Acerthorn Doesn't Understand Morrowind.

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[@theprometheusprimeshow]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/omOpeI17eM9ko68 Me defending oblivion from the same guy. Enjoy.

[@corntastrophy]

I find it a bit odd how a Skyrim fan also dunks on Oblivion IMO. I mean, I can understand a Skyrim fan not liking Morrowind because of it's RNG, slow paced gameplay and overall it being dated, but Oblivion is pretty similar to Skyrim in a lot of regards if you ask me. The only main differences I can think of is the level scaling, magic system, and more variants of weapons. Not saying I hate Skyrim, I don't let the fandom ruin the game for me, because I did genuinely buy the game when it first came out as an Elder Scrolls Fan, and it still has a wonderful world to explore. I just find Morrowind the most with replay value for me, despite it's rather infuriating gameplay.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@corntastrophy and that's awesome 😊 thanks for watching

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@corntastrophy than there is the Chad true elder scrolls fan who appreciates every game in the series for its own unique styles.

[@ma2perdue]

Hey Prometheus....I wanted to say that being online is really intimidating to me - but you seem to get the logistics and do great at it. My camera and audio always comes out terrible, like with noise or echo or something..every time. I'll keep working at it. Once it is presentable I'll ask for your critique?

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@ma2perdue thanks, I appreciate it. My videos aren't really that great either, but I appreciate the support.

[@billycutiep]

Morrowind was the best looking game in 2002, and it was tha last time Bethesda could make that claim.

[@EugeneF15]

Am I the only one who likes the way fatigue and the quest journal works? You need to rest a bit after running and jumping around to get to a dangerous location, and you have to deliberately pay attention and become intimate with your quests inorder to look back on them efficiently

[@doobledoo]

Everyone who talks about the Morrowind fatigue system as being unplayable completely misses the rest mechanic. It's there for a reason and the devs expected you to use it to replenish your fatigue. And the journal rules. Absolutely awesome

[@KBergs]

​@@doobledoo people complain about this as if it isn't solvable with in game mechanics like alchemy and enchant, I just think RPGs might not be what these players actually want to play.

[@doobledoo]

@@KBergs you're right. But as much of a huge Morrowind fan that I am, it's sometimes not the most intuitive and protecting that it's limiting systems are designed to be worked around using other in game systems. Most games, even most elder scrolls games, have a tendency to teach the player that if something they're doing isn't working it's because the game is broken, not that they need to use the correct system to overcome it. The fatigue can be like this for a lot of players

[@adamshea5062]

Just realized he didn't even fully complete the tax collector mission. He could of went back and lightkeeper to get some potions in exchange for giving her the ring she gave the tax collector.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Yeah, to be fair; I didn't complete it either. I turned in the mission at the census office and sold the ring for money, I had to feed my skooma addiction somehow. 😅

[@nickelakon5369]

He also misread the quest, or deliberately misrepresented it. The tax collector and that guy were constantly having arguments and he owed him. The guy also "boasts" about it because he saw the kill as honorable due to the tax collector holding a debt over his head. Also he did the sheep questline for the fighters guild, which you're not supposed to do.

[@IBN5100SG]

Love how the review mentions there are no twists in the Fighters Guild, while if you are not reading dialogue carefully enough and just completing quests as-is, you can lock yourself out of the Thieves Guild and have your organization become a pawn of the Camonna Tong...

[@zander2758]

Acerthorn likes to talk about elitism, yet i doubt he's seen that many elitists and even if he did, even if those people are elitists that doesn't make them wrong on what they are saying regardless.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

He doesn't understand that part of criticism 🤣

[@TheRealAbraxas]

The Morrowind community is incredibly smug and fart sniffing. They act like the game is the end all be all of RPGs when really it falls in line with the other Elder Scrolls titles.

[@vincentmarcellino7183]

Commented on that guy's video a while back and he got all pissy when I called him out on not paying attention to the story and not levelling his character up before he went to high level areas

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I can see that he's not really the best at taking criticism.

[@3Guys1Video]

@@theprometheusprimeshow understatement

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@3Guys1Video oh yeah its way worse now

[@3Guys1Video]

@@theprometheusprimeshow yup

[@And-ur6ol]

"This isn't a simulation game" Actually, it kind of is... Good job missing the point of Morrowinds system.

[@mchamburgerslice2870]

I dont understand this guys argument that there are no interesting landscapes in morrowind, there are so many regions across the island and they all a very much physically distinct from each other, and no they arent all brown there are many colors in morrowind.

[@ihateyankees3655]

Acerthorn should stick to what he knows. Eating room temperature hotdogs straight out of the package, screaming like a demon turkey, and filing bullshit lawsuits.

[@spicydeath82]

actually, they aren't immortal. alemexia was able to kill sotha sil, granted that's god on god. but then you kill her. and you can do that before you destroy the heart of lorkahn. they call themselves gods, but they aren't really. they are lesser beings compared to the aedra and daedra. still more powerful than most mortals and won't age as long as the heart is intact. but by the point events morrowind roll around, their power is starting to fade due to dagoth ur having blocked their access to the heart. hence why they can't go take him on. he has unlimited access to the heart and so he can renew his "Godhood" regularly and remain immortal. as long as the heart is intact he'll respawn indefinitely. hence why the neverain must destroy the heart.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Yeah I got that absolutely wrong and I should have known better; I thought the same rules applied to both vivec and degoth ur. Sorry about that; but thanks for watching my video anyway.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@Acerthorn The True Acerthorn you learn something new everyday 😊

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

@Acerthorn The True Acerthorn azura has a special speech if dagoth ur is alive or not for tribunal ending, so i don't think it was that poorly integrated

[@costelinha1867]

24:40 that complaint was like someone reading (Or watching if you're watching the new movie) Dune and then complaining there's too much sand or too much desert and there's not much variety in the landscape.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Exactly 🤣

[@morticianflame]

Also find it funny that Acerthron complains that Morrowind all looks the same, yet when he used Oblivion as an example of area diversity, all the pics he shows is generic forests that all look the same

[@SterlinGolden]

Obviously skyrims deep leveling system of “blue, red, or green bar” is far superior 😆

[@bowaster57]

When he said the snapshot of the Ayleid ruins by the lake and forest were a beautiful panorama of everything in Cyrodiil I did get a giggle from it because he is right. Ayeleid ruins, Grass, Trees. That's the big 3 of Oblivion right there alright.

[@pintin9843]

I feel like one point you didn't touch on during the graphics segment was morrowinds biome diversity, Ace says oblivion was more diverse but the biomes are really just green, dark green and light green, compare that to the ascadian isles, bittercoast, west gash, ashlands and sheogorad, they all look distinct. As for melee combat being just clicking LMB, you have dodging and fatigue, for an example spear players are often constantly moving during fights since they have more fatigue. Fatigue is also important since you have to take it into account when fighting, if you spam lmb your going to run out of fatigue and die. Running with fatigue is take it or leave it imo, but id say it add to gameplay, for example when your in a dangerous area you could either make to decision to run to get out of there quicker or you could save to for an enemy you might have to fight, compare that to an easier area where you dont need to worry about the enemy's since you've progressed your character to the point where lower tier enemy's aren't a threat. Also you dont need to run everywhere to travel in morrowind as ace implies lol, there's many alternative ways of travel like stilt striders or teleports. Also I find it funny when he says the quests are predictable when showing a Fighters guild member who is secretly a Camonna Tong plant with the goal of destroying the Thieves guild.

[@marlow7376]

fatigue affecting chance to hit and cast is actually a massive upside once u start managing fatigue as it provides massive bonuses when full like +25% chance to hit, u can also get a good stock of fatigue potions right out of the gate too very easily and with good alchemy you'll get the potions and make money

[@brumallupine1961]

Divath Fyr's daedric cuirass *IS NOT* the only instance of the item in the game. You get an enchanted daedric cuirass in a Telvanni quest as a reward (in another, you get enchanted daedric greaves). So he is wrong.

[@Whamcloud]

Does he even mention anything that would involve playing more then a couple of hours of the game, I don't believe he killed vivec or got any skills to a high level, he doesn't mention having to use potions and lots of equipment to handle harder fights. He likely picked up the ring at the start and thought that's a neat feature which it is. Ehehehwbhshdbdkd

[@dmas7749]

this is so bad the "you can kill vivec" is literally countered by uhh don't do that if it bothers you so much lol

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Yeah. I like your profile picture, btw.

[@dmas7749]

@@theprometheusprimeshow i spiritually relate to cranky kong.

[@emanuelseibert3790]

The problem is not that he doesn't like that you can kill Vivec. The problem is that his reasoning is that "you can't kill a god", as if half lore presented in game explains why he is not actually a god. But of course, how would he know if he just wanted to make people mad for views?

[@localnwah7044]

Came here after the STAG stream, Greta video man you made some rly good points, and although there are a few things i disagreed with such as fatigue and how it affects change to hit and chance to cast, I personally enjoy the system as I feel introduces another layer of depth that influences you to prepare for journeys and battles but other than that rly enjoyed your vid man good job! 👍🏼❤️

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Thanks N'wah; if you liked my morrowind response then you should check out my oblivion response.

[@yari4046]

vivec is literally harder to kill than dagoth ur, what is this dude on about

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

Pretty wild how Bethesda fanboys hate the only masterpiece Bethesda ever made.

[@mynamejeffgaming]

Fallout 3 ? Fallout 4 ? Oblivion ? Skyrim ?

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

@@mynamejeffgaming I assume you're joking?

[@DoomUvb]

​@@mynamejeffgamingFallout 3 and 4 A butcher version of fallout Skyrim and oblivion a Dumb down RPG that barely classified as that. They're more like action adventure games with rpg elements

[@mynamejeffgaming]

@@duncanmcokiner4242 no , all masterpieces all made by bethesda look em up

[@mynamejeffgaming]

@@DoomUvb fallout 3 and fallout 4 are the best in their series, just like oblivion and skyrim are the best elder scrolls games.

