Accident, suicide or homicide?

[@pfadiva]

Moral of this story: Do not talk to police without legal representation. They need to solve a crime; you need to protect yourself.

[@A_Ducky]

That's the moral of every interrogation.

[@noth606]

Correction: they do NOT need to solve a crime, they need to pin the blame on, and convict someone, which is a completely different thing than solving it. They don't need or often want the truth, they need a closed case and a conviction.

[@Torahboy1]

Simple rule: Do not ever answer police questions. “No comment. No comment. No comment” If they have enough evidence against you, they’ll charge you. If not, they’ll try tricking you into giving them some. Nobody ever talked their way out of charges with clever EXPLANATIONS If the nice officers say that you’re NOT under arrest. Stand up. Leave. If they try to persuade you ro stay, ask to speak to a lawyer. NO COMMENT.

[@cannedsquasher5923]

​​​@@noth606correction: SOME. Not every police department is the same, just like how not every mechanic is the same. Some people genuinely give a shit and others simply couldn't give less of a shit. I've seen cops dedicated to their work and genuinely interacting and caring for the community. I've seen others who could give a rats ass.

[@noth606]

@@cannedsquasher5923 There are individual cops who care about the truth, but police departments etc do not need it, their job has no actual relation with the truth or 'solving crime' in the actual sense of the word, it makes no difference if they pin the blame on some random guy off the street or the real perpetrator - EVEN if the truth comes out. Police agents, chiefs, prosecutors and judges do not get fired for arresting, convicting, sentencing and jailing the wrong guy. They damn well should, they should all get the same sentence put on them, if it comes out that they worked together to jail an innocent person.

[@rmooreg]

It is astounding how tenaciously the state will attempt to uphold a conviction no matter how clearly it has been proven to be false. The prosecutions entire case here was completely destroyed by the discovery of the body. The confessions were clearly coerced, and even then were completely muddled by the accused. Not surprising, considering their IQs, which in most countries are below the level deemed competent to stand trial. This whole case was a sham from the beginning, yet the state fights to the end against justice being served. Incredible corruption and treachery on the part of those tasked with seeking truth and justice.

[@A_Ducky]

Here's more cases that are complete bullshit, but people got convicted anyway (both are life without parole): - Daniel Holtzclaw - Darlie Routier

[@billesommer4636]

Them are all free masons for sure😎

[@angelicamichelle1646]

Kamala Harris done the SAME EXACT THING to two black men! Her own blood people!

[@KimVerhaaff]

​@@A_DuckyHoltzclaw was found guilty of many more crimes than he had committed, in my view. He is 100% not an innocent man though. And Darly Routier is where she belongs. She killed her children... I have zero doubts there.

[@jeffjones3040]

​@@A_Ducky...Holtzclaw was a cop. Cops are 99% of the time PROTECTED. There were no indications that he was going against other cop's corruption. Show me THAT, and I will change my mind. Darlie certainly was railroaded.

[@Nanita506]

What a freaking $#!+show of a case, it gave me whiplash! Like always awesome coverage, Case files!

[@wagashi]

"The judge ruled that it didn't matter how Rudolf had died" I'm no judge, but even I know that this is not true lmao

[@randomsasquatchwithwifi4090]

This one needs to be made into a movie. Its almost darkly comical.

[@Charles-oo8bq]

I literally laughed out loud several times.

[@shelleybuckingham733]

Exactly THAT!😂😂😂

[@je7055]

Glad I'm not the only one who thought so. The whole time I was thinking "Jesus, this sounds like a Coen Brothers movie about the _American_ justice system."

[@thegreencat9947]

@@je7055 exactly. Someone should suggest it. Nah.....too close to "Fargo". A British production....yeah..in Germany....i can see the village now.

[@wanderinghistorian]

It's almost as if the right to legal counsel before questioning and disregarding anything said without that right is important to the integrity of a system of justice or something. P.S. After finishing the episode, this has got to be one of the most crooked police departments and judge I've ever heard of.

[@Wuchtamsel]

Never go to court in Bavaria. NEVER!!!

[@GaiaCarney]

What a sickening injustice!

