AC Joint Separation Recovery. Long-term progress update

[@mountainlessmtb9940]

Great video I made both my Ortho surgeon and physical therapist watch your recovery videos and asked a lot of questions both said you had great videos lol

[@TrailBreaker]

Thomas, I can't believe you did that! I'm trying to picture you guys sitting there watching my little videos :-) That's probably the best praise I've gotten on a video. Thanks!

[@mountainlessmtb9940]

@@TrailBreaker no problem ! I figured that your video would be the easiest thing for some of their clients to watch if they needed any help visualizing how to continue to work out at home or on their own after therapy was over

[@bps7267]

Oh man, everyone here unfortunately understands how much that fall must have hurt...

[@najaziz08]

I came off my bicycle 30 years ago exactly in the same circumstances as you and broke my collar bone. It healed and still looks slightly crooked but not a problem. Last week I came of my motorbike riding on sand and landed on my shoulder causing AC joint separation (level 3-4). I never felt any pain - still don’t. But I know the damage due to the bump on the shoulder and gap below clavicle. I learnt a lot more from your video here - more than my consultant was able to tell me. So “it will never heal” and bump will never go away. Oh well at least now I have matching shoulders - more or less 😂. Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@TrailBreaker]

You're welcome

[@rogerverano]

Hello everyone. I have a AC separation. I am able to do most things at about 3 weeks. I feel better and don't let it get you down that it is a bit of a permanent injury. It is just as cool as a scar. We are men and women of action. We will be right back on the road. Cheers guys and girls and we will see you soon. Mostly girls, I hope.

[@roycenez141]

What grade was yours?

[@kjmaster1]

I crashed 4 days ago. Same shoulder. Similar X ray. Same Kona process and same bell helmet. Diagnosed AC type 3. Your video just made me very calm.

[@TrailBreaker]

KJ Master I’m so sorry you got hurt. I never even heard of this injury until it happened to me. Then I found just how common it is in our sport. I’m very happy my videos helped give you some comfort. You WILL come back soon and you’ll learn from your experience 👊🏻👍🏻

[@TheAWallace1212]

Best video I’ve found so far. And I mean that after watching videos for last 10 days since my road bike crash crit racing. I have orthopedic apt in 3 days to get more info. Only difference for me is I’ve dislocated the same shoulder 3 times prior in my younger years. 41 years old now. Thanks for info!

[@geo_neo9]

Within infinity ♾ nothing is impossible. Energy can heal everything.

[@leanderhobb1446]

I crashed with my dirt bike going about 20 mph and landed on my right shoulder. Stage 5 separation. No surgery and got my range of motion back. I can sleep on my shoulder after about 6 weeks. Gonna work on building up my muscle around it. Was told I shouldn’t need surgery because I still had some strength and was able to move it around like normal. Definitely got to be extra careful with my shoulder from here on out. 👍.

[@Nothingbutagthangbaby]

Same thing just happened to me today on my bike and I’m very happy I stumbled onto your video “no pun intended “ it has made me feel better on what to expect on my recovery. Thanks you!

[@5ebaso]

thanks man. I'm literally healing as I write this since this happened to me TODAY! Now I am watching this and im truly grateful I have. I feel much better about getting back 100%. I just got into mtbs and I've been enjoying it. However, I've been playing soccer competitively since I was 18 (26 now) and I've never been injured like this besides my ankle. This happened while playing soccer this morning hahaha either way, I have a huge bump forever now but im going to focus on the healing so I can get back to it. Thanks again

[@anthonyvalentine8161]

Same thing just happened to me during a playoff game yesterday

[@5ebaso]

@@anthonyvalentine8161 sucks man. How you dealing with it?

[@almathol]

Great video. I did my right shoulder 18 months ago. I didn't know what to do and had to carry on working as I'm self employed. I didn't get medical advice as I knew they would tell me to stop using my arm, and maybe suggest surgery? I kept going, got back on bike within 10 days, and gradually things improved. I still have the lump on my shoulder (just like yours) but now I'm riding more than ever with no discomfort. I turned 55 recently. Keep up the good work.... Thanks

[@TrailBreaker]

I'm with you, Brother. I worked as a carpenter for 10 years, self-employed, and my current job cannot be done in a sling. I'm now at 6 months and am probably 95%. It pops when I move my arm in front of my chest but no pain, so that's good. I've come to embrace my lump as a well-earned battle scar 😅 Thanks for watching!

[@Chris-je8pd]

Grade three here on day 5 from snowboarding accident !Thanks for the vid

[@bencarlos2080]

I separated mine while in physical therapy school (snowboarding). It’s been 3ish years now and I’m mountain biking, olympic lifting, and not limited in the slightest. Hang in there guys, it’s a slow process but stay active (even on the un-injured side) and follow a progressive exercise plan.

