Ace Combat 4 - Second Strike (EXTENDED)

[@EvilMagnitude]

In fairness, don't forget that Mobius 1 destroyed an entire carrier battle group, a state-of-the-art fleet specifically designed to shoot down *cruise missiles* in defense of the carrier, let alone airplanes, all by himself. That's almost more impressive than taking out a superweapon.

[@tomb665]

I want to put this in my next power point presentation for school

[@Blueoriontiger]

Do it! I want to know how it turns out. :)

[@XurZagum]

@Blueoriontiger, When someone doesn't read the "2 years ago" next to Thomas' post.

[@Hexfury]

Did you do it?

[@calamitousenigma9052]

Probs.

[@vortigauntsteve49]

"And now for my presentation on the d-day landings" *The lights dim and this music plays audibly* "or rather, lets get this briefing started." Edit: yes I know the comment is from 2 years ago, sue me

[@johnwenzel2756]

People also seem to forget that Mobius 1 saved the world from an impending apocalyptic grade meteor shower thanks to the megalith facility. That and single handedly taking down a planetary defense network capable of vaporizing asteroids put's him in at #1 in my book.

[@brarx0166]

True, this weapon was essentially NASA's DART mission but it was going to be used to redirect asteroids at the Usean continent

[@xdxdxd941]

[@Amar7605]

The enemy GHQ is located beneath a landfill on the coast of their capital, Farbanti. Bring it under control to end this war once and for all. Our troops will enter via the Silver Bridge to the Southeast, and the flooded city to the South. You must attack all enemy forces and support our troops. Enemy tank forces are also closing in from the North. Destroy Johnson Memorial Bridge to stop them from joining forces from the enemy GHQ. We know that Megalith is being developed as we speak. The enemy must be prevented from using it as a last ditch effort.

[@TheAtrain206]

yeah I just read that over the music. best decision I've made today 👍

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

Anyone else notice how the silhouette of the ISAF logo looks like the outline of an F-117?

[@sandakureva]

A bird which sadly... wasn't in the game.

[@cac_deadlyrang]

sandakureva Actually, The F-117 is in Ace Combat 04.

[@DeltaPhoenix180]

You mean how the F-117 looks more like the outline of an organization's logo than the silhouette of an aircraft? Yeah, noticed that XD

[@princesscadance197]

I think it’s a bit of a stretch to assume they designed the logo after a specific aircraft. Likely just three triangles intended to represent aircraft flying in formation.

[@henryhamilton4087]

HELL YEAH! You just murdered Yellow 4 in cold blood Here's some badass music to celebrate

[@razgriz1258]

O see you're a man of culture as well

[@Cipher71]

"Cold blood"? I'm pretty sure she and the other yellows were actively trying to shoot you down at the time lol

[@pumpkinsidd2249]

Lol Cinema Sins XD

[@ThreeStrikes015WW]

SlyCooperFan1 lol 😂😂😂

[@vitordiniz3142]

I think we killed hundreds in bunker shot xD

[@Acecombatrules59]

when i first hear this OST i knew it was the turning point for both countries :D and close to unlocking the f-22!!!

[@cookiejarvis3856]

F-22 real life has no fire power really just a minigun and a few rockets if it was not stealth it would suck

[@Acecombatrules59]

AWRS TheWolf ...lol sense: 0% blind ignorance: 100%

[@ISAFSoldier]

AWRS TheWolf that "minigun" is an M61A2 20 mm rotary cannon, and those "rockets" are a combination of AIM-9X Sidewinder advanced short range dogfight missiles and AIM-120C AMRAAM beyond visual range engagement missiles....against a Raptor, you're dead before you knew you were being fired upon, have a nice day.

[@williamrodriguez8957]

ISAFSoldier That could be true (I didn't look it up so I trust your judgement,) but I just prefer the F-15 ACTIVE....

[@StreamerzGaming]

Dark Star When you said rockets I figured out you dont know A thing about air combat

[@AXAEAE]

掛かるタイミング的にも流れ変わったな　って感じがしてすごい好き ブリーフィングはこれが一番ね

[@GiveMeSomeRounds]

I find this theme the most catchy and the most blood-pumping out of all the briefing themes in the franchise. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE AC5's briefing theme, but this upbeat version of the first briefing really made me bang my head along with the beat when I first heard it. God, how I wish this theme was included to the Infinity... EDIT: This song is ACTUALLY in the Infinity! It plays on mission 6, and prolly will continue onwards 'till like... the second half's end? When I heard this song playing during the briefing, I shit you not, I almost jizzed at the awesomeness. Bottom line is: Ace Combat Infinity, PLAY IT. NOW.