[@Jsus0800]

Unpopular Opinion:I love the Artistic Direction of Morrowind,in Oblivion,Cyrodill its just a big Forest with differents colors,was Kinda Boring to explore

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I think for me in oblivion you have to be in the right headspace for it. Alot of the novelty in the environment was the wide scope and variety in locations. In this video Acerthorn was mentioning the different locations in Oblivion and I agree with him the pallet is interesting. The problem I find is alot of it is fashion over function. It's like I'm here, what can I do here? Oh there's a cave I've already explored 46 times fantastic 🤣. I still love Oblivion to death, that's just something I've observed when playing it for so long, oblivion being my first game in the series and all. All unpopular opinions are welcome bud, I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to watch my content.

[@Jsus0800]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Yeahh,Oblivion was My Firts TES too,the first time i was blinded but with the time you will see the flaws Sadly,the repetitive Dungeons do they part to damage the exploration (and the fucking autolevel) besides,i Have warm memories,The Ayleid Ruins are my Second type of Dungeons in the TES Saga and because of that i wanted to Explore the entire map

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@jesus sosa oh yeah, I'd say my least favorite part of Oblivion are the Dungeons; but the ruins are fun to explore. Especially when you do a fists and magic build like I do.

[@MarkJones-gt2qd]

Worse still, oblivion had the dreaded "you can't go that way" message. Morrowind felt unbounded.

[@billycutiep]

You need to prepare for Umbra and the ebony warrior as well.

[@FreaKCSGOHacker]

Sigma PrometheusPrime vs Beta Acerthorn

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Thanks 😊

[@skibbitydibbity355]

Good video man. I watched your oblivion responding to acer too and loved them both and how you're level headed and slip in some quick jokes. Came to watch this since I got a stream with Acer about fallout NV and the way you break it down and factually talk about mechanics and story is how I wanna come across. Good shit man, can't wait to see more from you

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Thanks man and good luck honestly if the stream is anything like the one with Montyspa about acerthorn's dark souls in-depth analysis retrospective review then you'll need the patience of a saint.

[@sylvianapalma958]

I subscribed to you a few hours ago. You have my respect and support.

[@drycomplimentary6363]

It’s to brown says hot dog loving turkey

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Vopyr]

Maybe I'm weird, but I prefer the graphics of Daggerfall and Morrowind to the toxic graphics of Oblivion and the gray graphics of Skyrim. Daggerfall and Morrowind have some kind of spice, some kind of uniqueness.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

That's not weird at all, morrowind and Daggerfall may not have the best graphics; but these games have pretty great design in general. which I believe makes up for it.

[@Randleray]

Morrowind and Daggerfall tryed to make graphics for the game, not for the numbers. What does that mean? Daggerfall was limited in what it could do technically, so it just did was was needed to transport atmosphere and gameplay. Morrowind followed the same principle. thats why you wont see buzzling cities but the two exceptions. Most houses in Morrowind are brown and grey, because cley and stones are an abundance in Morrowind, so the people use what they can get. Oblivion tryed so hard for distance render and particle effects, it completely missed the point, that woods that are supposed to be far away still could be counted for each individual tree top... And Skyrim just went with the average edgelord badass bs around the time of 2010. Todd actually explained that himself in detail. he wanted a cool guy, swinging axes in a cool manner. Skyrim would carry the same blinding colours as Oblivion if it wasnt for the extreme big advances graphics made between 2006 and 2010.

[@Crazy_Diamond_75]

@@Randleray Todd loves barbarians. Morrowind might be his favorite game, but Skyrim was his fantasy.

[@UndeadMessiah]

You have to be high. Morrowind is the ugliest game of the franchise.

[@Vopyr]

@@UndeadMessiah, Bruh.

[@gabrielorusso8084]

the first The Elder Scrolls game I played was Skyrim, in early 2020, then oblivion, Morrowind, Legends and Online and I can tell you I can speak of a person who has only played Skyrim or other franchise games and he is wonderful, there are people who have the game and play for 10 minutes and say it's bad (which doesn't seem to be the acerthorn) since they didn't even play well, if you watch some videos so you don't get discouraged and I'm playing a lot of Morrowind these days and I still plan to play more and more so I'm not those people who only played 10 minutes.

[@shodan2002]

Skyrim wouldn’t be popular without mods the game needs better rpg elements Skywind looks amazing

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Oh yeah

[@TheVioletBunny]

Believe it or not I have near 6000 hours in Skyrim and never once used a mod In gaming ever. Just depends on the person 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@wruzzer]

@@TheVioletBunny how is that even possible. skyrim is literally unplayable without the unofficial patch.

[@AL-nv4gk]

@@wruzzer beacuse SKYRIM is goated quit tryna denegrate it impossible it passed all limits. From xbox 360 to Xbox One to series X games like this and GTA5+Online are special realize that idiot, the sheer want for them exceeds most other games simple.

[@Ma1q444]

Bro if I see one more comment with this horrible take my brain might combust, WTF are you talking about Skyrim was one of the most popular games of all time on the 360 with no mods.

[@rippedgoat3587]

Started morrowind a few months ago(i started with skyrim, then oblivion and then morrowind ) beat the main quest and most side quests and it is my second favourite elder scrolls game just behind oblivion

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Glad to hear it bud; Oblivion for the win 🤣

[@metakarukenshi]

you cant be surprised he argues the ashland visuals should have been changed. he found Oblivion to be beautiful. when lets be honest, oblivion wasnt following the established lore. it changed the lore to make it work for the idealised rolling green fields of an england/rome look to cyrodill. In short. I want my Greco-Roman esque culture in a rainforest cyrodill

[@JonCrs10]

You could probably accomplish that with very little change by making it a temperate rainforest.

[@metakarukenshi]

@@JonCrs10 well thats the thing the lore never says if it's rainforest like amazon or just temperate jungle wetlands. eitherway work. but they kinda just made Cyrodil look like italy or england.

[@bowaster57]

Oblivion easily has the worst landscape of any of the 3D games to me outside of the Imperial City.

[@metakarukenshi]

@@bowaster57 And even the imperial City is dull and boring. you cant really tell the difference between the districts at a glance.

[@bowaster57]

@@metakarukenshi I've heard the same complaints levied against Vivec. I suppose they're fair but also can people not see the massive banners hanging off each canton? Even if you didn't know thr Great House symbols you could guesd that the banners of the 2 Velothi looking dudes are the Saints cantons, the Dunmeri style sword crest is probably House Redoran etc. God I hate Oblivion's world. People who like it aren't Elder Scrolls fans, they're Lord Of The Rings fans

[@domopowerhaus6141]

Soon as I emerged from that dungeon in Oblivion, quit uninstall.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kirara2516]

I have a perfect counter for Acerthorn's "An open world must be beautiful and have good graphics!" argument. Minecraft.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Perfect example bud. Minecraft has a great design and it's the one game I always come back to after a few years.

[@majicweather4890]

Wait. You can kill vivec in Morrowind?? Holy crap. The most I'm fimilar with is Skyrim and ESO, and in ESO which is like 1000 years before all this, u actually help vivec in the main Morrowind mission. Crazy

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Thanks for watching bud.

[@Echo_Wilder_]

Ayo Pro whens the next video coming bro? Been waiting for your amazing takes.

[@Beatsbasteln]

nice um... video podcast-battle, or so :D

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Thanks I think

[@briansanders8122]

Unless the hardware limitations of the early 2000s really did limit their available color palette that much, hasn't Elder Scrolls Online already proven that Morrowind's environment really doesn't have to consist of almost exclusively brown? Warcraft 3 came out the same year.

[@Cyberwar101]

It isn't exclusively brown at all. The starting areas are brown, and the architecture are going to be browns and grays. However there are plenty of areas with more color. Telvanni towers have blues and purples. The grazelands have golden fields. The daedric ruins are ominous black and reds, with sharp angles. Sixth house bases are lit with eery red candles. In places close to red mountain a deep red wind will sweep across the area. Redoran locations are brown on the outside but often colorful and well decorated on the inside, reflecting their character as a people.

[@Randleray]

"exclusively brown?" if people would just be honest about this regurgitated point once... just once... There are more colours in the average Morrowind than in Oblivion (except for SI) and Skyrim... but I guess the player which make this argument again and again are the same people that try to kill a mudcrab with a dagger while shortblade is 5... eg braindead graphic kiddys. Nope, wont debate with you about that, you already proven you just belch out wrong statements, because you couldnt care more than 2 seconds.

[@Randleray]

@@Cyberwar101 "The starting areas are brown" Not even that. You are starting in the belly of a ship - made out of wood. the second you exit the ship you have already more colours in the tutorial of Morrowind than Oblvion, which graces your eye for 15 minutes with what... whiteish grey sewers and grey tunnels full of green-grey goblins - to be fair, there are some shades of silver and red for a couple of seconds... Even In Skyrim you start out with less colours on the carriage ride down to Helgen, which is grey, bluish grey, brown and some rare green-shades. In helgen the palette is the same as in Morrowind. Some colourful details, the rest is grey, brown and depending on the skybox some blue or orange. The point about colour in Morrowind being the same all over the place proves the one making the point a ignorant dumbas, maybe even a fanboy, but nothing else.

[@costelinha1867]

If I hear (Insert random npc here) saying (Insert quote from random npc here) again I'm gonna lose my mind. Oh but nahzem asking you if you go to the cloud district often every five seconds is fine tho.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Exactly. "I heard their reforming the dawnguard."

[@raccoon8385]

I know this was a while ago but I don't think he realized the territory of Morrowind which is on Vvardenfell. It's Literally around a volcano it's going to be brown it's a rustic wasteland

[@SAS-jj8yh]

Skyrim was my introduction to ES, but Morrowind is the only game in the series so far that I've truly cared about

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

And for good reason; It's a great game.