[@bradbagley7127]

Hi Steve, Thanks for the video. I am 50/15 also! I recently completely refurbished my 1983 Schwinn Predator that I used to BMX race when I was a kid. I got the new Sugino crank put on(final touch) and decided to ride around a bit. Nothing crazy, just pedaling. I was wheeling slowly in my yard and went to turn around, something went wrong and down I went...HARD. I ended up with a grade 3/4 left acromioclavicular separation that required surgery(10 days ago). We have not begun physther yet( I still have all of my stitches). I believe that the impact on the left radiated through to the right as I am experiencing stiffness and pain all the way across. I get some spasms/twitching in my surgery site sometimes and the pain is manageable. I am self employed (paintless dent removal) and I used my arms and shoulders to full extent and beyond on a daily basis. My recovery and rehab are going to be a bit more extensive methinks. I do believe that I will be back to work and play(4 handicap golfer) by next spring, but I expect I will be re-learning alot. thanks again, your video is encouraging! Brad

[@TrailBreaker]

Wow, Brad! That sucks! It's amazing how quickly things can go South 🙁. Stay positive (I know it's tough) and do what the Docs say. You'll be back at it soon enough!

[@daredevilchicken]

I'm part of the AC bump club too(1 month ago)! I didnt get a video of my bike crash. The sound of your shoulder was exactly what I heard when I crashed. Glad to see you are fully mended. Your videos helped my a lot too. Thanks

[@TrailBreaker]

That sucks! Yeah, the sound of the impact still gives me chills (and I had to see it dozens of times while editing 🙁). I'm really glad my contributions have been helpful since that's why I posted the AC injury videos. Be well and heal fast, my Friend 👊

[@Fordged]

Thank you so much for these videos. Really helped my spirits and outlook. Thanks man!

[@TrailBreaker]

You're welcome. I'm glad it helped👊

[@Fordged]

Two years later and I've got100% mobility and zero pain. Does amazing through any lifting workout. A little aesthetic bump will remain as my memory of that great fall. Thanks again for this great video.

[@samsamtheadventureman]

Just got a grade 3 yesterday. Won’t be able to see an orthopedic for at least a week. Super bummed as I am extremely active and sitting still it is hard for me LOL. Thank you for your video it was helpful.

[@JPWNC]

Hey Sam how was you recovery and function now? I just got a grade 3 the specialist described as barely a grade 3 so that was good news. Are you limited now?

[@cgmorais]

Thank you man. I am at week 3 of a grade 5 ac joint separation. I needed surgery though. It's great news you are sharing here for guys like me looking for a light at the end of the tunnel. Pedal on!

[@Asgario]

Bro did you have the surgery ?

[@dharmakumar171]

How was your recovery going any updates and Leads would be appreciated.

[@johnchalmers6434]

Hi, thanks for the videos. Did mine 3 months ago, complete with lump and sagging shoulder . It’s recovering slowly. Still can’t quite lay on that side. I’m 58 and now decided to only ride XC / trail. Sorry don’t want this kind of injury again

[@TrailBreaker]

Understandable. Thanks for watching 👊

[@sildherposada3679]

I feel the same way about keeping it safe after recovery.

[@josephenright6428]

Well glad I came across your article. I have the exact same injury haven’t had an MRI yet so surgery isn’t completely ruled out, but so glad to hear physical therapy helped.

[@sicsixonerecords]

I just went Over The Bars yesterday and have Grade 3 separation. Your video was exactly what I needed to see. All I wanted to hear was that I would be ok and be able to get back out on my MTN bike. Thanks! Subscribed

[@TrailBreaker]

Kody Anderson Thanks, Kody! Thanks so much for the support 👊 That sucks Brotha! Heal up fast. Now is a crappy time to get hurt. Can you get it checked out?

[@sicsixonerecords]

Trail Breaker yeah I got it looked at. Immediately at ER then went to Ortho following day. Ortho said same thing Surgery optional and said in his opinion he would hold off on it and see how it heals.

[@TrailBreaker]

Kody Anderson Yeah. I was told if I can get full range and pain decreased I could avoid it. If you can’t or if pain persists you prolly have rotator cuff or labrum issues which WILL require surgery. Stay the course and be positive😁

[@nofretbrett682]

@@TrailBreaker how are you healing...? Percentage recovery versus range of motion versus strength...? Any 'clicking' or grinding or pain...?

[@jonathanmcadams-nx5zp]

I did this on a dirtbike on a 90 foot tabletop. I landed so very hard and i was going so fast and i fell just like you did. I was in so much pain but orignally thought it was out of place and i tried putting it back with a towel and two guys pulling it dorectly after it happend. Holy crap it was dumb. I was like 20. I never got it fixed and i didnt want to go through a mess of a surgery after 3 months of healing and i am able todo everything pretty well. I ripped the ac joint the same exact way. Mine looks nasty especially when i pift my shoulder and the coller bone sticks up. I cant believe you were back on your bike so quick. Damn. It took me 3 months to be able to do anything and i was young and just layed in bed all day and did small exercises every hour or two. But it was so painful. Not like my foots injury though. I had a Lis Franc fracture that ripped all my midfoot metatarsal apart and shattered all the bones and twisted my foot 270° after getting in a wreck and my foot got trapped under the dashboard and i rolled and gor tossed. It was bad pain, but then i had surgery with screws and plates and a bar in my ankle and when i woke up and the nerve block started to wear off i was absolutly miserable like 3 days. I thiught i was going to die. Puking and screaming and yelling and crying for three days straught. I couldnt sleep and couldnt move and could inly scream and cry and vomit and i did all three for 3 days straight with absilutly no stopping ever. I finally passed out on the 4th day in the early morning and the oxycodone was staying down with a gulp of water instead of me just puking it back up instantly. I got some weed and took oxys for months and months straight. I was bed ridden for 7 months unable to get up wxcept qhen i would crawl very carefully with my leg in an apparatus and i had to keep my foot and leg raised up while i crawled slowly to fently shower myself with help from my girlfriend at the time. So embarassing. It was extremly painful. Adte 7 months i was able to use crutches and was still taking hydrocodone instead of oxy at that pont at 10mg four times a day and i started really getting involved with drugs hard. Coke and alcohol mostly but also some mushrooms and molly and club drugs mostly. I ended uo with a 200,000 dollar settlement for the wreck and i had some fun and went crazy. Haha. Then saved the rest. I would trade the money for my foot back though. Worst pain of my oife and i have been on methadone pretty much since i stopped that regimen of meds from that accident with only a fewonths in between stopping the hydrocodone and going onto methaodne and the pain is terrible still. I am limping to the shower this morning but with the help of the methadone i am able to blast through it and the shoulder and foot and my lower back dont hurt so bad that i am unable to do the work i do fir at least 5 hours a day because that is avout all i can take each day before i crash out. That is the worst thing about the three injuries. The stamina I once had is completly gone and i cant work a full day without passing out right after i eat and i wont wake up until like noon or later the next day and i will be worthless and unable to move or work and i will have to lay back down right after i speep until noon amd baby myself until that night and then pass out and sleep until 6am but then i can get away with some more work. Not 8 hours or anything itherwise i will just start the cycle again but 4-5 hours is max. Eapeciallly painting, woodwork, flooring, remodeling, and the random landscaping I do qith a rental unit i own on the beach and side work that i do on the side.