[@ollibon]

LRSSG Briefing 3 in Ace Combat 7 is also very energetic and upbeat. Don't get me wrong, I'm not correcting you as i can see that the comment is 9 years old, just saying so that you would know(hope you didn't loose an account)

[@Mobius_118]

But I have yet to see any pilot be canonnically described as: "The equivalent of an entire fighter squadron." - Ace Combat 5, Operation Katina (aka Arcade Mode). Blaze had Wardog/Razgriz with him and Cipher had Galm Team. Mobius Squadron only came into effect during the final stages of the war. And you forget that he also took out Erusea's "Invincible Fleet", Stonehenge, Yellow Squadron, and Megalith.

[@seawolf4846]

+Mobius 1 EXACTLY!

[@Luke_Danger]

+Mobius 1 Halo, Rapier, Omega, and Viper Squadrons say "hi" that they were neglected.

[@seawolf4846]

Luke Danger Yup; but I love hearing "Omega 11 has been shot down" makes me laugh since it is almost every mission too.

[@virgilio6349]

Omega11, arguably the luckiest and unluckiest pilot in all of ISAF. Get gets shot down in every mission yet manages to survive each time.

[@seawolf4846]

+virgilio moncada indeed

[@nickfury1279]

Cipher may have destroyed a tower that fires lasers, but compared to Stonehenge, lasers on that mission where you destroy Excalibur are easy to dodge. If you're flying at say 10,000 feet, and your AWACS says there's 10 seconds left until the salvo fired by Stonehenge rips across the sky, you have to light the burners and go into a power dive and get below 2000 feet. I can't tell you the number of times I've made it below 2000 feet with 1 second to spare. And you have to fly at terrain-hugging altitude to stay clear of the shock waves. Also, super weapons aside, lets not forget that for most of the war, Cipher had a wingman. He only flew without a wingman on the last mission. Möbius 1 always flew without a wingman. Also there's popular speculation that Möbius 1 could be Cipher. The default paint scheme for the F-15C in Ace combat 04 is almost completely identical to the paint scheme on Cipher's F-15. Which might explain why Möbius 1 flew without a wingman. After Pixy betrayed Cipher, and PJ gave his life to protect him from a laser fired by Pixy, he didn't want to feel betrayal or loss again. Which is why, after he disappeared after the Belkan War, he reappeared in Usea, under a new codename, and started kicking ass as Möbius 1. That seems the most plausible theory about their identities to me

[@cloudcop4846]

***** Will comply. :D

[@0041-w6r]

***** I would love to see MattPatt tackle some of the AC superweapons. :3 I wonder what he'd have to say about the ARKBIRD?

[@lowcalibremine3004]

+004 11392 Actually, I never thought about what MatPat would say about AC superweapons. That would be cool to watch.

[@foret4a874]

Nick Fury I like how every Ace Combat has different types of special weapons you must destroy

[@calamitousenigma9052]

004 11392 This. Hell yes.

[@RyanLockwood]

this song is so nostalgic. just Wow. One of my favorite games ever right here.

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

When I heard this for the first time. I was soooooo hyped since I knew I was doing something great. I felt special. And this game does an amazing job making you feel special :D Mobius 1 would always be my favorite AC pilot of all time :D

[@fazebanksyellingatatraffic8759]

still my favorite briefing music

[@fazebanksyellingatatraffic8759]

+Cole Ovian or the first breifing from ac5

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

+Cole Ovian I never played AC5 ;( Only AC4, AC6, AC Assault Horizon, and AC Infinity. Also bless you sir for using the acronym AC for Ace Combat. I don't like it that it's been stolen by Assassin's Creed :(

[@fazebanksyellingatatraffic8759]

yeah, me neither. but if you dont have a ps2, buy 1, get ac5, and remember to thank me. it is tge best game i have ever played.

