Accurately Spaced Holes Tips 523 pt 1 tubalcain experiment

[@electromechanicalstuff2602]

Just watched a guy drill holes for 20 mins and yet i cant wait to see part 2.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@electromechanicalstuff2602]

@Jacob Maddux spam

[@Daledavispratt]

You just go ahead and talk all you want...another great video! Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)

[@75Bird455]

Exactly! I enjoy the talking/humor/rants.

[@MrPatdeeee]

Amen, amen and AMEN!

[@wr5610]

This is what I love about KZbin - I get to learn from some truly skilled people. Well Done and Thank You Pete!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@normjacques6853]

Mr. Pete...I know that the 'experts' suggest keeping videos short....under twenty minutes. Millenial attention spans are notoriously short! I'm not sure that that 'rule' applies to absorbing wisdom and experience from a generous master of his trade! Many of us agree, I'm sure: Keep talking until either you're sure you've gotten your point across, or you're tired...whichever comes *last*! As a former shop teacher, myself (electronics), I'll keep listening (and learning) for as long as you feel like talking!! Thank you for sharing with us all. :-)

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for that advice. It is always good to hear from another shop teacher

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Amen, we're not all millenials either, we _want_ to learn here!

[@markfryer9880]

Around 20 minutes has the advantage of being watchable during a break.

[@joshwalker5605]

Im not so sure about the needless insult of the younger generation but I agree, love the longer content. I'm sure the ten-minute rule applies to some subjects but it definitely doesn't apply to you. Just my 2¢.

[@dunxy]

You need to give yourself way more credit Mr Pete,i know im not alone in being more than happy to listen to you talk about any subject ive ever seen you bring up,this certainly includes jig borers! I know what they are, have seen one but never seen one operate.This whole video is brilliant and very interesting indeed.Im a baby by comparison but even in my apprentice days (the 90's) in mytrade (sheety) manual stuff was still ruling, digital stuff was frowned upon by all tradesmen and only used by laborours who couldn't read vernier scale.We had only once CNC machine, a 100 ton ish press brake and another bigger one with basic NC, but everything else was old school.

[@wayneparris3439]

Good morning. Retired tool maker and long time tool inspector here. Yep, done all of those and more :D The optical center we called "bomb sights" and we made our own which is pretty easy to do. The error likely came from two things. 1 the use. I was taught to always rotate the bomb sight through 360 deg. You can see the cross hairs "wobble" around the scribe lines. You then center the scribe lines by evenly centering them to the cross hairs. 2, I don't trust that magnet enough to take it out of the box. Our drill blocks were always clamped to the work to prevent movement and we used slip renuable drill bushings through the drill block to drill accurate and square holes even with a hand held drill. That is quite handy when standing on a ladder etc. Another thing we would do is after the lines are scribed, we would use a transfer punch through the bushing and drill block while picking up the first Starrett punched mark. If you punched correctly, the hole was really darn close to where the prick punch was made... and square with a hand drill. Good video! This is the stuff not taught anymore in schools!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@redgrittybrick]

One reason I like this kind of video is because it clearly shows the value of experience in depth. I guess knowing a half-dozen different ways to get something done means you don't really ever get truly stuck wondering how best to proceed. It is very pleasing to learn these hints and tips. Looking forward to part 2.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@mrc1539]

Lyle, go get the cataract surgery , it easy peasy and it works . I’ve had both eyes done and it’s amazing the difference. It is a little inconvenient for a few days and relatively painless, but well worth it. Best of luck to you .

[@MrPatdeeee]

I could not agree more. I have had both of mine done and I love it. When it was first done, I had 20-20 vision in both eyes. That was 15 yrs ago and I now need glasses for reading. Again, please do this Mr Pete. You will wonder why you waited so long. The science today is so good that they could almost do it in their office. There is NO pain and it is fast. Promise dear brother! Really

[@TraitorVek]

I knew someone once had that procedure done. They are now a New Person, with 'Vision'. - Get it Done Sun. Praying Ain't Gonna Help.