[@Charles-oo8bq]

Legend has it the Mercedes still runs perfectly

[@wiebkescantick947]

He kidnapped and SA'd three children and BEFORE he SA'd and murdered Leslie WITHOUT proper punishment?!?! This makes my blood boil and want to vomit!!!! If he had been properly punished in the beginning, this poor child would still be alive!!!! Then having an innocent man arrested, tried, AND convicted due to the absolute lies by the police failure of the attorneys!!!! The ENTIRE judicial system was an ABSOLUTE failure!!!! How absolutely disgusting!!!!

[@MR-pv7qg]

Another fascinating podcast!!! You guys are true artists❤

[@jpmchausse]

Still my favorite way to experience some true crime. Thanks for years of entertainment!

[@sarahl88]

Wake up babe, new casefile just dropped.

[@SpicyTexan64]

Just go away.

[@sarahl88]

@@SpicyTexan64 no thank you. I appreciate this channel and comments increase engagement for them. I made a generic comment rather than a specific reference to the video as it was one of the first and didn’t want to spoil it for anybody.

[@A_Ducky]

​@@SpicyTexan64 Are you being the "babe" in the scenario?

[@angelicamichelle1646]

Woo hoo hoo!!!!

[@SpicyTexan64]

​@@A_DuckyYou took the time to respond and that's what you came up with?

[@connarish]

The best in the game. Thanks casefile.

[@leahstone9308]

This was nuts. Baffling. Good script.

[@hayley44448]

Love this channel ❤ watching from New Zealand 🇳🇿

[@hayley44448]

@JakeByers-nr5rk hello 😊 wishing you a merry Xmas ✨️

[@TheTalisa1974]

I'm always happy to see a new drop from you

[@Emmy-pz3zm]

This is clearly a case of corrupt police coursing a vulnerable family. I am inclined to believe that the drunk father had an accident and what looked kneeling was him trying to escape his sinking vehicle, the key likely ejected from the incompetent recovery people who destroyed any further evidence. This is disgusting! A lot of people ought to loose their jobs along with all pensions and percs and the family should be Heavily compensated. Shame on you Germany!

[@learobinson4450]

That’s what I believe & none of the authorities or experts thought of it? The guy’s body wasn’t sitting in the drivers seat & they immediately think he was murdered? Never crossed their minds he tried to get out of the sinking car? When I heard he was kneeling in the front seat I immediately thought he was trying to escape by climbing in the back. The front of a car sinks first because of the weight of the engine & back rises up so it’s the last to fill with water. The man was trying to get in the back seat to escape.

[@rtyria]

@@learobinson4450 That was the first thing I thought of as well. The leg the doc said might have to be amputated probably kept him from being able to climb over the seat or kick a window out. Being drunk probably didn't help either. A horrible way to die, but not murder.

[@lisasteel6817]

Yep and he probably turned off the engine and put it in park himself thinking it would help because he was drunk AF. He abused his family in life and made them suffer in death too. What a horrible man.

[@isaeihwaz3227]

What happened here is wrong, yes. Which country with a perfect legal system are you from, pray tell? Way to go overboard with the nation wide generalization.

[@PaulRudd1941]

"Ve have vays of making you tok" -The German -Gestapo- Polizei.

[@stevie1683]

Absolutely insane 😮

[@RED-cy7ig]

Bizarre to say the least.

[@NoniOfFive]

Most underrated channel

[@jeffjones3040]

The case is SO WRONG that it should not even NEED A DEFENSE!!!

[@gillianbennett4518]

Golly, how bizarre n convoluted! Thank you so much for this amazing podcast. I have been listening to you for many years

[@HaramXL]

I can't tell you how happy I get when I see you've uploaded. And then to see it's an hour long? ❤

[@blackkittens.]