[@fazebanksyellingatatraffic8759]

ac0 was good too

[@Shobold]

The best pilot of all time is not Mobius 1... It's obviously Omega 11

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

Ain't that the pilot that dies in every mission? If so, then yes. he can die and still come back fighting xD

[@Shobold]

+IsaiasSoldier2 He doesn't "die", he just gets shot down and bails out every time. He must be the unluckiest, yet luckiest pilot in ISAF. His K/D ratio must suck: 2 kills / too many downs

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

+Silver Guardian Games Ha, very true. He's the true hero around these parts xD

[@foundation9067]

Lol, but what about tango 9?

[@Shobold]

N & C Gaming Tango 9 is right before Omega 11. He's one of the top pilots. But no one will ever be able to reach Omega's pure skill. He's also known as "King Bailout" (Not kidding, that's his nickname in AC: Infinity)

[@AZKitiFIREEEEEEE]

この曲かかるとやる気でるおれってｗｗ４は小学生の頃に一番初めにやって一番やりこんだな～

[@DaL33T5]

Operation: "Here are your orders. Good luck." Second Strike: "USEA FUCK YEAH WE GOT A WAR TO WIN BOYS"

[@DarthEarp]

i want this to be my theme song

[@DimyRacer]

Mobius 1 will always be the best Super Ace from Ace Combat because he had no wingman except for Megalith and did not lose even one, Gryphus 1 lost all his wingmans because of Gleipnir, which is les powerful than Megalith, Galm 1 when lost his wingman he needed a replacemant, furthermore Galm Squadron always had PJ's help, Mobius 1 was hero in Ace Combat 4 and 5, he destroyed four Super planes piloted by Yellows and Katina Operation, which Gryphus 1 did avoid shooting down Alect before Fenrir, Galm 1 couldn't scape from Pixy's attack so PJ did sacrifice for him, Operation Katina has time limit, so that means Mobius 1 destroyed 4 Yellows X-02 faster than Galm 1 destroyed 1 Pixy Morgan, Aurelia needed two Super Aces, Falco 1 and Gryphus 1 to win, Scarface 1 saved USEA twice, but had wingman's support, after Ace Combat 4 the player aways had more planes to help, but Mobius1 flew some missions 100% alone while Galm 1, Gryphus 1 Wardog 1 and Garuda 1 lost their wingmans, Garuda 1 had the biggest rank from Ace Combat because he commanded everything, but never flew alone, that is why Mobius 1 is the best of the best

[@acynicalasian]

Boi, you're trying ultra hard. Mobius One truly is the OG legend, but, keep in mind: Gryphus One canonically survives a completely unannounced SWBM attack by Glephnir in a F-4E, which is damn impressive. Mobius One always had advance warning to attack. Furthermore, Glephnir is arguably stronger than Stonehenge because Stonehenge has a >2000ft attack, while Glephnir's Shock Cannon and SWBM allow an all-altitude attack. In Ace Combat 04, Mobius One never destroys any super planes. If you're referring to Ace Combat 5, that's cool and all, but X-02s are merely regular aircraft with incredible maneuverability. Compare that to Cipher's battle with Pixy like you did. The ADFX-02 has the capability to equip all three functions of laser, burst missiles, and upgraded ECM at once, while the ADFX-01 can only equip one and has a normal ECMP. Mobius One has like fifteen wingmen in Megalith. That's way more than the one wingman you seemed to keep complaining about in Ace Combat Zero. Your argument about Operation Katina's time limit is invalid because all Ace Combat missions have time limits as well. Also consider that the AI for the X-02s in AC5 are noticeably easier, even in level 7D, as compared to Pixy in Mission 18M. Gryphus One shooting down Alert Squadron before they pilot Fenrir in one possible play through is only one possible outcome. If you went for the microwave weapons first, Alect Squadron does pilot the Fenrirs. You can't just selectively decide which route is canonical. Furthermore, even the normal AI for Fenrir (not the Alect Squadron) are comparable to ace AIs, and the optical camouflage they have makes the fight extremely tough. Fenrir is also more broken than the X-02, with better machine guns, the capability to carry shock wave missiles, microwave weapons, and optical camouflage. Gryphus One arguably accomplished a harder task than Mobius One in that case. Since I've played through AC04, AC5, ACZ, AC6, and ACX multiple times, of course on Ace mode, over a time span of 12 years, I do think I'm qualified to pass judgement here. Sorry to say this, but you're being a tryhard fanboy for Mobius One. I believe Mobius One is truly amazing, but other protagonist aces have their merits as well, something that you seem to ignore in favor of admittedly, the OG ace in Ace Combat for me.