[@MrPatdeeee]

@@TraitorVek Now just how do you know that "Praying A'int Gonna Help"? Huh? Mr Pete is a Born Again Christian. He KNOWS praying helps. I am proof positive that it helps. NOT all praying works; because of sin and "testing" by Jesus. Oh indeed Yes! But I can tell you that thousands of my prayers over the last 86 yrs has helped. Finally: if it was not for prayer and Jesus, I would be stone cold dead in the grave. Now prove that is not true!

[@commando340]

@@TraitorVek i disagree with your statement. my wife has cataract surgery on both eyes and we prayed first. I welcome the Lord's hand over what my doctor does.

[@markthompson8656]

Yes, Lyle get the cataract surgery done, I have warn glasses since I was in 3rd grade. I am 61 now. I am a truck driver my vision got to 20 /40 in my right eye. So I needed to get it done to continue to work. Now my rt. Eye is 20/15 better sight at 61 than I ever had in my life. And now I don't need glasses. Only to read close up with right eye. When it became time to do left eye. I had dr. Put in lens for reading. So now i see perfectly long distance with right eye and perfice 20/20 close for reading with mt left eye!

[@habaristra6248]

I truly appreciate all the mrpete222's videos. My mentor Tool and Die maker, 50 years ago, taught me to scribe the lines and then use a Jeweler's Loupe to find the target. Wiggle the point of a scribe into the material at the intersection of the lines and then use that divet for the center punch.

[@kenhutchens513]

I love learning from you mrpete. You have no idea how much I have learned and use in my own shop and in life. You are a great man, thank you for everything you have done sir.

[@GUCR44]

Hey man I just want to say that you are a great teacher! Thank you for the education.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Yes, he's the best. Teachers like Mr. Pete are a true asset to the profession.

[@blfstk1]

Mr. Pete, get those cataracts taken care of. I had replacement lenses put in, with surgery, a year ago. My vision went from 20/800 to 20/30. I can now see better than I have in my whole life. I am almost 73, so we are contemporaries. Love your videos. Keep on talking. Us Tubalcainiacs love it. We don't mind at all. Listen to Mr.C. Be well.

[@mcgam2000]

I think you mean that the dowl pins are 2/10000 over not 2/1000 over....

[@chrishoesing5455]

Your time and efforts to make these videos is appreciated more than you know. Your knowledge and experience are bar none, along with your delivery on video. I bet you created a lot of interest in your students over the years that turned into lucrative careers for many of them. I would have so enjoyed to be in your classes in high school. Thank you for spending your time to do these videos for the world. By the way, I totally agree with your opinions on using a vice in the drill press, I do the same.

[@the4thj]

I was taught something I wasn't taught in school. Thank you mrpete I am getting my surface table ready for my plate.

[@MaturePatriot]

None of your videos are too long. They all seem to fly by. I like the oil cup that is on the drill press. My mom and dad both had cataract surgery and did not regret it, except my mom said she didn't know how wrinkled she was until the surgery. LOL Stay well my friend.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks lol

[@royreynolds108]

My wife and I both had cataracts removed and only need readers if we want. I am 72 and had it done about 10 yrs ago. Have not regretted it.

[@paulmanson253]

@@mrpete222 There are those of us with less than before. Make sure you pick a surgeon with many successful cataract surgeries. My eye is much worse with a man made lens in it. I cannot read with my right eye. Do not be afraid and best of luck to you.

[@mrpete222]

@@paulmanson253 tHATS EXACTLY WHAT i AM AFRAID OF. My family doctor had to retire last fall--do to failed eye surgery

[@paulmanson253]

@@mrpete222 Put up with those eyes as long as you are willing to struggle with them. Then as I say, do homework to find the best darn guy in the county. (old time saying) . Then one eye at a time,and good fortune go with you.

[@pgs8597]

G’day Lyle, as soon as I saw the 4 dowel pins in the plate it brought me back 46 years to when I was a 1st year apprentice motor mechanic, 3 months of hand tool use. 1 exercise was to drill 2 blocks with 4 holes each with a 1” pattern, fit dowel pins in one and see if the other block would fit, wait for it, 8 ways. I achieved a 6 way fit, it’s amazing what steady hands and good eyesight can achieve. As I reflect today, how DID a 16 year old kid do it, I can only surmise the Railways had competent teachers. Cheers Peter PS I don’t think I could do it today

[@johnb7889]

I wish this site had been around 40 years ago. You would have saved me a lot of do-overs!

