you are struggling to know when your painting is finished, you might consider my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@jgyoungmdaic]

Great into to abstract painting. I have done hundreds of acrylic abstracts. But I don't get the vibrance I see in other's works. I wondered if it was the color, ie making mud, that is colors across the color wheel. But I find even with straight tube color it is dull. Perhaps

[@andreacermanskipainting]

What brand paints are you using?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I discuss color a lot in my upcoming FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@artbyshahin]

thank you for sharing 👏👏👏🙌

[@andreacermanskipainting]

My pleasure 😊

[@deemusch5170]

In santa fe painting, how to pop color I thought you lost some specific shapes that awsome. Overall, the painting is beautiful

[@andreacermanskipainting]

It's not done yet, so we'll see where it goes. Thanks!

[@saklan_territory]

Ultimately, are oils just better? I feel like they really are… especially for building layers and luminosity.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I don't think so. You can easily make luminous layers with acrylics mixed with glazing medium. And they dry so much faster. But it's up to you and what you like;)

[@saklan_territory]

@@andreacermanskipainting thanks for the reply. It's good to hear you think acrylics can achieve luminosity. I prefer acrylics because they are so much easier to work with in my limited space.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I prefer acrylics, too. And you can absolutely achieve luminosity! Just go for about 30% pigment and 70% medium and that will make a nice glaze.

[@TheDopamineDiaries-up7wk]

What can you do with the canvases that you have messed up?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I paint over them! What do you do right now with them?

[@Thedopaminediaries.]

Right now, stacking in a corner. I thought I could paint over but wasn’t sure. Thanks!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes, you can totally paint over them. And you don't have to Jess with them. Just go over them with one color so you're not starting from ground zero. Are you using acrylic or oil?

[@smoxart3408]

I am a representative painter/artist who struggles with letting go. My style is somewhat graphic and crisp and I would really like to be able to loosen up. I was a graphic designer for many years and have a lot of training and experience with colour theory and composition...but struggle with trying not to make an abstract painting "look like something" and I also struggle with keeping things loose and free. My tendency is to constantly try to smooth things over (a metaphor for my life???). I branched out with watercolours this winter, hoping to get looser, but still battled my desire for control...and tended to overwork the image and loose that spontaneity.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes that's a common issue for representational painters. I have a free e-book that gives five exercises to move from representational to abstract painting. Do You want me to give you a link to it?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

If you want to loosen up, you might want to consider joining my online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@patticriss2238]

I always tell folks when I’m stuck that, “we’re still negotiating”. Talking it out. Once I laugh, I can usually move forward in a short time.

[@jgyoungmdaic]

The color was too thin? Maybe not the best brand of color? Or maybe the gloss medium wasn't the best. But I do see some other artists have brilliance even better then oils. How do you do that?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

If you want very brilliant colors, Golden is the best acrylic brand, but it's expensive. They also make a gloss medium. You are sure to get brilliance with Golden, but if it's too spendy, Liquitex Professional is very good too. Nova color has high pigment concentration and is much more affordable :)

[@katieechols4491]

I can't get anything right. I start with an image in my head. And as soon as I start with my color. It changes in my head. I don't know what are why this happens

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Maybe try NOT to have an image in your head. Instead, just pretend you're a toddler and play. Move paint around and see what happens. And then look for some structure in the randomness. Another idea would be to use a reference image that you will abstract by either changing colors, forms, etc. Hope this helps!

[@katieechols4491]

@@andreacermanskipainting thank you. I haven't thought about that.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@katieechols4491 Yes, there are many ways to start an abstract painting. Give it a try!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hey Katie, Since you like my instruction, I wanted to invite you to my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@kakenetit2]

One of the biggest mistakes one can make is not first learning to paint in one or more of the many traditional painting styles to develop your own skills as an artist. Once you have achieved some level of confidence, and have gained a thorough understanding of color theory, form and composition, you could begin to experiment with abstraction and non-representational art forms.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I agree! It's so important to learn the foundations.

[@kimmuehle8771]

I have been teaching myself abstract art with pretty good results. But, my biggest block is I get to a certain point with many layers and then I get stuck and don’t know what to do next. I’m completely blocked! What is the next step rather then walking away for a period of time?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I think determining if you have a strong focal point OR if you have sufficient contrast. If you don't want to walk away, keep working until you do have a strong focal point or enough contrast.

[@nancytrimper1092]

I have a hard time naming what my paintings are of--it's hard to explain--I just like to look at the design or whatever it is but I cannot give it a name, it's not like a realistic one where you know what it is, but I prefer abstract art. Does it have to have a meaning?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I think what you are probably doing is non- representational ;)

[@annfitch2801]

Theme, I hear paint from feeling. Can't come up with either

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Interesting. What do you think is keeping you come up with them?

