According to the Qur'an, was Jesus crucified? YES or NO? with Mel & Murad

First broadcast on December 2, 2019 on Sneaker's Corner. Here Saint Murad looks at the Qur'an through a Syriac lens, with the help of Gabriel Sawma.

[@rodicacalota9724]

God bless you, Murad and Mel! 🙏🕊

[@alexandrew8554]

Isaiah 53:5-8 - But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. Does Islam recognise the book of Isaiah, and if it does, who was the prophet speaking about at the time?

[@BobMalik842]

@venenareligioest410*yawn*

[@T_Mike]

This was absolutely fascinating. Thank you. Would love you hear more of Murad.

[@yakovmatityahu]

Murad is always a pleasure listening to 🙏

[@Terabapu3156]

Brother Saint Murad is on fire🔥

[@hagalhagal9989]

love the snippets in between the conversations to clarify the points being discussed. It really helps understand what is being said :)

[@Friedrichsen]

Yes according to Quran he was killed and then rose from the dead

[@OksintasObones]

Gospel of Judas says opposite

[@therealkingbaldwin]

​@OksintasObones gospel of Judas is a gnostic pseudopigraphal forgery

[@dominicpereira6006]

​@@OksintasObonesJudas betrayed you.

[@OksintasObones]

@dominicpereira6006 nope he saved jesus

[@dominicpereira6006]

@OksintasObones Jesus is in heaven and muhammad is still in the grave waiting for Jesus to ressurect him and judge him

[@karenthompson1337]

Good to see Murad!! Goodness Mel. What a mess this book is eh?😊

[@mannyhabib2867]

Jazakallah Murad! Your avatar needs a pair of cool shades.

[@MultiMark2]

long time no hear from bro murad

[@dondon9081]

What a confirmation !! This now exposes a latter nefarious narrative.

[@Nous86]

Koran 3:169 “And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allāh as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision” Hence the Koran says it appeared to them as if he was dead but in actuality he did not die, while the body appeared it was suffering, the soul wasn’t suffering at all. Yahushua says 19:33 “Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I will be raised back to life!” This clearly shows in the Koran Yahushua did die but probably didn’t taste the bitterness of death.

[@dominicpereira6006]

Who says this Give proof

[@Nous86]

@ the proof is in the words, in the comment itself!

[@LloydDeJongh]

First!

[@Friedrichsen]

Mel, what is your hypothesis for the compilation of the Quran? Do you have a video on this?

[@IslamicOrigins]

From what I can tell it appears to have been compiled under Abd Al Malik, based on materials that were notes of an itinerant Judeo-Nazarene group from the 620s-630s.

[@Friedrichsen]

@@IslamicOrigins Ok thanks for the response

[@ultrasignificantfootnote3378]

About Quran 4 : 157 .... "those who differ over it are in doubt about it " but some could be convinced about it and differ with others who are convinced of the opposite. It is a false claim.

[@BobMalik842]

Great stuff keep it up!

[@Stardust475]

Joe of RedJudaism was saying this a while back!

[@maryjemyfreeman7639]

Murad what happened to ur translation of quraan into english

[@frost2legit]

yes Christ was crucified. period.

[@Satarack]

If this theory is correct, then what about the theory that the Quran borrows the denial of the crucifixion from gnostic sources? Would it just be a coincidence of mistranslation?

[@123dsj123]

Mohammed claimed he received the following eternal revelation from his god (Allah). Quran 2:144 reads, ‘Verily! We (Allah) have seen the turning of your face toward the heaven; and surely, we shall turn you to a Qibla (a prayer direction) that shall please you.” This verse, in antiquity, argues for only two different directions for early Qiblas: (1) Jerusalem and (2) Mecca. The problem arises when almost all the early Qiblas, within the first 200 years after Mohammed’s death, point to a third city - the ancient City of Petra. * The second and third problems are just as puzzling: Why are there no archaeological ruins (findings) in Mecca - the first human inhabited city in all of existence - the original home of 90-foot-tall Adam and Eve along with as many as over 124,000 the prophets, or a mention of the City of Mecca on any ancient map before the 10th century A.D.? * We understand many of Allah’s eternal decrees for mankind - one of which is the “iddah” (or the three months waiting period) for infants before they can get re-married to another husband. Quran 65:4 reads, “As for your women who have no monthly menstruation (i.e., too young to menstruate), their “iddah” (waiting period after divorce) is three months.” How can we inject into our societies these kinds of heathenistic (gruesome and barbaric) practices if we can find no evidence of Mecca, Mohammed, or the Quran existing before the height of the Abbasid Dynasty (or Caliph) in Baghdad, Iraq, in the 10th century A.D.? * Can you, then, understand our concerns when Islamic theology says, “Muslims, when compared to us, are the superior human beings ever created?” Quran 3:110 reads, “You (Muslims) are the best of people ever raised up for mankind.” In Hadith Riyas as-Salihin 1839, Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, explains Quran 3:110: “The best people for mankind are those who bring them (mankind) with chains around their necks till they embrace Islam…”

[@AustinOKeeffe]

I remember this Sneaker's Corner video. But this interpretation - ''And they killed Jesus son of Mary, the messenger of Allah, what they slew, and what they crucified, and to you, the women who .....'' makes no sense to me.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Hi.with the woman talk,it could be to do with 👉 in NT where the women who witnessed resurrected Christ,they where not believed when they told the males that they seen resurrected Christ.

[@JavedIqbal-mp8bh]

keep it up up up up💪💪💪

[@frankle9617]

What is this channel about? Are u muslim of Christian?

