Acheron's BEST Support! Jiaoqiu Guide | Best Relics, Best Build, Teams

[@guobacertified]

Any Guobqiu Pullers?!?!?! (Feixiao is BEHIND YOU) Remember you are allowed to pull whatever you want - and as I've put up many times in the video - consult other takes / calcs / showcases / your own trial tests before pulling a unit :)

[@flowerfantasy3889]

d1 jq mains rise

[@keitohikaru7638]

Me 🎉

[@squallleonheart4803]

sadly I will skip him for feixiao eos1 since I have robin haha.

[@duck_smuggler]

nvm js got to the end

[@erwintonel9030]

Good for acheron is all i needed to hear.

[@seang7578]

Guoba, how could you forget to mention Jiaoqiu’s ability to slip the enemy a laxative for a massive debuff? It’s so integral to his kit 😭

[@GoodolKev]

He needs moze for it to work

[@izzme5204]

​@@GoodolKevjust imagine a passive like the one from the event if you pair jiaoqiu with moze😂

[@NOBINHO_]

Diarrhoea shockwave incoming

[@rylenstuffsv2]

​@@NOBINHO_ I cackled after seeing the ridiculous debuff name xD

[@likyardianto3614]

poor skott

[@bryans.1160]

You are healthier than the enemy if they are all dead, in that sense Jiaoqiu is incredible at being a healer

[@shipdemon6701]

As someone with no silver wolf, this is an absolute win 😭

[@skennylegend1835]

As someone with a SW, this is still an absolute win! Hope you get SW in her rerun 🙏🏼

[@Sampoforeverrrr]

as someone with a silverwolf, she can finally go to ratio's hypercarry team! jiaoqiu make my e2s1 acheron go >>>>>>>

[@jujiemandane9610]

as someone with an e1 sw, im winning real hard aswell

[@anapple6912]

@@jujiemandane9610 what does e1 sw provide? double the debuffs (or bugs)?

[@jujiemandane9610]

@@anapple6912 regens up to 35 energy on ult for every debuff the enemy has, max 5 debuffs with the right build, sw can get 1 turn ult jiaoqiu ult + sw skill is already 5 debuffs, and thats some wonderful synergy right there

[@Bulbz-pk4fv]

crazy how they had us thinking he'd be a healer in both our "dreams" and lore lol

[@Johnin3D_]

They def over emphasized him being a healer. His voice lines indicate a cover-up or a misdirection.

[@christopher4227]

His healing got removed he was like that at first. But he got nerf

[@edwardmolina2464]

Honestly I didn't look at his kit past the first "dreams" because I already decided to pull based on him being a healer so I was confused watching this video...I still think he looks like a great character but I already have Pela and SW so I'll skip him now...hopefully they eventually release a nihility character with some healing capabilities so I can use a harmony character with Acheron. Ps. E2 acheron havers living right now.

[@lily-_-]

​​@@edwardmolina2464Friend I recommend looking into where/how closely you look at dreams because he was never a healer in any dream. The closest he got was being a nihility with some healing. But never abundance.

[@Luk850]

His healing was always so awful the beta testers said to mostly ignore it, people just decided to over focus on it because they wanted to remove there sustain.

[@zaxtonhong3958]

Our """""""""""""Healer""""""""""""" from the Yaoqing

[@NoHandsJames]

I still miss the version of his kit with healing. It felt so fitting to the character

[@ena7492]

@@NoHandsJames i think him having no healing capabilities is equally fitting and funnier though since he got mad anytime someone called him a chef instead of healer.

[@NorthernWind26]

Cry a goddamn river

[@theteamxxx3142]

@@NoHandsJames but there was never a part of his kit that healed lol that were early leaks unconfirmed

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

Plus he pretty much says in the xianzhou quest "I'm a healer but..." (Not exact words but ykwim) ​@@ena7492

[@poodleprince]

I love how he's usable on all the endgame modes 🏃 Waaaaaa as a f2p my argenti, serval, even ratio appreciates him a lot 😭😭😭 gosh i love all rounder units, PF with black swan goes crazy too

[@JohnSmithino]

Thank you for all damage calculation. I was so hesitant to pull him since a lot of ppl said its better to just get Archeron E2 with Sparkle/Pela.

[@lazarious5424]

He's the reason black swans is programed the way she is not giving ult stacks on enemies turns kinda funny

[@0v_x0]

I remember hearing from beta testing that there was a bug where Black Swan arcana would give Acheron a stack every time it applied to a new enemy on the field, or bounced when an enemy died

[@F4keOfficial]

21:35 That's all I needed to hear 🥳

[@babooteee]

FINALLY I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS

[@ttfcrith22]

As a f2p, hitting 120% eff hit rate on BS was already a tall task. lol

[@TheeGull0213]

Pela can give 10% if you are planning to run him with her. Also, Eyes of Prey can give 40% and his trace has 28%. EHR body has 43% i think so you only need 19% or 29% without Pela.

[@bryansantos317]

I know what you mean, i was struggling using only eyes of prey until i got lucky on the light cone banner and got BS sig LC, it made it so much easier to build her and I could even replace her EHR body with an attack body. Also rng screwed me over when it came to her Planar ornaments

[@hanabisakura1266]

Imagine being a f2p in hoyo games in this day and age.

[@MonoGeoEnjoyer]

@@hanabisakura1266 This comes as self entitled and idiotic. People come from different economic backgrounds and prizes ingame are homogenzed for all the globe, 5 euros in europe may mean nothing for a welkin and a fortune for other countries. Have some awareness man.