[@tinshield]

I actually went down hard on my road bike at 45 mph and did this. Only had an X-ray so far but, being no stranger to this type of injury (unfortunately) I can tell everything is in its proper place. Definitely sprained the joint but range of motion is decent and after a week it’s getting better. 6 weeks ago did the same thing on the right shoulder but not as bad.

[@torisemega]

I am at the end of the 3rd month after my martial arts accident. Got a level 2 or 3 AC separation (no MRI). Ended 4 weeks of PT and will re evaluate in 3 days. My concern now is a popping on my shoulder that could be a bad sign. I hope no surgery will be necessary. I only feel pain during certain specific movements. My bump is way smaller than yours, so I'm confident. Thank you for sharing.

[@diwakarsenthilvel1058]

First thing I think you can understand my English .. right now I am facing same issue... Bump over on my ac joint... What You said in the vedio when we hang down fully bump is visible.. and another is ac joint doesn't stick to the should...

[@bitzblits]

I did mine about 2.5 years ago. The doctors say I am doing fine because I can pass the simple tests they give me. However, one of my other passions is gymnastics and doing things like parallel bars or pommel horse is still very difficult. The shoulder makes a lot of grinding noise and can become sore quickly. I think I am still making progress but it's hard work. At least my biking is no longer affected.

[@skotwilt]

wow, that xray is exactly what mine looks like. im 11 days from time of injury right now. wrecked an e-scooter at 20mph. only gear on was a helmet, unfortunately. but that did save my left orbital area. got a hell of a road rash, thats still a big scab currently. couldnt imagine wreckin my scooter that goes 48mph lol. im definitely fearful of ever landing on this same shoulder again. but have full motorcycle armor now.

[@skotwilt]

stage 3 ac joint separation. left side

[@jamesnewsom5899]

Hey man, kudos to you. Thank you for taking the time to put out these videos. I am in the midst of rehab from a grade 3 separation similar to yours. So these videos have been a great help in discussing options with my doctors and therapists. I've watched other videos as well by other surgeons and have gotten similar opinions. My conclusion is rehab with exercise and taping and leave surgery for another day or not at all. Thank you so much.

[@TrailBreaker]

Thanks James! I'm glad it helped

[@HelljumperNo13]

How you feeling now and what therapy path did you take? 3 weeks into Grade 3 AC Joint Separation and my doctor is currently evaluating whether to do surgery or not.

[@jamesnewsom5899]

@@HelljumperNo13 hey man, thank you for reaching out. I guess I am in month six now. I have full mobility and use of that arm. I am a contractor. I do have a large lump on that shoulder, so I guess my modeling career is over. But as far as function goes, I am fine. I am following a light weight, lifting routine. I have met people that went for the full operation and several years later they don’t seem to be better often anyway besides not having the lump. So it seems to be a very personal decision. I cannot afford six months to a year‘s downtime from having that heavy surgery done to put the collarbone back in place. Plus, I watched some surgeries online and they really cut up a lot of valuable tissue to do that. so, in summation, I’d say there’s no easy answer. I have seen several reviews that show as far as function for that third grade shoulder separation those that do surgery are not better off functionally later on. Hope that helps.

[@HelljumperNo13]

Thanks for the quick and thorough reply, I really appreciate that! I will probably try the conservative route aswell, don't care much about the lump either but I compete a lot and just want to go back to 100%. All rhe best to you brother, seems like you are on a good path!

[@samuelsenz2458]

This just took my stress level from 1000 to 1 thank you

[@TrailBreaker]

Your welcome. Good luck!

[@TheCosimodo]

hard to believe how many middle aged men have got this injury jumping MTB.I thought I was the only one silly enough,but just one of many.I'm just waiting for my broken ribs to heal so I can get on with rehab.Fingers crossed I don't need surgery.I hit the ground so hard I was spitting up blood.My front 2.35 tyre virtually rolled of the 25mm rim.Lesson learnt.