[@bowaster57]

I despise the argument he made for landscape variety. The environment of Morrowind DOES change, even if it doesn't change colour. Morrowind's landscape is thematically appropriate and a great example of worldbuilding. Telvanni controlled land is often isolated, in environments that are difficult to travel if you aren't magically capable (Cliffs and Penninsulas) and is decorated by their signature giant enchanted mushroom towers. Which, by the way, are some very colourful environments if the colour palette was *really* his only gripe. Redoran territory is more ashen, the structures are made from large carapaces in the traditional Dunmer/Chimer/Velothi style, the ancestral heritage of the Dunmer is plastered all over Redoran controlled settlements because they are TRADITIONALISTS. Hlaalu territory is modern and made from Imperial stone with more Cyrodiilic style houses than the rest of Vvardenfell and you damn near cannot go more than 2 residences without finding one that's not a front for a secret organised crime lair. Vvardenfell and it's architecture are so well done from a story-telling standpoint and I love that it's more Middle Eastern inspired than the generic fantasy flavours of Oblivion and partially Skyrim (although that's entirely subjective). If you showed me a city in Skyrim I would not be able to tell you anything about who runs the place or even whether this was a Imperial or Stormcloak sympathetic location (except for Windhelm and Solitude obviously). Show me a snapshot of any of Morrowind's settlements and you can tell which region of the map it's in, which Great House controls that territory and whether the people there are new age worshippers of the Tribunal or traditional worshippers of the Velothi/Good Daedra. At no point am I going to see a Telvanni tower in the South-Western Hlaalu territories, or a Redoran carapace stronghold in the Telvanni Penninsulas of Azura's Coast. IS THAT NOT LANDSCAPE VARIETY??? And think of a location like Tel Vos for example, an abondoned Imperial Fortress being strangled by the roots of the Tel Vos tower itself. Think of the metropolis that is Vivec and it's cantons and it's underworks, or the small fishing villages on the West Coast. Or the Imperial chapels and castles that make up Ebonheart. If you can look me in the face and tell me these are all the same environment you are a liar. I know I typed a million billion words but I've never heard something I disagreed with more in my entire life. He is OBJECTIVELY wrong about that and anyone who's played the game for more than 3 hours can tell.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I couldn't have said it better myself; honestly, I couldn't have. You nailed it.

[@bowaster57]

@@theprometheusprimeshow The weather in game will even change to reflect Dagoth Ur's defeat, the Blight storms will cease and the skies over red mountain will clear up from time to time. It's a dynamic world that works in near perfect tandem with the story the game has to tell. His video feels like one that was made through guesswork. I went to check his full video out on his channel and for someone who said he weclomes criticism, he is not very willing to receive criticism.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@bowaster57 oh yeah, he's really upset at my video debunking his Oblivion video as well.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@bowaster57 That might be correct, considering the fact that he never finished the game.

[@bowaster57]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Why should anyone take what he has to say seriously then. I don't think he's even out to make genuine reviews, I think he's making rage bait under the 'all publicity is good publicity' mindset.

[@Name_cannot_be_blank]

8 dislikes?

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Acerthorn's 8 alt accounts 🤣

[@marlow7376]

having good skill progression doesnt make the combat good just because you can see yourself get much stronger doesnt mean the combat isnt still mindless and boring

[@HighPriestPlays]

in acathornes defense his grahpics complaint was about art direction, which qualitywise, isn't s direrctly affected by the time it came out. case piont, morrowinds art direction is alot better than oblivoin in my opinion, despite being a older game.

[@onanthebarbarian4842]

I dislike it when people defend a hot take by citing that opponents feel nostalgia, and are therefor biased. It's intellectually dishonest because it gives you an easy out against every counterpoint. It also ignores the fact that people having their nostalgia dashed is such a frequent occurrence that nearly everyone has experience with it. And Morrowind isn't a dead game. Not only are people still playing it, people are still actively modding it. So all these people have nostalgia goggles for a game they still actively play? No, I don't think so. The only thing he's right about is that Oblivion's quests are better. But Oblivion's quests are among the best in the genre. Morrowind's "feel" is fundamentally different, being far more exploration focused, its game world consciously divided between heavily populated and sparsely populated areas.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Yeah, the nostalgia argument comes up alot in these types of videos. It predisposes this idea that, because it's something that made us feel good in the past; we can't ever look back and see the flaws. I've been playing Oblivion for a long time, I know all its flaws; in Oblivion there are certain aspects that I'm gonna acknowledge as broken and flawed. When you care about these games, you naturally observe these things. The reason I didn't respond to his point on Oblivions' quests is because I agreed with Acerthorn on that. Now, if I was a dishonest prick, I could flip his argument against him and say, "if you enjoy these quests, then you're nostalgia blinded Acerthorn." Because he played Oblivion first just like I did, but I know Oblivions quests are objectively better. There's more organization, there's more range in what you can do in alot of these quests, sometimes what you have to do in these locations is a bit different from what the objective actually is. now is that a point against Morrowind? Of course not; it's a point in favor of Oblivion. The problem with alot of Acerthorn's videos is that he is criticizing these games things under the assumption that if the game of tomorrow in the same series did somethings better than the previous game; then that previous game is bad, and that's foolish.

[@Jamesmac77]

What would you say is you overall favorite elder scrolls game?

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

That's a tough one; that's like choosing your favorite child but probably oblivion since it introduced me to the series. In fact If you liked this video I have another defending oblivion from the same guy.

[@Jamesmac77]

@@theprometheusprimeshow I’d have to agree with oblivion being the best it definitely had the best atmosphere and quests to me, I’ll check out your oblivion video

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@Jamesmac77 thanks man; I appreciate that. I hope you enjoy it

[@marlow7376]

getting shitloads of sujamma is crazy easy what r u talking about the game has restocking vendors and you can get rich super fast also u can just cast some spells and get infinite sujamma for free with enough fortify mercantile and all of this can be one rather easily from level 1

[@slider7500]

Acer looks like the gods skin noble from Elden ring

[@AlchemistOfNirnroot]

Gotta disagree with running taking fatigue. It actually makes restore fatigue potions more than something to sell. Also there are enchantments like restore fatigue constant effect for more late game progression (Royal Signet Ring - restore health/fatigue 10 pts per second).

[@colbyboucher6391]

Besides, the point is that you're expected to be resting pretty often so that you aren't caught with your pants down.

[@zeroomicron4821]

also running and fatigue really become a non issue if your not using heavy armor and once you get some levels under your belt

[@dyllwill]

Here from the STAG stream. Nice video, interesting to here a response of this from the perspective of someone who likes Morrowind the least out of the last three Elder Scrolls games. I kinda disagree with the journal section, I prefer directions over a quest marker, but I totally agree that the journal should be much better organized. You make your points and back them up and that's exactly the kind of thing that draws me to people like Creetosis and Mauler. Looking forward to your response to the New Vegas video! Creetosis and his hooters have already done that one and man, it's a ride lol. Easily the worst video they've covered. Hope to see you on STAG again and looking forward to your future content. Have a great day :)

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Thank you and there were a few points I look back on that I shouldn't have let him have like the quest section I only recently found out the quest directions on fail you a few times and there are lots of quests and I wish I went into detail about all the different locations in morrowind to show they aren't all brown I might remaster this video. Thanks for watching 😊 the video was very fun to make

[@zander2758]

Also if i had to critique your video, on your sections about how he was complaining the world was brown it'd have been a strong argument to talk about how more colors does not equal more interesting landscapes, i mean fallout 4 has a lot of colour to it, but i've found the landscapes in it to be generally boring because they are not interesting on their own, also how he praises oblivion, despite oblivion being a good 90% green land, so he saying morrowind is worse because brown, but oblivion is better basically amounts to him saying he prefers an overly green game over an overly brown one. also i think you played some clips of him thay where unecessary, generally you'll want to skip those since they don't contribute much to the substance of a response. also i'd like to make a point about how artstyle >graphical fidelity, sure morrowind has less polygons than what came after, but it does have a far more interesting style to it, with stuff like the giant mushrooms and the darker areas with ash storms, opposed to oblivion and skyrim which are generic fantasy.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

You know what that was the particular section I wish I spent more time on. I kick myself alot for not showing him the variety in location in morrowind that aren't brown. I just might remaster the video because I made some points that only in hindsight that could have been better. Thanks for the criticism this will help me in my later responses btw don't forget to check out my "measured response to why post apocalyptic worlds make no since" video. I think you'll enjoy that more.

[@zander2758]

@@theprometheusprimeshow yeah i'll check ot out, i love post apocalypse worlds moreso than fantasy, so it'd be an interesting watch.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

as a Florida man, lemme tell ya... living in an overly green world sucks.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@josephbrandenburg4373 🤣🤣

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

Also, I know I'm late, but it's probably a good idea to let you know this guy is one of the most insane DMCA abusers you will ever come across and will spam lawsuits as a get-rich-quick scheme.

[@JoeEnderman]

There is no way that he played very far in to the game or many of his criticisms would be different, or removed.

[@NoMaloneUnturned2]

I love watching nerds critique other nerds. I'm on your side nerd, keep up the good work!

[@pumpkin6429]

What's that violin tune playing in the background as you're talking?

[@tokindaily7103]

how has he not copyright struck you lol

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

He offhandly threatened to do it in my oblivion video response to him; if you want to see the insanity that took place its still in my comment sections. 🤣

[@tokindaily7103]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Dude is a Looney. smh

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@tokindaily7103 agreed 🤣 thanks for watching bud.

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@theprometheusprimeshow i havent watched either video yet but i cant understand how tf he would say its overrated.. most troglodytes play skyrim not morrowind.. how tf could it be overrated most people now days are too worried about grAPHics.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@sirspongadoodle you'll find that acerthorn is full of shit and his arguments don't line up with reality.

[@ScottCastle]

Lorerunner shout out. Nice

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

He makes fantastic stuff

[@92Beyo]

Acer got hacked! Check out his channel!