[@xenvj]

I'm not an F2P, just a monthly pass spender but considering I don't even have BS' sig or great EHR LCs, idt the 120% is that big of a deal. I have 6 EHR rolls on her with the Pan-Cosmic set and an S2 Eyes of the Prey. She's at 120%+ EHR. I just built my Jiaoqiu without prefarming and gave him my SW's set. 5 EHR rolls and S5 Tutorial. He's missing some of his traces but he's at 133% EHR. The Tutorial LC does help tremendously but if I had better relic RNG, the 120% wouldn't be so difficult. I think people are just overestimating it and imo, 120%+ EHR isn't an issue for end game stats

[@twistedofficial]

One thing worth considering if you're somewhat lacking with gems; It's mentioned how despite not always being a huge damage increase over the 4 star options, he has ease of use and uptime to beat them out, only getting a bigger difference in strength through E's and S's which throw the 4 star options out of the equation entirely.. BUT Remember that you might not always want that constant uptime free damage playstyle. I often forget how fun it can be to min max 4 star options and make them as useful and strong as they can be, and though it requires more "skill" or at least consideration, it can be very rewarding and ultimately save you a lot of resources which then go into your DPS, leading to overall way better DPS. Obviously go for who you like, and do what feels right for you, but consider what you enjoy with the combat. I've often ended up regretting spending so much money on higher eidolons and signatures because in the long run it just dilutes the need to actually play the game. Sure we're getting more challenging content which you want to clear, but doing this doesn't require spending at all, just some structured budgeting with your farming and spending of gems. I want to tune into that playstyle going forward, only spending to get the base copy of characters from now on. I whaled for e6s1 Acheron in a sort of heat of the moment thing, blowing my months budget and putting myself in debt (I know it's retarded) and I know this isn't uncommon in the gacha sphere. Not only did the irl cost affect me a lot but in game she's been less fun to play than on my free to play alt after a while. It's fun to see big numbers and potential playstyles, but it quickly makes playing other characters without whale investment feel underwhelming in comparison and cheapens the gaming experience. I know this is obvious to a lot of you, but I just want to throw it out for those it applies to. Also we're getting a sick new DPS soon!

[@Lemonzify]

I tested him multiple times and he doesn’t make a big upgrade vs pela. I’m just gonna go ahead and pull Robin and start building my fua teams. Already got dot, hyper carry and break.

[@devika2545]

​@Lemonzify He doesn't replace Pela, though? He is a great guinaifen replacement though.

[@ZytenEspada]

DoTcheron honestly got even stronger so I'm happy. JQ is the fastest stack generator in the game for Acheron so the already good DoTcheron comp gets EVEN better. Fastest stacking team in the game for E0.

[@TaviiCatniss]

OKAY we both cooking my plan Is acheron JQ Blackswan Huohuo XD

[@catraaa5261]

Sorry to ask, but what do you think could be better? Jiaoqiu or Acheron signature LC? I haven't looked into Jiaoqiu's kit yet...

[@YouryCh.]

​For overall damage, Jiaoqiu LC @@catraaa5261

[@Interea524]

@@catraaa5261 Definitely Jiaoqiu, Acheron with GNSW S5 isnt that big of a difference compared to Acheron with sig LC, only is when you get another ultimate off with it but the same thing can be said with Jiaoqiu and not to mention he helps Acheron alot in Pure Fiction which makes it way better than Acheron's sig LC

[@catraaa5261]

@@Interea524 Thanks a bunch :)

[@abdulwaduod11]

For E0 Acheron you pick Acheron + Jiaoqiu + silver wolf + Gallagher for single target enemy Or you pick Acheron + jiaoqiu + Pela + Gallagher for multi target enemy

[@Kagetora-]

Yeah pretty much.

[@hershyijustshatmyself9253]

Ye, but I'm more inclined to run JQ + SW since Acheron wants ST DMG more than AoE at this point (and Pela already demonstrated that one AoE character is enough for her). Makes her more versatile in most contents, except PF where Pela beats her all day. That, and I have a 172 SPD SW, so that's gonna be fun :joy:

[@eh1165]

Okay but what about Black Swan? I have both her SW and Pela built and idk when to use who, especially now that I want to pull Jiaoqiu too

[@B_Kaizo]

​@@eh1165 wait for kafka's rerun and there you have a dot team for your secondary team

[@B_Kaizo]

​@@eh1165also JQ + Pela for almost everything and JQ + SW for that one gamemode where you only fight bosses, I forgot it's name

[@ABC-yj6cy]

JQ traces: EHR, Fire Dmge, Spd Feixiao traces: Defense 😂

[@literallyjiaoqiu]

no cuz they nerfed her base spd, her trace spd and changed her action forward skill 💀 thats evil

[@mroyyanalfatah3560]

haha calm down bro, surely they will change it (?)

[@saturna1576]

@@mroyyanalfatah3560 Sadly not because V3 are final changes to the kit itself

[@LittleMissZackyVee]

@@saturna1576 theres 5 versions of beta

[@DAHN9000]

@@saturna1576 didnt jiaoqiu go up to V5? It was a pretty big change too (6 stacks max per ult)

[@Visionsxhz]

When the skill and LC descriptions gets longer and longer... 😮

[@abdulwahabsl-lr5wp]

its genshin all over again 😞

[@Tururu134]

Eh, it's just numbers. If you remove all the digits it's actually just a bunch of "Ashen Roast", "Vulnerability", "Stacks"

[@hellonyancat666]

Don’t have Acheron nor Kafka but excited to get him. Always wanted male amping support and he’s cool

[@johnreydelatorre3450]

I panicked and thought today was his release day…

[@williamsl655]

lol

[@9Tailsfan]

Not until August 21, 2024.

[@anapple6912]

@@9Tailsfan too long 😓😓

[@MrFirecam]

A p2w product made you panick ?

[@k1ks422]

​@@MrFirecam Your useless opinion made you comment?

[@meriwidget3474]

Thanks! I better get him, I've already prefarmed for him lol. But I love doing Sim Universe stuff and I'm excited to try him there with my Acheron team.

[@Jay_Shawn_Green]

Jiaoqiu situation compared to Guinaifen reminds me a lot of the early discussions with Black Swan vs Sampo E4 onwards, lmao. But what the hell is this dude? It increases damage a lot! And effortlessly too if you know what you're doing. Also, huge props for the Meme Comparison made me chuckle a lot.

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

I find it extremely funny that he has the same en VA as kazuha because I remember the exact same thing happening with kazuha wayy back in genshin 1.6, with people saying he's not much better than sucrose pre release. Fast forward and look how long he's stayed in the meta. Literally watching all this jiaoqiu doomposting has been like watching history repeat itself

[@Ex.st_nce]

Catch me doing a Hook, Guin, Jiao , Sustain Burn TEAM It's shit but I like setting things on fire.