[@TrailBreaker]

Damn! Heal up, Brotha!

[@jbdbsb]

Hey Steve. Great video. (Last 10 seconds are my favorite). Two days ago, AC separation grade 2 while riding. I'm an aggressive Mtn Biker who'll be 59 in less than month and I refuse to act my age. I need this type of encouragement. Broke my right clavicle 4 years ago (1st broken bone ever) and came back even stronger. Now, it's another reset.

[@Devontaes180]

How has it healed up man over the year, had grade 2 a little less than a week ago and um definitely worried about the long term journey

[@nofretbrett682]

@@Devontaes180 how are you healing...? Percentage recovery versus range of motion versus strength...? Any 'clicking' or grinding or pain...?

[@nickhopper7316]

40 going on 12 here... I had a similar injury back in May. Like mty72, I was doing light riding 2 weeks after. Mostly paved/gravel to keep my legs in some sort of shape. After about 2 months I started hitting blues, then eased into black diamonds.

[@TrailBreaker]

Glad to hear you're back out riding!

[@chrisodr]

I’m one week in after doing something similar on a similar jump, I’m in the uk and they have given me a sling to take the weight of my arm but not much in the way of aftercare. My overall pin isn’t bad bud your right about the shoulder spasms!! Grade 3 separations with a big lump. Great video and good to know with some work I can get back to strength in my shoulder and get riding again!

[@TrailBreaker]

You'll be back in no time! Go check out my playlist on my home page called "AC Separation." There's a lot of info that may help. Good Luck 👊

[@mariusa.1205]

Hey Chris same here only a sling and im in my 3rd week already. Luckily i have found rehabilitation videos on youtube and I've started my physio on my own. Does the surgeon ever recommend physio here in the uk? Thanks

[@cjsangines7278]

Im having this injury now and its about 18 days since the accident happend and thanks to your video it motivates me and gives me the spirit to keep on..

[@loco504]

Been watching your videos on your AC joint recovery.. I just got injured from a simple run on a sidewalk. lol... Im a trail runner and gravel bike guy and out of all the dangerous trails and roads I been on a simple sidewalk took me out and gave me a grade 2-3 AC joint separation.. Im here looking to get back on also on my wight lifting and my other crazy activities .. thanks for your videos and just gave ya thumbs up and subscribe....

[@jasenrothe3595]

I did my injury playing basketball this February 2020. I’m 44 and can’t stop acting like I’m 16. I never did physical therapy but eventually started lifting weights again. It hurts on and off but my orthopedic surgeon said I’m still strong even with this that he recommended NOT doing the surgery. Oh, and 2 years ago I discovered I have arthritis in the same shoulder. He still is amazed I’m not in there complaining about pain.

[@TrailBreaker]

J R Ha! It’s nice having a threshold of pain😁 Dude, I’ve got arthritis all over (runs in the family) degenerative disc in my lower back and some fused verts in my neck! Oh well😁 Time to ride!

[@pkabai]

Great video! I got left AC joint separation (grade 3 or 4 I guess) about a month ago. Range of motion, strength is OK, but the bump. If I fall again, I will try to fall on my right shoulder to make it symmetrical.

[@marinbrkic6675]

Is there any problem with your motion? Can you do 360° without pain?

[@pkabai]

Now problem, just the strange feeling. Also my damaged shoulder is a bit weaker and I should be careful not to overtrain it.

[@marinbrkic6675]

@@pkabai don't worry..just keep progressing..you have to train all of sour muscles that've been keeping motion and ligaments,shoulder muscles,trapezius,scapula muscles..

[@pkabai]

Thanks a lot.@@marinbrkic6675

[@sureshwangkhem703]

When did you start doing the physical therapy

[@portermcneely1395]

Thanks for this video! 2 weeks ago I wrecked very similarly to your crash, but I ended up having to get surgery to repair the joint and it is nice to see what the recovery timetable is like.

[@TrailBreaker]

Porter, that sucks! I'm sorry. Stick with your PT and be patient and you'll be back smarter👊

[@Big2Planker]

Hey Porter, I also had surgery this past Tuesday. Just starting to slowly move the arm again, and it’s been a bitch. Super sore, and seeking a PT this week for additional exercises. Had a hook plate and 5 screws inserted to align things as well as provide stability. That’s going to be there for 12 weeks.

[@bradbagley7127]

@@Big2Planker I recently had surgery on my left AC/CC type 3/4 separation. No PT yet. I go back to get stitches out and checkup in a week. Are you experiencing pain across your chest and into your opposite shoulder? I am and my sternum is bumped out in the middle on the right side. My pain comes and goes and I seem to be on some kind of "Chill" switch as I get a chill that will last for and hour or so...I have been off of pain meds for 5 days. Hope you heal smoothly and completely. Brad

[@Asgario]

Porter when you had ur surgery done did they remove the bump?

[@rcjunkin2222]

Thank you , i separated my shoulder 4 weeks ago and was feeling down , fella in a similar way you did .. thank you again

[@cristi1media]

I've had the same accident two weeks ago and my x ray looked kinda the same. After seeing like 4 doctors, my decision was surgery. I had the surgery 4 days ago and right now the pain is kinda gone but I have to wear the sling for like a month and I have limited movement in the arm. Mine was grade 3. Now the x-ray looks perfect and I have some artificial ligament implanted there to keep the joint stable.