[@marlow7376]

what fuck does the games being from different generations have to do with the colour pallet updates in technology doesnt make art design/direction magically get better

[@marlow7376]

if its supposedly a technology issue why doesn't daggerfall have this problem, even with procedural generated cities and dungeons theres wayy more variation in colour pallets for different areas,

[@billycutiep]

Um I think your confused because yes it does.

[@stevo271]

That guy is annoying just by the way he talks.

[@MrTerribleLie]

He's reading his own words like he's reading the words of a great poet. Stumbling along and fucking up some words.

[@SJDSt]

Morrowind is for some people who understand how to play with dice and love to read books. It's not meant for your average Joe. If you play with a marker on the map, you need voice acting and just want to hack and slash. Stay away from this game.

[@TrentR42]

Island of Volcanic Ash? Never explored the Grazelands or Ascadian Isles? Both places with suuuuper fertile soil for farms and green growth. (The nutrients come FROM the volcanic activity). Also Molag Amar and Dagoth Ur are not brown either.

[@nickelakon5369]

"Morrowind was a good looking game for its time" I love morrowind but even for its time it was dated looking both model wise and animation wise. Its understandable though, since they wanted to go for a larger world, but it was definitely not a looker even back then. I feel like people act like morrowind came out in like 1998 It came out in 2002, look at other games that released that year, final fantasy X, kingdom hearts, gta 3 and vice city, tony hawk's pro skater 4...

[@hironguyen1708]

The same agruement could have been say with Skyrim. Skyrim wasn’t so much good looking with the game of those time either, and don’t even mention Oblivion. People don’t play The Elder Scroll game for its graphic or combat, otherwise they would have quit since DaggerFall (in other case, Fallout 1 or modern day, Kenshi from another studio). They love Morrowind cause of its rich lore and worldbuilding. If the graphic’s bad, no it isn’t. It’s “Bethesda standard” beautifull.

[@nickelakon5369]

@@hironguyen1708 I'd argue it's far more pronounced with morrowind. Skyrim might not have been good for the time, but it was passable for the time, same with oblivion. Morrowind is like if a game that looked like oblivion was released today.

[@Randleray]

@@nickelakon5369 Morrowind had shading and lighting effects with actual volume. Right out of my mind I cannot think of anything that came out the same time with similar graphics tech. The first Far Cry is the only exception here. Are we talking about Morrowind "looking" bad, because its colour palette has not the variety other games of that time, or are we talking about actual graphics? there is a difference most people just miss completely while talking about "Morrowind has bad graphics". The Gamebryo engine enabled rather big texture details for 2002, it enabled rather fluent animations and some impressive lighting. Literally most arguments about bad Morrowind graphics just carry a very subjective perspective. because the second you start to count in the actual capability of what the gamebryo could and really just did back then, you will find, that most People have a very very warped view. That cannot be debated on a subjective level.

[@nickelakon5369]

@Randleray no Morrowind looks bad because its models, textures, and animation are all generation behind other games. Perhaps the lighting tech you are referring to is to blame for that. But look at all the other games I referred to, and you can see what I'm talking about. Morrowind character models are far more low poly than other games from the time, the textures are also way less clear, and the animations are just outright bad. There is no taste involved here. It's just a fact that these were not graphically up to the standard of games of the Era. Morrowind was behind the standards of its time of release. The environment looks great to me though, especially the water.

[@Randleray]

@@nickelakon5369 I just went and googeled final fantasy x to have a reference... and oh boy... if you are not refering to the hd remaster - which I hope you dont - it makes your argument about graphics even more so wrong... You may want to repolish your perception of the graphical standard between 2000 and 2005. Something tells me you only played the remasters of your example games 10 years later... The other examples of yours are not so far off. really, go back and google for images which are not some overhaul or remastere. Morrowind surely had not the best graphics - no one said that to begin with. But as someone that played GTA Vice City as it was released back in the day, let me tell you, your perception is miles off.

[@liebertmusic]

Morrowind is the only game that has given me a feeling of membership to a group or guild in-game. Raw progress through each guild rank always made sense and other group members actually treated you as they should considering your and their rank. It has also given me a connection to characters in-game. A feeling which any other game couldn't have created in me. Main quest, though it feels like it's stretched, overall is great. Going through it has always led you to a lot of variety, a thing that Skyrim for example has never done. In Skyrim main quest you just had to talk to npc, go somewhere and bring something. There's no such variety in Skyrim as there is in Morrowind. In Skyrim, main quest especially, you usually talk to a Nord npc; not even talking about how it is hard to know what race a character in Skyrim is until you have checked the wiki. It's not my point here to say Skyrim is bad, because I think it's still great and it was my first tes game, but I think Morrowind has captured the elder scrolls' world much better. Talking about variety, the point acer made about terrain is not true. I remember as it was today when I went to Azura's Coast, those green landscapes! It literally felt like it was a different world, the culture is different. For now it is all I had to say, maybe I'll update this comment later.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Yeah Acer's point on the landscape was wrong from all angles, I was showing footage of many different types of terrain while debunking as points. 🤣

[@khatack]

If you say that Morrowind doesn't suck, you do not understand Morrowind. If you say that Morrowind isn't a masterpiece, you do not understand Morrowind. Both statements are true, Morrowind is a masterpiece that sucks. It has parts of pure brilliance, but also unforgivable flaws.

[@SJDSt]

The flaws from nowadays point of view, yes. Back then, when I played it freshly out of the box in 2002, in a 14' inch CRT monitor, it was breathtaking with it's first and third pov, when most games from that era were isometric. The only thing that looked better was Lineage 2, one year later, in 2003. Was it buggy? Yeah, like every game from that era. You already knew that you gotta fix it yourself, that is why they packed it with the CS. You didn't have online support 24 hs like nowadays, and you bought expansion packs, not dc. The game was one of its kind.

[@khatack]

@@SJDSt "Like every game from that era" Yeah, that's bullshit. Morrowind was extremely buggy even in comparison to contemporary titles. Also, I'm not talking about graphics. Although the the game has OBVIOUSLY aged rather poorly in the visual department, it is still completely playable. The thing about Morrowind is that it also has serious game design issues all the way from the ridiculously stupid leveling scheme to how skill effects are calculated. Morrowind has plenty of amazing things going for it, but in many ways it was garbage even when it came out; plenty of it being obvious to anyone who has even a passing grasp of high-school level math.

[@ChaosZero.]

I was old enough to play and appreciate all of the TES games up to and including Morrowind and they were great back in the day. But the main issue has always been the combat system. D24 mechanics never have been and never will be appropriate for a real time combat system and anybody defending it is just delusional or looking for confirmation bias. In J/CRPGs and otherwise turn based combat games it's still annoying, but it makes sense because it's much more akin to a pen & paper tabletop RPG like D&D or Warhammer 40k. A game session can take a long time, but inbetween dice rolls you have a laugh and a chat with your friends, you manually move your miniatures around the map and the time goes by that way. In games such as Morrowind however, it really does not. You and your opponent can stand 2ft apart from each other swinging your swords all day long and still miss every single swing for no logical reason other than some arbitrary numbers saying you're not good enough. But even a bad swordman can and should land a hit if they swing their weapon in the general direction of their opponent. It won't be fatal, it won't be "accurate", but it'll land. Granted, at higher levels and with high enough agility/strength (other than proficiency in your weapon of choice) and a full bar of fatigue you tend to land hits more consistently, but it's still a dumb and outdated system that was already going out of fashion 20 years ago when Morrowind first released in 2002. Morrowind wouldn't be a better game with a super realistic combat system either (like the area-based one in Kingdom Come Deliverance for example where you do damage based on where you hit your opponent), but there is a reason why almost every RPG since Morrowind (and KOTOR1&2 which also used the D24 system) moved onto a better system based on always landing hits and using stat checks just to determine how much damage the player effectively dealt.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I agree. I briefly mentioned it in my video but missing a shot from a bow and arrow at point blank range, just because your character has the sleepies is a ridiculous system.

[@keyboardstalker4784]

This comment is basically “WTF I ran up to the mudcrab in seyda neen with the iron dagger and low fatigue! How am I missing all my swings?!?”

[@wruzzer]

@@keyboardstalker4784 i walked, used a bow, did use a marksman build and still missed all my shots because the system is utter garbage for everything but crpgs.

[@keyboardstalker4784]

@@wruzzer what level were you, and what were you fighting?

[@wruzzer]

@@keyboardstalker4784 lvl 1, mudcrab. but it doesn't matter tbh. even if i would have negative levels and was blind i should be able to hit a mudcrab that's right infront of me.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

My 2 cents about the video: Most people find this after seeing the other one, since his channel is bigger... I imagine this is even more true of reactions to big channels. So I think it's safe to assume the audience has seen the other video. Thus, I think it would be better to edit down the other guy's points or summarise them, the clips of the other video are a bit too long in your video, especially given the... eh, questionable audio quality in the other video. At least please cut out his mistakes and pauses! That being said, it didn't start to annoy me until about 20 or 30 minutes in, and then only because I'd just seen the other one.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

thanks for watching I'll do that next time and honestly I might remaster this video. my next video will be out soon. Thanks for the criticism; please stay tuned for my next response.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

@@theprometheusprimeshow thanks for making the video!

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@josephbrandenburg4373 you're a Rockstar and my next response will be wayyyy better 😊

[@TheVioletBunny]

I found this looking for an actual morrowind retrospective being it’s my all time favorite game. But it’s pretty funny listening to this S’wit have such bad takes, and listening to a real fan point out how stupid his opinions are. I’ve see other videos on that dude he has shite tier opinions on the souls Games too.