[@Radiant450]

@@curryfishheadenjoyerlmao true, but hey we all know meta in HSR will NOT last like 3+ years, a unit stays meta for like a year at best here, heck even the titan that is RM is now falling behind Robin outside of Break teams. However yeah JQ was clowned on too hard, just because people saw that he was “nerfed” in every beta, but that didn’t mean he was doomed because his base kit still works and does its job.

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

@@Radiant450 oh yea I meant more like look how good kazuha ended up being. I don't think jiaoqiu will be top meta when he drops considering the harmony trio exists but I'm sure he will see more use than people are giving him credit for. At any rate he's definitely not the useless trash that the doomposters made him out to be

[@Radiant450]

@@curryfishheadenjoyer I don’t think he will be better than RM or Robin but his supportive capabilities (especially when paired with his S1) are REALLY good, the vuln on demand is something not many units have access to right now, mostly a lot of CDmg, atk%, dmg%, def down and res down, vuln is kinda rare to come by which makes him already have access to a damage boost that is not only rare but one of the strongest.

[@RobertTaylorFan16]

As someone who doesn't really play these "difficult content" modes maybe I don't appreciate this video as much as most of your audience, but I still respect how much detail you've put into this!

[@israelgomez7520]

Ive wanted him since his basic description like a year ago haha and will say im very much pleased with him in every aspect!

[@gereer]

it hurts me but i have to replace my black swan for jiaoqiu and steal her lightcone, but acheron jiaoqiu silverwolf sounds so comfortable for every content im definitely pulling

[@zaxtonhong3958]

Why not acheron jiaoqiu black swan?

[@willyboi1105]

​@@zaxtonhong3958 his Swan and Jiaoqiu are probably sharing lightcones so one of them will suffer with less EHR.

[@Kindi001]

wait dont have eyes of prey or Tutorial mission? thats rough

[@Shadessmh]

Or just don't waste your jades for a slight upgrade when you can get sparkle or feixiao next patch.

[@XMS1212X]

@@Shadessmhagree this patch pair of banners were an easy skip for me to save jades in at 20k now

[@RodrigoRO_29_08]

I was wating for this video since i saw him months ago, now i can finally prefarm properly.

[@sammy5480]

Also worth noting : Jiaoqiu has good synergy with Guinaifen. For starters, they are both Fire units dealing decent Toughness damage : pretty useful for targeting a specific weakness. Moreover, Guinaifen : _ increases Jiaoqiu's DoT with her E2. _ detonates Jiaoqiu's DoT (in AoE). _ reduces Jiaoqiu's EHR needs to 138%, even with his signature LC. _ her Firekiss will stack up twice as fast with Ashen Roast.

[@yankeng2896]

not quite since they both stacks vulnerability which is diminishing return

[@lukefouche8724]

​@@yankeng2896I think OP means that for a non black swan/kafka DOT team it's good synergy. Pearls could also be useful on Guinaifen to help add def shred. And there's harmonies like Ruan mei/Robjn, to be used with the pair. It's not META but it's a fun synergy

[@Sable813]

​@@yankeng2896 not for vulnerability, there is not such thing as diminishing returns. The more you have the better, like def shred.

[@fatesaintidv603]

​@@yankeng2896vulnerability, like def shred, has no diminishing return

[@wetnoodlex]

Definitely a good unit for niche non-META teams, but his best team will always be Acheron, where he won't be much of an upgrade.

[@auro8236]

If I get e2 I’m gonna make the air fryer team. Kafka, Black Swan, and Jiaoqiu with huo huo as healer. Black Swan and Jiaoqiu supply the wind and fire while Kafka powers it. I will own an air fryer. I will be cool.

[@karakkyo5902]

underrated dream, go for it!! you can become an air fryer!

[@yumeng4686]

I have never seen anyone refer to premium DOT as an airfryer... I love it hdksjsj keep cooking

[@cheyanne2001]

Yes, get the high quality air fryer!!!

[@miorioff]

But it's E2... For a support and only for one single team, which is DoT. I'm almost sure they will make a DoT oriented support in the future, and it's not this guy I'd rather get E2 RM/Sparkle/Robin, since they can be used everywhere

[@guobacertified]

air fryer i love the name

[@SUPERsourbum]

i remember seeing somewhere that jiaoqiu’s vulnerability debuff even though percent wise, pelas debuff is bigger, vulnerability scales better which causes his dmg amp to be better than hers (not counting lc)

[@literallyjiaoqiu]

both using res s5, pela debuff is a 1.43 multiplier, while jiaoqius is 1.64, so a pretty decent upgrade (not counting ult dmg btw)

[@lelegardl9473]

@@literallyjiaoqiu how did you get these values? Jiao with Pearls is 1.476 multiplier Also e6 Pela has 1.45 multiplier

[@0v_x0]

​@@lelegardl9473I'm guessing that's with S1. He also has much better uptime

[@giogio6965]

Might pull him on his rerun. My Dotcheron performs well, and Feixiao will be my first Limited Hunt & Wind DPS, hence my priorities. Still, I am tempted because I want a premium team for my E0 S1 Acheron.

[@literallyjiaoqiu]

feixiao is super cool, i wish you luck! and dont worry, new characters usually get their reruns sooner so youll be able to get jiaoqiu for your acheron in a few patches

[@giogio6965]

@@literallyjiaoqiu I wish you luck, as well! HSR doing back-to-back banger banners can be quite the problem, and I am still torn about Feixiao and Jiaoqiu😅

[@arc8218]

Same my dotcheron already pretty solid Waiting sparkle rerun For boothill and danheng IL Or pulling feix 😅😂

[@yeahokayokay]

If no one had known about his beta, the conversation about Jiaoqui would be much different (he's quite good, belongs in the upper tier of harmony/nihility supports). I wish people could talk about what he is rather than the inflated beta version that doesn't exist.

[@Tyrag0n_Art]

And I feel like people are ignoring the fact that if healed enough Acheron's E2 would be USELESS, given that she could run a perfect 1 harmony, 2 nihility team at E0, and I don't believe Hoyo would want that

[@hazekaze]

I just think to myself that no one were supposed to know all these leaks and keep doomposting about it, sine it’s an unofficial leak. Hoyo promised nothing except for a weird wording of “healer”. Our expectations killed off the fun and interests.

