9-BALL: EFREN REYES vs Shane VAN BOENING - 2016 DERBY CITY CLASSIC 9-BALL DIVISION

9-BALL - USA’s SHANE VAN BOENING and EFREN REYES from the Philippines met up in the final sixteen players at the 2016 Derby City Classic 9-Ball division. Van Boening was a four time US Open 9-Ball Champion at the time, as well as a two time Derby City Classic Master of the Table. Reyes was a five time Master of the Table and was a 2003 inductee into the BCA Hall of Fame.
Mark Wilson and Danny DiLiberto were in the booth.
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[@bobbyt223]

Any other APA players here? I’m a fairly new Apa player but have been playing in pool halls for years and years. This is may of 2024 and my second session of 9 ball and will be playing in my first tri cups this coming weekend and will be playing in singles in October to go to Vegas. And I wil admit, I wish I would’ve started playing Apa years ago. It’s fun, meet lots of new players and gives you a reason to keep your game sharp and continue striving to improve your game. And I still play in money tournaments bc, well, there’s nothing better than playing in a tourism d moving up bracket by bracket until you take the cash home. Great feeling

[@marklinder-s3x]

just watched Accu States Premiere with Efren/CJ Wiley. 1994. (9/12/2023) Now this loads next, 2016. 20 years later, and still Accu-Stats and Still Efren. AMAZING!

[@willstuart4504]

Man I remember watching Reyes in the early 90's play 1.000 pool for a few different matches. I think these guys have at least 1 or 2 of his perfect matches? Anyway, it crazy to think he's still competitive at his age??👏👏👏👏

[@神奇阿祥]

🤩～真的是千年難遇的奇才！

[@andrewverrett568]

Reyes being competitive for 30 plus years is an accomplishment. Don't really know of anyone else that's done it that long still making it high up in the field

[@williamhall7349]

Then you don’t know pool

[@egomana9329]

@@williamhall7349 ok Mr. Know it All. Who are those players?

[@purplegallery3097]

earl ?

[@geoffreykeenan5914]

@@williamhall7349 I don't know top players' longevity (which I guess for you equates to knowing a sport) but I recognize ugliness when I see it.

[@williamhall7349]

@@geoffreykeenan5914 refresh my memory of this

[@capoman1]

Efren will forever be considered the greatest, due to his creativity, his smooth stroke and knowledge of angles and caroms, and fantastic pocketing.... But SVB is really putting his name on the game with all the results he's gone on to have.

[@edgaraguilar9582]

I don’t agree that Reyes is or forever will be the greatest. He’s your favorite, sure.

[@capoman1]

@@edgaraguilar9582 Who you consider the greatest? Your right palm?

[@edgaraguilar9582]

Why are you so offended@@capoman1? Efren is great, everyone loves him. No need to get your blood pressure up because someone disagrees with you. Weirdo

[@PV75445]

@@edgaraguilar9582 The sport will always progress and there may or may not be someone who will once again revolutionize the sport like Efren did. This "GOAT" term is more like "This person is the greatest player to live to the present and will likely remain so (especially relative to his time) in the foreseeable future and will need another super-genius to claim that title. don't take it too literally

[@bemyguess1636]

@@edgaraguilar9582he’s a GOAT.

[@jvmusicph]

I remember I always watch efren because my father watching him No Pacquiao yet, no fb and youtube yet. No crime reported when Efren has tournament. I end up playing billiards too. Today Efren still amazing!

[@vCLOWNSHOESv]

Efren not complaining about a fan is no surprise. Yes Efren has as much class as any man but it probably didn't bother him as much as most guys. In the Philippines these guys play high level pool matches in rooms with a hundred guys hanging around the table. They play with humidity so bad they have piles of chalk on the actual rails and those people around the table may only be 3 feet away to the point players have to work around them to shoot so a little camera flash is nothing for a Filipino player.