[@felixf5211]

I'm not a great hobby machinist. Some things turn out well, most need work. My layout skills are horrible. I'm watching and practicing along with the video. Can't thank you enough!

[@luckybookairvids]

Mr.pete your shared knowledge and skill is something that feeds family's and betters lives, a true hero in my eyes and youtubes best trade shop teacher there is.. thanks for all your time invested in us.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for that heart felt comment. I really appreciate it

[@panaviaman]

Hi from England,we all like your posts,I have watch hundreds of your videos and improved my lathe accurateness on my little lathe by watching shop tips 90 and shop tips186 Vertical Shearing ,the finish is as good as I have ever had,every machines should watch them all 😁many thanks keep it up😂😁😀

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much. I'm glad you had success in Marry old England

[@MrEFHATCH1990]

I’m so glad you’re willing to share your knowledge with us, ive been using the skills you’ve shown me with these videos to better myself pretty much every day.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@davidpeterson5186]

My sister was listening to your video and recommended you get surgery. Many of her friends have been happy with the results. Get it done she says. The King Tut hands happen when you get old so it is better than the alternative.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@douglaswhite9095]

Thanks for the tips on drilling holes I like the deep scribe line .you had me on the size of the dowel pins when I was looking at the box saw .0002 thanks for clearing that up and I am some what older then then you keep the video going because their is nothing on TV thanks for now.

[@galbar-or7851]

Really liked that one - I appreciate the time taken with all the detail and can't wait to see the followup.

[@rosswaring2835]

“Looking through cataracts the size of a Carp’s scale”...ha ha Mr Pete, hilarious...I know how that feels!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@75Bird455]

I love these basic layout videos. Anyone can chuck up a twist drill and start punching holes, but when it matters - can you be accurate with their location? This just makes me want to get a surface plate and height gauge. Thanks for the lesson!

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@TXHeat1776]

Agreed, thank you Mr. Pete

[@aceroadholder2185]

Bird, another method as others have mentioned, is the use of tool maker's buttons. Lyle isn't going to show them, as they are fiddly to use..but they do work. You need a drill press with a good spindle and quill, micrometers, and test indicator. Buttons work on the lathe too if your holes need snap ring grooves or stepped holes, ect. Buttons are probably the most inexpensive way to locate holes within 0.001" . You do need to be this close if you are doing something like locating shafts for gears on a plate. Here shown in use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4G5Zmefg6eiZ68 And here is a article showing the use of buttons with castings you might see in model making where you might need to accurately locate a hole to features on the other side of the casting. neme-s.org/Model_Engineer_Files/3007-Use of Toolmaker Buttons.pdf

[@gangleweed]

@@aceroadholder2185 A DRO is the way to go.

[@clifffiftytwo]

Another entertaining and informative video. Your sense of how long it should be and the level of detail is spot on. Got my cataracts fixed and the difference is amazing. Cataract surgery is not like what we used to think of - it is so good you wonder why they didn't do it when you were 13 years old and save 60 years of glasses. You can even tell them you want better distance vision or better close-up vision or do one eye each way.

[@chuckthebull]

Enjoyed your vid as usual. I come specifically for the rambling...HA...But also I wanted to show you that belt system I created for my walker turner I mentioned to you in another one of your video's ..(man i love that drill press. best 60 bucks at a yard sale i ever spent)..And redid the bearings and she works great, Below is the link to a picture of the belt system i did years ago but pardon my crap welds i was still learning..but its accurate and works like a charm. so for anyone that does not mind doing it without the electronics method this is a quick and easy way. the bearings have clips on them and the pipe was machined out to make a sort of spindle with just the right diameter for the bearings to tight fit but ease of disassembly if i have to change a bearing. cheers and tanks again these are great tips you are sharing, They all go into my brains tool box for use when needed. drive.google.com/file/d/1NivORcfCqqNLd87e9y3fpfmZV8RH6EKs/view?usp=sharing