[@jamespaguip5913]

Acerthorn is worst than Dojii if you know who Dojii is he’s a shill and a hypocrite he can’t handle criticism.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Acerthorn is worse than everyone 🤣

[@axelwulf6220]

What's this? Someone on the internet telling someone else their opinions are wrong? Don't get me wrong, I see this almost as much as seeing a Game Over screen. The issue is people making a reaction video to another video, on any given topic There's a React-Ception pandemic going, where it's a reaction video to a reaction video, of a a guy reacting to a reaction video, of several other people reacting to reactions, and the content is (name a topic) What he was saying was how Morrowind is placed in the pillar, and all others are pale imitations He was saying how dull it was because it was all sepia tones The color pallet wasn't exciting, and the fact that it takes place near an active volcanic region tells me they really didn't put fourth a lot of effort Technical limitations be damned, they stuck with one color and they picked the most boring one Sepia Tones And as limiting it was, that unless you were a very specific character type, there where certain things you would be unable to do and you pretty much were shooting yourself in the foot if you didn't choose that particular character build

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I will say that I wasn't trying to tell him his opinion on the game is wrong, he can like or dislike anything he wants. The problem is throughout his video he actively misrepresents the game and gets things blatantly wrong throughout. Then tries to make a point that most people who enjoy the game are just nostalgia blinded which is pretty insulting. I would have actually preferred if Acerthorn responded in the way you suggested; especially before all the dmca abuse. I'm not so much reacting as I'm more responding to his points that aren't really made in earnest because he bashes morrowind for having only a brown landscape; even though that's not true, but praises oblivion while having graphical mods on to take screenshots. The problem is that in his video he sets himself up as someone who is gonna martyr himself just because he doesn't like a game, but in reality nobody really cares and that's actually kind of insulting as well. The reason I made my video is because most of the points he made were misrepresenting, or blatantly untrue. I think reviewers should try to be fair and honest about their criticisms of media or at the very least understand the media you're reviewing, and he didn't so I responded; I even agreed with some of his points throughout the video because it's not all bad just alot of it is. His video was more of a slideshow than a fair analysis honestly. I Appreciate you watching the video bud, but I think you might have missed the point of my video, and that's alright; I hope I cleared a few things up.

[@mikelima127l.1]

@@theprometheusprimeshow for real i am just 15 yrs old and i am very addicted to this game, What kind of nostalgia would i have?. Of course none because i am young

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@mikelima127l.1 right lol

[@mikelima127l.1]

@@theprometheusprimeshow ?

[@axelwulf6220]

In all honesty I have a bit of a soft spot for Morrowind Mainly for how much character interaction with NPCs you have, and how there was a strip club I may or may not have accidentally stumbled into

[@ma2perdue]

I still like it the best, but for mostly non quantifiable reasons like feeling and story

[@tompadinho]

"Well akshually..." people are entitled to their opinion you know? Some people don't like chocolate, some people like driving old clunky cars.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I agree, I never want to take that away from him or anyone. He's just incorrect about some things. So given that fact if he has a right to his opinion and be wrong then I have a right to correct him. It works both ways bud.

[@tompadinho]

@@theprometheusprimeshow I still believe that the, however poorly worded, "Oblivion shakes things up" is a valid point which isn't really adressed in your video. A common argument is that the journal and lack of map markers makes Morrowind the "bestest game ever". What bothers me with the quests is that the NPCs has clairvoyant knowledge of every quest. They know exactly where you are supposed to go and exactly where some item is. Go and get it and we're buddies. In Morrowind 99% of the quests are: a) find item X over at position Y b) you find the item at that exact location c) you recall back for your reward Of course you also get a yellow sqare (here, let me mark it on your map) close to the item location and then just go N, S, E, W from that yellow square. The empty landscape makes the cave or whatever you want to find, easy to locate. It's simple. In Oblivion you often meet some NPC during the quest who will give you new knowledge that the quest giver just didn't know about. Oblivion has branching questlines, something that Morrowind just doesn't have, with the exception of the very final quest where you get a list of several things to do in the same quest. Overall quest design is a huge minus for Morrowind IMHO.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@Tomas Nilsson The reason I didn't address the Oblivion point is because I agreed with him, I even added my own criticisms of morrowinds quests in terms of organization and journal logging. What you are saying about morrowind Quests are true with the exception of a few outliers and the main quest. I agree with acerthorn that the quest death of a taxman was pretty short but this is a quest you get at the beginning of the game. He was also presenting the quest in a dishonest way by reducing it to the most bare bones description to make it sound as boring and lazy as possible. If he feels it's boring that's fine, but the framing is the issue; and he claims that this review is giving a fair shot to the game when in the review alot of the criticisms are anything but that.

[@Randleray]

@@tompadinho "What bothers me with the quests is that the NPCs has clairvoyant knowledge of every quest." Uhhm... someone clearly never playied more than 3 hours into Morrowind. there are plenty - PLENTY - of example quests, where you are given flatout wrong directions or directions that, if followed, will get you lost if you dont plan your own route accordingly. In some cases quest givers directly say they dont know what you will face at your destination. The very first two quest you will encounter in Morrowind already dont tell you ANY exact directions... MAN!! Compare that to Oblivion, where you literally just have to follow the magical marker. I am absolutely flabberghasted how some people can prove their own points wrong and then still insist in having their own opinion... Morrowind has flaws, Not a single fan will denie that. But the form of which Skyrim and Oblivion fanboys try to prove Morrowind wrong/bad is just hilarious and insane at the same time.

[@tompadinho]

@Randleray I've played all guilds and the expansions, as well as the Main Quest, several times. I've heard there's only one quest out of hundreds where you are given the wrong directions. So no... play the game again and you'll see how easy it is to find your way in Morrowind. Finding a door in an otherwise empty landscape is very, very easy. You say there are "PLENTY" (your capitalisation) quests that differ, but don't offer any substance to your arguments. Keep trying, I'm sure you'll form av cohesive non ranting sentence one day.

[@UNIRockLIVE]

My first platform was technically the atari... But was the nes really They all are good for theit own reasons

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Definitely bud, there's nothing like the classics.

[@mmdrezakh]

Sigma male

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

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[@versus22REALLY]

Who's here because of a bunch of furries? UwU

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

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[@versus22REALLY]

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[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@versus22REALLY 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for watching

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@versus22REALLY btw make sure you watch my next video I think you'll enjoy it 😊

[@versus22REALLY]

@@theprometheusprimeshow OwO I will can't wait

[@morticianflame]

Can't expect a Skybaby to appreciate and be able to play a game like Morrowind, which actually requires you to properly build a character, and to figure things out yourself. Unlike Skyrim which holds your hand the entire game and tells you where to go and what to do

[@UndeadMessiah]

So, Daggerfall does everything better than Morrowind?

[@Diorden119]

@@UndeadMessiah Based and Daggerpilled opinion

[@Passageofsky]

​@@UndeadMessiahDaggerfall is great

[@billycutiep]

​@@UndeadMessiahif you think so then you should be happy to hear Once Lost Games is made up of the original elder scrolls team. Their game they are making sounds promising.

[@UndeadMessiah]

@@billycutiep I know I've watched the interview. If its a true successor that game is gonna be insane. But I'm an oblivion guy so I'm waiting on the rumored remaster.

[@baryony]

They're more than just elitists lol, they're like fanatic cultists, and I'm not sure they're a minority. Just last week I was viciously attacked and insulted in a TES FB group for criticizing Morrowind eventhough I actually love the game (playing Tamriel Rebuilt these days, which has been my favourite TES experience so far) and talked about a lot of its highlights as well. For reference, this was the comment: "It's was the best of times, and it was the worst of times. Devs literally didn't care about making the quests interesting. The game was buggy and clunky, the dungeons were boring and bland, the items were designed weird, the game itself had a million different exploits, and some skills were completely useless. The game was limited a lot, so it would work on consoles. On the other hand; the spell making was great, the atmosphere was amazing, the world building was top notch, and immersion was great. I still play it. Though I must admit; when it comes to mechanics, bug fixing, and designing quests and dungeons, mod makers are legit better than the devs." Also, to be fair, there are games older than Morrowind that had more variety in their color palette like Might and Magic 6.

[@hironguyen1708]

just come here to say that Morrowind was great, but Tamriel Rebuilt was GOAT.

[@Cyberwar101]

I think it might be selection bias. FB fangroups often attract the most rabid fans of whatever they are set up for. Also, Facebook as a platform, isn't particularly good at nuanced discussions.

[@Randleray]

I mean... entering fb is already like stepping on a mine... Edit: "Devs literally didn't care" Sorry, just noticed that in your post... I am sorry, but if you started to debate Morrowind like that, you would be getting attacked not just by elitists, but by any TES fan - and rightfully so. Not liking some tes games i one thing. To say Bethesda didnt care up until a certain entry is simply wrong. It is literally the same rout of "argument" Acerthorn goes down and gets whooped for. Morrowind was the last entry that actually cared intertwining questlines. Oblvion already put away with that mostly. In Skyrim factions are isolated bubbles. and there are dozens of videos on yt that explain exactly that, so I wont just put up describing examples. Every TES was buggy and clunky at day one. thats not an argument for or against Morrowind. If Morrowinds dungeons are broing and bland, you clearly didnt vistit more than the 5 required dungeons in the game. there are some interesting dungeons in Skyrim, but Oblivion literally has ONE shade of grey it uses for EVERY dungeon... Despite Morrowind not being better in that case, it at least has a big variety. but you will only encounter that, if you actually go out and play the game... The items at lest had some design. Oblvion had some unique designs, but just look at the variety Skyrim has... sure, they have greater detail, but that doesnt help the fact, that every archtype of a weapon literally looks the same but the material... I take 'weird design' over that boring crap any day. The 'limited a lot for consoles' is also an interesting point, when Morrowind had overall just more options than Oblivion and Skyrim combined in every aspect of the games. Before making such a statement, you might want to explain 'limited'. Now you can just slap my points away with what you just stated already 'I am a elitist fanboy': Fair enough, doesnt change anything about my points proving your statements simply wrong.