[@joaosantos-uj9uw]

@@Tyrag0n_ArtI mean yeah that’s exactly what everyone was hoping for. Especially given how broken Firefly has turned out to be and she’s getting lingsha

[@gem_ola6642]

​@@joaosantos-uj9uwnah, pulling lingsha when we have Gallagher is not it

[@kokusei3948]

​@@joaosantos-uj9uw gallagher is arguably the most broken 4* right now and replacing him with lingsha is a massive waste. No one needs lingsha.

[@lowki2127]

Great video, I was really split before on if I should summon on Jiaoqiu or save for Lingsha. But summoning for Jiaoqiu looks to be the best option on my account

[@abdulwahabsl-lr5wp]

i think u can manage to get both if lingsha is in the second half

[@lowki2127]

@@abdulwahabsl-lr5wp I can 100% get Lingsha as I’m on pity right now

[@goodpuppii]

Thanks, as always. I kind of wanted to pull for him, because Acheron is my favorite. Then I really liked his character in the story. So I pulled for him on the first day and got him right away!

[@smexxxxy]

I usually use my DoT comp on auto and I think he's better than Robin in this regard. It will also be fun to see the mobs blow up as soon as they take a turn in PF thanks to BS and JQ. Anyways, great guide.

[@yallqaeda1349]

Also worth noting for Resolution, as far as I can tell attacking an enemy again while the LC's debuff is already on the target does not trigger a tick on Acheron's ult counter - you have to wait until the debuff drops off and then reapply it for it to give her an ult point. This has been a mildly annoying aspect of basic attacking with Pela in my Acheron team.

[@yumeng4686]

Oh thank god for 28% EHR, this means I can actually equip Kalpagni to amp his speed up more and not sacrifice the EHR to ATK conversion Yes I could technically just use Vonwacq but I'd really rather match my Pela with speed. It's kinda stupid to me that he's a debuffer and his base speed is below 100. I'd forgive this if they hadn't capped his ult at 6 stacks lol

[@juliamalyugina3546]

Pulled him for husbando factor, and wasn’t sure on what team should I use him ( sadly I don’t have Acheron). Thanks for great video, now I’ll put him with Argenti or Ratio ❤

[@interneter6299]

Hi Gouqiu!

[@guobacertified]

hello!

[@TamaChien]

Did anyone translate this to English too? What a shocker of an answer

[@GamerX78902]

Aye definitely going to help my E0S1 Acheron team very nicely it looks like looks like saving the guaranteed pull for him might be the move 😁

[@andysabur4966]

"He's sp positive" Jiao is going into my welt slot, so he could skill all day and would prolly still be an upgrade lol

[@moonmarf7986]

I’m happy that the crux fleet duo is strong in hsr too 💪

[@MyLivingLegacy]

Reading through some of the threads in these comments is just BAFFLING to me, it's like people wholeheatrily believe he is BAD, and at this stage, no numbers, video clears or stats will change their mind. The community is so bias against this character and it's been a while since I've seen people downplay a unit that makes one of the BEST DPS in the entire game, BETTER, and more comfortable to play and in more modes. Not every unit can fit every dps or team, isn't a support that enables the best of the best to be ... better, a good thing to those that like Acheron and want to run her longer and longer into each meta? For some that have every other possible option, yeah, he might only be a slight upgrade, but as somebody with s5 sweaty Pela, SW and e0s1 Acheron, I cannot wait for him! Ease of use and comfortability is a huge factor to some people. People are so negative lol

[@taesshi]

As someone who was barely able to get Acheron to E0S1 after 219 pulls, I was struggling to get her to perform better than Jingyuan on Pure Fiction. Jiaoqiu is an absolute win. Sadly, it's always gonna be like this for new characters. People did the same for Robin.

[@oneprez]

He's not necessarily bad he just could've been a lot BETTER.

[@Kspice9000]

​@@oneprezmeh. For e0 acherons, he's a huge improvement. For e2s1 acherons with sparkle, not really worth investing. I'm more interested in a debuffer with healing or toughness dmg increase on too of shred. Don't care about them doing dot in any form.

[@Tururu134]

"Sweaty Pela" lmao

[@leecha3444]

4:22 is so easy to understand 😂 thanks for the razor language tip!

[@TaviiCatniss]

I typically pull E0S1 at most but one day want acheron at E2. I feel like JQ could be a great addition for now and when thay day comes

[@MuhammadTaufiqIsmail-xz2qe]

I'm so glad you mentioned he's a bait for DoT team. Here I am scratching my head wondering why my DoT team is fairly slower with him. Hopefully we'll get a dedicated DoT support that can replace RM

[@tysonvienneau1830]

I'd pull, but Yunli and Yanqing decided to agree for once and make me hit hard pity for once. I was at double digits of jades and I need to save my money

[@MrShadic140]

Double digits? So 10 jades? /J (Tho I do think you meant like four or five digits 1000 - 10000 jades)

[@tysonvienneau1830]

@@MrShadic140 36

[@kazukinowa]

Im more excited with using him in NON acheron teams, for example would be Robin Hypercarry in place of Pela cuz of his better damage increases and better uptime. Also as the amplifier for SUUUUPABREAK teams for my no sustain MoC and Apoc setups. Ratio carry is a no brainder tho, bigger amp and better uptime on all his debuffs

[@DrStunJosh]

Am I crazy for thinking even at E0S1 JQ is great for DoTs? Gwen’s burns are get blocked by resistences, but Ashen Roast applies regardless. Kafka+BS+JQ+Sustain seems pretty good on paper, particularly because RM can’t be everywhere at once AND we still don’t have a DoT focused Harmony or Sustain. So, JQ seems like a fair option to give dmg amp alongside BS’s def down for Kafka, while adding a third (or fourth) DoT to explode

[@gunnarschlichting9886]

Even if he really is worse, losing only a single cycle to free up Ruan Mei is pretty valuable.

[@DrStunJosh]

@@gunnarschlichting9886 True. RM can't be everyone, that's her one problem. Of course, eventually, this will become a moot point when an actually DoT Harmony (or Sustain, like Aventurine for FUA) drops.