[@magpieblue]

Thank you so much. I am one of those newbies. I’ve been messing with metal and tools all my life but never had talent or teachers. It’s great that you share your experience and various methods not just one. Your humour and presentation style is great. You remind me of my gran in Las Vegas with that modesty and humour.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much, keep watching

[@ralphgould2783]

Mr. Pete, I don't know your situation as far as your eyes. You appear to be near sighted. I had cataracts 5 years ago. I had vision of 20/650 since 8th grade. The options were they could correct for reading or distance. They can also correct for astigmatism. I opted for distance. I am 20/20 in one eye and 20/25 in the other, and can drive without glasses. I wear bifocals with little correction in the top half and the bottom for reading. I do have a set of trifocals safety glasses for the shop. The dials on my lathe and mill are at mid distance and the third lens sharpens them up. The operation was pretty easy. Enjoy your videos and they are never too long. I'm sure when you were teaching your class periods were 50 to 55 minutes long. I have no issues with attention span for that length of time. Happy New Year and looking forward to more videos.

[@mrpete222]

I need to go to the eye doctor again, thank you for the comment. I have a stigmatism, and always have

[@yambo59]

King Tuts hands--lol Sir if your hands - a teachers hands - could speak, the stories they could tell not to mention how much good they have done for so many of your students both past and present, and still showing layout accuracy near a thousandth - must have been spot on in your youth-! Not bad at all for 75 yrs.-! Mr. Pete you are a YT treasure, thanks for sharing all your years of experience and knowledge.

[@markfryer9880]

Couldn't agree more with that fine comment.

[@Marie579]

"My hands look like king tuts"! priceless and well informative thank you very much.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@thomaslamora1679]

Jig Bore!!!! I am a reliability engineer at Xerox (in Rochester, NY). for years i have walked through the manufacturing plant here past a "special" room called a Jig Bore Room. I have always been very curious about what the meant. Thanks for the slight digression that partially answers that. BTW - keep up the great work on videos. I always learn something interesting.

[@mrpete222]

They probably have that as a designated area for the Percision work. I'm not even sure they use them much anymore. And I have never used one myself. Thanks for the peek into the IBM factory

[@wlwomack7794]

The center punch uses a “Bomb Sight” for locating the punch location. I have several of these that I purchased and a couple that I actually made years ago. Thanks for the videos Mr. Pete, I enjoy all of these.

[@OldIronLover]

Interesting to put a number on the accuracy of these methods. I have always assumed the optical center was a step up. Looking forward to the 2nd part.

[@sfahadrizvi]

The best thing about this video is you know exactly when to turn off the volume. Great video

[@dougvanallen2212]

Mr Pete really enjoying this series your doing better than I would

[@habibalavi2780]

Mr. Pete, Thank you very much for providing us such great instructional videos. I do learn a lot from them.

[@rustymachineshop9456]

Mr Pete so sorry to hear aboult u brother I know u talked a lot about him he must have been a special man thanks for u video's I enjoy them very much

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@dannyl2598]

Yes I am enjoying this video and looking forward to the next one. Thank you Mr Pete.

[@MyHeap]

Great presentation Mr. Pete. Definitely a great lecture and demonstration for us newbies! Thank you sir. Joe

[@jorda.2412]

5 min in and I can't wait for part 2. Heading to buddy's machine shop for a bit of work on his 71 fastback mustang...no holes to punch today

[@mrpete222]

Part two will be on tomorrow morning

[@jt8251]

I absolutely love my optical center punch. One of my favorite tools.

[@stxrynn]

Very informative. I wouldn't have guessed the follow the furrow would be that accurate.