Same :)

[@FoxrosePettipaw]

At first I was frustrated by the defense changing their story over and over again, but the end really put it all into perspective. They were basically just echoing the interrogators leading questions and possibly feeding off of each other if they were able to visit each other. I think with their diagnosed low IQ, I'd wager they couldn't have pulled off a murder without any evidence or proof. As in, intelligent murders always seem to miss some kind of evidence behind while this family of bumbling idiots left a perfectly clean crime scene? I don't know, the whole thing is such a mess. I do worry they were taken advantage of - I'd imagine in the US they may have been found not guilty due to insanity or something because anyone can tell they weren't clear minded at any point in this case...

[@A_Lazy_Mutt]

In my home country of Brazil, judgets, lawyers, prosecutors, and basically anyone who works in the field of law are notorious for being overly proud and narcissistic about their position. Evidently, this doesn't seem all that different in the rest of the world.

[@asha4736]

Definitely the same here in Aotearoa New Zealand. And they/the government all protect one another as well.

[@jessicawalton3497]

Same in the United States

[@FireRising86]

@@jessicawalton3497ESPECIALLY in our United States. Just look at the Circleville Writer case 😢

[@lorraineyanez4301]

Woke up at 3 a m for no reason couldn't go back to sleep now listening to your content 😊.

[@rhondamcewananderson3968]

The first thing I see is Casefile...yes! ❤️

[@amandasiddle6571]

Got abit panicky thinking you hadnt uploaded today as i didnt get notification 😮 but i found you thanku CF xx

[@Flying_Fetus]

"Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid." -Supposedly John Wayne

[@St.OlGa.]

Incompetence at every angle... poor Rudolps family😔😔

[@LilAnnThrax]

Why is kneeling a sign he'd been in a freezer and not a sign he'd been trying to escape his car after crashing it into a river?

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

Okay.. sure! Why not?

[@kimihime9901]

Exactly what I thought! If it was an accident and he drove the car into the river, he could have tried to escape the car! Obs: I don’t know if there was water in his lungs found in the autopsy or if they could even tell after so many years, to know if he died by drowning

[@KateANDERSON-y5d]

Great story, thank you.

[@danrobinson572]

Saturday morning here in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania is now complete 😊

[@kanivaoh1915]

How do people fall asleep to this podcast it is scary as fuck 😮😮

[@immir6647]

Yeah I can't listen to these things before bed as much as I find them interesting. The dreams wouldn't be worth it

[@leezljusino]

For me it's the tranquility in the voice

[@peaceluvpupz8466]

Y'all the best!!!!!

[@Maligroot]

Thanks Matey 👍

[@everydaykiva6377]

G’ nite guys, a new Casefile just dropped…🌙

[@charliekezza]

If they were in such a financial bind wouldn't they have sold the car rather than scrap it

[@teresakirkland995]

That judge needs to be booted from that bench!! There is definitely reasonable doubt of guilt and they should have had a retrial at least. Smh. It takes forensic evidence to prove murder all they had was circumstantial at best.

[@seanmchugh840]

Thanks a lot, very well produced indeed. I was very surprised that they were convicted- the testimonies and evidence was not enough and hence they had to be acquitted, guilty or not. The 'human error' stuff is garbage here and there was a clear violation of basic protocol. The obvious crooks here were the prosecutors, particularly plainly covering themselves after the subsequent findings.

[@jeffjones3040]

This is why cops and confessions should not be believed.

[@traceyaustin7141]

1.4k veiws but only 124 👍 common Casefiler's let's help the algorithm 👍💎🇦🇺🙋‍♀️👊🤟💯👍

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

How can fish swim inside a locked car to eat the body??

[@summerscarnival]

Love your content and are always happy to see cases from my country, so heres some help - There is no "deutsch marks". It´s deutschE Mark. One Mark, two Mark.. it´s always the same and the "e" at the end of deutsche IS pronounced. Were german, not french ;D

[@arleccio]

Wild case. There was no reason to suspect foul play. It's not even 2000 meters to check whether there's a disturbance or a car in the river. No, two years later someone decides that the family did it and they didn't let go until they all confessed to the wildest crime committed out of the blue. And when he's finally found exactly where and in the shape you would expect him if he drove into the river and drowned they double down. Our biggest problem is that they can't admit mistakes. Not the police, not the prosecution, not the judges. Not the only case either.