[@baryony]

God I've literally written you a book, but youtube refreshed itself before I could even send it :/ To sum it up to a great degree, I have no reason to call you an elitist fanboy. In fact I've already implied in my comment that I reserve such definitions for people who are being toxic only because I've had a different opinion. No, I don't deserve to be insulted because I don't share some of their opinions. People should be able to debate calmly, rationally, and in a mature manner. I don't dislike Morrowind. It's one of my all time favorite titles. Just because I see a lot of flaws in it doesn't change the fact that I also see a lot of greatness in it. I've said Bethesda didn't care only concerning the quests, context is important. And I still stand by that statement. Most factions have their last quest which involves killing the faction leader in the arena, which is ridiculous. What kind of legion can function like that? Almost all Morag Tong quests are about killing people without any creativity, and even any need for any attempt at stealth (unlike Oblivion's dark brotherhood which rewards creativity and stealth). Most faction quests actually resemble radiant quests from Skyrim or randomly generated quests of Daggerfall. There is very little story or creativity involved in them. Don't get me wrong I love and prefer Morrowind's faction mechanics (like connected quests, having to choose between two factions, and skill requirements for promotions) to Oblivion's or Skyrim's, but that doesn't necessarily make the quests fun (such quests often involve killing the opposing faction's leaders, along with some other stuff that I've found boring in general). Other TES games were never as buggy or clunky as Morrowind, and they've mostly received fixes by devs, which didn't happen to a great degree to Morrowind. You can have permanent summons in Morrowind by using spellmaking to cast a summoning spell and soultrap together, all the powers of Superman including permanent flight, strenght high enough to one shot the living gods with one hit with the worst weapon in the game (which also disintegrates the weapon), super speed, super intelligence (that can last for ages because potion effects stack), the base run speed is so low I think it was the real reason they've put the boots of blinding speed to the game so close to the starting area, merchants have grossly low amount of septims despite having a lot of super expensive stuff in their inventory (it's so low some merchants who have around 200,000 septim worth of items have around 1,000 septims to spend, so selling certain unenchanted, single items actually require the player to pay the merchant first even if the merchant has many of those items in their inventory to begin with), unarmored skill actually gives you zero armor if you aren't wearing at least one piece of armor...etc. Oblivion dungeons are terrible and one of the most criticized aspects of the game along with level scaling. Oblivion having flaws doesn't prevent Morrowind from having it's own flaws though. Morrowind item variety and appearance is amazing to say the least. I'm still waiting for Bethesda to bring back spears and and thrown weapons. However I was referring to the enchantments and stats on items when I was talking about items having been designed weird, Good point about the limitation issue. The most obvious one I can think right now (I've written the original comment ages ago) is the number of NPCs allowed in a cell. It's quite low in every TES game since Morrowind due to console limitations. The most extreme example is from Skyrim though. Town of Whiterun literally has six people to pay taxes which would be needed to pay the guards' wages. All other people are either the Jarl's court, or live outside of the town at the college. Only buildings in the town are the Jarl's longhouse, a shop, an inn, and one friggin' house. It's quite ridiculous really.

[@sirspongadoodle]

i cant believe acerthorn says that most morrowind fans started off playing morrowind.. i just started playing it and skyrim is my first game.. so i obviously dont have nostalgia and i love morrowind.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Yeah the nostalgia argument is one of my least favorite arguments. I've played morrowind last year for the first time and had way for freedom and challenge than I ever did in Skyrim.

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@theprometheusprimeshow yeah morrowind is amazing... i dont get that he critics the world.. like sure it does have the color brown in it.. doesnt mean it isnt an amazingly built world with tons of unique things to see..

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@theprometheusprimeshow i guess he has a phobia of brown??

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@sirspongadoodle 🤣🤣🤣 he says the same about new vegas.

[@TheVioletBunny]

I started with daggerfall when I was a kid. And didn’t play much video games again until Skyrim I got it the day of release than back tracked to all the games I missed and became the biggest morrowind fan.

[@RonDon_Jovi]

Morrowind will always be my favorite like ff7 will always be my favorite JRPG however followed closely by CronoTrigger

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I feel you, I've never played CronoTrigger but I'll have to play it at some point.

[@surfofsinify]

Lol I remember my Atari 2600 and then upgrading to a 7800

[@surfofsinify]

What would he say about dagger fall

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@surfofsinify probably much more terrible things 🤣 Acerthorn can't take responsibility and say maybe I screwed up.

[@surfofsinify]

@@theprometheusprimeshow lol

[@surfofsinify]

@@theprometheusprimeshow oh I was going to ask if you thought about putting shorts out to try to get your views up

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@surfofsinify I honestly have thought about it but I'm trying to figure out how I'll translate that to what I do with my response videos. 🤔

[@redseagaming7832]

Since i've never played Elder scrolls 3 I can't really critique it. But I played oblivion skyrim And I enjoyed those games a lot. Until elder scrolls three ends up on the p s five I'll probably never play it

[@aldd_tv]

Ittl never be remastered or ported to newer consoles or a newer engine, the game is somewhat symbolic for Todd Howard and the team that worked on it, and they’ve said that a few times before- they want players to experience the game for what it is

[@Obeesius]

@redseagaming7832 Just so you know, Morrowind will run great on even potato PC’s. It’s over 20 years old. No need to wait.

[@spimpsmacker6422]

If you have a pc that can run Minecraft chances are you can probably run Morrowind too, albeit with some fan-patches and mods to make it compatible.

[@tut28Angel]

I just got morrowind. I've sent 5 hours and haven't leveled up yet. Lol im not just. But yet I'm liking it. Tho I get lost easily. Still fun.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Morrowind is a fantastic experience, keep playing I'd also recommend playing a magic build; it's lots of fun.

[@tut28Angel]

@@theprometheusprimeshow my Canon lore is a lizard rogue. But I made a magic build for another character

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@tut28Angel that's cool; I generally go Breton all the way for magic builds.

[@tut28Angel]

@@theprometheusprimeshow most of my Canon characters are breton. Elder scrolls 2 4 5 and eso. They are all part of them same family. Even the none breton ones. The FireBlade family. Lol

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@tut28Angel yeah I feel you. They butchered magic in skyrim unfortunately. In the pursuit of making magic more balanced, they instead made magic the worst build to make without mods.

[@Windrider784]

Oblivion removing the dice rolls was a good idea though.

[@dalewilson2741]

The fatigue system in oblivion makes its combat worse. They traded satisfying progression for wet noodles swords.

[@Windrider784]

@@dalewilson2741 Morrowind just makes you miss for no reason if you're fatigued.

[@dalewilson2741]

with higher weapons skills it doesn't matter much unless you're fighting a more powerful enemy with high agility or armor skills. In oblivion you hit every time but with no fatigue your damage output is almost halved. You could see how eventually the dice-roll system suffer less from fatigue, than oblivions 100% hit chance one.

[@Windrider784]

@@dalewilson2741 Yeah but it's less luck-based

[@Corner-for-Assorted-Oats]

As long as you're proficient in a skill you won't miss very often, you're complaining about a system you clearly don't understand​@@Windrider784

[@nickelakon5369]

the combat and stamina systems are perfectly fine. everytime someone like you complains about it without fail, I always find completely refused to engage with its rules, and that results in them "not liking it cause I can't walk up and tap the creatures to death." it comes acrossed as incredibly childish to say its a bad system. I'm also like you by the way, Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls, I rented it from blockbuster frequently. I only played Morrowind pretty recently and I haven't even finished it mostly cause I tend not to play through Elderscrolls games all at once and take numerous breaks into play where I play other games. so this isn't a nostalgia blindness or anything. when you engage with the rules the combat system actually feels pretty good, you can't play the pre-oblivion Elder scrolls games the same way as the new ones where your character is always a formless jack of all trades. if you aren't trained in a weapontype DONT USE IT, even if it's better than what you have, your inability to use the weapon will negate any advantages the gear would otherwise give you. When you have no training and try to hit people with things you're gonna fuck up, you're gonna whif hits or mess up edge alignment, and when you get winded, from running around or being in a long fight, it's only gonna get worse, and the game simulates that through the hit chance system. I understand that a lot of people see the models collide and go "I hit why didn't that do damage" but you can't engage with the system that way, not being able to animate the opponent blocking, or a near miss, or their armor deflecting your blow is just another limitation of the engine you shouldn't judge the game for.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Oh, yeah I knew very little about the game back then. yeah I should probably remaster this video or update it; I gave Acerthorn that point because it was frustrating at the time for me but I no longer believe that. The system at large is pretty consistent and works well for what it is. I actually enjoy that aspect of morrowind now and it allows me more roleplaying opportunities; stopping in taverns to rest after a dungeon, you know. Spending time brewing potions also helped me with that. The Combat is pretty tight and even though I played Morrowind last I recently find myself replaying it again and again. Honestly I was more fighting Acerthorn's points more than i was making criticisms of the game, as you can probably see by our comments in this video; thanks for watching bud.

[@wruzzer]

i don't agree. the combat system is fine for crpgs, as acerthorn said already. i love it in those games. but when i played morrowind, it was just frustrating af. i went for a marksman build, like i always do in rpgs with my first character, tried to kill my first creature and only 5% of my shots did connect. that's just bullshit. even in a crpg that wouldn't happen. rest of what acer said was dumb, but that was a valid point. the combat sucks, don't know how anyone can defend the biggest flaw this game has.

[@bubz_bs]

@@wruzzer While I agree chance based combat is a dated mechanic I still feel like it's better than oblivion or Skyrim combat. In these games it's completely unengaging, one button to attack, one button to block. Really hope they improve upon it in TES6, imagine if we had KCD combat or mount and blade directional strikes/block.

[@wruzzer]

@@bubz_bs agreed, it's the main reason why i prefer magic and bows in those games. melee weapons are stoopid.

[@mikoajd.4007]

But Morrowind has some of the worst side quests (and most of the main quests) in a game ever made, watering it down completely, even if you compare it to an early 2000s RPG. it is important to make such comparisons with games from a similar period or earlier. If you are familiar with old games, you can freely make such comparisons between them. Morrowind's only advantages are the world creation and faction system. The embarrassing quality of the rest can be proven mathematically. I am writing this as a fan of Dagerrfal.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I would be okay with comparing old RPGs to each other, and I agree with much of what you say; the problem is Acerthorn didn't do that. He proceeded to compare morrowind to Oblivion and Skyrim, with Morrowind and Skyrim having also a decade and 2 console generations later. He proceeded to use newer games from earlier generations to make his point which is arguing quality in bad faith.