[@Aubreykun]

I am not a machinist, but I find these kinds of videos very helpful for both "when I need it" situations and to have the knowledge so I can direct friends to it, so thank you. It really is useful for anyone that needs precise drilling, and combining methods 1 and 2 - square and prick punch - I think gives a level of precision that works for DIY, repair and craft work. Your videos are the "popular mechanics" of the internet age, I think. I think that the best part of this video was hearing the cameron press working. On camera it almost looks like a toy from how small it is, but the sound of it was the hum of precision. Although, I think spotting with it may have thrown off your last holes. It didn't seem to "grab" the punch marks from the one you showed like the other press did, or at least it didn't look like it did it as well on camera. Maybe not powerful enough for the piece? Your direct to 15/64" vs progressing from 1/8" looked like it had some promise, since there's less drilling operations and it potentially saves time, I hope you explore things like that in the future.

[@mrpete222]

The little drill press can only be appreciated by handling it, using it and examining it carefully. It is quite a machine

[@COBARHORSE1]

Thanks for muting the sound when using power tools. And I really like when you talk about how things used to be years ago. Or how things have changed over the years. I hope you are around for many more years.

[@mrpete222]

Me too, thanks

[@ShercoBill]

I am sorry to here your brother is ill. I wish the best for him

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jamescole3152]

Really cool. I watched closely because I was learning so much.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@keithparady2594]

Very good stuff and a wicked good teacher

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@davidjames1007]

Thank you Sir, very interesting I was just getting warmed up when you finished up 😂 looking forward to the follow on.

[@johndean4365]

I just recently found your videos. I really enjoy watching and learning

[@mrpete222]

I'm glad you found me, welcome. You have 1000 videos to watch in order to catch up, LOL

[@strokedriedrie]

I thought I saw my mummy hands, they look the same it's age I think?! Great video! Waiting for the next one! Thanks, Mr. Pete.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@ericcorse]

This is going to be an interesting series can't wait for the rest. Between your cadillac's and prostrate you must have a hard life LOL, I'm not far behind you.

[@andrewabbot1380]

What a great idea for a video. Always interesting mister Pete

[@PeterPetrakis]

Timeless wisdom. Thank you.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@johnapel2856]

Interesting comparison. I'm looking forward to part 2. Thanks.

[@Tryin2FlyII]

Fantastic information mrpete!!! Can't wait for part 2 but so far I like the number two method

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@kandkmotorsports]

I always resorted to drilling the holes bigger than I need to get the bolt holes to line up!.....Thanks for the video :)

[@mrpete222]

I must confess to often doing that myself

[@pyromedichd1]

Another great informative video Mr. Pete. One method you didn't mention, that is old school, is toomaker's buttons. Granted their use is more time consuming than the methods you are showing but accuracy, if you don't have a DRO is very good, even with home made buttons.True, most people don't have any, including myself, until I made some of my own from drill rod and they work quite well. Perhaps that is a suggestion for yet another couple of videos, home made toolmaker's buttons and their use. Thanks for once again taking the time to make these videos.

[@rdon53]

Lots of combinations that can mess things up, anyway happy to see part 2.

[@JamesDedmon]

The amount of error is interesting, this is despite the great care you took in being accurate. On the cataracts I understand that they have to get to a certain point before removing them, or at least that was the case with mother. When she had the surgery she could actually read without glasses. Again I feel for you, and your brother, mother had to spend her last 5 years in a local nursing facility before she passed a few months ago, at least I could visit her frequently. I’m glad you’re using the oil cups, that was my reasoning for sending them up, it’s handy to have enough of them so you can place them close to all the machines.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Certainly a great topic to feature, some surprising results for sure. Enjoy your day :)

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@RRINTHESHOP]

The Great Experiment. Nice to demo all of these together. Sonora where Cameron is, it is only about 1.5 hrs north of us.

[@mrpete222]

Really that's almost next-door

[@1995jug]

Good lesson Mr. Pete never seen a cross hair center punch very neat.

[@AbdusSalam-cu2fo]

You are great, people learning from you..

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@edmundmatthews3180]

I'm surprised with the optical layout result. Even with cataracts it should have been better. I have one replaced lens and the other cataract needs to be removed. Overall, as you say it's close enough for most work. A few years back you did some layout comparisons like this. The DRO is my bet. Under 0.001 inch. Thanks again for your expertise and years of wisdom. You are the best!