[@someguy1ification]

So, in DoTa e6 Guin provides nearly the same damage amp as e0 Jaioqiu(30.4% vs 35%, and if you want to include his lightcone... It also goes quite well on Gui) but much higher personal damage (her multiplier is higher, and she can detonate both her own, and Black Swan's Epiphany. Not the base Arcana, only during the ult. Note that the higher dot multiplier also means that Kafka's detonations hit harder). He only gets ahead in DoTs in fights where Gui can't consistently keep her dots up. This is a fair amount, though. Burn immunes alone aren't really a good reason to pull for him, but notably in Pure Fiction the enemies are just dying and being replaced too quickly for Guinaifen to maintain her burn on them, while Jiaoqiu burns them on entry during his ult (which is most, if not all, of the time)

[@DrStunJosh]

@@someguy1ification for myself, I’m pulling his LC for BS (who I’ll get on her rerun). I don’t consider PF for anything (as I’m not worried), so I was thinking mainly for MoC or AS to have JQ on DoTs. Gwen is great and is among my favorite characters, but that fire/burn resist that some enemies have really hurts her efficiency

[@jyusatsu]

I just won Jiaoqiu and his LC so I'm here again watching your guide. Acheron goes brrr with him

[@NeuviletteBR]

Right? People in here commenting he is a hard pass because they already have x nihility unity for acheron don’t understand HOW FAST he generates stacks for acheron. I got him at lvl 60, no talent’s upgraded, and still my acheron is bursting twice as fast as before

[@SpicyJiaoJiao-e6n]

​@@NeuviletteBR ikr! I got his E1 and he's so DELICIOUS to use, damnnn

[@NeuviletteBR]

@@SpicyJiaoJiao-e6n i got him and his LC, wont go for e1 cause i want to try and get robin next patch. But even him at lvl 70 and with his tallent lvl 5 and burst lvl 3 he is already so absurdly good with my acheron. I just used him on pure fiction and i never had such an easy time in that mode. I also never got to use acheron in PF cause i haver her e2 and she just obliterates weak mobs in an burst, but then takes forever to get her burst in the next wave. Well, not anymore! My acheron is already dealing more than double damage the she was when i was using silver wolf

[@SpicyJiaoJiao-e6n]

@@NeuviletteBR well, lucky you to have Acheron e2!

[@NeuviletteBR]

@@SpicyJiaoJiao-e6n no, lucky me for getting 3 copies of her within 10 pulls, i swear hoyo never loved me this way in genshin. I plan on getting acheron LC when she reruns, but honestly she is doing easily 800k damage in a wave of 5 mobs, i dont think i need any more damage tbh

[@AlexN0704]

Also This is an advice for more prime prime players but If u have e2 acheron you want to run sparkle, if u run sparkle and shes also e2 she gets def ignore wich gets mlre valuable the less def shred the enemy has so if u were alr running sw or pela u were getting division value from thst eidolon but them but not with him

[@xHaidax]

Funfact i was running Jiaoqiu with Guinaifen for the longest time since, Ashen roast counts as Burn and can be applied together with burn. That makes 2 stacks of firekiss per enemy turn.

[@federicoaguirre1987]

I'm definitely getting him, he's really busted and not only for acheron teams, people are underestimating his capabilities.

[@_hector__]

Lol

[@peak407]

The people u said is the jiaqiuo main themselves

[@Gurenn83]

“He’s really busted” 😆😆😆 All aboard the hype train!

[@Taunt69]

midqiu only dots and acheron. for others - harmony much better

[@edimasv4581]

"Busted" y'all literally saying this for every character.

[@Nayl62]

Im using eagle just like pela, im ready for him ! Using Vonwacq with 147 speed, 188 EHR. He could be better but for now he's goated

[@riser7795]

JQ will be the unit that enables my Acheron to clear PF with higher score, especially dot PF. Acheron will finally be the most versatile unit viable in all 3 end game mode, MOC,AS and PF.

[@Friday-p13]

I was able to clear the last 2 PF's with acheron in auto battle. Now with JQ coming that will be making a lot easier now. E0S1 JQ, E0 Sparkle pls win the 50/50s 75/25 and come home.

[@seagl4ss]

@@Friday-p13i hear using robin in this team would be more effective than sparkle even for E0 acheron

[@Friday-p13]

@@seagl4ss oh I use Robin for PF yea. I just want to have sparkle

[@ZytenEspada]

@@riser7795 I just use DoTcheron. It's probably one of the best PF teams in the game.

[@Viccaro7]

I've been a Nihility main since 1.1, and while he may not be an upgrade to Ruan Mei for me in a DoT comp, she's pretty much permanently chained to Firefly for most runs in MoC/AS, so between Acheron and Kafka (if Firefly is on another side for MoC/AS) then he's still a solid option for my account.

[@hjc12]

So hes basically an upgraded guinaifen that isnt affected by enemy resistance and a much higher dmg multiplier

[@linah1998]

yes and no..Guinaifen is a sub dps, he's more like a mix of Guinaifen and Pela with his debuffing and secondary damage

[@skennylegend1835]

He's gold-tier guinaifen that provides debuffs every time an enemy does an action! It's busted

[@hjc12]

@@linah1998 its okay guys, i have built gui at c6. I dont really need the guy for acheron

[@yanadh]

@@hjc12 You can still decide when he comes out. I think they release him for harder content in the future that gui will be hard to use against.

[@lukefouche8724]

​@@hjc12She's strictly worse debuff application

[@joshsolders5543]

8:34 It is fair to point out that the HP and Def come almost naturally from leveling, so a few stray def or hp stats on your pieces will cover those stat requirements. If you want more bulk, that's fine, but you don't need to go for bulk if you don't want to, and probably want the damage increase for DoT specific teams.

[@ray_sskishu]

finally my meme team of Acheron & Boothill will finally be somewhat more viable with Jiaoqiu

[@guobacertified]

INSANE COOK?

[@ray_sskishu]

@guobacertified Boothill genuinely gives so much for Acheron's stacks, with his Skill taunting, his EBA breaking (applying bleed), and his ULT applying Physical Weakness and now with Jiaoqiu in the picture, Acheron gets her stacks faster whilst also amplifying both her AND Boothill's DMG truly the team of all time

[@Sampoforeverrrr]

i COULD try that...

