Introduction to Thales, Anaximenes, and Anaximander

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[@piggyoinkoink6352]

Anaximander evolved into Anaximeleon and finally into Anaxizard.

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[@xthrax]

This should be taught in our public school system it’s literally education on how to think not how to repeat what someone tells you

[@yasiralghamdi8539]

Most what this ancient people did is totally insane and terrible just a little things that could be true today, and we know it without needing to learn them

[@ScapeGoatAzazael]

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[@kumgumball4472]

Although vaporization may have a similar or exact meaning to rarefaction (10:02), I believe that Anaximenes' idea would be best captured and understood as the process of rarefaction and condensation

[@RaiyanAlphaRanger]

Very similar to what modern science says. Air is a mixture of gases, and gases are basically a collection of atoms and molecules spaced far apart, or rarefied. These same atoms, when brought closer together, or compressed, give rise to liquids (like water) and solids (like earth).

[@markd.holloman5187]

I have always gravitated towards philosophy and philosophical thought, it expands ones mind to think of why we exist and why things are. This type of thinking is necessary in today's world to have as an armor against the dumbing down of minds for capitalistic & governmental gains.

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[@coralovando3857]

What a great video to understand the Milesian school!!!

[@hahahu3795]

Thanks. This is the best way i would have imagined to get into philosophy without having a teacher. Imagine being from Greece and not beig taught these things, really frustrating.

[@ydalangin]

Thank you so much! This was very clear and helpful. I hope I can pass our quiz tomorrow.

[@Nwright171]

this lecture is way better than my professor and the books they assigned. And i'm in an online course... why couldn't they have been as detailed in their lectures as this

[@reelsongs123]

why no video on pythagoras?

[@DanielAlmeida-lb7rw]

+Jeremy Cassidy I may be doing a small video on pythagoras. :D

[@alkazaryyy]

agreed. would love a video on pythagoras, even though he was more of a kind of mystic, and numerologician than a classic philosopher, if i'm not mistaken

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Help our group needs to roleplay anaximander and anaximenes but idk how to can anyone help me or suggest what to do 😭

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It’s due in sept 14

[@liveslowlivesimple]

good stuff, easily understandable and pretty detailed!

[@geoffsmith673]

Great stuff and well recorded but PLEASE get a decent pop shield for your microphone!

[@nikhailkal9755]

the place in 1:22 is in Greece , Meteora if i am not mistaken :) Χαιρετίσματα από την Αθήνα!

[@omotuemenfavour1595]

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[@in2dionysus]

arche as emotion, individual rank . . . to bring physics to it the individual thing really had to be seen . . . evolution . . . a term of solutions . . . the crust tells a different story, the product of the door to which the mind's behold.

[@jameseldridge3445]

Thales also predicted weather patterns by studying the sky. He also developed the first "stock options" by buying olive presses for cheap then renting them out during max harvest

[@Hijodeganas1]

Wow! Very educational, thank you!

[@famkeplasgaard7554]

Little correction: Anaximander did not think the earth was round. He thought it was a cilinder

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Thank u sir it is very helpful knowledge🌸

[@samuelmccrery5282]

Anaximenes says air is the arche, and said it can change into the other elements. Why couldn't one of them be the arche that change into air?

[@nickrondinelli1402]

So if Thales thought the arche was water, Anaximenes thought the arche was air, Heraclitus thought the arche was fire, and Anaximander thought the arche was the cyclic combination and separation of fire, water, earth, and air, then who thought the arche was earth?

[@Xenophanes198]

Fragments from Xenophanes indicate that he thought all things were made from earth or water, or earth combined with water.

[@svetovanabozenstvi]

Good video

[@monikadeinbeck4760]

the Arche theory is what we still believe today. The arche is energy, and through e=mc2 everything else is constructed. And the rules that lie within mass, energy and spacetime condense into the rules that govern all natural processes. All that science did since Thales was to refine on his idea.

[@lowercase18]

You slapped three of the 7 wise men by showing a globe when speaking about earth. All three stated the earth is flat and covered over a dome. Everyone world wide agreed. Up until the Pythagoras.

[@TheSefrew]

Brilliant!Thanks!