[@ypaulbrown]

Mr Peterson, wonderful wonderful wonderful....I am a big fan of #2 technique...... .my cohorts use sharpie markers and think they can get accuracy, I laugh when they have to come back and hand drill /ream with he drill bit when they go to assemble the item......best wishes from a 70 year old in Orlando, FL, Paul

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

Another great Mr.Pete video, looking forward to part 2. Dang now I need to shop for a height gage... -Dean

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@savage11smw33]

Thanks for another awesome video as always. Im slowly learning what all the tools I inherited from my grandfather are for and how to use them. I wish I would have chose to be a machinist instead of a sheet metal worker. Thoughts and prayers sent to your brother.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jimmodesto721]

I’m 75 also with cataracts and am about to have them removed, because like you my vision is poor and I also enjoy working in my shop, but need magnification to see the small details Everyone I know who have had the surgery said they can’t believe what a difference it has made in their lives. Have you ever considered getting them removed? Thanks for your many informative videos, very helpful.

[@dreadnaught2707]

Very useful & informative. @Mr Pete Have you ever used toolmakers buttons for accurate positioning?

[@mrpete222]

I have a set, but have not use them

[@MrShobar]

Real old-school. But effective.

[@mechaform]

I’d like to see the buttons in use, as well.

[@unionse7en]

for those curious: johnfsworkshop.org/home/tools-for-measuring/measuring-etc-toolmakers-buttons/

[@stanervin6108]

Howdy! If you have the opportunity or motivation to do a video on the making of round tuits, it would be appreciated. The older I get, the more I seem to misplace mine. That Jig Borer you spoke of early in this video is still used in Mom & Pop old school tool shops.

[@mrpete222]

Good to know

[@trialnterror]

What are round tuits?

[@stumcconnel]

@@trialnterror The lack of one is often used as a reason to put off doing something until later. E.g., "I'll do that when I get a round tuit"

[@markfryer9880]

I.E. I will put something on my round to it file, like an old Rolodex, a series of file cards wrapped /fanned around a small cylinder. As you list the jobs and fill it up you get back to your first round to it job. So then you do that job and on it goes.

[@TheRedlaser666]

Excellent video as usual! I'm surprised at how accurate the prick punch can get with good layouts. Looking forward to PT2.

[@Ratkill]

This is exactly what I wanted to know! Thank you!

[@ActiveAtom]

Oh come on micro drill Cameron knows how to drill the starters anyways (he has daily oilers), we love that little guy. Teacher mr.pete word of the day or lesson "acute" you are very sharp at this angle. Great video many people struggle (meaning us included) with hole to hole dimensions.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@shannonstebbens6992]

Great teaching video. I eagerly await the next part. I just finished a little project this evening that required 5 holes in three pieces of material with decent accuracy. Piece of cake with a mill and DRO but I'm not so sure I could duplicate your precision with layout. It is nice to see a basic refresher on shop procedures.

[@rolans2858]

Great video as always. I'll be the first to admit I am a newbie. But, is there a way to measure accurately between center punch holes? I think this would be a better gauge as to better method of measurement. It will eliminate the variables (errors) created by using different drills and vices and sometimes no vices, I'm referring to your comment at 8:10 about using vices to prevent the work from floating away. The errors caused by drills & vices, or lack thereof, are not related to the six measuring methods which was main content of these 2 videos.

[@mrpete222]

Use a dividers

[@DavidHerscher]

I am willing to bet that the optical center punch has a great capacity to move when inserting the punch and striking it. The "following the furl" method seemed to be the most accurate, and even logically seems to me to carry the greatest chance of success. Just goes to show, sometimes there's no reason so re-invent the wheel. The old timers knew what they were doing.

[@larryschweitzer4904]

Your result match mine. My vision is less than ideal, 76 years old. If I use my ht. gage on the granite and deeply scribe I can feel the cross point. Better yet is the DRO on the mill. But even that isn't perfect since my very used mill has a lot more wear near the center of travel. When I installed and calibrated the DRO I went through many iterations and finally settled on a bit of error. I really do like having the DRO. Equally spaced holes are now dead easy even if they need to be at an angle to the X or Y travel or on a bolt hole circle.