[@أمدعاء-ج4ط]

Hello pool players around the world

[@jaybuza3794]

Hey man. Lol

[@timr1680]

Hello, whats up man?!

[@rommelmazo4854]

@@jaybuza3794 Q

[@rommelmazo4854]

25:22

[@rommelmazo4854]

@@jaybuza3794 R

[@mastermind7902]

both are true legend.... both played incredible..

[@mikescott3808]

I want to see more of these 2 facing each other if you guys can upload more that would be great

[@georgeowen2083]

Well efron retired so that’s probably never gonna happen.

[@edmhie1]

Efren is no longer in his prime.

[@mikescott3808]

@@edmhie1 yea we all know that is 70 yrs old now

[@ricocapili6990]

Efren last last balls on the 3rd and 4th seems intentional placing it awkward but hen made it. He is just making it more exciting. Things he does to entertain not top platers does.

[@kenshiman90]

adorable commentary duo

[@mxcafx]

These commentators are gold. "you don't buy green bananas" "oh I don't like green bananas" 😂 "I got that stat from my guy at acustats" "well let's jump him and kick him" "oh no he's too big"

[@gillesderais834]

"pool players are the best athletes at their game" wasn't bad either

[@mxcafx]

@@gillesderais834 lol I missed that one.

[@horsecockexpress7612]

Corn Rows guy at 7:25 is the diamond on the gold ring

[@mxcafx]

@@horsecockexpress7612 lol indeed.

[@nobodyspecial6436]

Good ol’ Danny Dileberto… i like his commentary… he was a hell of a player back in the day… He liked to talk a lot too kinda like Earl and “Big Mouth” Mike Sigel only not as much

[@capoman1]

Man Shane's break! Cue ball jumping straight up every time, so solid!

[@icerag]

Shane is the Efren of this generation and will probably be widely acknowledged as the GOAT next to Efren.

[@wes8740]

Europe has be the USA like 8 times out of the past decade. I think Jason Shaw is better.

[@victorjbarker]

No way. He doesn't play all of the games Efren played.

[@ysc6896]

Goat is Willie Hoppe 52 world championships in different disciplines Master of all billiards needs to be able to do 3-cushion billiards shots like Efren Van Boring is a straight shooter with a mules' power. What's in his brain you'd wonder. Certainly didn't have much advanced 3-cushion concepts (dumb positioning) so how the hell is he anywhere near the GOAT?

[@rollsroyceroyce7463]

@@ysc6896 way better than you bucko

[@RobFilippini]

Great pool and great commentary. Super interesting.

[@vebnew]

I played Efren about 7 years ago ..... of course as expected he beat me, but I had a blast!!!!!!!! What a rush!!!!!!

[@DjDupree]

Played him in 8ball 3 years ago he beat me in 1min 20sec. Lol

[@vebnew]

​@@DjDupree I just loved meeting him!!!!! However, there is nothing like playing the best of the best….

[@superdadtv.8943]

u need to play with money if u want a real game with him..ahahah

[@thebrothers1475]

Wish I could play him

[@conferenceconsultantsworld604]

At 44:18, pardon any redundancy, announcers discuss Shane manipulating racks. Efren won't speak up. But that rack was slanted to camera right. Very clear.

[@baumann9551]

slip ups happen once in a while, but do you see him doing it that bad often?

[@louisbuzzi869]

Efren Reyes is the GOAT IMO

[@byronhidalgo566]

What a great match !

[@rafaelvillamor9702]

Honestly im being confused of the colors of the modern balls from 3 4 5 6 7. I still prefer the classic brunswick balls which the 4 was pink.

[@boydmasonlake1995]

I'm used to a purple 4 with brunswick centennial

[@dwsnsgp]

Likewise!

[@bongrosales9459]

@16:42 that should be two 40 secs against SVB. That should be ball in hand for Efren.