[@DimyRacer]

Sorry to write this: but I still play Ace Combat 1(Air Combat), Ace Combat 2, Ace Combat 3 Japanese version(which is not valid because the character Nemo s actually a BOT on a fictional computer world created by Professor Simon and his job was to show him the possibilities of the future), Ace Combat 4, Ace Combat 5, Ace Combat Zero, Ace Combat X, Ace Combat Advance, Ace Combat Nothern Wings, Ace Combat 6, Ace Combat Xi, Ace Combat X: Mobius 1 destroyed the Invincible Fleet with a F-4, survived the Stonehenge attacks flying inside a ravine being attacked with nowhere to go and Stonehenge is stronger than the Gleipnir because it has an attack range of almost the entire mainland, the shock cannon can attack on low altitude, but the Gleipnir turns upside down to attack in high altitude reversing the situation, the weakpoint is low or high altitude (otherwise it would be impossible for the player to dodge the attacks,), Gryphus 1 actually finished what Falco 1 had started before him which was also called the Southern Crossm that is why Gryphus 1 emblem is almost the same as Gryphus 1(though Ace Combat Xi came after Ace Combat X), Ace Combat Zero: even if Pixy has a better plane he was not 5 pilots, Yellow 13 was better than Pixy, had better reputation and outsdanding flying and used the Cobra manauver making him harder to shoot down than Pixy, Pixy had better plane, weapons and etc, but Moubius 1 could have dodged the attack while Galm 1 couldn't (controls are locked after Galm 1 gets out of the tunnel), Mobius 1 had 8 wingmen in Megalith, from game: Mobius 2 on standby, Mobius 3 through 7 on standby, Mobius 8 on standby, Ace Combat 5: my argument about operation Katina time limit is valid because Air Combat and Ace Combat 2 had fuel limit, when the fuel was over the result was failure (fuel+time) and Ace Combat 4 had time limit as well as Ace Combat 5, but the Ace Combat 5 Arcade is way tougher because time limit is short, that is why shoot down the Yellows is an easier job, Ace Combat X: Crux says in the briefing: If you succeed in destroying the facility, you should be able to handle Fenrir just like any other fighter. Alect Squadron was not feared much as Yellow Squadron and any pilot can shoot down Alect pilots with average plane or with Fenrir without camuflage, in these stuations Gryphus 1 did not shoot down all enemies, this is the proof that Yellow pilots are better than Alect, Gryphus 1 also had better fighter equipped with Defensive Aids System, more powerful engines (Ace Combat X planes are faster than Ace Combat 4), so arguably accomplished a harder task than Gryphus in the entire game, Ace Combat 6: before Ace Combat 6 most of the wingmen seems to be useless, but in Ace Combat 6 the bots destroys more than half of enemy forces, for last: for Namco Mobius 1 is not just a hero, is a symbol of a new generation and was meant to be (and is) the best of all times, Mobius is a 3-D strip and being 3 dimensional is the insignia for a pilot that think and act in 3 dimensions, Mobius 1 is a hero at Ace Combat 4 and 5, his paint scheme can be unlocked in almost every Ace Combat Series game after Ace Combat 4, Ace Combat X might be inspired in Ace Combat 4 as Ace Combat X looks like a lot Ace Combat 4, Ace Combat 4 has also a futuristic menu, briefing and briefing map and Ace Combat Infinity is just like Ace Combat 4 and is full of references to Ace Combat such as names and playlist PS: The correct acronyms are AC04 and AC05

[@DimyRacer]