[@halfblackmaniac]

This just happened to me today! Thank you for the video. i need all the hope i can get! i refuse to act my age also. End of line

[@TrailBreaker]

Sorry! Heal fast and be well👊

[@jbdbsb]

Two days ago fo me. So how you doin? I'm 59 next month and refuse to stop riding hard

[@sildherposada3679]

This is EXACTLY what happened to me, same kind of trail, right on my left shoulder just like you. Grade 3 separation. I’m barely into my second week of recovery.

[@TrailBreaker]

Hope you heal fast

[@WheelerFitness1]

How’re you doing now?

[@sildherposada3679]

Here we are almost in May, about 2.5 months away from a year since the injury. I’d say for the most part about 98% healed. Maybe I’m 100% I dunno. I can do just about everything. I told my doctor I’d be happy if I can ride my bike 🚴, go back to the gym, go for a run, and be able to swim again. I have since been able to do all of the above. Do your physical therapies, stretch, get plenty of rest, and be patient. The approximate heal time isn’t the same for everyone.

[@Asgario]

@@sildherposada3679 how about now? Are you 100% now?

[@Mariosbhw]

Wow I’m in the current recovery process from bicycle injury and I was also surprised on the exercises they had me assigned too and this explains everything I was a little lost but I am now at easy. Thank you!! Great video!

[@TrailBreaker]

Thanks, Roberto! I'm glad it helped👊

[@JimmyB463DP]

Glad you’re doing better my friend! Sucks getting old - we don’t heal as fast! But looks like you’re doing great. Best of luck on a complete recovery!👍🏼

[@TrailBreaker]

Jimmy Batterton Thanks, Buddy!

[@canberratunneller6629]

Did mine on Monday (bike) grade 3 tear. Thanks for the video it answered most of the questions I had.

[@SocialFoam]

I had a grade 2 ACJ injury but I was told by my doctor that i’m still young (37) and it’s better to have a surgery and fix mine ACJ with a hook plate.

[@mty72]

I started light riding after about 2 weeks, I had an inguinal hernia repair (open), yeah not been fun at all especially not being able to ride my bike, now its been 6 wks and so far its been great, im 47 and definitely refuse to act my age lol.

[@TrailBreaker]

Rock on, young man 😊👊 I’ve heard hernias are no fun. You don’t stop riding when you get old...you get old when you stop riding 😁✌️

[@alannorthdevonuk763]

Thank you for this video. I'm 5 weeks since getting my AC grade 5 joint injury. We appear a bit more laid back regarding treatment here in the UK. I had to wait 6 days to see a doctor at the fracture clinic, x-rayed and told I would receive a follow-up telephone call after 3 months. No treatment at all. I am looking at joining a gym to get some advice regarding exercise (no physio here either). Reassuring to hear your story and I'll be off to a good gym tomorrow to help build the shoulder muscle up. That bump can look horrible and takes some getting used to.

[@londolozaafrika8558]

Its been five years since my AC injury I'm doing great...true dat the first 2weeks its hasal but I had the drive of I can get over it the worst being not able to gym if opt for surgery was big no so I did the basic of the knee pushups 3 a day became five then 10,so I knew then am getting my old self back.then did air chest straight punches for a minute each day it helped doing upper body work outs everyday in 6weeks I was 100%. Discomfort will be the problem if you work the injured side to much.the Lumps there but its nothing I can still hit heavy lifting not to much as before but trying to keep strong oh and I only feel pain on the injured side when I travel altitude got something do with it is strange but monitored it and definitely my hunch was right 3rd time I experience it same area I had travelled to..but its just couple of minutes then am fine.upper body cardio workout helps

[@TrailBreaker]

Sounds just like my progress. Little at a time and you'll eventually get back. There are a few movements I should not do because they will make me hurt the next day. I've figured out a really good workout program that keeps my upper body strong ( I think I actually look better because of the tons of low weight/high rep training I've done for the last year) and pain free. Good luck!

[@sandyb2391]

really great informative video. my daughter did this on her bike 3 days ago and yes we have the unknown but this definitely gives us a broader understanding of what directions we need to go with and yes the doctor of course too. it just scary for her as she thought just surgery and nothing else but this gives some hope of an option also. so glad it worked for you

[@adventureofmingputi2085]

Thanks for the video and ideas for AC joint Injury, now I Know how really hurt that AC joint injury,

[@mariusa.1205]

Fabulous video very very helpful. Many thanks for posting and really glad you're well now.

[@jasonmarkjemez]

Great video. I am at 47 and had the same injurie as you this weekend. It's day 4 and I'm feeling much better. I will definitely live with the bump. Had a pt session and hope to be back out there soon.

[@TrailBreaker]

jasonmarkjemez Jason, that sucks! I’m sorry you had this injury. The bump is no big deal. I forget about it but it’s still there. Good luck and heal fast👊🏻

[@priyanthalakmal7800]

How about your injury now

[@jasonmarkjemez]

@@priyanthalakmal7800 What injury : ) It doesn't bother me at all. If it wasn't for the bump I would have forgotten about it.