[@smokeydapot]

"Shattered the long held belief that the German legal system doesn't produce wrongful convictions." Define long held? 10 years? The Soviets and mustache man happened, you know.

[@PointNemo9]

Since the Nuremburg trials

[@reneekimball1314]

Was there water in his lungs? This family was treated horribly inhumane I lean toward suicide. I really would like to watch that special

[@immir6647]

So Rudolf had 8 beers then drove his car?

[@thinking2hard95]

What about the second vehicle in the water? 🤔

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

It was mine

[@anitaholst7671]

Fascinating. Judge certainly has no business being a judge. God help anyone else befoore him. The prosecutor i think the same about. Everyone trying to CA and progress in their careers.

[@martaiswatchingyoutube5063]

schlaaaaaaaaand crime in my home country ! yay is sit weird to be excited about that lol

[@A_Ducky]

Didya try for "scheiße" there at the beginning? Go right ahead, we know that one 😁

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

Rudolph is sleeping with the fishes

[@Johnconno]

My wife hasn't come home since 2020, I reckon she's happy.

[@FireRising86]

Why do people get married again?

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Also in the spirit of this episode - "Why did they confess?", Swedish documentary from 2008 in SVT Play. _In the end, eight young people had confessed. Finally, the police seemed to have found the pyromaniacs who had plagued Dalarna for so long. But were the right people arrested or was the investigation one big abuse of law? Could they have confessed without being guilty?_

[@MarquitaMallory-rm7we]

Plot twist the police killed him

[@terribongers2465]

Obviously he was drunk, went in the water! Being in a river for that long I’m guessing the key come out. And it could have gone into park as the accident happened 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@_HimToo]

The corpse isn't considered new evidence? That's a CYA move right there!

[@PetroicaRodinogaster264]

Why do so many investigators go for the most likely without considering that a wrongful arrest just lets the real culprit to be free and make more work.

[@FireRising86]

Because they don’t care

[@KathleenCalhoun-em6ys]

In my opinion, Rudolph's death was purely accidental. His family was not sophisticated enough nor bright enough to pull off the "perfect" accident. The family should be awarded just compensation for false imprisonment minus a determined amount for false confessions although those confessions were pressured by investigators feeding the family leading questions, and this is done to teach everybody a lesson. I think one of those judges did not want to admit the justice system made a mistake and award a bunch of morons who did nothing to contribute anything toward the public good any compensation after already spending so much in tax dollars on this whole thing

[@traceyaustin7141]

🙋‍♀️👍👊💎🇦🇺Sydney 2428 Australia Listening

[@themorgan1111]

drunken accident i think xxxxx

[@damonroberts7372]

Here in the English-speaking world, we tend to take it for granted that "civilised" nations would have legal systems with checks and balances that protect peoples' civil rights... like the right to legal counsel, the right to avoid self-incrimination, limits on the time you can be detained by police without arrest... I know our system isn't perfect, but it could be _much worse._

[@erinntay]

BUT….WHAT HAPPENED to that poor innocent neglected dog that they found in the basement??!!😳😞 the humans are all trash cans….that poor dog❤️😞

[@unmuddywaters4602]

This happened in the early 2000s in Germany; but have you heard of the American case 😅f the “Norfolk Four” and the murder of Michelle Moore Bosco? This happened in 1997… it is thorough in that the interviews were videoed and they show the way 4 men went to prison for decades when none of the evidence indicated anything that was “confessed”. It showed t the contrary actually.

[@scottcantdance804]

Your post made me go read the wiki on that case... What a travesty. I recognized her name because I lived about 20 minutes from there when the crime occurred, though I was only in middle school when it happened. I didn't remember any details, but for some reason that name tickled at my memory.

[@unmuddywaters4602]

@@scottcantdance804 she and her husband were friends of mine in Highschool. They had only just moved to VA from our hometown, following both of them graduating. Bill (her husband) still celebrates her birthday every year. He will never get over losing her. She was such a fun and happy person, u couldn’t dislike her if I tried.

[@A_Ducky]

​​@@unmuddywaters4602Another 2 cases where people went to prison for life & no parole - on no evidence: - Daniel Holtzclaw - Darlie Routier Edit: found that case you mentioned by another channel. That's what I'm watching next. Thanks!