You are so wrong and not taking me seriously, also I did modify games in here, you are just an average player ,by the way I don't know exactly how Kestrel survives because it does not make any sense, but Kestrel's missions always ends in failure before the Razgriz, it is just a survivor ship, and the other carriers sunk in the wrong order, and Mobius 1 uses the F-4 in the first 6 missions, time is not infinite in Operation Katina, plus Blaze did solve the mistery behind the war with his team which makes Ace Combat 5 the best story of all times, and Yellow 13 does the Cobra which is an ace manauver while Pixy can not do anything like that, not even with his super plane, it takes less time to shoot down Pixy than Yellow 13,actually the player do most of the work because until Ace Combat 6 a bot is almost useless and Yellow 13 had better abilities with flying, it is said by the storyteller, plus Ace Combat Assault Horizon is far more advanced than the others before, plus in the story Cipher is not quite famous by himself until Pixy leaves him, everybody knows the Galm Team (just like The Demons Of Razgriz and Garuda Team), plus the paint scheme is actually something that is used to be recognized, such as real fighter pilots had their own and were feared by them, you should be wise and not write something so offensive like that, as I know I am right if you don't have anything rational to write, just do not reply

[@DimyRacer]

You are lower than average than, you just play and has poor and wrong knowledge about Ace Combat series, you never translated a game, fixed a console, nor knows how these games works, never played Air Combat (Ace Combat 1), Air Combat 22, AC2, AC3 Uncut Version, AC Xi, or Ace Combat Nothern Wings, I did translate Ace Combat Games and still play the original PS1 for years and THAT IS AVERAGE? You're pathetic, I am so disappointed, I wrote the reality and your answer was you own supposition, I did not mension Ace Combat Assault Horizon, nor Joint Assault and Infinity are from the real world, not from Ace Combat (some of the Ace Combat stories are conected), in Ace Combat 2 the highest level pilots in the last mission are the best and the reward for shoot them down i way greater and they do the Cobra, but if the player is close and slow enough to aim it is easier to shoot them down while they do the Cobra, something that does not happen in AC04, Pixy NEVER did the Cobra in Ace Combat Zero, plus Mobius 1 paint scheme shouldn't be the featured more, it should be Phoenix (Scarface 1) the featured most, in Ace Combat Joint Assault you can shoot down an EF-2000 Typhoon and unlock his paint scheme from Air Combat, in Ace Combat 2 his plane is a Su-35 with a purple color, but in Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy it is a F/A-22 Raptor with the same color pack from Ace Combat 6, in Ace Combat 4 Yellow 13 recognizes his abilities and says: something worthy of praise, while Pixy tried to shoot down Cipher almost underestimating his abilities (just hear what he says during the mission)and even with a super plane he failed showing such as a bad pilot he was and Ace Combat 5 was discussed because Mobius 1 is part of it, the best Ace Combat game ever was AC5, it was not about a top ace pilot in the middle of the war, but find out who was behind the war, and it is very clear that Mobius 1 tops all pilotsfrom Ace Combat world, read with attention what I write, think, and then answer instead of insulting me even knowing you are way inferior compared to me about this

[@Amar7605]

It's now time to go on the offensive.

[@Gentamoru]

I wish i spent more time into this game, at the time i played this game i didn't know English very well so i didn't understood the point of the game and how to unlock new planes or missions so i only flew around in the plane because i liked flying :b

[@SOMEGUY7893]

>This song is way too hype for briefing music.

[@nucl3arsnak345]

Nah man...It was like their morale was back!

[@xdarkwing104x]

They got their groove back at this point. This is what hope sounds like

[@TheKillersmod]

Hmmm.. -Rot -Schwarze -Gelb -Indigo -Grun -Sorcerer -Wizard -Silber -Schnee -Espada -Gault Cipher did...about 11 times...well, 12 counting ADFX-02 Pixy...

[@segador26]

Gentlemen you are forgetting that the all-mighty mobius 1 defeated an entire revolution forces all by himself, with absolutely no help, even though those revolutionaries used advanced AI-run fighter jets (which I consider harder than taking out a single Falken).

[@Hi_Jr]

Bartenderer dieded by maneuvering through tubes and shooting your machine gun

[@calamitousenigma9052]

Do X-02 drones have ballistic missiles and lasers? I didn't think so.

[@valangelobaco7245]

also dont forget about excalibur

[@aliacf8518]

Don’t forget! Cipher pulled the sword of tauburg

[@iicustodianlaw]

Farbanti cant catch a break -oboeshoesgames

[@l0rdn0o8skillz4]

When that one lone Mechwarrior in a Raven slips behind enemy lines and starts capping the objective just as the death balls converge.

[@Cruel0666]

"My turn."