[@mohammadazim052]

I dont know why pythagoras is omitted in this list?? He is very important before moving on to Herclitus.

[@academyofideas]

I agree. I just never got to him. Perhaps I will in the future.

[@ThatIndianBlader]

thanks mate

[@AbEtastic82]

Fantastic!

[@cygnuscraft9544]

Thales is a good name for a water brand.

[@MillerTurnerGrinder]

If we think about what we believe to know today, that this so called universe began solely through automatically self-assembling hydrogen atoms when the temperatures lowered, then anything else existing as heavier atoms was fused in self formed huge hydrogen only super stars ✨ that became supernovas and what not, then we really have to give some credit to Thales of Milet for his thoughts while the existing matter within the axiom seems to be limited though. But hey, what do we know and I wonder whether I could have philosophized all this together as a village guy on my own.

[@belleofkilronan8565]

Real philosophy began with the Pre-Socratics.

[@Wowzersdude-k5c]

Pre-Socratic philosophers were awesome. I mean these guys even put forward an early version of the theory of evolution by saying mankind evolved from fish. Plato and Aristotle completely derailed Greek science by focusing on rationalism over empiricism.

[@rofolaygoog3678]

It is not quite what we think of as evolution, but for sure-they're the predecessors of modern science much more than Greek philosophy postsocrates

[@morphine219]

Nice

[@runawaysuzie]

So, the Arche enslaves itself, by not recognizing itself.

[@Keldaj]

i would argue that this is a misconception.....the arche like how we observe animals in their pure nature realizes that it's pointless to recognize "yourself" you are eternal anyway, this is just a lifetime of eternal lifetimes. the arche knows it's going to come to an end and then come to another beginning. it's not slavery....it's truly being free. it doesn't hold on to ANYTHING because it's going to be everything and it knows it already. we as human beings can't conceive that nature rationally and most of us believe it can't possibly exist.

[@crazytazzify]

Anaximanders theory sounds similar to Quantum fluctuations

[@MrPipvampire]

What an eyeopener. What's wrong with lecturers?

[@Ashmoke]

The arche sounds like the unmoved mover.

[@rofolaygoog3678]

Well, it is not only just that- it is a bit more concrete than that + is a substance

[@thehistoryofphysics5816]

Great summary of the Milesians view of matter! Anaximander also came up with the first mechanical model of the cosmos. You can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYKQlpmvrdqdZs0

[@sroshyazdani8012]

9:30

[@illwill2453]

Physics, in my opinion, is yet a mendicant to philosophy.

[@ruskinyruskiny1611]

Physics and Philosophy at the moment both have the same conclusive thought "Reality is incomprehensible ". See William James for details.

[@DarwinianUniversal]

love your work. What do you think of these deductions? Clocks are made of quantum mechanical parts (atoms), that measure a parameter of relativity (time). A singular device that corresponds to both fundamental theories, QM and GR. If both theories correspond to clocks, then clocks show us how both theories correspond to each other. Simple logical deduction. How might this instruct our investigative inquiries? Clocks are dynamic systems that can give us more information than merely a measure of time. Clocks give us information about forces, because there underlying operation is driven by forces. Force drives clocks, therefor clocks measure force. Realizing this allows us to make a series of empirical observations and construct statements that apply to both QM and Relativity. Clock springs provide an empirical account of a property which is well suited to the term “force dilation. Following is a simple way to visualize this property. I hand you two identical springs, wound up to different tensions, and ask you to define each springs tension value in terms of newtons, using Hookes law. It is trivial to say you obtain different force values for each spring. Then I tell you the history of the springs. These springs are clock drive mechanisms, and these two clocks were synchronized before being transported to different gravitational environments, close and afar large masses. Time dilation accumulated some affect leading to the divergence of the clocks measures of time, and this corresponds proportionality to divergent position of the springs. Thats when we handed you the springs, and you defined a divergent value of force which is associated with the time dilation effect. Force dilation component associated with Relativity. Force dilation is an as yet unsubscribed empirically derived phenomenon that corresponds to gravitational effects. A literal measurement. If somebody chooses to ignore it, then they do so in face of empirical observation. Clock hands and clock springs are parts of a single system, moving in lock step proportionality with one another. If you log time dilation effects on clock dials, then there is a corresponding shift in position of the spring, and spring positions can be defining in terms of Hookes Law which identifies a variable expression value of force. Force dilation!. Relativity boiled down to simplest possible terms, is a theory of simultaneity, or point coincidences. Einstein realized that particles dont point coincide and interact in space, when and where we would expect them too. So he developed a framework which correctly reconciled where and when the interactions coincide. He achieved this with principles of “time dilation” and “length contraction”. Clocks demonstrate both of these principles simultaneously, via a variable travel distance of a clock hands. However, that’s not all that clock systems indicate for us. Clock systems dilate in function dependent upon Relativitys effects, and in so doing empirically demonstrate dilated force values. Force dilation can be a common sense explanation for why particles are late and or early to arrive at a point in space. It would be no more mysterious than a ball reaching the other side of the yard quicker, because you throw it harder. Force dilation. (Force drives clocks, therefore clocks measure force) This is a purely logical and defensible statement, and makes sense in terms that a clocks function is entirely a consideration of forces. Furthermore, the clock spring mechanism services just as well as a weight scale mechanism, measuring weight as force. So why do we ignore this property of springs once we place them out of sight behind clock dials? Why do people struggle with this realization? They expect to hear nothing beyond terms of (clocks measure time) And are not quick to favorably judge unfamiliar terms. Trapped within restricted bounds of thought.