[@NealFosterHD]

I spotted that too

[@scurvy3113]

Extensions are auto used if not used for that rack: I think it’s auto implied. I think that’s what happening

[@NealFosterHD]

@@scurvy3113 but he's already used his extension in that rack a minute earlier. 15:45

[@thatscnotk]

The extension gets applied but never actually starts counting down at 15:50 for whatever reason.

[@jabulanimanana1497]

without a doubt Efren is the GOAT . Both are my favourite players. if i had to choose one i'd go with Van Boening .

[@devonshire56]

Oooh, that's a fun one to watch. Both players much respect, hard to beat SVB

[@PatrickStar92]

two of my idol billiard players🎉

[@ReflectUpon2992]

6:27 big long fluid powerful stroke, you can tell they both laughed at that one lol

[@Endless20162]

Why he said it like that😂

[@Calloffish15]

you can hear em laugh too hahaha, awesome...

[@Cybertron-cs7sk]

Great win by SVB awesomeness ❤

[@franciscocastro5169]

if you watch it closely especially rack 15 - boening is setting the rack high above the setting point that the 3 ball always goes straight to the corner. The ref should be checking it if the players are the one setting the rack.

[@hendrajon8905]

Uncle Efren Reyes & Uncle Shane Van Boening sama-sama hebat main nya

[@armeinitaoctavia6003]

My 2 favourite players 🤩🤩

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

I'm just a casual pool watcher, but I do love the commentary as well as the game. I'm too ignorant so I don't know both commentators, but one is Danny Diliberto right? When I got interested in pool, I started watching tons of games with Danny and Billy Incardona commentating and loved it. The "other guy" I do recognize but can't remember his name. Both are very knowledgeable and calm, perfect for the game. Great upload!

[@robertmeadows1657]

The other guy is Mark Wilson, St Louis area based coach and commentator extraordinaire. Also a former pro player, former captain of the Mosconi Cup team and shooter of the final ball in the very first Mosconi Cup in 1994.

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

@@robertmeadows1657 thanks, I love their style👍

[@PostUp_Time]

1:13:14 guy says ggod game to svb, but svb touches his hearing aid to put it on so he can hear the guy. svb keeps hearing aide off while playing. intense concentration

[@toddaulner5393]

I used to play with Shane when he was like 18. Hi Shane! CONGRATS!

[@HG-cq4gg]

Great games from Missouri City, Texas

[@RyanJamesDuffy]

These announcers are being real hard on Efren.

[@kpgirl.4622]

Especially the old guy

[@conferenceconsultantsworld604]

52:39 again. Efren is a passive legend. He refuses to stand up and challenge a rack. Shane knows this. Again, the one ball to the two ball is an inch of center. Shane is desperate to win and take some legacy. This goes hill hill if there is a neutral racker. And I haven't even finished watching these shenanigans...

[@IFranchisedI]

Wow that is very interesting. Could be camera parallax. But if it’s that far off that’s definitely a cheating move and pretty disappointing from Shane

[@神奇阿祥]

💕😍😍波尼超準，雷耶斯超神😍😍💕

[@Dungthainguyentv]

So good

[@davidmoore4953]

Thank You for the videos

[@MrJdsenior]

Wow. That was near perfect pool.

[@lencac7952]

You're very right. Back in the day the good players were pretty tight-lipped about their game. Novices and blow-hards were always eager to tell you all about it.

[@RabahRayanNabilEl16]

😂😂😂😂😂 GREAT COMMENT!!! I stay in Akron Ohio and alot of as You said "Novices and Blow hards😂" are always saying You should've did this or that if You miss and sometimes even when You run out fools will still tell You You should've did this but I be like what I did worked fool 😂😂😂

[@Calloffish15]

9-Ball Rules!

[@vebnew]

2 of the best players in the world!!!!!

[@donrane]

45:09 - Not even a small clap. Tough crowd.

[@andrestorrejons]

Me recuerda tanto a la película Cars, con el legendario Hudson Hornet vs el rayo Mc Queen, y al ver el taco clásico de efren reyes que hasta parece un "the master" vs la tecnología que usa van boening con su "cuetec" que el mismo diseño y aun asi el mago sigue dando clases en algunos tiros... Sin duda reyes fue y siempre será el mejor 🥺

[@SahithReddy.]