[@dino_boy]

This game has the audacity to give me Jiaoqiu early pity (i was pulling for guinaifen's eidolons) so i have to watch this video now and build him. Great video btw

[@AndyCuzYeah354]

I was worried that I was making a mistake by skipping Yunli and going for Jiaoqiu. A lot of people make him out to be completely replaceable by Guinaifen or Pela cuz of the vulnerability. Glad I have concrete maths to remind me now 💪💪

[@mirilys]

Long term I want to E6 him over his next few reruns, as for now I'll be getting E0S0 because I also want Feixiao. Love fox man❤️

[@blasian1776]

He works decently as a replacement to Ruan Mei and Robin. Thing is with Robin + Huohuo you are gonna run into SP issues 9/10. Ruan Mei is better then Jiaoqiu, but she’s also staple for break teams. I wouldn’t recommend pulling Jiaoqiu for DoT specifically, but it’s not a bad option if you need your Ruan Mei for FF or Boothill or if the side your using Dot on is weak to Fire. Only problem, you can’t build him for Achreon and for Dot really. It’s either one or the other unless you wanna switch relics back and forth. I personally do think it’s overall better to build him as a support rather than Dot dps. Since support is universal while Dot is niche. But if your very invested in the idea of dot Jiaoqiu, then he’s decent.

[@ZytenEspada]

@@blasian1776 laughs in DoTcheron.

[@literallyjiaoqiu]

you can, both builds just require ehr (to apply stacks) and the next best thing is atk or fire dmg, the err can be used or not too. by getting ehr (which is what he needs) you apply the debuff more often AND you get more atk via his trace, making the same build useful in both dot and acheron (plus, prisoner works for both)

[@Desticy]

If you run into sp issues then you need to build your team differently

[@TsuchiGamer06]

So excited to get him. He's gonna be great for my Acheron but also for my Yunli and HOPEFULLY Feixiao

[@meowblaziken5634]

The amount of math quoba trying to portray how good JQ is immaculate, i wonder how those JQ doomposter gonna debate this

[@jc-cl5ff]

Still not worth for F2p/low spender if you already have the Acheron team well built, 3.0 will come in a few months and JQ will be sitting on the bench

[@jc-cl5ff]

Not saying he is bad, just saying its a premium choice for dolphins/whales, or people that dont have pela, silverwolf and pearls LC

[@aei__]

if player doesn't have acheron and/or black swan ig, but JQ still good as 5* Pela/5* Guinafen

[@thouartseraph]

@@jc-cl5ff yall act like getting 5 stars is the most insurmountable task ever.

[@rasxhu6643]

​@@jc-cl5ff still pulling for him tbh. He's gonna make PF so much easier for Acheron team than using Acheron + Pela + SW. Practically can replace SW for him SW is also single target while JQ is AOE so he's gonna be better in most cases even in MoC for acheron

[@spade_suit]

Will absolutely be pulling him. I don't have Silver Wolf, so my Acheron definitely needs him. Besides, I think he'll fit nicely with my Kafka and Black Swan when my Ruan Mei is occupied

[@thatriolaguy]

How much of a damage lost is Jiaoqiu in Kafka BS team, replacing RM? I think Im having a dilemma where I dont quite have a good buffer/debuffer for my Kafka team if RM is switched to a Super Break team

[@literallyjiaoqiu]

rm is equal to jiaoqiu in dot teams, so you can safely put you rm in break, dont worry

[@thatriolaguy]

@@literallyjiaoqiu Im really confused as to who should I pull. Sparkle for my JY or obviously JQ for my Kafka team

[@kazahana9679]

Name pronunciation was very good for a non-native speaker. 10/10

[@boo5860]

I'm so tired of the doomposting thank u guoba

[@MrYes-kw6kp]

Will pull. Been skipping lots of units for a while so I've had lots of pulls to spare and I like Jiaoqiu.

[@Byaksune]

He is a must pull for me, so many possibilities... I'm sorry Guoba but I want this triple dps dot team so much~ 0 cycles be dammed!

[@ZytenEspada]

@Byaksune triple dps dot is viable with acheron. Also known as DoTcheron. It's one of the most premium teams like IPC.

[@xn--b81a]

my pull plan crumble after i see the 2.5 rerun rumor. I NEED ROBIN! 😭

[@blumenmupfel]

I already saved up for him and his cone. I dont care that I don't have Acheron and wont pull for her. I will make this work

[@peterkuever4069]

Lol they literally designed him for acheron. Good luck for to not pulling for acheron

[@violetyplink]

@@peterkuever4069Dr Ratio exists, we dont need acheron.

[@violetyplink]

Me too im pulling him but i wont ever pull for acheron.

[@K9CORPSE]

i will be using him with ratio and aventurine 🙏

[@peterkuever4069]

@@violetyplink lol 😆 anyways

[@esmondgoh3112]

His supportive kit is actually kinda good. But then again, he's an upgrade of Gui.. I agree. (I was a Jiaoqiu doomposter) But by the time he's out, most players already has a well-built Acheron team. Getting him would be redundant. Yes, his kit gives stronger amp than Gui. But things to take note, Gui is cheaper, more flexible and easier to build. Jiaoqiu needs a massive amount of EHR and not very flexible for different teams. Not to mention, Feixiao banner is after him.

[@DuckDuckBaoBao]

Getting him only for Foxian reasons (My account is doing pretty well and can clear all content, for context)

[@moonawilks8240]

What are your teams?

[@redzy17]

Hey gouba, i love your guides so much, thank you for making them! I'm sorry if you did mention this in this video, but in your acheron guide you mentioned SPD boots being better if you had a debuffing Lightcone (like her signature), but in this video you tested with ATK% boots, so which boots would be better in an Acheron(E0/Sig)/Jiaoqiu(E0/Sig)/Pela(Reso)/Aventurine(E0/Sig) team?

[@wildcarx]

To me, i think jiaoqiu might he one of the most valuable characters to have overall due to his debuff can boost any damage type so he's is a extremely good plug in play overall

[@vikryarsana5081]

I was planning to pull Jiaoqiu hoping that he's a DoT unit like buffing DoT dmg and/or heal via DoT proc so Healer/sustain is not necessary in DoT team. But alas my hope is just a dream.

[@randvvmly]

him being nerfed like 5 times during his testing was crazy yet still honestly decent is so insane to me

[@Kagetora-]

Yeah a lot of people think he would be shit after the big nerfs in beta

[@Gurenn83]

@@Kagetora-he is shit. don’t let the numbers fool you. in a few patches, Hoyo will be pumping health again to future enemies and bosses. one easy way of powercreeping old 5 stars.