[@luizadao997]

Thales is said to be a very wise man and very good at astronomy.

[@heavenly3735]

Everything reeks of the ether. So so similar.

[@ruskinyruskiny1611]

The Jains, Jesus and the Quakers have been the most effective thinkers and doers so far.

[@yvonnegonzales2973]

Archeology

[@bethoumyvision6946]

Solomon and Daniel lived before Thales. By whose authority is Thales considered the first Philosopher?

[@UFO314159]

Anaximenes' philosophy was definitely an advance over his predecessors, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[@philosophymonkeys1747]

Thanks for uploading this! I recently made a video explaining Anaximander's philosophy, check it out sometime? I'd appreciate your thoughts!

[@RocketKirchner]

Thales thought everything was made of water because he lived in a port town .

[@hereandnow990]

In reality, it is very possible and I believe most probable that none of these ancient philosophers ever existed in real life, but instead are symbolic representation of some foundational principles the humankind had started to come into being and evolve. Who exactly invented these characters, as well as biblical or other characters, remains a question for another discussion. But we definitely don't have any physical evidences of those characters existing anywhere apart from our imagination. This however does not diminish the wisdom and teaching brought to us by the vehicle of these characters.

[@shizuchuan]

I Hate Philosophy but thanks for making it easier

[@satnamo]

Faith is de original force that creates das universe. Therefore, faith is the arche.

[@TheHonorRising]

oh my god I hate philosophy why is it mandatory whyyyyyyy

[@hemangipawar9856]

+1

[@darrellee8194]

Ex

[@biosdaddy]

Anaximander's idea was inspired from Indian philosophers.

[@el_equidistante]

This is very inaccurate

[@henrys3221]

What is?

[@rftulak]

Hmmm... Earth, water, air and fire...... The last 40 years... solid, liquid, gas and plasma.... stupid Pre-Socratic philosophers.

[@jebcar9618]

How would they know about plasma

[@ro4691]

conclusion: all were wrong on the elements and the existence of the world...

[@TheSteinmetzen]

+Roger Goodwill But they were working with what they thought. Philosophy is a progressive thing. I think they shouldn't be critizised for thinking about the nature of things. Freud was incorrect on a lot of things, but his thinking helped others to thinking about bigger things in psychology.

[@alkazaryyy]

physics, especally quantum, shows that we still are "wrong" about most of our preconceptions of the world. it's best to have continious humble attitude while we dive deeper into the mystery.

[@stinnetbennet]

No. Anaximander is correct that an underlying principle guides the world. Everything is based on assumptions of logic being true. You cannot prove logic true, it is assumed so as a principle, one that does not change.

[@rofolaygoog3678]

Well, this is very much the beginning of nonmythological inquiry in the west, so you shouldn't expect right things on every count