[@TheRealAbraxas]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Morrowind and Skyrim are 9 years and 1 console generation apart.

[@Cyberwar101]

I actually agree on the side quest thing. The side quests in the tutorial village were good and memorable, and set me up for disappointment later on. There were a few side quests of that quality elsewhere, but it was mostly pretty bad. And God those escort missions could be a nightmare. This is perfectly valid criticism of the game. I love the game, but side quests are not where it shines.

[@sensacionsombria5125]

I honestly don't like Morrowind, it's just sucks FOR ME. Feels unplayable

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I understand, I also had alot of trouble when I first played it. I'm only so good at the game now because of all the trial and error I went through. I still haven't beaten the game and I've been playing it for 2 years. So I understand your frustration, I was right there with you, but once you get it and it all starts to make sense; you'll be victorious.

[@assertingdominance1759]

Skill issue...but fr the game is hard if you don't have a lot of patience or some understanding of the mechanics of it but otherwise it just takes a lot of dedication

[@sensacionsombria5125]

@@assertingdominance1759 skill issue is just an excuse. The game sucks. I'm hitting like 80 times one feet away from an enemie and I still can't land a hit lol who made this

[@assertingdominance1759]

@@sensacionsombria5125 what's you're usual stat on the weapon skill you main?

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@AssertingDominance Absolutely, when you go back to play a lot of games from the 5th generation; you'll find that most games from that era were either easy breezy or hard as balls. 🤣 the middle grounds were pretty rare from what I remember experiencing. Thanks for watching, bud.

[@void9399]

3:16 Nice video, but I think you didn't understand what he meant by being a CRPG without skills and partners. CRPGs are basically role-playing games strongly based on D&D, which implies that the game and combat system is based on having a party with different characters with exclusive and complementary abilities. That is not possible in Morrowind because the game is a single player ARPG. The player avatar has to do everything in the game: fight, heal, open chests, etc. The problem is that in Morrowind (and in a certain way Oblivion) a random die system was put without having the other systems of a CRPG. And there really are no companions in this game, at least not functional ones.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

True. I thought he said "morrowind doesn't have any skills or companions. Which are both untrue statements; now if the question is are the companions actually useful in any sense that is up for debate. But I'd say no 🤣. For me a companion is just someone who follows you and helps you fight and occasionally adds dialog to a situation which was basically the standard for elder scrolls games back then. But if what you said was the argument he was making then I'll Concede that point; no problem. Thanks for watching my video i have a new response video that will be coming out soon so stay tuned for that. 😊

[@void9399]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Yes, I agree that a partner should help you fight and add dialogue, something that has been especially noted in Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4. Since current Fallout games and Elder Scrolls games are ARPG, that should be their role. I also left a criticism on his video about his false claim that there is no variety of ecosystems in Vvardenfell. And good luck in your new video, I am going to subscribe then to see it.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@void9399 to be fair sometimes I look back at my video and think of how I could have made it better all the time. Showing the variety of locations and color pallettes used in morrowind was the most common thing I thought about. Like i could have done so much more with that segment and I think about making another video responding to my response and making better points against the points I made; but I told acerthorn I'd let him have the last word so I'm just gonna have to deal with it. Anyway thanks for subscribe you'll see my next video soon; these video game related responses are easy to make the only hard part is getting the relevant footage together and trying to not bore your audience to death. 🤣

[@void9399]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Don't worry, like any skill, it requires mistakes and practice to polish it. And maybe you could just make a video where you highlight all those points without having to mention Acerthorn, just clarify that after watching your video you found some elements in which you would like to delve into, leaving aside Acerthorn's opinions and focus only on your opinions and in the characteristics of the game. Just as a tip I remind you to try to keep an objective stance on the game, otherwise you could end up being another channel that just throws "flowers" on Morrowind. It is good to highlight the positive and negative elements of any game. And a bonus tip: maybe you should think about changing the channel name to something more specific. At least take away the numbers. That way it would look more "serious" and it would be easier for those who see it to identify it and not just dismiss it by name.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@void9399 thanks for the advice, when I first started my channel it was just a place for me and my friends to blow off steam from the organization we worked for; but a change in name just might make the channel more accessible. Thanks 😊

[@TheVioletBunny]

Your commentary is good. I’d love to hear you do a true retrospective on the elder scrolls series without bringing this asserthorn clown into it. It was fun to listen to your slam a daedric dart into his bs “retrospective” However.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Thanks I've actually been working on something new for Oblivion because I love that game to death, I hope you stay tuned for that bud.

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@theprometheusprimeshow nice ironically oblivion is my least favorite game in the series… but it’s still elder scrolls so still a good game but nothing beats morrowind and daggerfall for me personally.

[@TheVioletBunny]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmaZf3iVq5t0iq8 prob will get deleted but I watched this not knowing who this guy was just seeing review videos. You can detect in his voice without even seeing him something is just not quite right… and I think it may be why he perceives games in a certain way. I’m not a fan of this “lolcow” crap I think it’s mean nor do I intend to mock anyone with any disability be it physical or mental or social, however it may be an explanation for his actions. Thus making me sympathize with him even though I couldn’t disagree more with everything he said in that morrowind video about my favorite game of all time.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@TheVioletBunny I feel that honestly, I only played morrowind a year ago and I'm hooked.

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@theprometheusprimeshow check out daggerfall using daggerfall unity. I started with daggerfall but unity makes the game much more fluid and takes away all of the issues it had back in the day. Between oblivion and Skyrim I prefer Skyrim as I think it did ambience / atmosphere and world building better on top of a more interesting world. Oblivion is even more disappointing when you know the world of cyrodiil is based on a retcon I much would have preferred that interesting jungle landscape vs the trend hoping of generic lord of the rings fantasy troupes after morrowinds extremely alien and unique world. Once again oblivion is still a solid game after all it’s elder scrolls but never understood how people can find it more interesting than morrowind.

[@jaspieer2138]

he has shit opinions on dark souls too lmao

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I'll get to that video too don't worry.

[@mitcherny6965]

I have no problem with running fatigue combat. It feels more realistic and adds tension. How do you expect to have been running for "several kilometers" and then take out your sword and fight full strength on the spot? Impossible.

[@blinkerz4676]

Indeed. For immersion, lets walk at snail pace everywhere so we can spend hours walking around a game from 2002.

[@mitcherny6965]

@@blinkerz4676Indeed. I do appreciate it's such an unbearable effort to hit the "rest" button to restore fatigue before engaging in a fight, or be extra careful when running to not get attacked while with zero fatigue. That takes a rocket science masters degree, I know.

[@infamouspotato2028]

this has same vibe as how halo fans argue that sprinting was a mistake

[@Randleray]

@@blinkerz4676 So in terms of colours and combat initself realism is a valid point, but as soon as fatigue comes into play, realism is immersionbreaking snail pace walking... The arguments some people make between Skyrim and Morrowind are simply incredible mind bending...

[@blinkerz4676]

@@Randleray I just want a game where Im not fcking around wasting time doing jckshit for hours on end, whats the different between that and a heroine user?

[@brandonkruse6412]

I’m late on this video but I think his criticism of the coloration was somewhat fair. There were better looking and more color-rich games on the Xbox - Fable for example. It’s not necessarily a limitation for the hardware as much as it was a deliberate design choice. This isn’t exclusive to Morrowind either. Most original Xbox games were designed with “gritty” and desaturated visuals.

[@MrJemoederopeenstokj]

Imagine getting excited over empty forests that mostly serve as filler. Sure Skyrim is pretty but the world building is boring af. Maybe it was just me but I found 0 incentives to explore the far corners

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I think these days Bethesda has the impression that more content means more Quality. Which isn't necessarily true. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel it means a lot.

[@MrJemoederopeenstokj]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Yes they are definitely choosing padding over actual integrity, and it works since people keep buying Skyrim. It's baffling tbh. And thank you for bringing this clownery to my attention, that was a hearthy laugh for sure. The graphical complaints were my fav part.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@MrJemoederopeenstokj thanks I appreciate it there's no shortage of bad videos online. Thanks for watching

[@TheVioletBunny]

Not making fun of him or anything but is acerthorn on the spectrum ? I’m getting very on the spectrum vibes.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

So yes he has something going on but I've made it a point not to bring that up because his mental stuff is besides the point. At the end of the day I'm countering the arguments that are being presented; he made it worse when he falsely dmca'd my buds. I try to keep that separated from channel but if you're interested in the drama I go on about it on my Twitter the link is in the description. Honestly thanks for watching and giving your support.

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@theprometheusprimeshow technically autism is a social disorder and not mental one. My sister is autistic btw. So not making fun I could just detect there may be a reason for some of the way he is viewing aspects of the games due to a different way of seeing things socially. It wasn’t about drama or making fun just an observation.

[@AL-nv4gk]

@@TheVioletBunny Cleary was the opposite saying so just to try and cover your tracks, trying to invalidate Acethorns opinion because you think he may be on the spectrum? What did he say that you disagree with though, that you may be able to disprove? Nah just get on here and say he's on the spectrum dont listen!! what a clown and you thought you were slinking away unnoticed found you out 2 easy boy.

[@thousandpagesofmadness]

Oblivion was a mistake

[@knightofnightside]

just finished the main story and am at the 'trials of the skaal' quests before i gave up upon the game i kinda get the appeal of the game but tbh, most people should put down their rose tinted glasses for once. while the game requires a bit more thought and an overall methodical approach, it is extremely annoying in so many aspects. movement speed is a joke, balance doesn't exist, dialogue (less cringe than later titles but still bad), soundtrack is basically repeating the same 3 short tracks... Exploring in this game feels more rewarding i give it that and for its time it was probably very interesting to see a huge and alien world but that magic wears off quickly with literally everything else the game offers... also f** the damn cliffracers every few meters

[@jdamsel8212]

movement speed increases, balance is player controlled in an rpg as open ended as morrowind. other two are subjective but I like both, evidently many other people did since skyrim rips morrowinds theme. Also cliffracers become a non-issue as you level.