[@monitorlizardkid8253]

I read the description and I have two movies to recommend to the uploader if he is reading this, iron eagle(for a good, if cheesy, fighter jet movie), and mad max fury road (for a good movie, period.) 95 percent of the crashes and explosions in mad max fury road are done with real cars and pyrotechnic devices, the flame is admittedly digitally recolored a little bit, but they actually did blow up a real tanker truck for that shot near the end of the film.

[@ryanp7546]

When the school jerks and gangsters got expelled from school:

[@YABUKIJOE2077]

You're on OFFENSIVE that's why

[@nickfury1279]

IMHO, Stonehenge was a lot harder to destroy than Excalibur, or any airborne fortress.

[@LeviForWaifu]

Bombs make short work of either. Excalibur was super duper hyped up, to the point of being almost dumb. It was attacking on a radial pattern, on a given trajectory towards your airplane, so as long as you were in a different sector on the 'circle' within 5 seconds, you were fine.

[@baxterrhodes7542]

That's because Stonehenge was the pinnacle of air superiority super-weapons. The ability to destroy everything above two thousand feet (in terms of how high you are off the ground) is absolutely terrifying, not to mention incredibly powerful. Though things like the SOLG and Excalibur were very dangerous, the absolute destruction fo Stonehenge sets it apart.

[@LeviForWaifu]

The Stonehenge cannons were precision guided via powerful computers, and I assume they would either Semi-Actively home their shots, or they would fire hypersonic railgun rounds on a ballistic trajectory in the vicinity of your airplane, sometimes missing. Yes, that is terrifying, especially the shock-wave. You can almost feel the terror of your fellow ISAF pilots as you tuck your tail between your legs and run.

[@nickfury1279]

Baxter Rhodes I know that, but if you read the description, the guy who posted this seems to have forgotten about Stonehenge.

[@baxterrhodes7542]

Indeed

[@nucl3arsnak345]

It is rumoured that Cipher (or Galm 1) is Mobius 1 in earlier years. He fought as a mercenary but then returned to his home land when he was older. I personally like to believe they were the same person.

[@supersniper2869]

Frank Pritchard i think you're right as there is a little Easter egg in Ace Combat zero on the FA-22A's soldier skin as it represents Mobius 1 and also the fact that the continent Erusea is in may be in the same world as Ace Combat Zero

[@aliacf8518]

You all are wrong.. If he is mobius 1 then in GAUNTLET ace mode why did they fight each other

[@Doc_Paradox]

Sadly the dev confirmed they are not the same person

[@Domi39]

They are the same person. They're all you. All us, the players. 🤘

[@victuz]

@@Doc_Paradox To me this is good, not bad. We have two legendary pilots.

[@lMobiuscidl]

Nice to see you back in action Julio!

[@guilty_mulburry5903]

Strider squadron aircraft prep complete! Standby at the front

[@nicolasvaleriano5329]

cipher é melhor por quê ele teve que acabar com 4 esquadrões de elite durante a guerra que aparecem nas missoes 3-6-10-15 e ainda matar seu melhor amigo na ultima missão e ainda ao longo disso destruiu uma torre de lazer com 4 ECM's de suporte uma fortaleza voadora super armada e voar dentro de tuneis na ultima missão para impedir um missil nuclear(os esquadrões das missões 3-10 são aleatórios devido ao seu estado entre -"knight" - "soldier" - "mercenary")

[@cg123ize]

rebel briefing room post battle of endor

[@daTruChosen]

Best game in the Ace Combat series, in my honest opinion.

[@xdarkwing104x]

I hope 7 is half as good. Im betting $63 that it will be

[@cipher0328]

@@xdarkwing104x is it?

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

Yeah. Though, i have only played ace combat 4, 6 and assault horizon. in 4 Mobius 1 had allied fighters that almost did anything leaving you to do most of the work, in 6 Garuda 1 had a wingman and a squad that follows him and support him with great support. Still the missions garuda 1 was put in were massive so it work explain the support. so in a way, mobius 1 was almost 'lone-wolf' out there. I can't say the same for Gyrphus 1 since i dont even know what game he is in or what he did.

[@thedawkturr4481]

You want fame, you want money? You're going to out perform our ace. (Reaper with Red Infinity symbol)

[@neonpeanuts8987]

Whoever said that the F-22 would suck without stealth is wrong. The F-22 is still able to outperform any RL aircraft.