[@fsp48]

Glad you healed up to keep sending it. Wish I was recording during my recent skiboarding kicker jump crash landing. Your dirt version looked pretty similar. Strong gusts of wind killed my launch speed, knuckled the landing and momentum flipped me off the crest of the landing ramp knuckle onto my shoulder pretty much like your crash footage. Four days into this after the X rays confirmed no broken bones. I came up with a pretty effective tape job I did myself with ace tape to hold it down. I'm going to check out your other video to compare. At 50 it's always great to see others not living life according to candles on a cake. Lol Use it or lose it!

[@TrailBreaker]

Good luck, my Friend! Yeah, My recent B-day had 1 candle on the cake. 55 would've been a fire hazard 😂

[@fsp48]

@@TrailBreaker haha good plan... I'm going with dyslexia for a 15 count on my next cake. 😜

[@franciscogalaviz4267]

Thank you for your insight. Really helps knowing that I should be okay after a couple months!

[@TrailBreaker]

Glad it was helpful! Maybe ever sooner!

[@lucasobad-mathis1141]

Just had a grade 3 AC Joint separation on my right side. Hope to recover fast.

[@TrailBreaker]

Good luck!

[@priyanthalakmal7800]

How about your injury now

[@Asgario]

How’s ur injury now?

[@cameronduhon9440]

Thank you I’m in my first week of recovery I just hate the bump 😂

[@TheRealJoeMP]

I had to get surgery on my AC joint 5 months after my initial injury. I wanted to rehab with physical therapy but the collar bone never stabilized. It continued to rise up until it finally tore a hole in my trapezius. I'm now recovering from surgery that took place 3 months ago. Hoping I can do aggressive mountain biking soon. Kinda sucks starting over in the rehab and strength.

[@TrailBreaker]

Joe, that sucks! Must've been a nasty fall. Hopefully you'll be back when the weather improves👊👍

[@markhagopian3257]

Glad to see I'm not the only old guy out there that just won't grow up. Sred on my fellow AARP members. Lmao.

[@TrailBreaker]

Lol my wife thought it was hilarious when I started getting mail from AARP until SHE started to get some a year later🥴👊

[@MoonAtomic7]

I passed 13 weeks. Grade 2. It’s still discomfort after a work out or when I went swimming. My strength is back. I’m not going to slam through a door. When does that discomfort go away?

[@mattccc22]

I'd suggest looking into injectable peptide therapy. It's what most athletes are using nowadays to recover very quickly. Try finding a practitioner, possibly an anti-aging clinic or something like that, that will help you out. BPC-157 and TB500 can heal ligament/tendon issues in a matter of a few weeks. Studies show BPC-157 can cause tendons to re-attach to bones. Probably would have been more beneficial at the early stage of your recovery but may still help some even now. If you're interested and want more resources, just let me know.

[@TrailBreaker]

Thanks, Matthew. After 5 months my shoulder is every bit as separated as on day 1. However, aside from the occasional noise and popping in certain positions I'm very happy with my strength and mobility without further treatment. My "bump" is a daily reminder to stay within my skills and remember I'm not getting paid to ride like an idiot :-)

[@PascalFlamand]

Happy I found this video, it is encouraging. On July 3nd I crashed mountain biking a very fast downhill trail and i got a grade 3 AC separation. I know it’s been a while since you share that video but I was wondering if we can get in contact. It would be great to see which exercice you were doing and to share more detail about your experience. That would be great. I race and had to cancel at least on race so far.

[@rodneybooth4069]

My pain started suddenly when doing my regular push ups at about the 3rd and 4th pushup which normally have been a 20 rep pushup that I've did for 22 years. As time passed I had a couple sterioid injections which relieved the pain for a few weeks. Saw some videos on YT on how to help shoulder pain which was hanging from a pull up bar and after a few weeks of that I now have the hump you have. I quit the hanging and would not recommend it at all.

[@ROD006]

What kind of doctor did you see? I was in urgent care, the ER and even saw an orthopedist and they all said "you got an AC join separation LOL, wear a splint and see u in 2 months :p ;) ". I was so frustrated, since I knew I needed something like what your doctor did to you.

[@TrailBreaker]

ER at first then sports Ortho doc. They recommended the physical therapy rehab which was great

[@roguemarine5841]

Going through this right now. Went over the bars. Doc says ball is in my court to whether I want surgery. Tough choice. I 'm 3 months since injury. I have that same bone protruding.

[@TrailBreaker]

That bone will always protrude but how’s your strength and pain? Can you ride without pain?

[@denniss3980]

I have same injury, but except for pressing down on the bump at top of my shoulder I am having no pain and no loss of movement in my shoulder

[@cobbfutbol62]

My X-ray looked exactly the same as yours but right shoulder. Got 2 surgeries on it. Almost 2 years ago today, no bump in shoulder but gnarly scar lol.

[@Asgario]

Did the bump go away after the surgery?

[@norcaltrailrides5550]

Just got my MRI results. Complete rotator tear and retracted. Pretty sure I tore it a year ago so it may not be operable. Grade II AC Separation. 8 weeks and still some sharp pains at some random movements. See the surgeon first time tomorrow.

[@TrailBreaker]

Shit! Sorry Dude. I'm pretty sure rotator cuff issues can be addressed years later since I have TONS of middle-aged coworkers who have jacked up their shoulders in their 20s (like me) and get them fixed all the time. These were chronic issues that they finally addressed. AC may be different though. Good luck and let me know

[@norcaltrailrides5550]

@@TrailBreaker Recommending an SCR procedure for the Rotator. A Dog Bone procedure for the AC Joint. 2 surgeries in one.