[@gaiar.d.rosendahl8300]

Nice vid!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks so much!

[@cindypenner4998]

Curious what medium you work in? Also would like to know how my email address will be used if i register for the 1 hour course.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I use mostly acrylic. The email subscribes you to my list so you can get the link about the class. You can unsubscribe at any time by scrolling to the bottom and pushing "unsubscribe".

[@cindypenner4998]

Thanks very much for your response.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@cindypenner4998 sure!

[@dianecharest8365]

But I don't understand something. Some people love that busy, chaotic kind of abstract. Which is what I love and it seems to be my style. I started about a year ago. I've been trying to understand color, value, composition, design, shapes, etc. I always tend to go with the same colors and im trying to make new marks. I haven't tried big marks and having a hard time blending. But I realized that I haven't played enough in my sketchbooks. My question is though, what about busy style?

[@andreacermanskipainting]

A busy style is great. Basquiat, DeKooning, and Pollock all had a "busy" style. Some people prefer busy, and others prefer more space in their work. It's a matter of preference!

[@dianecharest8365]

Ok. Thank you. I, myself love busy. But I'm trying so hard with the blending, quiet kind of style.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@dianecharest8365 Start with what you love to do. It will make painting more enjoyable. Later you can challenge yourself with the "quiet" style, but for now, there is some business in there that you need to get out!

[@dianecharest8365]

​@@andreacermanskipaintingthank you

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Sure thing!

[@Esmeralda-bg7qq]

another tool to make marks: a ravioli wheel, or patternmakers wheel. and for scratching use dental tools. squeegees or a trowel

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes! One of my students did a pizza cutter, but love the ravioli wheel! Great ideas :)

[@sandorkocso1798]

gianttttttttt window squeegee, cheap paint brushes i cut to an inch long bristles so it's great for dry brushing, card board pieces used like a wedge

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Card board pieces as a wedge is a great idea! I love the squeegees too!

[@artist_work]

I have beautiful visions of the piece i want to create but often i am unable to get that vision onto the canvas😢😢

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You know, I prefer to play and see what emerges. Try to let go of a pre-determined result, and instead play with techniques.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You might want to try my FREE online challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@saranevillerogueart9627]

Sometimes I paint a abstract usually focus on semi realist elements .

[@andreacermanskipainting]

That's a great idea. It's wonderful to abstract thins we can relate to.

[@YO3A007]

Paint, paint, paint. experiment, make mistakes, paint paint paint. Don't save your mistakes and gesso over it and paint again and again and again. Learn the forte, pianissimo of painting. Put your whole body into. Paint,Paint,Paint. And experiment!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes, yes and YES! I NEVER gesso over my pieces. Instead, I will go over it with one color with a dry brush technique so that I keep what's below.

[@RightofCenter]

I did my first abstract after watching your video today. I spent 2 and 1/2 hours on it. But I can’t show it to you on here…there is no way to send it

[@andreacermanskipainting]

How exciting! How about posting it to Facebook or Insta and I can take a look? Also, get on my email list so you can find out about free classes coming up!

[@BarbaraBordner]

You just told everyone to add a 😅. lot of layers and I just smiled since I have done and sold art of many mediums which I know is KNOW WHEN to S T O P.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Totally! It's so easy to overwork it!

[@Kerbeygrip]

The biggest problem for people making this type of art is that they do not understand the word “abstract”. It means taken away from something. Reducing the information and altering it to create the essence of the THE SUBJECT. So the first mistake is not observing a subject to make your abstraction from. You paint treeiness not trees for example. Art college for 4 years for training and knowledge might help. Anything else is just messing with paint.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

This is ONE way to paint abstractly, but not the only way. Hilma af Klint and Kandinsky, both considered the originators of abstract painting (that could be argued though!), painted non-representationally. Hilma was guided to paint by "angels" that spoke to her, Kandinsky was purposely trying to strip imagery. This is something a good art school would teach. Hence, abstract painting is not just trying to "abstract something" :)

[@kymcrowart7876]

@@andreacermanskipainting I’m standing and clapping! I also went to art school for many more than 4 years! I agree that abstraction can be done with or without representation, the subject can be an emotion…..and for it to be good you still need basic art 101….The elements of art. And to @Kerbeygrip….its all messing with paint in the beginning!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

@@kymcrowart7876 Absolutely! Did they teach abstraction at your school? It seems to be missing from many BFA programs .

[@carlaeskelsen]

​@@kymcrowart7876 - Standing and clapping with you, shoulder to virtual shoulder!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@carlaeskelsen]

Messing with paint is a totally legit way to form beautiful abstract art. Intuitive painting is a wonderful and productive journey, and provides very effective "editor repellent".

[@jackmorgan1531]

I disagree with using less colours. Why limit yourself.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

As long as the painting works no need to limit your colors.