[@mrpete222]

Yes thanks

[@junglejammer1]

I have a very old book with plans in it for an optical center punch like your Skidmore and for the cross hair material, the specify spider web!

[@BobSmith-cx4og]

Happy New Year Lyle and family - thank you for all the great videos.

[@bobblack3870]

The comment by Anthony Ruddy seemed to catch what I caught. For #3, your pilot drilling in the video showed a bit that was deflecting (curving) because the drill bit was not centered over the punch mark. If the same thing happened with the larger bit, then that explains a lot. I am going to guess that as you went through these examples that your care to detail, or eyesight, started to slip. A very interesting and educational video.

[@joecallaco6264]

Great demo , thanks mr. Pete

[@robmckennie4203]

I once read a most excellent book on precision machine work, and one of the ways that author recommended to accurately punch at the intersection of two scribe lines was to make a special punch guide with 3 sharpened feet, two of which fell into one scribe line, and the third fell into the other. More accurate than trying to feel the intersection with the punch, and easier to make than an optical center punch, if optical center punches existed at the time. I ought to find the name and post it here, it was freely available from some online archive

[@outsidescrewball]

enjoyed...and had layout issues by hand the other day as the two target holes were tight fits....curious, it looked like the drill bit spotting in the cameron wandered as it touched the set?

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

It's okay, it was finding and following the center punch.

[@bigmikeh5827]

Mr Pete, I have found center drills to be critical to hole alignment. never realized how much a regular drill bit would move even in a lathe. Just a suggestion. Great videos and thank you for the work you put into these vids.

[@commando340]

i really enjoy this because i have faced such errors when i was trying so hard to do something perfect. since i have bought a 1968 Bridgeport with DRO, i use it when i want something done right on the nats nose. BTW- ELK is delicious.

[@brianwarburton4482]

Another excellent video. Very informative and useful.

[@abywater]

Another interesting video Mr. Pete! When you mentioned the possibilty of the work being hand-held and maybe moving, I was wondering if it might help (assuming you were drilling into metal on a metal base) to place a magnet onto the work which would help to prevent slight hand movements. Also, why not check for concentricity before drilling by lowering the bit without it turning, getting it spot-on, then drilling. I did notice the drill wandering before it bit into the work. Looking forward to the next installment!

[@mrpete222]

That is a possibility

[@noelrieusset718]

Hey Mr Pete, What about tool makers buttons....

[@Wooley689]

On the last one you did, looked to me as if the drill bit flexed a bit which caused it to wander at the start. Leads me to think the plate was not in line with the bit when you began. Just an observation, done that to many times myself when holding a piece like that.

[@mealex303]

Lyle I would cherish that anvil you have there till I die your a lucky lucky man.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@4SafetyTraining]

Now I can start my morning

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@johnbuell8035]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Great video.

[@JJCGCAZ]

Great video, great explanation, you just got a new subscriber Sr!!

[@daveknowshow]

fascinating to see the results.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@williamhardin5254]

Great video. I am 71 years old and I have one of the optical center punches and I always seem to get different results with it. I like the prick punch best myself. I have also noticed that you need to have a good center punch which ground very precisely to a point. Results are never going to be better than the tools you are using to achieve the result.

[@mrpete222]

Yes I do not like the optical center Punch have seldom used it. I have 75 Center ponchos. I need to sharpen some of them on thelathe. Using a tool post a grinder

[@hankus253]

Hey Lyle, I remember these video treats from the 50's... they were called CLIFF HANGERS!!

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@AJR2208]

That was a great lesson Lyle - I think it was the 1/16th bit that let you down in #3 (drill deflection)........

[@wansolve2036]

I think #3 was correctly punched, the small diameter drill bit in that precision drill press "walked" on you. It may have better to use a more stout Center Drill in that drill press to pilot the hole. Great video Mr Pete.

[@dalemcinnes1834]

I seen that also on the first hole that he drilled so thought that the pins would not be accurate. Very nice to learn and sure enjoyed the video. Now I will be able to watch the next one. Dale in Canada