[@Wuchtamsel]

Wow, great to see this insane case featured here.

[@regisbabytisay63]

LATE VIEWER FRIM PHILIPPINES

[@welshkiwilady]

Could you please do the Nia Glassie case? RIP little one

[@snoox27]

Came to the comments for clues! Curse me being early. Edit, the butler did it!!

[@martaiswatchingyoutube5063]

oder der Gärtner / or the gardener lol

[@user-mt4ku7jw1y]

​@@martaiswatchingyoutube5063 or the postman

[@lowboy_pinky]

Interesting

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

In the spirit of this episode you should look up - _Maureen Harriet "Cats" Falck was a Swedish television journalist who, together with her friend Lena Gräns, disappeared in Stockholm in 1984_

[@A_Ducky]

Can you find it on KZbin in English? I love Sweden (from afar, but hopefully someday will be there) but only cases I found when searching these names (with or without umlauts) was in Swedish. Would love to hear about it, tho I'm not big on unsolved cases. Tack. ;)

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

@@A_Ducky you can find a English language wiki page. I think it's a pretty un-known case.

[@A_Ducky]

@@DEATH-THE-GOAT Ahhh dang, was hoping someone did it on YT with a video. I'll try suggesting it to some people who do international cases (This Is Monsters, etc).

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

@@A_Ducky sounds like a great idea. The case is like a cold war spy drama. No spoilers.... But 😉

[@A_Ducky]

@@DEATH-THE-GOAT Aaaaaa... Sweden AND cold war era... You couldn't have picked more interesting topics (to me). Maybe Sabaton, but thankfully they're alive (and let them be so for a long time... As well as Ghost).

[@GThu1]

I think no one, except the prosecution and the judge (I think there are no jury in Germany) belived in their guilt. But this is enough to convict someone. There were clearly not enough for a conviction, yet they were convicted. This shows the fatal flaw in Germany's law system. Although no law can be percect, but this shouldn't have had happened in a developed country like Germany. This strengthen my belif in the jury system (sadly my country doesn't have it as well).

[@Estellbel1968]

Poor animals I hope they took all those innocent animals away from these monsters

[@everibarovski7963]

One of the most baffling case I have ever heard I believe that the father had some how driven his car or someone else pushed the vehicle into the river he had reason to take his life he owed so much money that the only way out was suicide and probably so drunk that he didn't have any other choice. And as for the rest of his family admitting murdering him I mean either very dumb stupid only to confuse the police. A sort of tactic I would not like to be the psychiatrist trying to establish the real truth from these four impossible. Perth Western Australia

[@barbaraellison1095]

During the entire podcast, I marveled that our famously serious narrator kept from bursting out laughing. This tale was whacko. The victim had been asking for his fate for decades. The ever- changing stories were funny. And finally, what exactly is a “club” as referred to frequently here? I’m always amused by the fact that many a European murder/assault are perpetrated with baseball bats. How are baseball bats even available in Europe? Who’s playing baseball over there? Gun restrictions keep gun violence low. The EU should ban the importation of baseball bats. Or are baseball bats actually referred to as baseball clubs?

[@margaretwhittaker2291]

there are cricket bats in the U.K., very similar!

[@barbaraellison1095]

@@margaretwhittaker2291 but the assaults always specifically refer to baseball bats.

[@lynnhexler-haan3357]

@barbaraellison1095 It's all in the vocabulary, word source( original definition) word play & application. In Medieval Times a person could be clubbed to death by a cudgel or mace. The term clubbing describes the actual beating down of a person from any number of heavy objects or weapons. Golf club, fence post, spade, shovel, axe, car wrench, car jack & so on. Then in the UK you have clubbing, different again!

[@margaretwhittaker2291]

@@barbaraellison1095 yes, true but we don't play baseball in Europe! I am as confused as you are....

[@howdareyouexist]

@@barbaraellison1095 🤡

[@johnlewis1830]

Crooked cops coerced those poor people just bcuz they weren't smart enough to know their rights.