What do the numbers .906 and .931 mean? Is it accuracy?

[@roadrunner381]

Basically yes, 1000 would be a perfect performance, missing any ball or safety affect this score, with two scores In the 900s would be very high level pool, that only top pros usually score!

[@teamwork7973]

Tournament Performance Accuracy

[@21RIP]

Here after Efren’s 70th Birthday? Hit the thumbs up.

[@ismaellemaignen7949]

no one talkin bout the real goat 🐐 old geezer commentator🐐🐐🐐🐐💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🚮🗽🚯

[@louiefernandez3835]

GOAT::: Efren Reyes;!!!

[@barryzeeberg3672]

Watching this event from several years ago, you can see how much weight Shane has put on. I hope that he can get back to that earlier weight and level of physical fitness.

[@zachflakerton]

His exercise is 8 miles a day around a pool table

[@cry_now_laugh_later]

That’s cuz he’s eatin all these pool players 😎

[@moob2020]

What does weight have to do with anything it’s not like he’s playing football

[@tonytechsupport]

I think it has more to do with Shane going from early 30's to late 30's. Most men gain weight during those years.

[@mikemorgan8646]

We gotta stay positive rah rah rah

[@PostUp_Time]

*EFREN PROBABLY COULD HAVE HAD ANY SPONSORSHIP HE WANTED. YET THERE SEEMS TO BE NONE. NEVER PLAYED WITH SPONSORED CUES/ NO SPONSOR PATCHES ALL OVER HIS SHIRT. A CLASS ACT THAT COULDNT BE BOUGHT. UNLIKE PLAYERS TODAY WITH HALF DOZEN PATCHES AND SPONSORED CUES, ETC.*

[@roadrunner381]

Shane is sponered by Cue tech, for the big bucks, the only one he needs , nobody else can touch him!🤑

[@capoman1]

I think Efren would play even if there was no money. Just looks like he loves the game.

[@MasculineVitality]

Man Shane was better back then, he misses a lot now and makes more mistakes. He didn’t make any mistake this match.

[@ATown-ql2nj]

I thought I was the only one to notice that.

[@ismaellemaignen7949]

20:16 the goat speaks 🫡🫡🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫💯💯💯💯💯

[@stuestolen]

How can Van Boening shoot the 4 ball when the 3 ball is still at the table? 41:27

[@sheapeters4116]

finally someone else who noticed that. i have absolutely no idea. did just no one notice???

[@stuestolen]

@@sheapeters4116 Or are they playing with some rules that I don’t know? I was hoping someone could explain this..

[@ryanooi4167]

that's the 5 ball

[@stuestolen]

@@ryanooi4167 Ah, thanks!

[@JohnA4564]

Van Boening "the Kid" vs Efren "Bata" Reyes. In Filipino "Bata" also means Kid.

[@6pillgalaxy631]

R.I.P to my pop , who in my opinion was a damn good pool player. Oh yeah , I play now too.

[@ippolea]

Who’s the old guy in the commentary?

[@b3p745]

Efren the GOAT 👍🏼

[@KarlsCracklingCottonMouth]

Thith wath a fun match to watch. And yeth i agree about thethe guyth thpeed control. Itth exthellent.

[@laurarada6838]

The one thing that gets all athletes, getting older.

[@artandsport1595]

Yeah everyone except ronnie

[@billysikes1374]

Whatever happened to Scott Smith? Love that guy, best referee EVER

[@randybuja]

Jesus Christ the Son of God died for you and rose from the grave and loves you VERY much

[@markhamblin8195]

Who cares .. he was annoying for way to long

[@ineedineediwantiwant]

How about A SCORE BOARD - on that informs an audience of all matches involved in a tournament and more than just the score a score board the same level as a baseball or football game

[@mikehenderson4327]

Well let's see the score is two to two and if Efren shoots this one out he'll be one rock ahead. Now that's some pretty good math there

[@depnguyen6519]

2 of the best POOL PLAYER love SHANE

[@luckyone1413]

this was thrilling. Both make mistakes and then use tremendous skills to get away with it. A fine match

[@AlexM-tc7ch]

The South Dakota kid versus the Magician.