[@LeviForWaifu]

Stealth makes it so that it can kill 6 enemies without being seen or heard first. Whereas an F-16 would be spotted 100 miles away.

[@nickfury1279]

RCGeek1 People seem to forget that while enemy fighters wouldn't be able to detect the F-22 itself, they would be able to detect the missiles on their radar, no matter how fast the missiles are going (There's this thing called a threat warning alarm that goes off when a missile is headed for the plane.) So they'd be able to activate jamming equipment, eject chaff (metal strips designed to create false radar returns to shake off radar-guided missiles) or flares (create false heat signatures to confuse heat-seekers) and perform evasive maneuvers to avoid the missiles. Likewise, even though an F-16 would be spotted on radar miles away, it could deploy countermeasures against enemy missiles. Or it could fly in the terrain mask to avoid ground-based radar systems.

[@LeviForWaifu]

Other than the stuff I already knew, you basically affirmed my point. Other than they could see the shots coming. Which is why it should close to very close range before making a peep, as it will do.

[@TheLeader24]

If the new ace combat use the ISAf , I want to see that new emblemfor the ISAF ; Pretty cool .

[@Kagerozetto-ni3yo]

Capitain, airplane for use?.

[@ivansalcedo2290]

Cipher? Thats the Pilot from the first pair of games isn't it? and Perhaps Hardest unlockable/shoot down Hidden ACE plane through most rest of the series. That XXWG whatever ya call em, its the Fastest fighter Jet. The one they made into a Story Progression Unlocked Fighter plane in ACE 7. It begs the question tho, who came first? MOBIUS OR CIPHER then? Not talking Retail here, Lorewise to the Games. Mobius One had their moment to shine in ACE 4 possibly the BEST Ace combat game. Then from 5 onwards Mobius becomes a Cameo/Separate SideStory Ace. The Arcade Mode/VR Missions.

[@OnwardSoldier]

THIS

[@mmb6527]

Mobius 1, fox 2!

[@sirilluminarthevaliant2895]

Who is the best soldier if his field. Mobius 1 from ace combat or snake

[@doomslayer5644]

trigger is the real mvp

[@Dan-ph8nc]

APC227 brought me here :)

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

what about Garuda 1? He did the same thing

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

Oh ok. So in a way, these aces share something similar to one of each other. :D

[@TheLeader24]

Thank you but if they make a remake HD of ace combat 4 i hope to the ywil ltake that picture for the ISAF .

[@victuz]

Before AC4, they have to make a remake of Electrosphere.

[@DGXGoggles]

What was the first mission they played this in? I feel like it might have been 16?

[@Michael-sl5qx]

It was the one after destroying Stonehenge, which I think is mission 10.

[@victuz]

Mission 13, soon after destroying Stonehenge, which was the turning point of the war for ISAF.

[@JulioCesar-zk7eb]

Gryphus 1 is a filler character. lol jk xD He is awesome too but I still think Cipher is better, in fact no, instead of comparing them I would rather see the two flying together. Now Garuda One is a whole different story, he had a whole fighter wing giving him support during most missions. I mean, he is good, but it's hard to decide when you have 20 aircraft doing half job for you.

[@SlyAceZeta]

The ISAF won't be in Ace Combat Infinity. It takes place in the real world.

[@CytotoxinK]

This was playing in my head the morning after the 2018 Midterm Elections

[@DaL33T5]

And again two years later. >

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

:D Cool.

[@CheekyChan]

Any chance of a high quality download of the image you used? Not sure if you made it but I can't find it anywhere. I'd be pretty happy if I could plaster that bad boy on my desktop.

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

there is high quality images on google. just look up ISAF with the largest image size setting set in the advanced settings

[@CheekyChan]

I did and there was only up to 720p available. I gave the image a larger background for 1080p support and it came out pretty well.

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

CheekyChan Well at least you got something for it! :D

[@CheekyChan]

+IsaiasSoldier2 Heh, yeah. I actually made it 1920x1200 for good measure, nothing's being cut off since it's just a solid color as the background.

[@IsaiasSoldier2]

CheekyChan noice. well i enjoy it now :D

[@Morrphinne]

Do you know that ISAF exist really? look at International Security Assistance Forces. ;)

[@cg123ize]

to be fair so does stonehenge...

[@RedWingPixy]

Third Strikes = Trigger