[@mywifetheartist]

Great video but please don’t have music. Thanks. ❤❤❤

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Noted!

[@emmafreeman7740]

Colour is definitely my problme

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes, color is challenging! Check out this video where I teach about how to use color schemes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWi1m6OdarWJrZY

[@kaygilbert8773]

My abstracts are too busy to be pleasant!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Then what you might do is dry brush over the entire painting so you can still see the structure, and then pull out details again. Or maybe paint in some large opaque shapes that covers up some areas completely. Don't be scared to cover up what you did-it creates many wonderful layers!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Hey Kay, if you are struggling with how you make your abstract more pleasant, you might want to consider my FREE online abstract 4-day painting challenge from September 3-6, 2024. Here's the link if you want to join:) santafepaintingworkshops.com/abstract-floral-challenge-yt

[@corazonamada1845]

Thank you for the info but without a couple of visual examples of each point, it’s not very helpful info

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Thanks for the feedback! I'm always trying to improve my videos. All the best.

[@coz_DS]

There are ONLY a handful of true abstract fine artists on the planet. Although many of the ideas mentioned here are indeed valuable, so called "abstract" art is nothing more than a waste of paint and canvas. If you are excellent at color theory, also known as color composition, as well as the other compositional elements needed for a piece, putting brush to canvas does NOT make you an artist. We need to stop the "trend" that everything is art, and everyone can be an artist. That simply is not true.

[@shereebutton125]

💜

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Glad you like it!

[@kalakala10011]

Fear!

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Love!

[@nildacruz3521]

Do you have an email or probably an Instagram soni can send you one of my painting so you can tell me if it is a strong abstract.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Yes, @santafepaintingworkshops

[@malcolmharing3744]

I would say the painting behind you is made up of forms, not shapes. The values, shades and tints give them 3 dimensional form. Shapes are flat and two dimensional. 😃

[@andreacermanskipainting]

For sure! Sometimes I use both words loosely. Shapes are flat, and forms are shapes that are meant to NOT look flat. But forms are also actually 3-d (sculpture). Thanks for commenting!

[@malcolmharing3744]

​@andreacermanskipainting You're welcome! I often use the terms interchangeably as well. But I tried to catch myself from doing it when teaching the 7 Principles and 7 Elements in front of a class of eager-to-learn students. 😊

[@andreacermanskipainting]

You are exactly right! Good tip.

[@mjrewerts]

As a professional artist, I find it very naive and annoying when artists are knocking each other. All art is based on the same principles of design, color theory, etc., and if you know and apply those principles, you should have a good piece. You need to know the rules before you break them. Don’t knock realistic painting because you have to look beyond what your eyes see even as a realist and know how to interpret it. It’s the same decision making and requires the same critical thinking. There are those who can’t draw or don’t enjoy it, so they choose to do abstract.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

I wonder if you watched this video and listened carefully all the way through. I did not knock representational painting. This is to educate those who are uneducated about abstraction so I can help to put it in its rightful place. Representational painting does not have that issue because it's been the cannon for centuries. This video echoes what Kandinsky said about abstraction, "Of all the arts, abstract painting is the most difficult. It demands that you know how to draw well, that you have a heightened sensitivity for composition and for colors, and that you be a true poet. This last is essential."

[@marienitschke2321]

I love your message but also find the music too much to handle when listening to you.

[@marienitschke2321]

I think I'm making the mistakes with composition and focal point.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Noted!

[@homafattahi4073]

Excellent art education. However, your very colourful top is confusing to the viewer, becuase it cancels your instruction about colour theory- limiting the pallete to few colours! Thanks

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Ha! That's funny! I wore my colorful top purposely because it IS colorful. Anyway, hope you gained a lot from the lesson:)

[@quintocreations5091]

It's also really destructive to tell somebody they're making mistakes in their art There's no such thing as mistakes in true art. It's kind of arrogant to tell people they're making mistakes, don't you think? Maybe it's better to just give tips instead

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Not my intention at all! The title is to attract those who feel like they are not quite getting something right in their abstracts. If you watch the video you'll see I'm encouraging and full of tips.

[@ziondanny7081]

The mistake I'm making, along with 99% of KZbin "artists", is thinking I have any talent.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Why do you paint? If it's to have fun, then who cares?! But if you want to get better and develop talent, work on your skills.

[@martyclaybourn6494]

This is the type of art instruction I hate. Right ways and wrong ways. Art is however you want to make it. Most of us develop our own style based on what we like to look at, how we feel or how we express. I’ll just remind you of cubism and how that was derided at the time Picasso first produced it. Play with colour, shapes, marks and how they work and never trust anyone who whips out a colour wheel.

[@andreacermanskipainting]

Lol! I'm not your teacher then!