[@thefranken-thing]

Every time someone complains about movement speed, I tell them the same thing: you are too encumbered. There is no need to be encumbered more than 25-50% of your maximum carrying capacity unless you are looting a dungeon or taking items to the shop to sell. If you follow this advice and your speed is above 50, you will move about as fast as Oblivion and Skyrim. Drinking potions of restore fatigue will also help. If you really want to go fast Ricky Bobby style, you can drink skooma, or fortify speed potions. You can also use spells to fortify speed and strength to move faster. There is even an easily obtainable pair of boots that fortifies speed by 200 points at the price of blindness which can be resisted or cured with magic. There is a learning curve to this game. It took me a few years of playing to figure this stuff out because I was a kid. As an adult, I just carefully read everything the NPCs tell me and the game mechanics are explained very well.

[@kidblanco924]

This video mad cringy.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Acerthorn tends to be that way; yeah.

[@Minato-cw3ce]

So you’re not allowed to dislike a game😂 these morrowind fanboys are insane😂

[@TheRealAbraxas]

They can’t accept that anyone would have a valid reason to like another Elder Scrolls game more than Morrowind. The Morrowind community is so deranged, they lurk in the comments on every Elder Scrolls video with such snarky attitudes.

[@Minato-cw3ce]

@@TheRealAbraxas fax 😂

[@TheTimoprimo]

@@Minato-cw3ce You do know that Acerthorn sued people unjustly, filed false DMCAs, and committed federal perjury numerous times.

[@Outcastic]

so criticizing a game is cool, but criticizing a video is where we draw the line?

[@TheTimoprimo]

@@Outcastic and like I said, the guy behind the targeted video is a pOS.

[@BruceWayne-fj9bm]

You’re obsessed.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

So are you when it comes to the joker. 🤣

[@BruceWayne-fj9bm]

@Acerthorn The True Acerthorn I don’t even know who that is.

[@BruceWayne-fj9bm]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Well it’s not my fault he always escapes jail.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

@@BruceWayne-fj9bm yes it is; because you won't kill the joker. 🤣

[@BruceWayne-fj9bm]

@@theprometheusprimeshow I’ll let the courts decide that 😵‍💫

[@AL-nv4gk]

Not allowed to dislike morrowind noe huh wierd, why was this video even mafe if you don't mind the question? Just couldn't stand that someone thinks Morrowind is trash why? live and let live and all. speaks to the fact you know this game sucks because you were so compelled to make this video with zero reasons for so.

[@TheTimoprimo]

Nothing to do with disliking or liking a game. Acerthorn is an actual piece of work.

[@Outcastic]

the double standards in this comment section are unreal.

[@Randleray]

@@Outcastic Lots of absolute blind Acerthorn simps... makes you wonder how many ignorant creeps are there really in the fanbase...

[@TheseNUTZ588]

I guess we cant dislike a game no more cuz the fanboys says so 😂😂

[@TheTimoprimo]

Acerthorn files false lawsuits, so his opinions mean nothing.

[@TheseNUTZ588]

@@TheTimoprimo when

[@Helliosis]

@@TheseNUTZ588 Here is a video by Redski where he goes over almost every Acerthorn Lawsuit since 2010: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHe1iYJ-esl9oZo

[@Randleray]

If you dislike a game, because you just refuse to play by its mechanics, than yes, you cannot dislike it. Instead you are branded as a dumbass by the fanboys and rightfully so :)

[@TheseNUTZ588]

@@Randleray how am I dumbass because I don't like the game mechanics and how is played you sound retarded lil bro

[@Acerthorn]

Hello. Acerthorn here. 2:24 - 2:29 *"You had to have known the title alone would have gotten you some backlash."* Of course. Then again, if I had named the video "Why Morrowind is the best game ever made," that would have also gotten me some backlash. The question is not whether I would have gotten backlash, but rather, what group of people I was going to get backlash from, and more importantly, whether I even give a shit if those people like me or not. The people who are going to give me backlash over the video's title are ... the people who have such an overly-fanatical devotion to this game that anything short of calling it literally perfect will be seen by them as a personal attack on them. And I don't really give a fuck what those people think. 2:29 - 2:37 Liar. I'm going to get shat on by at least one group of people no matter what. 2:51 Oh my god! This bullshit again?! Let me guess: The reason you want people to remember this fact for "later on" is because you're going to argue that, unless I finished the game (either any% or 100%), then I don't have the right to call it a retrospective. Is that it? I've done this song and dance so ... sooooo many times before! Hey Prometheus, if you're going to obsess over my use of words, and use my supposed misuse of words as a primary factor in your rebuttal arguments, then maybe you should, as preperation for this video, LOOK THE WORDS UP IN THE DICTIOANRY before you start criticizing my use of the words! The word "retrospective," as a noun, is defined in one of two ways: (1) "an art exhibit showing an entire phase or representative examples of an artist's lifework," and (2) "any exhibition or series of showings or performances, as of musical works or motion pictures, representing the work of an artist or performer over all or a major part of a career" Source: www.dictionary.com/browse/retrospective As you can see, the definition doesn't say anything about completion or thoroughness requirements. A retrospective _can_ include an "entire phase," or it could merely include "representative examples." The latter type purports on its face to allow for incomplete compilations. So no, I am not committing false advertising by calling my video a retrospective. You are merely attempting to insert your own, arbitrary definition of the term and then hold me to that term in order to say that my title is misleading. So you know what? I was willing to give your video a chance. I was going to engage with you. But now I see that all you're planning on doing is just repeating the same, tired-old bullshit arguments I've already dealt with countless times before. So if you want me to engage with the rest of this video, I want you to do one of two things. I'll give you the choice of which one you do. You can either ... (A) Assure me that the entirety of your 52 minute video (and I mean literally all of it) is comprised exclusively of new and original arguments and rebuttals, and that you do not, even once, repeat a criticism I have already addressed. (B) Give me timestamps telling me the beginning and end of your original arguments, so I can watch only those portions of the arguments and skip over the portions where you repeat criticisms I've made in the past. Remember that I want both the beginning timestamp and the ending timestamp. With the ending timestamp, I'll know that your original criticisms are over and that you're about to make a repeat criticism, so I'll know to skip that and move on to the next beginning timestamp. You posted the link to this video in the comment section of one of my videos (I think it was my Dark Souls Retrospective, but I can't remember exactly), so clearly, you wanted me to see this video. Unless you want all your hard work to go to waste, then you'd best do one of the above two options.

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Well I really didn't expect you to respond to me but cool. Allow me to introduce myself I'm prometheus prime and I disagreed with your video enough to make a response. I'm relatively new to this youtube thing but that video was lots of fun to make. I take a few lighthearted jabs your way and I noticed you've become more objective as time went on. I know that was your first review but everything is subject to criticism. No matter how old. You got me with the textbook definition of "Retrospective;" just like how Feminists love to cite the textbook definition of "Feminism" when you criticize them. 🤣 I'm just Joshing. Look The thing is I can't tell if the arguments I made in my video have already been addressed in your comments. I made my video the second I saw yours on Morrowind. I haven't read every response you made to people. You have a ton of comments that would be insane. I did respond to a few that disagreed with you and gave them my video as a way to vent. I can't promise you that my video touched new ground. I can only say that I tried to make it entertaining and informative. You don't have to watch it if you don't want to. It would be alright if you did; I could use the extra hour of watch time. 🤣 And maybe I missed something and made bad criticisms myself. I'm not going to put timestamps up you'll just have to watch it if you are curious about it. I'm also open to criticism; it could help me get better at this youtube response thing. It's your call dude all my hardworking won't go to waste because I got the experience from doing that and learned alot; i also had lots of fun. I even got a few subs from it; I don't really lose anything if you choose to ignore me. However since we are in contact now I should give you fair warning and tell you that Fallout New Vegas "Retrospective" is a sitting duck hint, hint. 🤣 Look I'm chill man do whatever you like don't forget to check out my coverage of Activision Blizzard's sexual assault Allegations I just made it fresh out the oven. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h52wiIaibM6VoM0

[@Acerthorn]

​@@theprometheusprimeshow *"I can't tell if the arguments I made in my video have already been addressed in your comments."* Didn't you say, in this video, that you like to read the comments section? For that matter, take a look at this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3WuhKtqpM5gqJI Fairly early in the video (though I don't remember exactly when; it was in the first 30 minutes though), I criticize my opponent because he, by his own admission, didn't give a fuck how many tired old arguments he was simply retreading without even attempting to bring anything new to the table. Just like with you, he admitted to this in his own comment, and I was even able to show that comment to him. So I'm sorry, but you are NOT getting off to the best of starts if you want to engage with me!

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

I did say that I was referring to Lorerunner, Jim Sterling and other reviewers I even showed their videos in mine. to be honest I only started reading your comments after I made my video. I can see why you think otherwise but I can assure you that the criticisms I have made have come from my own experiences with the game. Scouts honor. Except the section with vivec I had to borrow footage. Vivec was too hard for me to beat without cheating. Their videos are linked in the description if you are interested. I don't know who this other person is and I don't understand your personal beef but I'm a different person. As I said you can do whatever you like; at least I know you are watching my video.

[@Acerthorn]

@@theprometheusprimeshow Would you like to do a collab stream with me some time, similar to the one I did with Montyspa? We could have a back and forth and a genuine meeting of the minds. You've already said your piece about Morrowind. So when we do the collab stream, how about we make it about Fallout New Vegas, since you mentioned that was on your to-do list?

[@theprometheusprimeshow]

Honestly that would be cool I'm just learning KZbin but that could be fun.