[@Taunt69]

JQ disables trend. The calculations were made with galla, but every team with acheron uses trend. The replacement may not even give additional ultimates.

[@izzme5204]

@@Taunt69 trend is not that good anyway with it's rng-ish way of inflicting debuffs on enemy turns and low base stats+low def percentage. Jiaoqiu guarantees a debuffs on enemy turns regardless so it doesn't really matter. Gallagher is a 4* so most people will have him(via pulling and events)

[@B_Kaizo]

​@@Gurenn83Follower of Enigmata spotted:

[@LienArts]

When I tested him with my Black Swan, Serval E5 and Gallagher E4 during the story he worked so well. I'm willing to try a little more pulls on him until the 50/50 to see if he's coming to my account.

[@jun2825]

Just a quick question, is Jiaoqiu still a huge upgrade over Pela/SW if I am not planning to get his lightcone? Personally I feel like getting a LC for support is just too expensive for F2P

[@auliadimas0503]

Same question tbh

[@guobacertified]

Thats what the resolution calc was for unless I forgot to put it, hes still great and not to mention the PF buff acheron gets which cant be calculated. And the QoL of running better sustain w/o trend But the LC is defo a nice bonus

[@lazyness_exe8082]

Yes. If we took account of stacks gain, its roughly 30% better than pela sw

[@darkkforce]

you can clear same amount of cycles with a proper sw pela team wind set compared to e0s1 jq pela. done multiple tests on private server. just save your resources and worst case scenario you lose 1-2 cycles on a rough moc. a good acheron can clear anything in 1-2 cycles anyway.

[@AlwaysThirstys]

@@kingsimba9513 Absolute gyat

[@VG_Yugi]

As an E2 Acheron user, I will be on the fence until the 2.6 banners are announced and we have some “dreams” to go off 😅

[@Kspice9000]

Agreed. He just doesn't offer much more then pela/sparkle/aventurine trends

[@MagicalThief_Rp]

So you are telling me that the "doctor" can not heal!!! NO WONDER THAT FEIXIAO IS DYING

[@williamsl655]

In 2.4, not even Bailu can heal Feixiao though? Feixiao seems to have incureable desease after all

[@MagicalThief_Rp]

@@williamsl655 I mean his kit

[@guobacertified]

jiaoqiu alter in 3.4 that can heal :)

[@MagicalThief_Rp]

@@guobacertified Don't leak me like that Goub

[@MagicalThief_Rp]

​@@guobacertifiedDon't leak me like that, Guob😂

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

Good thing I saved enough cash in game and in my bank account to comfortably be able to pull for E0S0 of both Jiaoqiu and Feixiao 😁

[@Seance117]

Did you test Acheron, Jiaoqiu, Black Swan?

[@Desticy]

I just want male Yae Miko for my Acheron since its my favourite unit to use, and he did make a MASSIVE difference in Pure Fiction which was the main reason I wanted him. Now I can Acheron all over the place

[@hxm1sh259]

I think everyone forgets that acherons scaling is already insane so she prefer someone who can help her get her ult faster than someone who buffs her dmg crazily

[@Kspice9000]

Nah, healing/toughness dmg/Def shred and maybe spd debuff.

[@tab1965]

I actually pulled e0s1 jiaoqiu for future use I tried him on dot and noticed he actually cleared better than my Ruan Mei! Though I do have a well invested swan and Kafka he did allow me to hit 40000 points on side 2 of current pure fiction where as Ruanmei was only letting me hit about 31k points

[@sammy5480]

Why does everyone keep forgetting about DoTcheron ? Jiaoqiu is a DoT unit with great synergy with Acheron : DoTcheron is the first team to try with Jiaoqiu, as it is the only one making full use of his kit !

[@ZytenEspada]

@@sammy5480 I never did.

[@kerrink958]

Ur skill points will cry 😅

[@ZytenEspada]

@@kerrink958 they actually won't if you know how to play

[@sammy5480]

@@kerrink958 Nah : that issue is already manageable with Acheron-Kafka-Black Swan. And it's even easier to manage with Jiaoqiu instead of Black Swan : _ using an Abundance with Multiplication no longer has an opportunity cost (you don't need Trend LC anymore) _ there's less pressure for Kafka to use her skill (you no longer care about stacking Arcana).

[@64shadows45]

​@@kerrink958I run Acheron BSwan Kafka Huohuo and have no problem with it

[@dabo160]

I didn't watch the full guide, because I'm not that interested in the character. But I checked the comparisons with other teams, but would have liked to see how JQ does compared to the Pela+SW+trend sustain teams. The biggest advantage of JQ imo is replacing Trend, so I would really like to know how much of an upgrade he is over a trend user like Gepard. I know this depends a lot on assumptions you would make of what kind of fight it is, but I feel like it would still be informative to show a few different scenarios (e.g. 1 fast boss like in AP, many small enemies like in PF, 2 elites and 1 boss+elite like in MoC) so people would get a feel for when JQ is better and by how much. Just saying I gave the JQ team 1 more ult does feel a bit too reductive, since I still have no idea how this applies to the various endgame modes.

[@prettyandrich]

i just wish he was like actually earnestly a good use outside of the acheron team 😭😭 i've been begging for a dude foxian but i just got a nihility woman slave i do Not use those girls LMAO. also wanna add, pela doesn't have a 3t ult without resolution, you just need to proc her e1, which triggers for enemies dying regardless of if she got the last hit or not. this has been widely known and acknowledged within the cn tc community, not sure why everyone else hasn't caught up. she has an easy 2t ult so long as a random mob dies. i can comfortably tell you i have Never struggled with my pela's 2t ult and i've been using her since release. if jiaoqiu's getting hit requirement is something that can Easily be accounted for, then so should this imo.

[@AlwaysThirstys]

He has four uses, replacing topaz in dr ratio team due to not enough debuffs ie only 80% follow up chance. Replacing ruanmei in DOT teams, being a feixiao buffer due to 50% vun shred and also tied with tingyun for supporting yunli. Finally you can use him anywhere pela is used and he will be an upgrade.