[@JohnA4564]

Efren " Bata " Reyes. Bata also means Kid in Filipino.

[@conferenceconsultantsworld604]

48:04 also. Shane is angling the rack.

[@gabrielvalverde14]

q ball: u are so confident .... efren: Lets put a little bit of show! q ball: good shoot!

[@calie01915]

Love Danny DiLiberto commentary.

[@maxwellpruner2168]

Oof, right. Love these two players, but his commentary is abysmal. Between the bad calls, old man bs like "I'd coach kids today to stay in shape and play faster; I always did that", and, last but not least, "I'd tell Efren, duck" when it comes to the best player ever shooting against Van Boening, I reckon he's the worst billiard commentator I've ever suffered through in my life. I'd rather have Earl Strickland commentating. At least his career was relevant, unlike Danny's.

[@mentaldisease5193]

How to make this game more attractive to the people? Disallow jump-shots. Increase the countdown per shot. If the players are forced to play 1-, 2- or 3-rails shots, this looks way more well thought out and almost 'magical' to beginners. This would be a huge attraction, and also a way back to traditional playing.

[@castileofleon]

ken and scott are the best annoncers for all pool events

[@roadrunner381]

Shane has a very unique stroke in the way he has a long fluid wind up with a dip in it, but after all of that movement, believe it or not he actually "jabs" the the stick or poke strokes it, you gotta watch the final stroke and where the tip ends up on the follow thru or in his case the lack of it, some of his strokes the stick actually comes "back" that's why I say "jab", never the less, like no other jab stroke I've ever seen, he controls the the cue ball as good as anybody, which is not a skill that usually comes with a jab stroke, normally those kind of strokes are known for pocketing balls, particularly long hard shots, Efren on the other hand has a more classic pendulum swing with a good follow through although not a "power" stroke, but a finesse stroke, that's why he plays one pocket so good, among other skills, for another great stroke I look at Earl, long fluid "power" stroke, but not quite the control as Efrens finesse stroke, as for Fedor it's a what I call a" phony" stroke, it's a very contrived mechanical stroke, as in one step after another, most important with that kind of stroke is the timing, and it forces you to follow through the cue ball because of the long deliberate final back stroke, it's not a natural stroke, but it's works and works good!

[@jessgatchlian928]

ang layo ng stroke ni idol sa mga magagaling tlaga kulang na kulang

[@robertlong5171]

As my experience,you don’t play the man,you play the table.

[@somenteasescrituras4064]

The Table pockets balls?

[@roadrunner381]

Sounds good, until you play Efren Reyes!😉👍

[@hammerlane3871]

Lol 375 players for one pocket, legend has it they're still waiting for that one to finish

[@adamsapples777]

That older sounding commentator sounded confused 90%+ of the time lol 😝

[@NWIVeteranConstruction]

I've noticed that older guy does that a lot. Check out Earl stricklands first match in straight pool. It was ridiculous. Dude Acted like earl had no chance because he missed his first shot, harped on it for 20 minutes, just for earl to win by 40 balls 😂

[@Sacredsnow2]

That’s Danny dillaberto for you 😒 he’s definitely a master of the game but he acts like he’s never missed a shot in his life. It’s infuriating.

[@aurelionsol6258]

​@@Sacredsnow2And his voice is annoying af. I know he's old, but goddamn it I usually just turn the volume all the way down just to avoid listening to him. The commentators have a part to play and an annoying voice with an attitude just ruins the watching experience.