[@carefullychristian8657]

Can you muslims reconcile the other verses in quran 3 v 54 to 55 5 v 115 to 116 The word mutawefeeka is used and refers to cause to die or terminate on his life on earth. Then 19 v 34 can u ecplain Then tbe hadith As if i see a prophet who was beaten so badly by his own people and bled on his face and he said forgive them they dont know You put together what you read on gospels and follow conjecture MANY HISTORIANS CONCLUDE JESUS PF NAZARETH DIED OF CRUCIFICTION DURING REIGN OFCTIBERIOYS CEASER WHEN PONTOOUS PILATE WAS GOVERNOR OF ROMAN PROVINCE OF JUDEA AND CAIAPHAS JOSEPH WAS HIGH PRIEST HISTORIANS

[@williamgarayua5878]

🏴‍☠️All of their JIHAD and violent conflicts for praising & trusting in The Best of All Deceivers instead of doing research to find TRUTH that Delivers. ⚖️🌍🕊 🆚️ 🏴‍☠️📗🏴‍☠️

[@AlonzoHarris235]

This doesn’t make any sense. The text is Arabic. The grammar is Arabic. The word walakin (but) shows the negative. This means wama means NOT. The verse makes no sense in Syriac. It’s not even Syriac grammar or a sentence.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Hi.the word walakin may be just a root of LKN. LKN may not mean But. In Urdu that root is seeming as being used for the word Laykin which means But in Urdu.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Even MA as in Meem+Alif as meaning No/Not ,seems faulty. Meem+Alif is the same as a Meem ,when it comes to sounds that are producable.Hence two written forms eg letter Meem and combined letters of Meem+Alif are the same. Also Meem upside down is same as Meem+Alif in writing. Alif/Alpha I feel is not for joining to other letters.

[@Mr.CabadoTrucking]

Why don’t you say that the Qurān says and We make them to believe that Isa Ibn Maryam was crucified but he wasn’t we elevated him to us ( to heaven ). Yes actually there was a crucifixion but wasn’t Jesus the one in that cross.

[@fikarzlf8669]

😂😂😂... ndagel....yen ra dong ngarit wae tong

[@ThereIsNoGodbutMohammad]

Mel: Thanks to you and the others who have been exposing mohammadanism, people are waking up. An Iranian ex-mohammadan, now catholic, has an interesting discussion with Ali Dawah: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZOvqImFZ7xmmKM

[@IslamicOrigins]

I watched it there. A great discussion..👍

[@syedasimali668]

This is not an honest talk. Its a marvellous example of isogesis, reading his Christian creed into the pure holy text of the Quran and trying to prove the false theology of Paul. The false dogma of trinity is totally rejected by not only by the Muslims but also by the Jews. The purely idolatrous and polytheistic belief of Paul’s is a cocktail of Greco-Roman and Hindu idolatrous creeds. It’s a grand deviation from pure Abrahamic monotheism. Apply your wisdom to your own Scripture and see what happens.

[@tabirkebenaran2065]

Wow

[@yusufabdullah4760]

AlHamdullillah, this is also found in the Book Galatians 3:1 " You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified." Key word.. "portrayed". Isa was not crucified even according to their book.

[@barrywhite36]

This is ridiculous There are many books in the bible which go into detail that he was crucified, clearly , no debate on that. Your taking one quote to fit your narrative. Read all the other books in the New Testament Even Roman historians , and history books clearly state Jesus was crucified.

[@Indah-tjs]

@yusufabdullah Yes, in Galatians it says "portrayed," but in the sense of depicted, represented. Why are Muslims always obsessed with puns that prove nothing? - Out of sheer desperation! They are commanded to believe that sexual abuse of little prepubescent girls is perfectly normal and that it is the commandment of their imaginary God that those of other faiths should be insulted, persecuted and killed, etc., etc. Paul calls the Galatians "foolish," and asks: who has bewitched them? When Paul was there, they had clearly understood the simple truth of the gospel of God's grace. They understood the power of the cross. Paul said they saw it with their own eyes when he described it to them. Did someone use magic to steal away the truth from them? Are they under an evil spell? Paul is not really suggesting that some kind of hex is at work; he is making the point that this is such a foolish lie that it is as if someone is manipulating their beliefs against their will. Try harder! 😂😂

[@cq4544]

Isa is not killed! Woow.. Then why you Islamist put the blame on"Jews" to be the Slayer of Masih the Son of Mary!

[@Indah-tjs]

@@cq4544 I'll tell you why... All such Muslim statements result from a total insecurity.... Mary, the mother of Jesus, is the daughter of Emran, the sister of Aaron and Moses (a full time time traveler).... a hoopoo chicken was a general... Muhammad could travel on a flying mule at the speed of light.... Ants speak to an Islamic "prophet"... the sun sets in a muddy pool.... the earth is flat... and a character "Isa" invented in the 8th century is supposed to represent Jesus.... - The fairy tales of Cinderella and Little Red Riding Hood are a hundred times more credible... The sad thing is that this Islamist Trojan virus is not easy to get out of uncritical minds....

[@yusufabdullah4760]

@@barrywhite36 Of note, each "version" is not 1st hand. Consensus amonst Christian scholars is the 4 gospels were from one version of the story(see Galatians 1:6). Also, 99 percent of today's Bibles omit a key fact. On the day of the crucifixion, there were two other "criminals they say " that were to be crucified. One was named "Barabbas". He was released. Barabbas' first name was Jesus. His lasr name, "Barabbas" means: "Bar"="son/servant" of "Abbas"="father/Creator ". So the one that was released was named Jesus servant of the Creator ("Jesus son of the Father" to some who are Christian). From your Muslim friend 😉