[@levimichael1136]

By the end of the video, the clock on the screen is 20ish seconds fast.

[@neilshearer7513]

Surely he could have tried to get out of the car, which is why he was found kneeling?

[@chriswitt2596]

All I care about is did they get the animals out of the basement and the starving dog😂

[@Lauriej117]

I’m not at the point where the neglect and abuse of the animals has been mentioned but now I know Rudolph and his families were neglecting and abusing animals, I’m not watching the rest of the video because whatever happened to those horrible people ( Rudolph and his family) is totally deserved. Despicable people.

[@_HimToo]

Ahahahaha so they threw him down the stairs (even tho the evidence shows that didn't happen), then they beat him with a big ass plank of wood... but only on the neck & managed not to hit anywhere else. Then they choked him and/or stabbed him... again, only the neck tho. The neck- being the only body part that didn't exist anymore due to it being fully exposed soft tissue. How convenient. The whole family is dim & they were clearly coerced by the cops, who also fed them the confessions. This whole case is maddening & at the very least, the cops & prosecutor shoulda been fired. Well, at least it didn't happen in the US... for once lol

[@Estellbel1968]

I’m pretty sure they killed him

[@rashone2879]

I love Casefile but I don’t enjoy unsolved cases. Looks like this is one of them, judging from the title.

[@cathyhaynes2700]

Crooked judge?

[@CoastfishTV]

First 🎣

[@brandytipene3817]

Actual footage would be a bonus. Rather than visualizing it in my mind.🤔

[@jennklein1917]

Jennifer watched this video 🎉🎉

[@charliekezza]

😅 add

[@maryhayes3177]

What's with all the drink-driving in Australia? Is it as bad as America. We don't tolerate that shit over here (UK).

[@garethadams9610]

Clean your loop if you expect it to potato wasp with flup flup winkle.

[@A_Ducky]

Reading this comment before watching: 😳🤔😶‍🌫️😵‍💫🫨

[@claresargent2171]

Lose the click bait titles casefile, please!

[@loredanadincu4300]

What was the click bait exactly?

[@patedwards8844]

I like the title

[@A_Ducky]

I mean.. it got me to click. 🤷

[@loredanadincu4300]

@A_Ducky there is no click bite. He put as a title the question that was on everyone's mind till they found him and after too. Because they didn't had a cause of death. So how exactly is that a click bait

[@tanyac3897]

The fact that they all have low IQ’s adds questions. However, they all made multiple confessions… and can’t help but feel it was an attempt to simply add more confusion to the case. They all agreed he came home, all agreed they killed him. I agree with the judge (though I believe they all were responsible)

[@susanh1292]

Sorry, this is too long, and drawn out. I'm turning it off.

[@rolandperlitz8508]

Who cares?

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

@@rolandperlitz8508you do, evidently! 😂😂😂

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

Why comment? Just move on.

[@brandenbennett9070]

Are you trying to be the next mr ballen? I love the work you guys do but get to the point. You could’ve got the same impression across in a lot less time in some parts. Im noticing it’s becoming a trend.

[@brandenbennett9070]

Mr ballen, eg: She woke up and turned her alarm off on her iphone with a bright pink metallic coated iphone case she got for her birthday from her nan Thats not a quote from mr ballin, thats my interpretation of the added 1min of crap that doesn’t need to be in the podcast

[@loredanadincu4300]

He can do whatever is his channel not yours. Do yours

[@A_Ducky]

Can't stand that guy. Don't remember his narratives, but I clearly remember him using those red arrows and circles on thumbnails.. as if he thinks the entire audience is brain damaged.

[@loredanadincu4300]

@@A_Ducky watch something else then. Is so simple

[@A_Ducky]

@@loredanadincu4300 Duh. Hence why I'm here and everywhere else but on that channel...and as of recently also That Chapter too, got annoyed by his "jokes"

[@tilda6125]

I love a good murder podcast always have and always will. i can not wait to listen to another one

[@cattmartyr8156]

love the new artwork style and casefile studio visualizer. looks great on the tv in the background while i clean house 🧽 🧹