Sidesword/Meyer Rapier & Dagger Sparring - Jordan (AoS) v Michael (AHF)

[@timothygooding9544]

3:03 quality bonk from the red one in the back

[@DeadAutumnHorrorStories]

bOnk

[@caseydubois3645]

Le _bonque_

[@T4nkcommander]

These are always my favorite, but it is hard to keep track of all the blades in action!

[@michaelrizzo5523]

This was good! I haven't seen much Meyer rapier in action. Seems like it's much more suited to sidesword or similar cut & thrust one handed sword.

[@MichaelGThomas]

Yup, that’s exactly what it’s for.

[@AcademyofHistoricalFencing]

Meyer rapier is the German version of sidesword, its just sword terminology used differently.

[@michaelrizzo5523]

@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Basically the impression I got as I'm working my way through Meyer. Thanks!

[@DctrBread]

some beautiful swordsmanship

[@Poohze01]

That was a lot of fun to watch!

[@MichaelGThomas]

Thanks.

[@Urizen777]

Hello. Which helmet is Jordan wearing?

[@SirKanti1]

What gloves is Michael using?

[@shaunramkissoon2]

Looks like Red Dragons. I like his leg protection.

[@MichaelGThomas]

I’m wearing prototype Zoltan gloves. They’re doing much the same job as pro gauntlets.

[@ramibairi5562]

How similar is a sidesword to the so called "Military rapier" ?

[@AcademyofHistoricalFencing]

They are really the same thing. A sidesword is an early rapier that is typically a little shorter, heavier cut and often less hand protection. A military rapier is one with a shorter more robust blade than most civilian types, which is studier in the cut and parry and less cumbersome in length. Typically the military rapier has a fully developed rapier like hilt, but realistically they are exactly the same kinds of swords and can sometimes look identical. In their day all these different types, rapier, military rapier, sidesword, would often just be called rapier, certainly that was the case in Britain, just some are better suited to cutting than others

[@ramibairi5562]

@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Thanks a lot for the clarification

[@caseydubois3645]

Michael got that drip, not gonna lie

[@MichaelGThomas]

Got that drip? Ah, I’ve just done a quick search. Got it 😀

[@jungi001]

love it

[@MichaelGThomas]

Thanks.

[@buffordevans6942]

Lovely 😊

[@SanchoSiberia]

will much better to se slowmo replays of hits and another interesting moments. Without slowmo difficult to evaluate all the beauty of actions. Especially because this might will bring new viewers to the chanel

[@MichaelGThomas]

We don't have time to do that for most of our videos. You can of course slow down the footage in KZbin to get a better idea of what's happening.

[@corrugatedcavalier5266]

Ummm yes.

[@Bermuda-e7f]

to be totally honest the only thing I see from Meyer is the rappier of the guy in red. there s no Meyer tecnique at all, neither any Meyer step. Looks more like a saber assault.. if you guys try some binden, shilthau or whatever actual Meyer movement you d have much more fun.

[@MichaelGThomas]

We're working on a sidesword/dagger fight here so much is masked. I also know too well that Jordan (in black) wants to engage my blade point forward. Hence I'm adopting high guards, and creating openings for him to thrust into. There's plenty of lateral footwork here, and I'm avoiding the bind intentionally due to the dual weapons, where binding quickly leads to grappling due to the mess when the four blades are too close. As for fun. We had a blast. Always do.

[@krumst]

Me thinks it's not right to name a sword with just 90 cm blade a "rapier" . Authentic late renessanse "rapiers" have at least 105cm blade , usually more.

[@AcademyofHistoricalFencing]

You know many things were called rapier historically? Meyer called his rapier a rapier when it was by todays HEMA standard a sidesword. In 16th century England anything of more Italian form (a little more thrust focused and finger grip over quillon) was called a rapier, encompassing all kinds of things called rapier and sidesword today. In the early 18th century some (and sometimes all) smallswords were called rapier. Rapier is a very broad term, and is often incorrectly used today for only the small period of the most extreme examples (I, NIck, say as a Capo Ferro instructor).

[@MichaelGThomas]

The sword I'm using was literally called a rapier by Meyer in the 16th century. In the period the term was perfectly normal for the new swords being used throughout Europe that were better optimised for thrusting than those before them. It's all a matter of time, region and context.

[@krumst]

Exactly . The "Rapier" term fills broad types of swords. That's frustrating me . Its like one word for taichi, katana and even wakizashi together.

[@krumst]

In a short words , a sparing with long and heavy rapier in capo ferro and fabris vs. sort of whatever swords will be fascinating to watch :)