[@Mahir_here]

What a great kiss ❤

[@gwedoh69]

This match is hard to root for a player. It's like a parent watching a game with two children competing against each other.

[@randybuja]

Jesus Christ the Son of God died for you and rose from the grave and loves you

[@aurelionsol6258]

​@@randybujaWhat does your comment have to do with what gwendoh69 said? This is a pool match, not church.

[@stubones417]

1:08:30 Pool is not a harder game that golf. That's why the best pool players are more consistent. Golf has an exponentially higher number of variabilities: the course, specific course conditions, weather, club choice, grass type, altitude, air saturation, ball lie, the list goes on. As a pool fanatic, these guys are the best at what they do, but I wouldn't go as far to say that pool is more difficult than golf. And thus, you cannot say that top pool players have mastered the game more than top golfers have mastered their own game; which, in my opinion, is a harder game based on the number of variables and unpredictability.

[@milesanderson301]

Danny played pool and golf well. He also had a hustle where he would bet money he could throw a golf ball through a football goal from the other in zone, 100 yards. And he would nail it!

[@jaypisme2343]

The next year looks like Efren beat him just As bad

[@prithvip7888]

2:27 what's that shot mean?

[@blakejones454]

Who ever lands closer to the rail breaks first

[@aurelionsol6258]

It's called a lag. It's used to determine who breaks first. The goal is to get the ball as close to the head rail as possible. Whoever is closest wins the lag and breaks the first rack.

[@leo.messsi]

Is this speed upped?

[@speedbagboxer7451]

The commentators mentioned something about controversy over Shane’s break. That some players watch him closely to see if he’s cheating when wracking the balls? Can anyone elaborate on that?

[@danielhicks4826]

Sounds like one of those he's so good and efficient at something in this case breaking that players used to thin he was "cheating" kinda things i'd guess, only thing I can think of Shanes about as professional and rule abiding as they come ya know.

[@seiyulyu4854]

Shane often taking a long time to rack. 1 ball on the spot, breaking from more than one diamond in from the side rail and wing ball often firing straight into in the corner? Perhaps some strategic gaps between balls when racking? 🤔

[@vishalborgoyari9482]

3:10 why 😂 Did anyone notice the kiss in the background?

[@tonytechsupport]

@ 8:02 Jayson Shaw is only 5 years younger than Shane not 7 or 8.

[@customwood_IDN]

I like billiards, what do you think about my DIY billiard table?

[@musamaliemmiemutambo]

Efren remains a legendary

[@kulasbukid]

THE GOAT

[@Ectomesoendo]

4:16 " not the same Efren Reyes". There is only one and always will be Goat efren. He can miss all his next shots and still be the best.

[@joaquinrivera3315]

41:23 Shane hit the 4ball when the 3ball is still on the table. I don't get it

[@thatscnotk]

That's actually the 5. Very interesting how it reads as a 3 because of the ball's rotation and the camera angle. You can hear the commentators say the 3 rockets into the corner pocket on the break.

[@aurelionsol6258]

​@@thatscnotkExactly what I was gonna say. At first I also saw 3, but the referee didn't intervene and call a foul so I stopped the video and looked closely to see it was actually the 5 ball.

[@truongxoan5430]

Xem quá đã mắt

[@josefinaperia8271]

Ok lng kung natalo c idol Efren but his sports man god 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 bless idol Efren

[@catarmanbonita692]

Dos companeros

[@bobbyt223]

Watching this in 2024 and Efren is still proving these commentators wrong about not being as good as he once was. Efren is like anybody else and does have his food days and bad days but efrens bad days are still magnitudes better than most players’ good days.

[@alex_urso]

Watching these two at pool, it's like watching Messi vs Ronaldo on football

[@victorjbarker]

Where is part 2 WTF

[@ismaellemaignen7949]

“Is he playing himself?!” in regards of the goat.

[@LikeahDocta]

SVB has the greatest break in pool history

[@dwsnsgp]

I don’t like the way they hanged the ball colors. It is confusing.