[@TrailBreaker]

NorCal Trail Rides Well, I’m glad you can start your recovery now. Best of luck, my friend👊

[@mtbboy1993]

nice update, well explained as always.👍👌💪 I want to get neck brace to protect my neck, to keep me even saver, but I doubt I will do a injury like this, I got pretty good at knowing what I can and cant do, and bail in a crash, but things can happen even then, but I tuck and roll, but I've hit my shoulder once, but no injury, just scratches, not tried protective west yet. I make sure I never have crashes like this, never put my hands out like that, never create lot of force on my shoulders. But I will probably crash in the future, but not like this. I hope you will not push your self as much so far, keep doing the gradual progression you are doing now, it's the best way to stay safe a long with protection, but protection can't save you from this type of injury.

[@TrailBreaker]

Yeah, I'm also looking into a neck brace myself. As to the arms during my crash, if I hadn't used my hands to turn my upper body (I landed on my shoulder with my hands near my waist) I would have landed on my face. I basically did one complete roll and came up on my feet. I thought I got away without injury at first, but, sadly no :-)

[@mtbboy1993]

@@TrailBreaker oh, OK, maybe early roll attempt could have saved it who knows, I don't like gapjump unless it's safr, but you probably climbed the difficulty ladder too fast. Not sure if it was possible to ot injury shoulder there, how you crashed. Maybe if you just slid forward like in a swimming pool slide, I don't know, if possible landing on feet could work too, but not in this case you got so low and close at a extreme angle it was not much you could do.

[@mtbboy1993]

@@TrailBreaker Seth bike hacks has recently released a vid where I jumps and lands on a air bag, you can see the different ways he is bailing, by rolling or sliding using his legs, feet.

[@Meltnu]

I searched for videos and only found this now that I just had ac joint surgery. Ortho said I was grade 5. Fell off my brother's bike. Short story had accident 2 wks ago. Was just starting to regain motion w some pain still then had surgery. Now back to square 1. Wont know whether surgery was best option

[@landroverday]

That happened to me one week ago on my right shoulder.

[@anikgoswami7952]

I'm 19 yrs old from Bangladesh 🇧🇩. I had a bike accident 3 weeks ago and got AC joint dislocation(R),maybe it is 2nd degree,doctor is an associate professor of orthopedic surgery told me there will be no tension and surgery. I am a cricketer,fast bowler, He also assured me that there will be no trouble in future for service. But I Don't know why I'm very much tensed about my recovery. But I'm getting almost every movement and relief from pain gradually. If you want to give me any advice, please do. And pray for me🙏

[@alannorthdevonuk763]

Hi. How are you now? Hope you are back bowling.

[@mintorb1]

The is day 3 for me. . I miss my bike. I wish I would have gotten my fall on video it would have been awesome to look back on.

[@TrailBreaker]

Dude, that sucks! You’ll be back before you know it👊🏻

[@ahmadrasull8241]

I fell on my shoulder two months ago in a doubles game. The doctor says it should be level 3. According to the x-ray, but it still hurts and my shoulder bone is raised.

[@Fonso559]

Grade 4 complete ac/CC separation here. 4 years ago quad accident. No surgery full range of motion. Some pain when I use my shoulder a lot or do overhead activities sometimes feel when my collarbone rubs against shoulder but as long as you keep good posture when using shoulder it should be a good recovery. Only thing is the big bone poking out about an inch on shoulder. I Do wonder how it would be if I did do surgery

[@nofantasyman]

Thanks again for the follow through update.

[@TrailBreaker]

You're welcome!

[@roliepolie629]

My name is Andre Thiele I crashed on my mountain bike on 4/20/2021. In Phoenix Arizona I hit pavement on 7street. The VA hospital just gave me a sling and said it will heal. The protrusion is still there and I'm 55 years old, I just had x ray no MRI.

[@TrailBreaker]

That sucks, Andre! How's the shoulder?

[@cjh7234]

I just had this happen to my left shoulder, no surgery needed I was told but still months out til its healed. I still hit my gym 5 days and goin lighter on the shoulder, I'm a gym rat so I gotta train I hope it heals sooner smh.

[@hshesshe3096]

hey bro is your collar bone poppin up?

[@cjh7234]

@@hshesshe3096 was but the dr said the tendon on top of scapula to the joint was torn completely off and it's slightly out of line ,the other tendonson the lower end still is intact so that's why it's not poppin completely up . He said it doesn't need surgery just in a sling and dont lift more then 20lbs ,it will take most likely 4 to 6 months ....and I work full time in construction so that's rough lol.

[@Jason_Music]

Thanks for the video. I Just injured myself with the type 2. So I guess it's less severe and will have less discomfort when It heals as some tendons are still there... But heavy lifting will probably be over for me. I hope I can still do basic street workout routines...

[@JakeEatNow]

How has yours healed? Mine has been injured for 6 months now with limited improvement. Still can’t workout. Haven’t gone this long without working out consistently in 14 years.