[@prettyandrich]

@@AlwaysThirstys jiaoqiu also doesn’t have enough debuffs without s1. ruan mei already got replaced by robin on dot teams and robin is a beast of a unit. we only need two teams at a time so that’s already a nonissue unless you skipped them which… ig? feixiao MUUUUUUUCH prefers RAT due to how much it batteries her, her specific rebalance literally just cemented that even more since it veered her away from more carry centric comps. pela isn’t realistically used anywhere as a bis save for some specific 0 cycle clears or acheron, so no. all that and for nothing LMFAO

[@acleanpairofsocks]

Thank you! I’ll be pulling for him, though not his LC, as I still want to save what I can for Sunday. (Surely they’ll let him out of the basement eventually)

[@bizarrelygreen5177]

Gonna skip him. Good luck to everyone pulling for him!

[@NeuviletteBR]

Just won my 50/50 to him at 70 wishes. I got him to lvl 60 and no upgraded talents and put him on acheron team just to see how he does. He is just absurd. I swear i was getting acheron ult almost every turn. The fact that with ult enemies take stacks when they have a turn, makes it able for acheron to generate up to FIVE stacks while in the enemy turns

[@MtchndraLrd]

Ah man my main motivation in pulling him was because my Kafka is lacking a team (I’m never pulling for Black Swan or Ruan Mei). I’m also never getting Acheron so there goes my hopes again…

[@jefez75]

why wouldn't you pull BS or RM for Kafka? they're the best units for her or you just want to be stuck with Sampo and/or Guin? or am I missing something here

[@MtchndraLrd]

@@jefez75 I’m picky with my pulls and mostly pull based on if I like the character (includes story, design, etc). I just don’t really like Black Swan and Ruan Mei enough to pull. I don’t even use Sampo or Gui so my Kafka is just sitting there being pretty lol. So ya this whole time I’ve just been in a DOT waiting room hoping hoyo remembers…

[@FlameIce87]

@@MtchndraLrd well that's on you for not using sampo or gui then. wasting a good kafka unit

[@MtchndraLrd]

@@FlameIce87 I don’t see pulling a character I like a waste. I may not have meta or typical teams for her but I’d rather spend all my effort and resources on a character I like rather than one I don’t.

[@moonawilks8240]

@@MtchndraLrdyou dont like lil Gui? 🥺 Also, theres speculation that 5 star Tingyun is fire nihility so theres hope!

[@sammy5480]

For Planar ornament, Forge of Kalpagni also deserves a mention : _ Jiaoqiu really wants the speed. _ 40% Break Effect is nice for any Fire unit with good AoE (since Fire Break is more frontloaded, it's good against mobs)

[@Kindi001]

but the problem with Kalpagni is how you wanna use Jiaoqu. if you use him as Universal debuff then when you fight agains enemies that didnt have fire weaknes the BE bonus stat is dead. at that situation better use Vonwach as always

[@sammy5480]

@@Kindi001 the main draw of Kalpagni is the SPEED, which is very important for a debuffer, particulary with Acheron (and Vonwacq can be useless in many chambers, if your Jiaoqiu already outspeeds the enemy). ___________ Break Effect is just a "ribbon" feature : nice when you get to use it, but not essential (still, 40% Break Effect is really not a negigeable amount).

[@CyberDude1231]

Missed opportunity to call yourself Jiaqi-ouba

[@karakkyo5902]

Jiaoqi-ba is better la, atleast in malay

[@Rainin.7]

​@@karakkyo5902😂

[@glazel]

You would recommend Jiaoqiu E0 for DoTs team (an E2 is high cost) over Guinaifen E6? I dont know how to improve my Kafka-Black Swan team. Or you recommend to wait until a more DoT focused unit appears?

[@suki7759]

This guy looks like an easy skip if you dont have acheron tbh

[@scrubblesi1233]

Or argenti

[@hyalina7098]

i have acheron and tbh i’ll probably skip him he’s just too limited

[@Boyahda]

It really seems like he was designed specifically for her. Especially after the endless nerfs he received.

[@Waifu_Impact_Cunny_Archive]

Hoyo will release another DPS that fits his kits . That for sure

[@VeraExora]

So it's an easy skip for like 4 people

[@bjornnilsson2941]

Thanks for the calculations there Guoba, at E0S1 he's a 5% increase over Acheron's current best team in most situations then. Definitely an easy skip for me. I guess simulating him versus a competent trend user would yield about that same outcome. Barring super cringe enemies that don't attack that is.

[@literallyjiaoqiu]

its not only the dmg increase, its the stack speed. he currently stacks faster than any other character for acheron, and a LOT faster

[@bjornnilsson2941]

@@literallyjiaoqiu His calcs showed the damage increase being 5%. Only if you are able to get another ult off do you see the 15-30% increase. If you use E1 Gepard on Trend like I do I doubt there's many if any situations where you'd get another ult off. Those would be the above mentioned super cringe enemies that don't attack.

[@Kspice9000]

​@@bjornnilsson2941even trend aventurine easily beats out any need for jiaoqiu.

[@lordradiance2530]

People really downplayed the best support for the best dps in the game calling this a “skip patch”. Such a silly playerbase

[@HollowTypeIX]

What's wrong with wanting to save your pulls though?

[@seyenas]

@@HollowTypeIX nothing but a lot of ppl spreading misinfo just cuz they dont wanna pull him

[@Zephyrion22]

@@HollowTypeIX Nothing, it's more the reasoning behind it. Like it really often happens that in gachas, when people want to save for later units/don't like a design/ don't think they'll get enough value for their account, they'll just say "I won't pull for this unit because they're mid/trash" or "easy skip", which then will get repeated by everyone in an echo chamber kind of way. then some people who ARE interested in said unit then would think "oh, I hear this unit kind of sucks. I like them but I heard they're trash everywhere, so maybe I should skip" If you don't want/need a unit, simply say you don't want/need it. It's that simple.

[@Shay_D_Mann]

"Best support for the Best DPS" as if Acheron needed more handholding the way she is right now. Stupid.

[@coolylame]

Its a skip cos Acheron clears content well already and therefore his pull value is low. Its not like a ruan mei or robin situation where they are essential for their comp. if he didn't get nerfed his pull value would be a lot higher.

[@Carlos-vs7rw]

He's going home!!! Guaranteed at 31 pity with 60 pulls saved 😍