[@Jason_Music]

@@JakeEatNow after a year and a half now, I can do everything that I used to do okay (started doing it all after 4months but with pain). as time passed, The pain during and post training has now been reduced to a minimum and doesn t prevent me from doing anything really. My shoulder will never be the same of course. I can t lift weight as much as I did in the past and the most painful movement that I thought I d never been able to do again was dips. I had to use elastic bands first to reduce my weight. Now I can do them at body weight and it feels ok, but I wouldn't add weights on this movements. Pull ups are fine even loaded with quite a lot of weights. Boxing is also okay, I d say fast movements and rapid angle changes when punching is what makes it sometimes a bit inconfortable when sparring, but it s still manageable. In any case I confirm it takes more than a year to slowly heal, and I still feel like the pain is getting reduced with time. I never really stopped training, up to 10-15h a week. Staying active and use your shoulder is probably the best to heal and make it stronger. Muscles will compensate the loss of the ligaments. I hope it helps and that you ll get better soon. Don't hesitate if you have other questions !! Take care !

[@JakeEatNow]

@@Jason_Music Thanks for the reply dude. I've hardly worked out since my injury besides by PT. You've given me some hope to keep pushing through!

[@jackstraw9728]

Thank you!!! Sounds great. Two weeks since separation. What are the exercises and taping. A detailed video would be amazing. Just subscribed!!!✌️😎👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@beneficialmeditations4832]

I wasn't so lucky... I crashed on an ebike, and the ER sent me home thinking I was fine, got a call 7 days later saying it was the ac separation, and this ortho guy I saw "well he is a nurse practitioner" told me it will actually heal back together... state medical care sucks! None of them seem to have a clue!

[@bhusankuntiya2444]

Thank you

[@darwinvega6962]

Thank you for your videos. So informative and helpful. Do you have tips, based on your experience on getting back on the bike? What were some limitations for you? Short term and long term? Thank you again for sharing your experience.

[@TaraBai.]

Thank you 😊same accident same problem and it help me alot of dis video

[@TrailBreaker]

Glad it helped!

[@henryvillasi2906]

I make swimming teraphy for my Shoulder displacement 2x week

[@JPWNC]

I'm on day 6 of a MC accident that led to a grade 3 AC separation. I was able to be seen by a shoulder specialist on day 3 and my injury was described as barely a grade 3 but technically a grade 3. It has been quite painful though. I have to return in 3.5 weeks for a follow up evaluation then I am likely to be freed for PT. I have already scheduled my first PT session on that same day. I am hopeful that I can regain full use and continue motorcycling, fishing, operating a boat and doing Jiu-jitsu. My chief concern or regaining full function and strength. I have an excellent PT Dr who I've used before. Any lessons learned?

[@johnschnettler1236]

Thanks for the thorough video, incredibly helpful/encouraging as I navigate my own recent AC separation injury. I was hoping you could share how your shoulder is holding up these days, a little over three years out?

[@bastienjoly7422]

Hi, amazing video. thank you. One question, how long after the accident did you have your first physical therapy session ?

[@TrailBreaker]

Less than a week

[@lucagirgenti8064]

Thank you for this video. I had exactly the same problem to the AC joint. One question: Have you ever used or have you been told to use, to recover, a compressive bendage or an orthopedic sling to compress the clavicle and to pull up the shoulder? Cause many doctors told me to use for 45 days, to try to replace the joint without the surgery, and to start fisioterapy after this period. there is one brand selling this type of bandage called RO-TEN

[@StevelandCleamer]

Seeing that this is two years later, how are you feeling? I separated mine pretty bad back in 2018, and it got better for a while, then way worse. Just had surgery to repair it two weeks ago because the arthritis was so bad.

[@AIRJORDAN833]

How are u now

[@StevelandCleamer]

@@AIRJORDAN833 actually far better than expected. I was lifting 120% more weight overhead than I did prior to the surgery. A lot less grinding and discomfort also. Still gets a little stiff here and there so I make sure I keep it strong and do a lot of stretching. Had full mobility back basically as soon as I got out of the sling. I definitely don’t regret it one bit.

[@unclebob8419]

How are you doing now? I had a grade 2 separation about 5 years ago, I didn't realise how serious it was at the time, I thought it was just a sprain, I've recently been diagnosed. Mine is getting more and more painful, the Dr thinks it's because the end of the bones are worn down and are rubbing together. Yours looks a lot higher than mine, the bone may be too high up to rub.

[@mrratcliffe21]

Thanks man! Encouraging. Great video.

[@mikematij2]

Will i be able to pick up a bag of concrete off the floor again? Theyre about 80lbs.

[@kamranahmad6678]

Thank You sir

[@larrywarnick1265]

I'm dealing with my recovery now and I am wondering if you had clicking and popping sounds and discomfort during your healing process? Please let me know. Thank you for sharing your videos, they are very helpful!

[@TrailBreaker]

Thanks Larry! Yes. Eventually it’s just the noise and popping without the pain😁. The human body is pretty amazing

[@marmarcberserker5503]

If you are not hard worker, then meaby surgery is not recomended but if you are the surgery is must have !!!

[@myriamcupril9104]

It happened to me ,..I don't know what to do. ?

[@pmmeredith]

Just got back from the hospital with same injury. The pain is unbearable but the doc said “ don’t wrap”. Why not? The slightest movement hurts to high heaven. Isn’t compression a good early treatment? Thanks!!

[@eztrailinglife8074]

Answered my questions! Thx!!

[@TrailBreaker]

I’m glad it helped

[@bj146651]

I tore mine benching in February almost a year and still hurts. What else can I do? Please someone help. I tried bands, stretching haven’t lifted in 8 months.